I suppose the editor of the Lichfield Calendar is familiar with that court's clerical habits, but 'vacat' in the margin of a court record normally means that the entry has been vacated, meaning voided, annulled, cancelled. I wouldn't expect to see it written next to an entry to indicate that the will it related to was missing - it would indicate that the grant of probate or administration or whatever had been cancelled. Matt Tompkins -----Original Message----- From: ramaix <ramaix@orange.fr> To: warwick <warwick@rootsweb.com>; JeffButler <pateena@iprimus.com.au> Sent: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 13:07 Subject: Re: [WAR] Lichfield Wills According to the Preface to the Lichfield Calendar of Wills 1516-1652, which you can find on line by Googling, it means the wills are missing. The Preface also gives a lot of other general information. "For the period covered by the present volume there are no registered copies of Wills in the Registry, with the exception of two small volumes embracing the Wills in Series I. and II. of this Calendar, and a few that are registered in the Ecclesiastical Books of the Consistory Court, and are now preserved in the Diocesan Registry. The original documents are for some periods prior to 1600 very irregular, and in a few instances, notably 1596, 1548, and in some of the letters for 1558 and 1559, are almost all missing. Many of the documents are also missing for the years 1628 and 1629, and from the note "vacat" which is added to many names in those years, in evidently contemporary handwriting, they would seem to have been missing at no great length of time after proof." MAR in France. > Message du 01/11/12 12:53 > De : "Jeff Butler" > A : warwick@rootsweb.com > Copie à : > Objet : [WAR] Lichfield Wills > > > What do the letters vacat. stand for after a person name when looking for a will. > I am looking at Lichfield Wills and Administration 1629 but after the person name it has vacat > Thank you > Jeff

Have just realized one of my Warwick ancestors (not direct line), married into the ARCH family of Berkswell. Am sending you details off list. It won't help you with Joseph, but may help you rule some people out. MAR in France. > Message du 01/11/12 11:32 > De : "William Leece" > A : warwick@rootsweb.com > Copie à : > Objet : Re: [WAR] FW: Arch family of Warwickshire - which village? > > Sorry about the delay..yes, that makes things a bit clearer. > I reckon that from here on in I'm going to have to do the rest of the > spadework myself. There seem to be plenty of partial Arch family trees > scattered across ancestry.co.uk, often with the aim of establishing a link > to Joseph Arch (1826-1919), the agricultural trade unionist and MP who was > born and brought up in Barford. > >From my own researches it looks as if quite a few people have made some > wrong assumptions - easily done as Warwickshire sometimes seems to be > knee-deep in Joseph Arches! By that I mean linking the wrong Joseph to the > wrong spouse, parent etc. As far as I'm concerned. if Joseph Arch MP > suddenly ties into my family then good, there's a story to be told, but I'm > more concerned about establishing solid links with those in direct line. > Which particular record office holds the Berkswell parish records and/or > the relevant BTs? Some family trees suggest there were Arches in Berkswell > as far back as Tudor times - I'd love to see their research in detail. > > Thanks for all your help, > > William Leece > Liverpool > > On 29 October 2012 07:35, Carole Eales wrote: > > > Hi William > > Did this answer your query?? ...we haven't heard back from you. > > Carole > > > > Hi William... > > > > I have checked the records for St. Giles, Exhall, nr. Coventry.... the > > baptism of Joseph Arch took place on 11 July 1773, son of James & Mary > > Arch. > > > > The registers are an absolute mess, but later in the book the Rev. John > > Thickins signed his name.... he was the Vicar of Exhall, nr. Coventry, so I > > think you can be sure that the baptism took place in that church, rather > > than Exhall with Wixford. > > > > Hope that helps > > > > Carole > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com]On > > Behalf Of William Leece > > Sent: 26 October 2012 14:10 > > To: warwick@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [WAR] Arch family of Warwickshire - which village? > > > > Hello all, > > > > The trail of my mother's family leads back to Berkswell where the graves of > > my gt gt gt grand parents Joseph Arch (1774-1840) and his second wife > > Elizabeth (nee Riley), 1790-1860, lie close to the church. > > He appears to be the Joseph Arch, son of James and Mary Arch, baptised at > > Exhall in July 1773. Is there any quick way of finding if this is the > > Exhall in modern suburban Coventry or the Exhall near Stratford? > > There seem to have been Arches in Berkswell right back to the 17th century. > > Has anyone pedigreed the wider Arch family of Berkswell, or is that > > something that can done to keep me out of trouble? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > William Leece > > Liverpool > > ------------------------------- > > List archives are at > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > List archives are at > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

