Hi all,Im sorry but I cant find this information on Ancestry - I have trolled through everything I can think of to get to this site Masters & Mates. Is someone able to help me out please as to where on Ancestry I can find it.Sorry to be a nuisance. Anne > Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 22:04:56 +0100 > From: ovington1@sky.com > To: warwick@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WAR] New database on Ancestry Masters and Mates certificates 1850 - 1927 > > Hi all > > I would not mention this here but a simple keyword search for Warwick* > finds over 500 many of which have Warwickshire as a birthplace > > Leamington, Birmingham, Coventry Rugby etc > > About Great Britain, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927 > > This database contains master and mate certificates issued to merchant > seamen by the British Board of Trade. > > What You May Find in the Records > > Great Britain has long been known for its maritime prowess in both > military and commercial spheres. The certificates and other documents > included in this database were issued to merchant seamen who qualified > as masters or mates aboard merchant ships. Records include certificates > of competency, certificates of service, examination applications, and > other documents. Forms vary, but they may include the following details: > > name > certificate number > birth date > birthplace > issue port > issue date > address > examination date > history of service (dates, vessels, occupations, years in service) > > Some of the information is included on the back of the certificates, and > some documents in a seaman’s folder have not been indexed, so when you > find a record, use the arrows to browse surrounding documents to make > sure you see all the records available. You may want to browse through > an entire roll since the original folders were sometimes filed in random > order. > > -- > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > ------------------------------- > List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good morning Mary Jane, > There are far too many to Thomas Phil(l)ips about in Warwickshire at this > time for anyone to respond to your question unless you provide further > information. I have to concur with the answer above, but in the meantime since the name is one I am researching here are mine: I am descended from Charles PHILLIPS (c.1778-1851) who was a butcher in Coventry. I know that he served an apprenticeship and after a number of attempts gained the freedom of the city in 1800. The apprenticeship data tells me that his father's name was Thomas who was also a butcher. The closest baptism I have found for Charles is 17th May 1781 at Coventry St Michael, which would suggest Charles was the son of Thomas and Mary (speculatively Mary JORDAN who were married at Coventry Holy Trinity on 12th June 1759). There were two other possible sons who appear in the apprenticeship register, John b.c.1771 apprentced as a butcher 1785, and William b.c.1770 apprenticed as a barber and peruke maker in 1784. There is also another William christened in 1762. I have also found a baptism 12 September 1737 for a Thomas Phillips at Cov Holy Trinity which suggests there could be another Thomas going back, possibly the husband of Ann BRYON (m Cov Holy Trinity 23rd June 1734) Regards Peter

Mary Jane, There are far too many to Thomas Phil(l)ips about in Warwickshire at this time for anyone to respond to your question unless you provide further information. Reagrds Peter Does someone have information on a THOMAS PHILLIPS in Warwickshire in the very late 1600's? Many thanks, Mary Jane PHILLIPS

Does someone have information on a THOMAS PHILLIPS in Warwickshire in the very late 1600's? Many thanks, Mary Jane PHILLIPS

I'm new to WarwickRoots and I'm hoping someone can help me and others who have a common link through the surname Hems in London. We run an on-line database for our Hems tree based in London (www.juxon.net) but we have a feeling that there may be a link to Birmingham with William Hems (from London) marrying Sarah Palmer on 28 Mar 1758 in Aston juxta Birmingham and subsequently having children baptised at St John, Deritend & Bordesley. We have William and Sarah (no surname) in London and some of the children's names/births/christenings tie in well together with the Birmingham family. Can anyone shed some light on the possible connection of these two families? And for anyone with Hems as a surname in their ancestry, we (the Hemsearchers as we call ourselves at www.juxon.net) would like you to join us and contribute to the database we've constructed with over 5000 people so far. At present the London and Midlands/NW families seem to have no connection - we'd like to, hopefully, find the missing link. John

