Much depends on the era I expect Carol will tell us in due course where she found the information Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 25/10/2012 12:28, althea.john wrote: > Could they have meant home guard >

Could they have meant home guard -----Original Message----- From: warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: 25 October 2012 12:25 To: warwick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WAR] Occupation question please Hi Carol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beadle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_crier I don't recognise the term Sergeant at Home, Sergeant at Arms yes, could there be some confusion there? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serjeant-at-Arms Can you give the context of your findings ? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 25/10/2012 12:16, Carol Kennedy wrote: > I would like to know what a Beadle is > Occupation - Beadle and Town Crier > > also > > What is a Segt. at home? > > Many thanks > Carol ------------------------------- List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Carol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beadle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_crier I don't recognise the term Sergeant at Home, Sergeant at Arms yes, could there be some confusion there? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serjeant-at-Arms Can you give the context of your findings ? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 25/10/2012 12:16, Carol Kennedy wrote: > I would like to know what a Beadle is > Occupation - Beadle and Town Crier > > also > > What is a Segt. at home? > > Many thanks > Carol

Hi Anne It was yet another idea by the then Government to get money in by yet another tax See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duty_on_Hair_Powder_Act_1795 Rather like the window tax, the hearth tax, registration tax etc etc Things don't change do they <g> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 25/10/2012 10:53, A P L wrote: > > I know that I should know this one but my one little grey cell is > sulking today. What were "Hair Powder Certificates"? Anne in misty > foggy murky Sheffield, Yorkshire.

Anne, Another instance of not very good transcription on Ancestry's part. The actual baptism of Thomas at Solihull reads: 19 June 1792 Thomas Barnardiston son of Revd Richard William & Hester YATES The same applies to his sister Hester's baptismal record. Janet Subject: [Bulk] Re: [WAR] Thomas Hester Anne There are two Thomas Hesters who could be you relative. Firstly a Thomas Barnardrston HESTER, Baptised 19 June 1792 at Solihull, father Richard William Hester. Also a sister Hester Bardiston HESTER Baptised in 1791.

Anne There are two Thomas Hesters who could be you relative. Firstly a Thomas Barnardrston HESTER, Baptised 19 June 1792 at Solihull, father Richard William Hester. Also a sister Hester Bardiston HESTER Baptised in 1791. Secondly Captain Thomas Edward HESTER Born 28 Jan 1789 in Shoreditch, Saint Leonards, London. He was in the British Army and he emigrated to West Australia in 1825. He moved around a lot and appears he may have been resident in Warwickshire at some time. There is also a Thomas Hester who was Transported to Tasmania in 1844, the information does not give his birth date. hth Helen Downunder I am researchingThomas HESTER born btween 1786 and 1791 . The Hester family were reputed to have come from Warwickshire. I am looking for his birth or baptism Thnaks Anne Harse (nee Hester) ------------------------------- List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 239 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen

I know that I should know this one but my one little grey cell is sulking today. What were "Hair Powder Certificates"? Anne in misty foggy murky Sheffield, Yorkshire. > Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 23:18:05 +0100 > From: ovington1@sky.com > To: warwick@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WAR] Update on Ancestry to Warwickshire, England, Occupational and Quarter Session Records, 1662-1866 > > There has been an update to the following record category on Ancestry, I > am unsure exactly what was added, I understand the Hair Powder > Certificates was one of them > > Warwickshire, England, Occupational and Quarter Session Records, 1662-1866 > > Record Type > > Boat Owners > Flax Bounty > Freeholders > Freemasons > Gamekeepers´ Deputations > Gamekeepers´ Lists > Gamekeepers´ Register > Hair Powder Certificates > Hearth Tax Returns > Jurors Lists 1696 > Jurors Lists 1704 > Jurors Lists 1772-1778 > Jurors Lists 1779-1787 > Jurors Lists 1788-1794 > Jurors Lists 1795-1802 > Jurors Lists 1803-1809 > Jurors Lists 1810-1815 > Jurors Lists 1816-1824 > Jurors Lists 1825 > Jurors Lists 1831 > Jurors Lists 1836 > Jurors Lists 1842 > Jurors Lists 1847 > Jurors Lists 1849 > Printing Press Owners > > -- > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > ------------------------------- > List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would like to know what a Beadle is Occupation - Beadle and Town Crier also What is a Segt. at home? Many thanks Carol