According to the Preface to the Lichfield Calendar of Wills 1516-1652, which you can find on line by Googling, it means the wills are missing. The Preface also gives a lot of other general information. "For the period covered by the present volume there are no registered copies of Wills in the Registry, with the exception of two small volumes embracing the Wills in Series I. and II. of this Calendar, and a few that are registered in the Ecclesiastical Books of the Consistory Court, and are now preserved in the Diocesan Registry. The original documents are for some periods prior to 1600 very irregular, and in a few instances, notably 1596, 1548, and in some of the letters for 1558 and 1559, are almost all missing. Many of the documents are also missing for the years 1628 and 1629, and from the note "vacat" which is added to many names in those years, in evidently contemporary handwriting, they would seem to have been missing at no great length of time after proof." MAR in France. > Message du 01/11/12 12:53 > De : "Jeff Butler" > A : warwick@rootsweb.com > Copie à : > Objet : [WAR] Lichfield Wills > > > What do the letters vacat. stand for after a person name when looking for a will. > I am looking at Lichfield Wills and Administration 1629 but after the person name it has vacat > Thank you > Jeff > ------------------------------- > List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks MAR... Gus -----Original Message----- From: warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ramaix Sent: 01 November 2012 13:05 To: warwick@rootsweb.com; JeffButler Subject: Re: [WAR] Lichfield Wills According to the Preface to the Lichfield Calendar of Wills 1516-1652, which you can find on line by Googling, it means the wills are missing. The Preface also gives a lot of other general information. "For the period covered by the present volume there are no registered copies of Wills in the Registry, with the exception of two small volumes embracing the Wills in Series I. and II. of this Calendar, and a few that are registered in the Ecclesiastical Books of the Consistory Court, and are now preserved in the Diocesan Registry. The original documents are for some periods prior to 1600 very irregular, and in a few instances, notably 1596, 1548, and in some of the letters for 1558 and 1559, are almost all missing. Many of the documents are also missing for the years 1628 and 1629, and from the note "vacat" which is added to many names in those years, in evidently contemporary handwriting, they would seem to have been missing at no great length of time after proof." MAR in France. > Message du 01/11/12 12:53 > De : "Jeff Butler" > A : warwick@rootsweb.com > Copie à : > Objet : [WAR] Lichfield Wills > > > What do the letters vacat. stand for after a person name when looking for a will. > I am looking at Lichfield Wills and Administration 1629 but after the person name it has vacat > Thank you > Jeff > ------------------------------- > List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You'd probably need to see the document[s] to establish the true position, but I'd suggest a likely one would be "bona vacantia" where the deceased either left a Will with no beneficiaries named and/or, if intestate, had no living or traceable family. In both cases the estate would "revert to the Crown" - as is still the case today. There are other possibilities - even knowing the person's name and the full content of the Index could throw some light. Plus the possibility that the Indexer misread it! [I'm involved in indexing the Worcester Wills of the 1600s and know only too well that such misinterpretations are all too likely when working from damaged or faded documents...] But at present there's "insufficient evidence" to come up with the answer. Gus -----Original Message----- From: warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Butler Sent: 01 November 2012 11:53 To: warwick@rootsweb.com Subject: [WAR] Lichfield Wills What do the letters vacat. stand for after a person name when looking for a will. I am looking at Lichfield Wills and Administration 1629 but after the person name it has vacat Thank you Jeff ------------------------------- List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Could be an abbreviation for "vacated" ie void ? > From: pateena@iprimus.com.au > To: warwick@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 22:53:03 +1100 > Subject: [WAR] Lichfield Wills > > > What do the letters vacat. stand for after a person name when looking for a will. > I am looking at Lichfield Wills and Administration 1629 but after the person name it has vacat > Thank you > Jeff

