Hi, I've been following this thread with great interest; without a lot of assistance from the folks on this and the WOR list I'd never have waded through the correct past paths of my PALMER family of those 2 counties (also peaked my curiosity i.e. are our Palmer groups related?) Re: help from "way back" - pre-internet etc and the possiblity of "the wrong Ellen". I received an lengthy, well researched family tree from a researcher in the UK back in 1986 - this when I was trying to track my Palmer-Holyoake families. What a goldmine of help that was: the researcher had spent many, many years on the same group and shared this with me. From her files I then tracked one line back - way back! Spent several years perfecting that, backed up with lots of sources etc. It wasn't until I asked for some assistance from this and the WAR list re: Palmer-Holyoake that I learned I'd spent over 20 years tracking back the WRONG FRANCIS. The two even-tempered, long-suffering researchers on these lists patiently proved over and over again to me where my original received research of 1986 had gone wrong. I put it away for over a year before creeping back to correct it all - same "tree" just 20 years' worth of climbing back on the wrong branch. So it isn't a bad idea to go back and ck. further to make sure the correct "Ellen" is there - I thought I had the correct "Francis" - but didn't. Ed, I don't have a Robert Palmer in my Palmer group but all of the other first names in your group are the same first names in my Palmers down thro the generations... my first William Palmer was born abt 1761 in Bromsgrove, WOR & died 1829 in Burcott, WOR while his wife, Margaret Read, was born Chaddesley Corbet, WOR and died 1851 Alcester, WAR.: 9 children, eldest being William 1799 - 1883 & his wife Sarah Trehearn 1813 - 1893 - their son, William b. 1855 Feckenham, Redditch, WAR, wife Eliza Palmer (first cousins). Coming down, these Palmers generally centred around Bromsgrove, WOR. Any connections possible? Good luck, Kate At 11:12 AM 8/29/2012, you wrote: >Hi again > >As things were not quite so easy as they are now I would suggest a >little checking to confirm you have the right people > >If you can scan the documents you have and email a copy off list I am >more than happy to take a look at them for you > >I suspect you may have got hold of the wrong birth cert for Ellen >perhaps, is there any other evidence she was born anywhere other than >Warwickshire? > >I presume you have some evidence from the US side that Ellen was a SWIFT >and they married in 1870 ? > >Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > >On 29/08/2012 15:57, Ed Palmer wrote: > > > > he birth information I have for Ellen is from a birth certificate of sorts > > (it is actually a copy of a document registration I obtained from > some where > > in the UK about 25 years ago. I can't remember what agency supplied it to > > me. It is also the same place I obtained a copy of William and Ellen's > > marriage certificate. Please forgive me for not remembering where I > > received this info. > > > > An earlier response to my inquiry today informed me that Robert Palmer and > > Mary are in the 1861 UK census and my William is listed (correct age > > anyway). > > They are in Stoneleigh, Warwickshire. > > > > By 1871 William and Ellen may have immmigrated. I will try and scan the > > documents I have and include them as text in my next post. >------------------------------- >List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message Kate Confidentiality Statement - The contents of this e-mail, including its attachment, are intended for the exclusive use of the recipient and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from reading, using, disclosing, copying, or distributing this e-mail or any of its contents. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail immediately and permanently delete this e-mail and its attachments, along with any copies thereof. Thank you.

Thanks for the advice. I am beginning to think Norvard may be exactly right and I have chosen the wrong person to investigate. Hopefully, He will be able to tell from the documents I emailed him a few minutes ago. Thanks again. All I have right now is William's immediate family. So I cannot answer if we may have a connection somewhere farther back.. Somewhere along the line I received information that William may have been brought to the country to build cotton gins. Can't find any documentation of that. However, most of the Palmer's in my family are mechanically inclined (don't know if that's an inherited trait or not) -----Original Message----- From: warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Chy Maen Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 12:56 PM To: warwick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WAR] William PALMER - Ellen SWIFT Hi, I've been following this thread with great interest; without a lot of assistance from the folks on this and the WOR list I'd never have waded through the correct past paths of my PALMER family of those 2 counties (also peaked my curiosity i.e. are our Palmer groups related?) Re: help from "way back" - pre-internet etc and the possiblity of "the wrong Ellen". I received an lengthy, well researched family tree from a researcher in the UK back in 1986 - this when I was trying to track my Palmer-Holyoake families. What a goldmine of help that was: the researcher had spent many, many years on the same group and shared this with me. From her files I then tracked one line back - way back! Spent several years perfecting that, backed up with lots of sources etc. It wasn't until I asked for some assistance from this and the WAR list re: Palmer-Holyoake that I learned I'd spent over 20 years tracking back the WRONG FRANCIS. The two even-tempered, long-suffering researchers on these lists patiently proved over and over again to me where my original received research of 1986 had gone wrong. I put it away for over a year before creeping back to correct it all - same "tree" just 20 years' worth of climbing back on the wrong branch. So it isn't a bad idea to go back and ck. further to make sure the correct "Ellen" is there - I thought I had the correct "Francis" - but didn't. Ed, I don't have a Robert Palmer in my Palmer group but all of the other first names in your group are the same first names in my Palmers down thro the generations... my first William Palmer was born abt 1761 in Bromsgrove, WOR & died 1829 in Burcott, WOR while his wife, Margaret Read, was born Chaddesley Corbet, WOR and died 1851 Alcester, WAR.: 9 children, eldest being William 1799 - 1883 & his wife Sarah Trehearn 1813 - 1893 - their son, William b. 1855 Feckenham, Redditch, WAR, wife Eliza Palmer (first cousins). Coming down, these Palmers generally centred around Bromsgrove, WOR. Any connections possible? Good luck, Kate At 11:12 AM 8/29/2012, you wrote: >Hi again > >As things were not quite so easy as they are now I would suggest a >little checking to confirm you have the right people > >If you can scan the documents you have and email a copy off list I am >more than happy to take a look at them for you > >I suspect you may have got hold of the wrong birth cert for Ellen >perhaps, is there any other evidence she was born anywhere other than >Warwickshire? > >I presume you have some evidence from the US side that Ellen was a >SWIFT and they married in 1870 ? > >Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > >On 29/08/2012 15:57, Ed Palmer wrote: > > > > he birth information I have for Ellen is from a birth certificate of > > sorts (it is actually a copy of a document registration I obtained > > from > some where > > in the UK about 25 years ago. I can't remember what agency supplied > > it to me. It is also the same place I obtained a copy of William > > and Ellen's marriage certificate. Please forgive me for not > > remembering where I received this info. > > > > An earlier response to my inquiry today informed me that Robert > > Palmer and Mary are in the 1861 UK census and my William is listed > > (correct age anyway). > > They are in Stoneleigh, Warwickshire. > > > > By 1871 William and Ellen may have immmigrated. I will try and scan > > the documents I have and include them as text in my next post. >------------------------------- >List archives are at >http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message Kate Confidentiality Statement - The contents of this e-mail, including its attachment, are intended for the exclusive use of the recipient and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from reading, using, disclosing, copying, or distributing this e-mail or any of its contents. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail immediately and permanently delete this e-mail and its attachments, along with any copies thereof. Thank you. ------------------------------- List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message