Hello Pickard, I've collected a lot of Warwickshire wills and would be willing to contribute such summaries, but I don't dare promise when! MAR in France. > De : "Pickard - Hunimex" > A : warwick@rootsweb.com > Copie à : > Objet : [WAR] New posting to PPP > > Hi All, > > > > Thanks to some submissions by Ros Dunning, I have posted some Warks will > transcriptions on PPP > > > > These were previously online on another site, which appears to have gone > down, so I have agreed to host them (of course - no data refused J) > > > > Link from www.hunimex.com/warwick on the [RECENT] tab or directly to the > index on > > http://www.hunimex.com/warwick/wills/will_indx.html > > > > Happy Hunting > > > > Pickard > > ------------------------------- > List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi All, Thanks to some submissions by Ros Dunning, I have posted some Warks will transcriptions on PPP These were previously online on another site, which appears to have gone down, so I have agreed to host them (of course - no data refused J) Link from www.hunimex.com/warwick on the [RECENT] tab or directly to the index on http://www.hunimex.com/warwick/wills/will_indx.html Happy Hunting Pickard

Hello, I am new to the list and am seeking information on the early history of the first? Coventry gasworks. My 2 x great grandfather's first job in England after leaving Scotland was as a gas engineer in that city. When his first two children were born between 1850 and 1852 the family was residing on Gas Street. Soon afterwards he moved to London and was involved with Alexander Angus Croll, another Scot with interests in gas generation, and later the leassor of the Coventry Gasworks. My ancestor's name was David Methven 1817 - 1867. Thanks Nick

Hi Trevor, At the time you're asking about - and things haven't changed much since - obits were rare in local papers unless the deceased was a well-known personality [a politician or an eccentric] or had died 'mysterioulsy' [or amusingly] and there'd been a coroner's inquest. Even in the latter cases there's usually little detail of the actual cause of the death. Otherwise there's only the announcement of the death [paid for by the family] - sometimes including a vague phrase such as "peacefully, after a long illness". Your only real option here is - I regret to say - to buy the death certificate. Gus -----Original Message----- From: warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Trevor Griffiths Sent: 18 September 2012 14:06 To: WARWICK@rootsweb.com Subject: [WAR] Albert Joseph Vitali. Hi to all, I have Kathleen Mary Vitali ( nee Shone ) who changed her name in 1947 from Shone to Vitali, and I then found her on the will of Albert Joseph Vitali who died in 1956 aged 49, where she was listed as a single woman. They were both living in Leamington Spa and didn't seem to move very far, and I wondered if anyone has come across either of these 2 people? Is there any way I can find out how Albert died, ie newspaper obits, as he was quite young. Any help anyone can give me would be greatly appreciated. Thanks from Trevor Grifffiths in Australind, West Australia. ------------------------------- List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Trevor, The easiest way to find out how Albert died is to send for a copy of his death certificate. Regards Peter Hi to all, I have Kathleen Mary Vitali ( nee Shone ) who changed her name in 1947 from Shone to Vitali, and I then found her on the will of Albert Joseph Vitali who died in 1956 aged 49, where she was listed as a single woman. Is there any way I can find out how Albert died, ie newspaper obits, as he was quite young. Any help anyone can give me would be greatly appreciated. Thanks from Trevor Grifffiths in Australind, West Australia.

Hi to all, I have Kathleen Mary Vitali ( nee Shone ) who changed her name in 1947 from Shone to Vitali, and I then found her on the will of Albert Joseph Vitali who died in 1956 aged 49, where she was listed as a single woman. They were both living in Leamington Spa and didn't seem to move very far, and I wondered if anyone has come across either of these 2 people? Is there any way I can find out how Albert died, ie newspaper obits, as he was quite young. Any help anyone can give me would be greatly appreciated. Thanks from Trevor Grifffiths in Australind, West Australia.