Sorry about the delay..yes, that makes things a bit clearer. I reckon that from here on in I'm going to have to do the rest of the spadework myself. There seem to be plenty of partial Arch family trees scattered across ancestry.co.uk, often with the aim of establishing a link to Joseph Arch (1826-1919), the agricultural trade unionist and MP who was born and brought up in Barford. >From my own researches it looks as if quite a few people have made some wrong assumptions - easily done as Warwickshire sometimes seems to be knee-deep in Joseph Arches! By that I mean linking the wrong Joseph to the wrong spouse, parent etc. As far as I'm concerned. if Joseph Arch MP suddenly ties into my family then good, there's a story to be told, but I'm more concerned about establishing solid links with those in direct line. Which particular record office holds the Berkswell parish records and/or the relevant BTs? Some family trees suggest there were Arches in Berkswell as far back as Tudor times - I'd love to see their research in detail. Thanks for all your help, William Leece Liverpool On 29 October 2012 07:35, Carole Eales <carole.eales@talktalk.net> wrote: > Hi William > Did this answer your query?? ...we haven't heard back from you. > Carole > > Hi William... > > I have checked the records for St. Giles, Exhall, nr. Coventry.... the > baptism of Joseph Arch took place on 11 July 1773, son of James & Mary > Arch. > > The registers are an absolute mess, but later in the book the Rev. John > Thickins signed his name.... he was the Vicar of Exhall, nr. Coventry, so I > think you can be sure that the baptism took place in that church, rather > than Exhall with Wixford. > > Hope that helps > > Carole > > -----Original Message----- > From: warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com]On > Behalf Of William Leece > Sent: 26 October 2012 14:10 > To: warwick@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WAR] Arch family of Warwickshire - which village? > > Hello all, > > The trail of my mother's family leads back to Berkswell where the graves of > my gt gt gt grand parents Joseph Arch (1774-1840) and his second wife > Elizabeth (nee Riley), 1790-1860, lie close to the church. > He appears to be the Joseph Arch, son of James and Mary Arch, baptised at > Exhall in July 1773. Is there any quick way of finding if this is the > Exhall in modern suburban Coventry or the Exhall near Stratford? > There seem to have been Arches in Berkswell right back to the 17th century. > Has anyone pedigreed the wider Arch family of Berkswell, or is that > something that can done to keep me out of trouble? > > Thanks in advance, > > William Leece > Liverpool > ------------------------------- > List archives are at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > List archives are at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Is anyone else researching the GROVES family of Warwick. I’m looking for siblings/parents of Richard GROVES born abt 1820.

HI all I have found a Death Index entry and Social Security death index entry for a relative. As so few of my lot went to the US, I wondered which of these would give me the most information. I have a brother inlaw who can get me the original entries, but I don't want to waste his time [and money] getting the wrong one! Thanks Barbara

