I did these steps the first time I tried to get access and it worked, but not the second time. I have posted my question directly to the site, so perhaps they will be able to help out. If I learn something that will help other readers, I'll post it. Thanks, Eileen Message: 3 Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 07:59:31 +0000 From: Nivard Ovington<ovington1@sky.com> Subject: Re: [WAR] Warwickshire maps To:warwick@rootsweb.com Message-ID:<509B6663.4070306@sky.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi Eileen If you go to the home page and look for first time here , then follow the links to register, you will see in the FAQs that you can register from overseas Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)
Hello all I haven't tried the system below. A couple of years ago I attempted to purchase the CD set - not for me but for use where I am a volunteer indexer - it would be oh so useful. The University replied, explaining that the copyright owners had moved to another establishment. That all applications had to be passed to them. And warned that I probably would not have any reply. She was correct. I am aware that at least one other on this List had a similar experience. Being somewhat cynical, I am not surprised that Eileen is finding access problematical. Jacqui ----- Original Message ----- From: mlltompkins@aol.com To: warwick@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [WAR] Warwickshire maps Is there not a box with a link saying 'Download/Order'? That appears twice on the page I get if I follow the instructions below, at top and bottom. If you click on that link it will ask you to log in, which you can't do unless you have first registered. But that page also contains several links that explain how to register. When you get to the 'How to Access Data' page you'll see that it is possible for people who don't belong to a UK tertiary education institution to register. You have to apply, I think explaining why you want the data, but as far as I'm aware they're pretty generous about who is allowed to register. Matt -----Original Message----- From: Eileen Stonely Phelps <eileen.phelps@littlehillservices.net> To: WARWICK <WARWICK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 2:50 Subject: Re: [WAR] Warwickshire maps In response to the message below, thanks for your reply, Matt. I tried these teps and still got only an article about the map, not the map itself. I also encountered a new problem. I was not supplied with a field that let me og in again as a member of the general public. It only offers me the link to Login via UK federation", which lists colleges, etc. I suspect that my problem is that I am trying to do this from California. I know t's possible to fake an IP address, but I'd really rather not. I looked at the ink for non-UK residents, but I didn't find anything helpful about logging in nd it said nothing about excluding old maps. Is there anyone on this list that can access it from outside the UK? Eileen Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 16:27:18 -0500 (EST) rom:mlltompkins@aol.com ubject: Re: [WAR] Warwickshire maps o:warwick@rootsweb.com essage-ID:<8CF8A7CA1EC8E62-808-1AFC0@Webmail-m111.sysops.aol.com> ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ry this: click on the <Find Data> link near the top right corner of the page then click on <Search at ESDS> (white letters on a maroon rectangle) then type 'Historic Parishes of England and Wales' in the top search field and lick <Search> That worked for me just now. Matt" ------------------------------- ist archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------- List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Eileen If you go to the home page and look for first time here , then follow the links to register, you will see in the FAQs that you can register from overseas Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 08/11/2012 02:46, Eileen Stonely Phelps wrote: > In response to the message below, thanks for your reply, Matt. I tried these steps and still got only an article about the map, not the map itself. > > I also encountered a new problem. I was not supplied with a field that let me log in again as a member of the general public. It only offers me the link to "Login via UK federation", which lists colleges, etc. > > I suspect that my problem is that I am trying to do this from California. I know it's possible to fake an IP address, but I'd really rather not. I looked at the link for non-UK residents, but I didn't find anything helpful about logging in and it said nothing about excluding old maps. > > Is there anyone on this list that can access it from outside the UK? > > Eileen