Margery Phyllis Lait married James H Smith in Birmingham, England 1941. Anyone out there related? Thank You Carol

Joseph C F Ashley married Pauline Myrtle Lait 1927 in Birmingham, England Anyone related? Thank You Carol

James H Smith married Margery Phyllis Lait 1941 in Birmingham, England. Anyone out there related? Thank You Carol

Hi There, Here is a URL for the Croft Village web site if it is any use to you. http://www.leicestershirevillages.com/croft/ You might get further information by leaving a message there? Dorothy Dorothy Gibbs (in Leicestershire UK) -----Original Message----- From: Penny Courtney Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 8:22 PM To: I PHILLPOTT ; warwick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WAR] Earl Shilton Silver Prize Band Look at these web pages http://www.bcope.co.uk/photoarch/Cook%20A%20H/photos/photo_10.html http://www.freewebs.com/phillpottdebian/claud1891.htm and it looks as though the band is now called Croft. See http://www.clubbz.com/club/18206/leicester-desford-earl-shilton-sapcote-sutton-in-the-elms-thurlaston/croft-silver-band Good luck Penny, Hants UK ------------------------------- List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Look at these web pages http://www.bcope.co.uk/photoarch/Cook%20A%20H/photos/photo_10.html http://www.freewebs.com/phillpottdebian/claud1891.htm and it looks as though the band is now called Croft. See http://www.clubbz.com/club/18206/leicester-desford-earl-shilton-sapcote-sutton-in-the-elms-thurlaston/croft-silver-band Good luck Penny, Hants UK

Hi guys, I realise that this pertains to a location outside of Warwickshire but I thought I'd give it a try. Does anyone have any information or connection regarding Earl Shilton Silver Prize Band? (Earl Shilton in Leicestershire near Hinckley). My grandfather Claud PHILPOTT was a member of the band, sometime just after WW1 I suspect. The family legend is that he led the band to a Silver Medal position in a competition "down in London". Certainly his grandson has a presentation baton in his possession bearing the inscription "Presented to Mr C Phillpot by the Officers and Members of the E.S.S.P.B." The hallmark gives a date of 1911 but that may of course not be the date when it was presented. Any snippets of info, images (would be fantastic!) or ideas on other possible sources of information would be extremely welcome. Very best regards. Ian Phillpott

Yes, thank you for that, Nivard. Jeanette On 14/09/2012, at 7:06 AM, Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> wrote: > > Whilst going through it I noticed a BRENTNALL > > Jeanette are you there? > > Lost a George BRENTNALL born Sutton Coldfield 1841 > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > ------------------------------- > List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Interesting database with beautiful original documents. I found a couple of leads. I only wish the same thing was available fro the preceding time period. Maybe it’s coming! Amanda From: Nivard Ovington Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 9:04 AM To: warwick@rootsweb.com Subject: [WAR] New database on Ancestry Masters and Mates certificates 1850- 1927 Hi all I would not mention this here but a simple keyword search for Warwick* finds over 500 many of which have Warwickshire as a birthplace Leamington, Birmingham, Coventry Rugby etc About Great Britain, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927 This database contains master and mate certificates issued to merchant seamen by the British Board of Trade. What You May Find in the Records Great Britain has long been known for its maritime prowess in both military and commercial spheres. The certificates and other documents included in this database were issued to merchant seamen who qualified as masters or mates aboard merchant ships. Records include certificates of competency, certificates of service, examination applications, and other documents. Forms vary, but they may include the following details: name certificate number birth date birthplace issue port issue date address examination date history of service (dates, vessels, occupations, years in service) Some of the information is included on the back of the certificates, and some documents in a seaman’s folder have not been indexed, so when you find a record, use the arrows to browse surrounding documents to make sure you see all the records available. You may want to browse through an entire roll since the original folders were sometimes filed in random order. -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) ------------------------------- List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This database can augment the data found on Findmypast's Merchant Navy Seamen 1835-1941 Mike Fisher in Droitwich my family tree http://mjfisher.tribalpages.com On 13/09/2012 22:04, Nivard Ovington wrote: > Hi all > > > About Great Britain, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927 > > This database contains master and mate certificates issued to merchant > seamen by the British Board of Trade. > >