Hello Carol, It is not at all unusual for people in the provinces to own property in London, which they let out. In fact, a good part of London is still owned by people who don't live there. When London was developing rapidly in the 19th century, it provided many investment opportunities, as it still does, except that now the investors are more likely to come from Qatar or Moscow than Warwickshire! MAR in France. > Message du 30/10/12 15:59 > De : "Carol Kennedy" > A : warwick@rootsweb.com > Copie à : > Objet : [WAR] More questions > > These documents are held at Warwickshire County Record Office > > Contents: > In 1807 William Steel of Kenilworth, timber merchant, devised three > messuages in Castle End, then in the occupations of the Draper and Rawlins' > family to Mary Peate with reversion to his son William Steel, who in 1816 > conveyed a messuage, garden and croft called Meese Place at Castle End and > another croft called Meese Place near Sharpes Green to Richard Rawlins of > Kenilworth, carpenter. The property at Meese Place featured in the marriage > settlement of Philip Perkins of Cryfield, Stoneleigh, farmer, and Elizabeth, > Richard Rawlins' daughter in 1818. In 1821, Daniel Winter Burbury of > Warwick, solicitor, conveyed to Richard Rawlins of Kenilworth, yeoman, land > at the bottom of Castle End, being part of Barn Close. Three copies of D.W. > Burbury's abstract of title to Barn Close (1755 or 1756-1821), 1823. The > Somers Town property (1814, 1823) belonged to Thomas Hicks of Somers Town, > victualler, whose marriage settlement with Elizabeth Perkins of Kenilworth, > widow, is dated 1825. The draft will of Elizabeth Hicks of Rouncil Lane, > Kenilworth, refers to the property at Castle End, 1846. The probate of the > will of Richard Rawlins of Kenilworth, yeoman, dated 1851, refers to his > property at Castle End and in 1861 a draft conveyance (part of which only > survives) from Henry Hicks of Kenilworth gent. to John Hands of Newbold > Pacey gent. referred to many properties in Kenilworth including the Meese > Place property and the Barn Close property at Castle End. > > My questions: > It states "belonged to Thomas Hicks of Somerstown, Victualler-- > > That confuses me; as Eliz and Thomas married in Stoneleigh.... > **How does Somerstown fit into my families history?** > And > Phillip Perkins of Cryfield,,,,,,,, > I have not been able to find a birth for him. I found his death date. > I found this- > > FILE - Legal papersxxx - ref. CR 237/391 - date: c1828-1831 > > item: "The joint answer of Thomas Hicks and Elizabeth his wife, two of the > defendants to the bill of complaint of John Perkins, an infant, by Catherine > Perkins her [his?] next friend, the said Catherine Perkins and Elizabeth > Perkins complainants", concerning the will of John Perkins, the grandfather > of Elizabeth and Catherine; and Philip Perkins, the son of John and uncle of > Elizabeth and Catherine, and to whose will Elizabeth Hicks became the > executrix: concerning £400 purportedly due from the estate of Philip Perkins > to the trusts of the will of John Perkins to the benefit of the plaintiffs. > [Three spinster Perkins of Kenilworth appear in CR 237/391/] as mortgagees > to Job Willson, 1788.] - ref. CR 237/391/2 - date: [Post 1829] > ======================== > Yikes,,,,,,,,,I should have been a Lawyer!!! > > Thank goodness the storm is over. The wind was horrendous. > The 2nd half is over us now, but no damaging winds like yesterday. We may > have our power back on by tomorrow night 6pm. Thank goodness for generators! > Regards from Massachusetts > Carol > > > ------------------------------- > List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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These documents are held at Warwickshire County Record Office Contents: In 1807 William Steel of Kenilworth, timber merchant, devised three messuages in Castle End, then in the occupations of the Draper and Rawlins' family to Mary Peate with reversion to his son William Steel, who in 1816 conveyed a messuage, garden and croft called Meese Place at Castle End and another croft called Meese Place near Sharpes Green to Richard Rawlins of Kenilworth, carpenter. The property at Meese Place featured in the marriage settlement of Philip Perkins of Cryfield, Stoneleigh, farmer, and Elizabeth, Richard Rawlins' daughter in 1818. In 1821, Daniel Winter Burbury of Warwick, solicitor, conveyed to Richard Rawlins of Kenilworth, yeoman, land at the bottom of Castle End, being part of Barn Close. Three copies of D.W. Burbury's abstract of title to Barn Close (1755 or 1756-1821), 1823. The Somers Town property (1814, 1823) belonged to Thomas Hicks of Somers Town, victualler, whose marriage settlement with Elizabeth Perkins of Kenilworth, widow, is dated 1825. The draft will of Elizabeth Hicks of Rouncil Lane, Kenilworth, refers to the property at Castle End, 1846. The probate of the will of Richard Rawlins of Kenilworth, yeoman, dated 1851, refers to his property at Castle End and in 1861 a draft conveyance (part of which only survives) from Henry Hicks of Kenilworth gent. to John Hands of Newbold Pacey gent. referred to many properties in Kenilworth including the Meese Place property and the Barn Close property at Castle End. My questions: It states "belonged to Thomas Hicks of Somerstown, Victualler-- That confuses me; as Eliz and Thomas married in Stoneleigh.... **How does Somerstown fit into my families history?** And Phillip Perkins of Cryfield,,,,,,,, I have not been able to find a birth for him. I found his death date. I found this- FILE - Legal papersxxx - ref. CR 237/391 - date: c1828-1831 item: "The joint answer of Thomas Hicks and Elizabeth his wife, two of the defendants to the bill of complaint of John Perkins, an infant, by Catherine Perkins her [his?] next friend, the said Catherine Perkins and Elizabeth Perkins complainants", concerning the will of John Perkins, the grandfather of Elizabeth and Catherine; and Philip Perkins, the son of John and uncle of Elizabeth and Catherine, and to whose will Elizabeth Hicks became the executrix: concerning £400 purportedly due from the estate of Philip Perkins to the trusts of the will of John Perkins to the benefit of the plaintiffs. [Three spinster Perkins of Kenilworth appear in CR 237/391/] as mortgagees to Job Willson, 1788.] - ref. CR 237/391/2 - date: [Post 1829] ======================== Yikes,,,,,,,,,I should have been a Lawyer!!! Thank goodness the storm is over. The wind was horrendous. The 2nd half is over us now, but no damaging winds like yesterday. We may have our power back on by tomorrow night 6pm. Thank goodness for generators! Regards from Massachusetts Carol

