Thanks to Nivard and Gus for their prompt responses.  The details I have are from a family member that is now deceased.  James Brunty died 22 May 1772, his wife Jane Buckley died 18 May 1768 both in Birmingham.  It says they were wed in 1741 in Cheshire, England.  How can I confirm this and move ahead to find their parents?   Regards, Uncle Jim ________________________________ From: Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> To: warwick@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 5:09 AM Subject: Re: [WAR] Warwickshire Death Record of 1772 Hi UJ Deaths were not recorded officially until 1837, before that it would be the burial in the vast majority of cases The burial will probably be recorded in the parish registers but at that time is highly unlikely to give more than the index The date and name will be recorded There may be Age Abode Relationship (ie the wife of XXXX) Details can vary depending upon the Clerk / Vicar so its generally worth checking Why not post the details to see if anyone can help you Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 13/01/2013 03:04, Jim Andrews wrote: > > As a Newbie, my question is: Are there death records from Birmingham > from 1772 available? I have an index of a death but would like to know > if more info might be available.  If a death record exists would it > contain spousal and or parental info? Finally, where would such records > be held?  Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > UJ ------------------------------- List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Maureen, Just found it myself and Jane's marriage in 1865 to John Taylor. Not sure whether Effie Margaret is his child though.I can't find a birth for her at all. FMP is good when all else fails Still can't find the birth of her son William Fairlie Fergusson c 1872 but I imagine there is no doubt of his paternity This is them in them 1871 census 1871 Census Cookham Berkshire Bray . The Willows Windsor Road William Fairlie ( Fashie) Fergusson head aged 33 half pay India Service ,brewer's pupil born East Indies Calcutta Alexander Topp 24, cousin, banker's clerk born Scotland Robert Priddham visitor 15 scholar brn Sahant Maidstone Effie Margaret Taylor 1 born Middlesex Kensington Jane Taylor marr 34 housekeeper born Worcestershire Fladbury Susan Boam 25 general servant domestic Middlesex Poplar James Batty 18 '' " " Buck Monk Really pleased to find that though many thanks for your help Cheers Marilyn At 09:19 PM 12/01/2013, you wrote: >Hi Marilyn > >I've found your family on the 1871 census, William is transcribed as William >Pashie Perguson he has a housekeeper Jane Taylor, born in Stadlery, Worcs, I >assume this is Fladbury. Jane has a daughter Essie Margaret Taylor aged 1. >If you would like I can send the image. > >HTH > >Maureen > >------------------------------- >List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Again Mike, looks Like I might have a break through with William Fairlie Fergusson in the 1871 census I was hoping he was with Jane but he appears at Cookham Berkshire, Bray, at The Willows Windsor Road as William Fashie Fergusson brn East Indies Calcutta aged 33 ( in bracketts Half pay India Service ) which fits and he is a brewer pupil. He is with a cousin Alexander Topp 24 banker's clerk born Scotland. Its beginning to look like the children weren't his or at Effie Margaret wasn't his. Now to find Jane Trenfield born 1836 Fladbury Wor with Effie Margaret c 1869 Roll of Drums!!!! There is a Effie Margaret Taylor visitor 1 and Jane Taylor mar housekeeper 34 born Wor Fladbury So now to find out if Jane was really married. Looks like William Fairlie Jnr might be under Taylor I used Findmypast which seems to come up trumps when all else fails Cheers Marilyn Hi Mike, Bleak sounds good with 30 degrees at 8.00pm I only know their approx ages from the Tasmanian records. Effie Margaret Fergusson died 1952 in her 83 year. Kids may have got it wrong of course In the Mercury Newspaper it describes William Fairlie Fergusson in 1952 as being 80 years. I think he died around 1964 but the newspapers only go to 1952 This is what I have on William Fairlie Fergusson senior who married Jane Trenfield. This is Jane in the 1861 census 1861 Census Marylebone London 27 Gloucester Crescent North Paddington Anne King