Is there not a box with a link saying 'Download/Order'? That appears twice on the page I get if I follow the instructions below, at top and bottom. If you click on that link it will ask you to log in, which you can't do unless you have first registered. But that page also contains several links that explain how to register. When you get to the 'How to Access Data' page you'll see that it is possible for people who don't belong to a UK tertiary education institution to register. You have to apply, I think explaining why you want the data, but as far as I'm aware they're pretty generous about who is allowed to register. Matt -----Original Message----- From: Eileen Stonely Phelps <eileen.phelps@littlehillservices.net> To: WARWICK <WARWICK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 2:50 Subject: Re: [WAR] Warwickshire maps In response to the message below, thanks for your reply, Matt. I tried these teps and still got only an article about the map, not the map itself. I also encountered a new problem. I was not supplied with a field that let me og in again as a member of the general public. It only offers me the link to Login via UK federation", which lists colleges, etc. I suspect that my problem is that I am trying to do this from California. I know t's possible to fake an IP address, but I'd really rather not. I looked at the ink for non-UK residents, but I didn't find anything helpful about logging in nd it said nothing about excluding old maps. Is there anyone on this list that can access it from outside the UK? Eileen Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 16:27:18 -0500 (EST) rom:mlltompkins@aol.com ubject: Re: [WAR] Warwickshire maps o:warwick@rootsweb.com essage-ID:<8CF8A7CA1EC8E62-808-1AFC0@Webmail-m111.sysops.aol.com> ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ry this: click on the <Find Data> link near the top right corner of the page then click on <Search at ESDS> (white letters on a maroon rectangle) then type 'Historic Parishes of England and Wales' in the top search field and lick <Search> That worked for me just now. Matt" ------------------------------- ist archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message
Yes, from Canada -----Original Message----- From: Eileen Stonely Phelps Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 9:46 PM To: WARWICK@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WAR] Warwickshire maps In response to the message below, thanks for your reply, Matt. I tried these steps and still got only an article about the map, not the map itself. I also encountered a new problem. I was not supplied with a field that let me log in again as a member of the general public. It only offers me the link to "Login via UK federation", which lists colleges, etc. I suspect that my problem is that I am trying to do this from California. I know it's possible to fake an IP address, but I'd really rather not. I looked at the link for non-UK residents, but I didn't find anything helpful about logging in and it said nothing about excluding old maps. Is there anyone on this list that can access it from outside the UK? Eileen "Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 16:27:18 -0500 (EST) From:mlltompkins@aol.com Subject: Re: [WAR] Warwickshire maps To:warwick@rootsweb.com Message-ID:<8CF8A7CA1EC8E62-808-1AFC0@Webmail-m111.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Try this: click on the <Find Data> link near the top right corner of the page then click on <Search at ESDS> (white letters on a maroon rectangle) then type 'Historic Parishes of England and Wales' in the top search field and click <Search> That worked for me just now. Matt" ------------------------------- List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
John Interesting history of redevelopment. Amazing how few foreign made cars in photos - I found a VW Beetle, VW bus and possibly a Volvo saloon ! Ray -----Original Message----- From: warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Laurie Thompson Sent: 06 November 2012 21:10 To: warwick@rootsweb.com; 'John Ball' Subject: Re: [WAR] New "Images of Birmingham" John I congratulate you on an outstanding website . I have a question , can I have the details on Sarah Ann Thompson please . Laurie Thompson Australia . -----Original Message----- From: warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Ball Sent: Tuesday, 6 November 2012 10:30 PM To: warwick@rootsweb.com Subject: [WAR] New "Images of Birmingham" Those interested in Birmingham in the late 1950s and early 1960s may be interested in a new "Images of Birmingham" feature just added to my website. I have made available my collection of 210 photographs of Birmingham, mostly from the '50s and '60s. All the photos are originals and have never before been accessible to the public. The photos were scanned mainly from 35mm colour and black and white transparencies, supplemented by scans of colour and black and white prints, and negatives. Each photo is dated, and accompanied by an informative caption. Click on the "Images of Birmingham" link on my homepage at http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/ I'd be interested to hear your comments. Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2011.co.uk Website: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/ ------------------------------- List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