The Kenilworth Duchy of Lancaster lands (the 'Duchy Manor' or 'Castle Manor') were roughly the half of the town which is south of the present day clock tower in the Square, and this was known as 'Castle End'. The half of the town to the north was known as 'Abbey Manor' , the 'Augmentation Manor' or Abbey End. See http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=57113 which says: 'In 1581 each manor had a court leet and assize of bread, beer, and ale. The former manor in Castle End had 43 free tenants with 47 holdings, and 11 customary tenants with 12 holdings. A fair was held each year at Michaelmas. In the Abbey manor there were 5 free tenants with 6 holdings, 29 customary tenants with 31 holdings, and 1 tenant at will; a fair was held in the High Town at Midsummer even, Midsummer day, and the day after, where horses and cattle were sold.' Regards John

I see from Google that Kenilworth Castle is built on Duchy of Lancaster land so there must have been some land in the area belonging to the Duchy of Lancaster See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Lancaster Bob -----Original Message----- From: warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carol Kennedy Sent: 29 October 2012 16:27 To: warwick@rootsweb.com Subject: [WAR] Kenilworth Dutchy Parish: Kenellworth Dutchey I would like to know what Kenellworth Dutchey means Please?!!

<http://www.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=2418&enc=1> arwickshire, England, Occupational and Quarter Session Records, 1662-1866 about Edwd Rawlins Name: Edwd Rawlins Date: 1671 Parish: Kenellworth Dutchey Hundred: Brayles Record Type: Hearth Tax Returns I would like to know what Kenellworth Dutchey means Please?!! The wind is picking up here in MA. Hope we're not blown off the mountain. The worst is yet to come. Thanks a bunch Carol If I word my questions incorrectly - I apologize. :)

