Eileen et al, I didn't have to provide too much detail the pitch I used is below. "As a [non-commercial] genealogist I use many sources of data to try and uncover ancestors, their relationships and relative physical locations. Understanding the 19th century parish boundaries and in particular how they affect the census returns of the period is crucial. It is also helpful to have access to a source that readily illustrates the proximity of one parish to another and their relationship to the county boundaries. I understand that the "Historic Parishes of England and Wales" complied and published by Roger Kain and Richard Oliver help enormously with this understanding which is why I would appreciate access to the data. I will only use this data to expand and add to my personal knowledge and understanding." As I said this did the trick. Regards Peter In reply to Peter Martin, thanks for the info about your experience. I will save your suggestion and work on a good detailed request. I have a Thomas Bartlett, file cutter, who came from Birmingham. There seem to be at least three possible fathers for him, and one name is a favorite because of finding him as an old man with Thomas' family in a Nottingham census. I felt that it could be useful to have a closer look at where the candidates might have lived while in Birmingham christening their children. Most of my English lines have hit brick walls at the point where several people in the area have the same name. I not only wanted to look at Birmingham, but at least half a dozen cities, including London before the fire in 1666. I have found a few maps with parish outlines, but none that are specific as to streets. I like to browse maps, but if that is not allowed I will have to get very specific, which will take a little time. Eileen