Hi Does anybody know which list Kings Bromley is on?? My GGGrandfather Thomas EDWARDS was born there, married his wife Millicent at Matlock in 1811 and brought up his family in the Walsall/Aldridge area. They spread through the area and places like Pipe Ridware, and my GGrandfather (William) emigrated to Australia in 1875. If anyone has an interest in the EDWARDS family please contact me David EDWARDS

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There has been an update to the following record category on Ancestry, I am unsure exactly what was added, I understand the Hair Powder Certificates was one of them Warwickshire, England, Occupational and Quarter Session Records, 1662-1866 Record Type Boat Owners Flax Bounty Freeholders Freemasons Gamekeepers´ Deputations Gamekeepers´ Lists Gamekeepers´ Register Hair Powder Certificates Hearth Tax Returns Jurors Lists 1696 Jurors Lists 1704 Jurors Lists 1772-1778 Jurors Lists 1779-1787 Jurors Lists 1788-1794 Jurors Lists 1795-1802 Jurors Lists 1803-1809 Jurors Lists 1810-1815 Jurors Lists 1816-1824 Jurors Lists 1825 Jurors Lists 1831 Jurors Lists 1836 Jurors Lists 1842 Jurors Lists 1847 Jurors Lists 1849 Printing Press Owners -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Hi David You can often answer this sort of question by entering the place name in google followed by the word Genuki ie http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/STS/KingsBromley/index.html You may also find this link useful http://maps.familysearch.org/ Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 24/10/2012 17:26, Edwards, David B wrote: > Hi > Does anybody know which list Kings Bromley is on?? > My GGGrandfather Thomas EDWARDS was born there, married his wife Millicent > at Matlock in 1811 and brought up his family in the Walsall/Aldridge area. > They spread through the area and places like Pipe Ridware, and my > GGrandfather (William) emigrated to Australia in 1875. > If anyone has an interest in the EDWARDS family please contact me > David EDWARDS

Hi Ed There was a Robert Palmer baptised in Stoneleigh 12/1/1823 age 2 parents Joseph and Elizabeth, he was a labourer. Robert's sister Mary was baptised the same day aged 5. Banns were read 11,18 and 25/11/1849 at the district chapel of St John in Stoneleigh to Robert Palmer and Mary Ann Mann and a certificate given on 26/11/49 Mary Ann came from Moreton Morrell and was baptised 3/2/33 to William and Mary Mann, he was a carpenter. HTH a bit Cheers for now Gareth

I am researchingThomas HESTER born btween 1786 and 1791 . The Hester family were reputed to have come from Warwickshire. I am looking for his birth or baptism Thnaks Anne Harse (nee Hester)

Thank you! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 24, 2012, at 9:36 AM, "Gareth Everitt" <everitt@xs4all.nl> wrote: > Hi Ed > There was a Robert Palmer baptised in Stoneleigh 12/1/1823 age 2 parents > Joseph and Elizabeth, he was a labourer. Robert's sister Mary was baptised > the same day aged 5. > Banns were read 11,18 and 25/11/1849 at the district chapel of St John in > Stoneleigh to Robert Palmer and Mary Ann Mann and a certificate given on > 26/11/49 > Mary Ann came from Moreton Morrell and was baptised 3/2/33 to William and > Mary Mann, he was a carpenter. > HTH a bit > Cheers for now > Gareth > > ------------------------------- > List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is anyone researching the above surnames from the Coventry area. Hilary.

Hi Connie Not wishing to contradict but the library edition specifically prohibits use from home On occasion a library breaks the rules but they are usually brought to book Another avenue is the LDS FHS who have Ancestry and often also have Findmypast Some local family history societies also have Ancestry Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 23/10/2012 20:41, Connie wrote: > Ed Palmer wrote: >> Hello again, >> >> I appreciate how helpful you have been in assisting me with my family >> research. I have reached a point now where all the info I need seems to be >> in ancestry.com's English/European section which they want to charge me a >> fortune to access. > > Hallo > > Ancestry's subscription is expensive but it is less than the air fare > to come to the UK. There are ways around the cost. > > Does your local library have Ancestry? Many UK libraries have access > and it doesn't cost anything to access it. Sometimes it is possible > from home with a library card. Sometimes it has to be in the libary. > > Another way is to take out a month's subscription and search for > everything you need or want then unsubscribe just before the end of > the month. Leave it for a while, then take out another month's > subscription. I used to do it that way. > > Connie in London