Hi William Did this answer your query?? ...we haven't heard back from you. Carole Hi William... I have checked the records for St. Giles, Exhall, nr. Coventry.... the baptism of Joseph Arch took place on 11 July 1773, son of James & Mary Arch. The registers are an absolute mess, but later in the book the Rev. John Thickins signed his name.... he was the Vicar of Exhall, nr. Coventry, so I think you can be sure that the baptism took place in that church, rather than Exhall with Wixford. Hope that helps Carole -----Original Message----- From: warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of William Leece Sent: 26 October 2012 14:10 To: warwick@rootsweb.com Subject: [WAR] Arch family of Warwickshire - which village? Hello all, The trail of my mother's family leads back to Berkswell where the graves of my gt gt gt grand parents Joseph Arch (1774-1840) and his second wife Elizabeth (nee Riley), 1790-1860, lie close to the church. He appears to be the Joseph Arch, son of James and Mary Arch, baptised at Exhall in July 1773. Is there any quick way of finding if this is the Exhall in modern suburban Coventry or the Exhall near Stratford? There seem to have been Arches in Berkswell right back to the 17th century. Has anyone pedigreed the wider Arch family of Berkswell, or is that something that can done to keep me out of trouble? Thanks in advance, William Leece Liverpool ------------------------------- List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for answers re Thomas Hester. The one borne in Shoreditch in 1789 I thought was mine until I saw there was a Thomas Hester listed in 1861 census who was born in Shoreditch in 1790. This was a problem for me as it seemed to be my Thomas who came to West Australia in 1829. What do you think? Could there be a different one in the 1861 census ? Anne Harse

Hi Anne, I am coming into this correspondence quite late, but had you looked at the Hesters of Aston Rowant (Oxfordshire)? I know that there was an exodus of the family to Aus as two brothers of my ggggrandfather Jame EELES married HESTERS and emigrated. Although I have no direct link with the family I know they settled in Yallock (Vict), Geelong, Raywood, Moorabool. Steve

Thanks Bob, Unfortunately this is one of those cases where the extra context doesn't help all that much - other than to establish there were a lot of them... Nevertheless I'm relieved that today's Clay Bank Farm would seem to indicate the rough northern extent - especially when taken with Roger's posting. Gus -----Original Message----- From: warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bob Douglas Sent: 27 October 2012 07:18 To: warwick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WAR] Tanworth Hi Gus This was from 17thC Hearth Tax returns A lot of Tanworth was in the Clay Side part Bob -----Original Message----- From: warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gus Tysoe Sent: 27 October 2012 06:57 To: warwick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WAR] Tanworth Hello Bob, I can't find a Clay Side on today's OS map, but there IS a Clay Bank Farm lying to the East of the B4102 immediately to the South of Earlswood. Where did you get the address from? And if not a Census, what date? A little more context usually helps. Gus -----Original Message----- From: warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bob Douglas Sent: 26 October 2012 16:43 To: warwick@rootsweb.com Subject: [WAR] Tanworth Hi Found a couple of my Tanworth ancestors lived at Clay Side Tanworth Anyone have a clue where this might be? Bob ------------------------------- List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi William... I have checked the records for St. Giles, Exhall, nr. Coventry.... the baptism of Joseph Arch took place on 11 July 1773, son of James & Mary Arch. The registers are an absolute mess, but later in the book the Rev. John Thickins signed his name.... he was the Vicar of Exhall, nr. Coventry, so I think you can be sure that the baptism took place in that church, rather than Exhall with Wixford. Hope that helps Carole -----Original Message----- From: warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of William Leece Sent: 26 October 2012 14:10 To: warwick@rootsweb.com Subject: [WAR] Arch family of Warwickshire - which village? Hello all, The trail of my mother's family leads back to Berkswell where the graves of my gt gt gt grand parents Joseph Arch (1774-1840) and his second wife Elizabeth (nee Riley), 1790-1860, lie close to the church. He appears to be the Joseph Arch, son of James and Mary Arch, baptised at Exhall in July 1773. Is there any quick way of finding if this is the Exhall in modern suburban Coventry or the Exhall near Stratford? There seem to have been Arches in Berkswell right back to the 17th century. Has anyone pedigreed the wider Arch family of Berkswell, or is that something that can done to keep me out of trouble? Thanks in advance, William Leece Liverpool ------------------------------- List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message