Hi Ed Is your Ellen SWIFT the one born Berkswell 1852? I take it the marriage cert states that Thomas was her father? what was his occupation then? In both 1861 & 1871 Thomas SWIFT is an Ag Lab rather than an employer I don't see a William PALMER with wife Ellen in the 1871 census though In 1851 & 1861 1851 England Census about William Palmer Name: William Palmer Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Son Father's Name: Robert Palmer Mother's Name: Mary A Palmer Gender: M (Male) Where born: Starton, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Stoneleigh Ecclesiastical parish: Worcester County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Registration district: Warwick Sub-registration district: Kenilworth ED, institution, or vessel: 2b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 10 Piece: 2073 Folio: 44 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age Robert Palmer 30 Mary A Palmer 19 William Palmer 1 HO107; Piece: 2073; Folio: 44; Page: 4; GSU roll: 87339-87341. ==================== 1861 England Census about William Palmer Name: William Palmer Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Son Father's Name: Robert Palmer Mother's Name: Mary Palmer Gender: Male Where born: Stoneleigh, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Stoneleigh County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Registration district: Warwick Sub-registration district: Kenilworth ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 130 Piece: 2224 Folio: 165 Page Number: 23 Household Members: Name Age Robert Palmer 42 Mary Palmer 32 William Palmer 11 Elizabeth Palmer 9 Emma Palmer 6 Sarah A Palmer 6 John Pamer 7 RG 9; Piece: 2224; Folio: 165; Page: 23; GSU roll: 542938. Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 27/08/2012 20:37, Ed Palmer wrote: > I am trying to trace my Great-G Grandfathers family in England. > > My Great Gr Grandfather was named William Palmer and he was born in 1850. > His parents were Robert Palmer and Mary Ann Mann. He married Ellen Swift in > Birmingam in 1870 and according to what I can surmise they immigrated to the > U.S. in 1872. I'd like to know about William's siblings and other family > members who were left behind in the UK. I can find no record of their > arrival on any ship or any indication they were naturalized even though in > the U S census that is indicated. > > I have an old photo of a grass topped hut and on the back of the photo it is > labeled "Tile Hill" and the words "presnted to him by his employer Thomas > Swift. Leads me to believe that William Palmer may have married the bosses > daughter. They were married in the Parish Church of St Thomas in > Birmingham. > > Any help that anyone can give will be really appreciated. Thanks.

My Ellen Swift was born 5 May 1849 in Lancashire. Her father, Thomas, was born in 1817 in Balsall. He died in 1880. I REALLY appreciate the responses I have received here. They have already filled in a lot of blanks on my family tree! Ed -----Original Message----- From: warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 8:34 AM To: warwick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WAR] William PALMER - Ellen SWIFT Hi Ed Is your Ellen SWIFT the one born Berkswell 1852? I take it the marriage cert states that Thomas was her father? what was his occupation then? In both 1861 & 1871 Thomas SWIFT is an Ag Lab rather than an employer I don't see a William PALMER with wife Ellen in the 1871 census though In 1851 & 1861 1851 England Census about William Palmer Name: William Palmer Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Son Father's Name: Robert Palmer Mother's Name: Mary A Palmer Gender: M (Male) Where born: Starton, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Stoneleigh Ecclesiastical parish: Worcester County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Registration district: Warwick Sub-registration district: Kenilworth ED, institution, or vessel: 2b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 10 Piece: 2073 Folio: 44 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age Robert Palmer 30 Mary A Palmer 19 William Palmer 1 HO107; Piece: 2073; Folio: 44; Page: 4; GSU roll: 87339-87341. ==================== 1861 England Census about William Palmer Name: William Palmer Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Son Father's Name: Robert Palmer Mother's Name: Mary Palmer Gender: Male Where born: Stoneleigh, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Stoneleigh County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Registration district: Warwick Sub-registration district: Kenilworth ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 130 Piece: 2224 Folio: 165 Page Number: 23 Household Members: Name Age Robert Palmer 42 Mary Palmer 32 William Palmer 11 Elizabeth Palmer 9 Emma Palmer 6 Sarah A Palmer 6 John Pamer 7 RG 9; Piece: 2224; Folio: 165; Page: 23; GSU roll: 542938. Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 27/08/2012 20:37, Ed Palmer wrote: > I am trying to trace my Great-G Grandfathers family in England. > > My Great Gr Grandfather was named William Palmer and he was born in 1850. > His parents were Robert Palmer and Mary Ann Mann. He married Ellen > Swift in Birmingam in 1870 and according to what I can surmise they > immigrated to the U.S. in 1872. I'd like to know about William's > siblings and other family members who were left behind in the UK. I > can find no record of their arrival on any ship or any indication they > were naturalized even though in the U S census that is indicated. > > I have an old photo of a grass topped hut and on the back of the photo > it is labeled "Tile Hill" and the words "presnted to him by his > employer Thomas Swift. Leads me to believe that William Palmer may > have married the bosses daughter. They were married in the Parish > Church of St Thomas in Birmingham. > > Any help that anyone can give will be really appreciated. Thanks. ------------------------------- List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message