In response to the message below, thanks for your reply, Matt. I tried these steps and still got only an article about the map, not the map itself. I also encountered a new problem. I was not supplied with a field that let me log in again as a member of the general public. It only offers me the link to "Login via UK federation", which lists colleges, etc. I suspect that my problem is that I am trying to do this from California. I know it's possible to fake an IP address, but I'd really rather not. I looked at the link for non-UK residents, but I didn't find anything helpful about logging in and it said nothing about excluding old maps. Is there anyone on this list that can access it from outside the UK? Eileen "Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 16:27:18 -0500 (EST) From:mlltompkins@aol.com Subject: Re: [WAR] Warwickshire maps To:warwick@rootsweb.com Message-ID:<8CF8A7CA1EC8E62-808-1AFC0@Webmail-m111.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Try this: click on the <Find Data> link near the top right corner of the page then click on <Search at ESDS> (white letters on a maroon rectangle) then type 'Historic Parishes of England and Wales' in the top search field and click <Search> That worked for me just now. Matt"
John I congratulate you on an outstanding website . I have a question , can I have the details on Sarah Ann Thompson please . Laurie Thompson Australia . -----Original Message----- From: warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Ball Sent: Tuesday, 6 November 2012 10:30 PM To: warwick@rootsweb.com Subject: [WAR] New "Images of Birmingham" Those interested in Birmingham in the late 1950s and early 1960s may be interested in a new "Images of Birmingham" feature just added to my website. I have made available my collection of 210 photographs of Birmingham, mostly from the '50s and '60s. All the photos are originals and have never before been accessible to the public. The photos were scanned mainly from 35mm colour and black and white transparencies, supplemented by scans of colour and black and white prints, and negatives. Each photo is dated, and accompanied by an informative caption. Click on the "Images of Birmingham" link on my homepage at http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/ I'd be interested to hear your comments. Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2011.co.uk Website: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/ ------------------------------- List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Try this: click on the <Find Data> link near the top right corner of the page then click on <Search at ESDS> (white letters on a maroon rectangle) then type 'Historic Parishes of England and Wales' in the top search field and click <Search> That worked for me just now. Matt -----Original Message----- From: Eileen Stonely Phelps <eileen.phelps@littlehillservices.net> To: WARWICK <WARWICK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 7:41 Subject: Re: [WAR] Warwickshire maps This is in response to Matt Tompkins' posting: "I presume this is a reference to Roger Kain's and Richard Oliver's 'Historic Parishes of England and Wales: an Electronic Map of Boundaries before 1850 with a Gazetteer and Metadata' (an excellent resource, once you've got the hang of how to use it). This is available from the UK Data Archive, athttp://www.data-archive.ac.uk/ . Search against SN 4348. Matt Tompkins" I followed his link and found that searching on SN 4348 returned no results. Keywords didn't either. However, I found this link: https://www.esrc.ac.uk/my-esrc/Profile/Register/ and so registered. I seem to have been accepted, because I am logged in. I got more from searching, but I still haven't been able to get to an actual map. What am I doing wrong? Eileen Phelps ------------------------------- List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Those interested in Birmingham in the late 1950s and early 1960s may be interested in a new "Images of Birmingham" feature just added to my website. I have made available my collection of 210 photographs of Birmingham, mostly from the '50s and '60s. All the photos are originals and have never before been accessible to the public. The photos were scanned mainly from 35mm colour and black and white transparencies, supplemented by scans of colour and black and white prints, and negatives. Each photo is dated, and accompanied by an informative caption. Click on the "Images of Birmingham" link on my homepage at http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/ I'd be interested to hear your comments. Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2011.co.uk Website: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/
