I'm digging into the family of my maternal grandmother (Florence) Maria Smith (1878-1932), originally from Worcestershire and Gloucestershire but living in Birmingham by the late 1800s. Her parents were Philip Smith, bootmaker, and Sarah Ainge and I seem to have got them fairly well nailed down thanks to census records. She appears to have been the third of a family of 11 children and I'm wondering what happened to my 10 great-uncles and great aunts. It seems likely that some may have been around into the 1970s, but I never knew any of them. I gather one of the younger ones came back a broken man from the First World War, his health ruined by a gas attack, but that's about all I have. William Liverpool

Hi William What are their names and birth dates, and do you have them all in the 1911 census ? Birmingham Electoral rolls up to 1960 are available online. Mike Fisher in Droitwich my family tree http://mjfisher.tribalpages.com On 12/10/2012 09:33, William Leece wrote: > I'm digging into the family of my maternal grandmother (Florence) Maria > Smith (1878-1932), originally from Worcestershire and Gloucestershire but > living in Birmingham by the late 1800s. > Her parents were Philip Smith, bootmaker, and Sarah Ainge and I seem to > have got them fairly well nailed down thanks to census records. She appears > to have been the third of a family of 11 children and I'm wondering what > happened to my 10 great-uncles and great aunts. It seems likely that some > may have been around into the 1970s, but I never knew any of them. I gather > one of the younger ones came back a broken man from the First World War, > his health ruined by a gas attack, but that's about all I have. > > William > Liverpool > ------------------------------- > List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi William Tracing your SMITH line back in the census I find Sarah a widow in 1911 She states she has had 10 children all living in 1911 From the 1881 to 1911 census I can see Ellen b1876 Florence b1878 Frederick Thomas b1880 Edith b1881 Charles b1885 Samuel b1888 * William b1890 * Albert b1892 * Frank b1895 * Herbert b1888 * * = still single in 1911 Do you have another child? You may have a task ahead of you in tracing the service of them in WW1 but it can be done All the boys could have served, I would suggest either subscribing to Ancestry or try your local library who may have it (most do) and then check through the various service records for each name in turn It can be a long task as not every detail is indexed, you might try the names and birth year +/- 1 year and keyword Birmingham or Warwickshire Also try any known addresses as sometimes they are indexed, try only part of the address if necessary as Street can be down as St etc I should also warn you that only approximately one third of service records survived WW2 for the average soldier so they may not survive If the man came home an invalid he may be in the pension papers or the silver war badge data Further avenues to try are the Probate Calendars (also on Ancestry) for any of your mens names in Warwickshire (they may have stayed in the County) and any deaths for men of your name born in the approximate year you have for them, with luck you may find one that may lead to others Not an easy task with SMITH as I know all to well as I descend from various SMITH lines Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 12/10/2012 09:33, William Leece wrote: > I'm digging into the family of my maternal grandmother (Florence) Maria > Smith (1878-1932), originally from Worcestershire and Gloucestershire but > living in Birmingham by the late 1800s. > Her parents were Philip Smith, bootmaker, and Sarah Ainge and I seem to > have got them fairly well nailed down thanks to census records. She appears > to have been the third of a family of 11 children and I'm wondering what > happened to my 10 great-uncles and great aunts. It seems likely that some > may have been around into the 1970s, but I never knew any of them. I gather > one of the younger ones came back a broken man from the First World War, > his health ruined by a gas attack, but that's about all I have. > > William > Liverpool

Hi again William Given the name it does make searching difficult but the following are a few thoughts on a couple of your SMITHs A possible death and probate for Frank George SMITH England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006 about Frank G Smith Name: Frank G Smith Birth Date: abt 1894 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1965 Age at Death: 71 Registration district: Sutton Coldfield Inferred County: Warwickshire Volume: 9c Page: 934 Probate Calendars 1965 SMITH Frank George of 6 Blackberry Lane Four Oaks Sutton Coldfield Warwickshire died 20 August 1965 Probate Birmingham 7 September to Margaret Ada Smith widow £729 Could this be a marriage? possibly a second or more Marriages Mar 1953 HEATHCOTE Margaret A SMITH Sutton Coldf'd 9c 2395 SMITH Frank G HEATHCOTE Sutton Coldf'd 9c 2395 ? England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006 about Margaret Ada Smith Name: Margaret Ada Smith Birth Date: 7 Sep 1910 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1971 Age at Death: 61 Registration district: Sutton Coldfield Inferred County: Warwickshire Volume: 9c Page: 2311 Possible death for Frederick Thomas England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006 about Frederick T Smith Name: Frederick T Smith Birth Date: abt 1879 Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1935 Age at Death: 56 Registration district: Birmingham Inferred County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 157 To many of the other names to hazard a guess at I would restate these are just some findings that *may* be your family but need further research to get further Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 12/10/2012 09:33, William Leece wrote: > I'm digging into the family of my maternal grandmother (Florence) Maria > Smith (1878-1932), originally from Worcestershire and Gloucestershire but > living in Birmingham by the late 1800s. > Her parents were Philip Smith, bootmaker, and Sarah Ainge and I seem to > have got them fairly well nailed down thanks to census records. She appears > to have been the third of a family of 11 children and I'm wondering what > happened to my 10 great-uncles and great aunts. It seems likely that some > may have been around into the 1970s, but I never knew any of them. I gather > one of the younger ones came back a broken man from the First World War, > his health ruined by a gas attack, but that's about all I have. > > William > Liverpool

Hi again A Frank George Smith marries a Vera Maud Marshall in Birmingham in 1919 and in from 1927 to 1939 they live at 93 Paget Rd,Birmingham Mike Fisher in Droitwich my family tree http://mjfisher.tribalpages.com

Hi from 1921 to 1925 Sarah is in 5 court (105) Guildford Street with Albert Edward Smith in 1927 Albert Edward is with Elizabeth Smith (no Sarah) Mike Fisher in Droitwich my family tree http://mjfisher.tribalpages.com