Ed Palmer wrote: > Hello again, > > I appreciate how helpful you have been in assisting me with my family > research. I have reached a point now where all the info I need seems to be > in ancestry.com's English/European section which they want to charge me a > fortune to access. Hallo Ancestry's subscription is expensive but it is less than the air fare to come to the UK. There are ways around the cost. Does your local library have Ancestry? Many UK libraries have access and it doesn't cost anything to access it. Sometimes it is possible from home with a library card. Sometimes it has to be in the libary. Another way is to take out a month's subscription and search for everything you need or want then unsubscribe just before the end of the month. Leave it for a while, then take out another month's subscription. I used to do it that way. Connie in London

Hello again, I appreciate how helpful you have been in assisting me with my family research. I have reached a point now where all the info I need seems to be in ancestry.com's English/European section which they want to charge me a fortune to access. I was wondering if you could assist me with Robert Palmer (my Great, great, great grandfather and beyond if you have access to those records. I would be happy to allow you access to my on line family tree so that you can see what I have and maybe correct me if I have made mistakes that you may spot. So many of the English and geneological terms are foreign to me ( can you believe) that I appreciate any help I can get. I have attached many of the census sheets you sent to me to the appropriate person on my tree (I hope). One thing I keep seeing is a long number attached to some of the names in my tree. Don't have a clue what that means?? Anyhow, I'd appreciate the help if you are willing. Thanks, Edward Palmer -----Original Message----- From: warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Colin Liddell Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 8:29 AM To: warwick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WAR] Edith Annie Gilkes Ed, In the 1861 Census I found; Robert PALMER age 42 born Stoneleigh, Warwichshire a Ag Lab Mary Palmer age 32 born Morton Morrell? Warwickshire William age 11 born Stoneleigh, Warwickshire Elizabeth age 9 born " " Emma age 6 born " " Sarah A. age 4 born " " John age 1 born " " In the 1871 Census Robert age 52 and Mary Ann age 42 are still there with Sarah A. and John plus two more children, Joseph age 6 born in Stoneleigh and Eliza age 1 born in Stoneleigh and James age 4 born Stoneleigh. In the 1881 Census Robert age 61 and Mary Ann age 51 are still there with James age 15 a Bootmaker's app., Eliza age 11 a scholar and Walter age 9 a scholar born Stoneleigh. In 1891 Walter is in the Army at the Royal Artilliry Barracks Sheerness. This looks to be the death of Robert; Deaths Dec 1890 Palmer Robert 70 Warwick 6d 389 And this the death of Mary Ann; Deaths Mar 1891 Palmer Mary Ann 59 Warwick 6d 427 I am going away early tomorrow morning and won;t be back till Sunday the 9th, if no other person has been able to help, I would be quite happy (if you have broadband) to send you the original Census for 1851, 1861, 1871 and 1881. I could also try and chase upon some of the other children. Regards, Colin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Palmer" <epalmer@pipertonpolice.org> To: <warwick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 5:37 AM Subject: Re: [WAR] Edith Annie Gilkes > I am trying to trace my Great-G Grandfathers family in England. > > My Great Gr Grandfather was named William Palmer and he was born in 1850. > His parents were Robert Palmer and Mary Ann Mann. He married Ellen Swift > in > Birmingam in 1870 and according to what I can surmise they immigrated to > the > U.S. in 1872. I'd like to know about William's siblings and other family > members who were left behind in the UK. I can find no record of their > arrival on any ship or any indication they were naturalized even though in > the U S census that is indicated. > > I have an old photo of a grass topped hut and on the back of the photo it > is > labeled "Tile Hill" and the words "presnted to him by his employer Thomas > Swift. Leads me to believe that William Palmer may have married the > bosses > daughter. They were married in the Parish Church of St Thomas in > Birmingham. > > Any help that anyone can give will be really appreciated. Thanks. > > > > > > > > > List archives are at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > List archives are at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> To be honest, I haven't yet made much use of maps.familysearch.org> I've just been exploring it now and although I'm impressed, I think I > still> prefer Kain and Oliver's "electronic maps". <<Is there a website for these maps - or somewhere that a samplecan be viewed?>> I presume this is a reference to Roger Kain's and Richard Oliver's 'Historic Parishes of England and Wales: an Electronic Map of Boundaries before 1850 with a Gazetteer and Metadata' (an excellent resource, once you've got the hang of how to use it). This is available from the UK Data Archive, at http://www.data-archive.ac.uk/ . Search against SN 4348. Matt Tompkins