This is in response to Matt Tompkins' posting: "I presume this is a reference to Roger Kain's and Richard Oliver's 'Historic Parishes of England and Wales: an Electronic Map of Boundaries before 1850 with a Gazetteer and Metadata' (an excellent resource, once you've got the hang of how to use it). This is available from the UK Data Archive, athttp://www.data-archive.ac.uk/ . Search against SN 4348. Matt Tompkins" I followed his link and found that searching on SN 4348 returned no results. Keywords didn't either. However, I found this link: https://www.esrc.ac.uk/my-esrc/Profile/Register/ and so registered. I seem to have been accepted, because I am logged in. I got more from searching, but I still haven't been able to get to an actual map. What am I doing wrong? Eileen Phelps
On Oct 21, 2012, at 6:15 PM, mlltompkins@aol.com wrote: > >> To be honest, I haven't yet made much use of maps.familysearch.org> I've just been exploring it now and although I'm impressed, I think I > still> prefer Kain and Oliver's "electronic maps". > > <<Is there a website for these maps - or somewhere that a samplecan be viewed?>> > > > I presume this is a reference to Roger Kain's and Richard Oliver's 'Historic Parishes of England and Wales: an Electronic Map of Boundaries before 1850 with a Gazetteer and Metadata' (an excellent resource, once you've got the hang of how to use it). > > This is available from the UK Data Archive, at http://www.data-archive.ac.uk/ . Search against SN 4348. > > Matt Tompkins > > ------------------------------- > List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Further to Jacqui's and Matt's postings, Thurlaston, WAR, was merely a township [as Jacqui states] in Dunchurch Parish - and has apparently never been a chapelry nor an ecclesiastical parish - and in 1629 was in Lichfield & Coventry Diocese. Thurlaston, LEI, however was an 'Ancient Parish' both civilly and ecclesiastically - and, as Matt states, then in Leicester Archdeaconry - but that was then in Lincoln Diocese. Matters are somewhat complicated by the Archdeaconry being transferred to Peterborough Diocese in 1837 and then transferred to Leicester Diocese in 1926. Much would depend on whether or not the historical archives were transferred between them at any time[s] - which is another matter entirely :-( The underlying question that might decide the matter is the source of the information giving the place of 'death' as Thurlaston as it seems unlikely that Henry Butler was buried in Thurmaston, WAR... Gus From: warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jacqui Simkins Sent: 02 November 2012 18:28 One of the 'trick' places...there is also Thurlaston, a township within the ancient parish of Dunchurch WAR. If a record does not clearly state the ecclesiastical parish OR the county, then Thurlaston has to be treated as being either WAR or LEI. Jacqui From: mlltompkins@aol.com Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 10:25 AM Thurlaston in Leicestershire? Wouldn't a will from there be in the Leicester archdeaconry records, at Leicester RO? Matt Tompkins From: Jeff Butler <pateena@iprimus.com.au> Sent: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 0:45 Hello Thank you all for the replies may have to give it a miss, which frustrating as I ave a Henry Butler born about 1555 died 1625 Thurlaston. There is an entry for Henry Butler 1629 vacat but has no place name. I did send away awhile go to the Lichfield Record Office for probate results for utler 1585-1635 there is no Henry Butler for that date . Thank you again Jeff
Thurlaston next to Dunchurch Warwick Jeff
One of the 'trick' places...there is also Thurlaston, a township within the ancient parish of Dunchurch WAR. If a record does not clearly state the ecclesiastical parish OR the county, then Thurlaston has to be treated as being either WAR or LEI. Jacqui ----- Original Message ----- From: mlltompkins@aol.com To: warwick@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [WAR] Lichfield Wills Thurlaston in Leicestershire? Wouldn't a will from there be in the Leicester archdeaconry records, at Leicester RO? Matt Tompkins -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Butler <pateena@iprimus.com.au> To: warwick <warwick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 0:45 Subject: [WAR] Lichfield Wills Hello Thank you all for the replies may have to give it a miss, which frustrating as I ave a Henry Butler born about 1555 died 1625 Thurlaston. There is an entry for Henry Butler 1629 vacat but has no place name. I did send away awhile go to the Lichfield Record Office for probate results for utler 1585-1635 there is no Henry Butler for that date . Thank you again Jeff ------------------------------ ist archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------- List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello Thank you all for the replies may have to give it a miss, which frustrating as I have a Henry Butler born about 1555 died 1625 Thurlaston. There is an entry for a Henry Butler 1629 vacat but has no place name. I did send away awhile go to the Lichfield Record Office for probate results for Butler 1585-1635 there is no Henry Butler for that date . Thank you again Jeff
Barbara, I'm not sure what the "death Index" is that you refer to but I think you might get more info from the social security application. Since you found him on the SSDI you have his SS number which will save you a few dollars. Good luck, Kay > HI all > I have found a Death Index entry and Social Security death index entry for > a relative. As so few of my lot went to the US, I wondered which of these > would give me the most information. I have a brother inlaw who can get me > the original entries, but I don't want to waste his time [and money] > getting the wrong one! > > Thanks > Barbara >
If I have the correct Richard GROVES, he is in the 1841/1851 census records of St Nicholas Warwick and is married to a Harriet. The marriage register images via Ancestry make interesting reading. There is a marriage record on 8 February 1836 at St Nicholas Warwick of a Richard GROVES and a Harriet SIMPSON. Both marked and the witnesses were George WARD who signed and Sarah DALE who marked. By my reckoning of ages on the 1851 census record this would make Harriet only 15 at most & Richard only 16 at best. What is interesting is that the banns for this marriage were read on 22 & 29 November 1835 when there is an entry at the bottom reading "Banns forbidden by Mrs Sarah GROVES of Wellesbourne" - presumably this is Richard's mother and because he was under age (bit of speculation here!) - followed by a further banns entry on 8 January 1836. Coincidentally, there is a baptism at Wellesbourne on 27 April 1817 of a Richard GROVES son of Richard & Sarah GROVES of Wellsbourn, Labourer. Siblings are: 14 April 1806 Ann GROVES daughter of Richard & Sarah - private baptism 4 March 1810 Alice GROVES daughter of Richard & Sarah 17 July 1814 Mary GROVES daughter of Richard & Sarah, Labourer 15 October 1820 Maria GROVES daughter of Richard & Sarah, Labourer There is a burial at Wellesbourne on 4 June 1843 of a Sarah GROVES, aged 63 and one at Wellesbourne on 21 November 1848 of a Richard GROVES aged 88 which could be relevant to you. 1841 census of Wellesbourne Hastings (HO107/1134/12, folio 5, page 2) shows: Richard GROVES 72 Ag Lab Born in county no Sarah do 66 yes Maria do 21 yes There is a marriage at Wellesbourne (via Ancestry's parish register images) on 22 July 1803 of a Richard GROVES & a Sarah WHYETT by banns, both being shown as of the parish. Witnesses were John WHYAT & Sarah WHYAT and all parties made their mark. Hope this helps Janet -----Original Message----- From: Steve Trigg Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 3:35 PM To: WARWICK@rootsweb.com Subject: [WAR] GROVES family Is anyone else researching the GROVES family of Warwick. I’m looking for siblings/parents of Richard GROVES born abt 1820. ------------------------------- List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thurlaston in Leicestershire? Wouldn't a will from there be in the Leicester archdeaconry records, at Leicester RO? Matt Tompkins -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Butler <pateena@iprimus.com.au> To: warwick <warwick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 0:45 Subject: [WAR] Lichfield Wills Hello Thank you all for the replies may have to give it a miss, which frustrating as I ave a Henry Butler born about 1555 died 1625 Thurlaston. There is an entry for Henry Butler 1629 vacat but has no place name. I did send away awhile go to the Lichfield Record Office for probate results for utler 1585-1635 there is no Henry Butler for that date . Thank you again Jeff ------------------------------ ist archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message
What do the letters vacat. stand for after a person name when looking for a will. I am looking at Lichfield Wills and Administration 1629 but after the person name it has vacat Thank you Jeff