widow 65 fund holder Jane Trenfield 25 servant born Worcester This is William Fairlie Frgusson 1841 Census New Windsor Berkshire Park St Wm Fergusson 68 Physician born Scotland Harriet Fergusson 60 Wm Fergusson 38 Marion Fergusson 25 Jane Fergusson 22 Anna Maria Fergusson 21 John Fergusson 6 William Fergusson 4 born Calcutta James Fergusson 32 Scotland Harriett Fergusson 12 Calcutta 1851 Census Scholar of Rugby School Warwickshire School at Rugby William F. Fergusson 13 pupil at school born c 1838 India William Fergusson Campaign or Service: India - NW Frontier Service Date: 1849-1863 Service Location: India Regiment or Unit Name: 80th Regiment of Foot Regimental Number: 3238 His Obit CAPTAIN WILLIAM FAIRLIE FERGUSSON. . On Tuesday there passed away from among us, in the person of' Capt. Fergusson. one whom only an unkind fate precluded from fulfilling the promise of his early and gallant career. Born at Fort William, Calcutta, in 1837,he received his education at the great public school whose "playing fields are proverbially associated with battles won, his maternal uncle, the Rev. John Moultrie, having been at the time Rector of Rugby. In January, 1857, he obtained a commission as cornet in the honourable East India Company's service, getting his lieutenancy and captaincy in the Bengal Cavalry in the years 1858 and 1859 respectively. Thus, although his military career was all too soon cut short, he was a survivor of those fateful years known to history as the period of the mutiny of the Bengal Army, and so he was one of the few names left on the roll of the mutiny veterans in this Commonwealth. From his service record it appears that he served in General Havelock's Volunteer Cavalry from July, 1857, till that officer's death. He served also with a detached squadron of the 5th Punjaub Cavalry at the siege and capture of Lucknow (Lucknow medal and two clasps); commanded the squadron at the battle and capture ' of Bareilly, for which he received the thanks of the Commander-in-Chief in orders of 8th May, 1858. While on furlough in England a few years subsequently, and on the eve of return to duty in India, he was, while actually on a journey to say good-bye to an uncle of his own name, so seriously injured in a railway accident that, two years later, he was obliged to be retired on half-pay. The uncle abovenamed was the learned and accomplished historian of ancient architecture, James Fergusson, F.R.S., D.C.L. (Oxon.). whose "Rock-cut Temples of India" made his fame in 1843, being followed bv "The Handbook of Architecture" (1855), which is still a text-book. Though an Anglo-Indian by birth and career, whose father made a distinguished name for himself in Calcutta, having also had a brother on the Bench there, and a cousin. Sir James Fergusson Governor of the Presidency of Bombay, yet Captain Fergusson came from a well known Ayrshire family and the bonnie Scotland of his boyhood's days had ever a warm place in his memory. Captain Fergusson made Tasmania his home in 1881, and in 1890 and 1891 was a captain in the auxiliary forces, commanding the Portland Rifle Company. Upright, generous to a fault, ever showing a brave and cheerful front, though latterly a very great sufferer, he has fought a good fight. No mention of his wife or children drat! This is his son William Fairlie Fergusson "The Mercury" Hobart 25 Feb 1952 Won Race For Veterans Eighty-year-old W. F. Fergusson, who sailed Fanita to victory in the race for veteran yachtsmen at Bellerive yesterday. The event was sailed in boats of the Bellerive Yacht Club's Fergusson class, which was named after the winning skipper. There is also a grandson called William Fairlie Fergusson who received a medal during WW2 He was in the UK Navy Lists under Royal Australian Naval Volunteer Reserves So far that is all I know as I couldn't find them either births. I wonder if they were in India? By 1878 their son James Andrew Fergusson was born in Queensland and died there same year Many thanks for looking Cheers Marilyn At 07:41 PM 12/01/2013, you wrote: >Hi Marilyn > >Do you have the birth details for both of the children mentioned as I >can't find their births under either surname on FreeBMD > >Mike i a bleak Droitwich > > >On 12/01/2013 07:25, Watson Family wrote: > > Hi, > > I realise Fladbury is in Worcester but wondered if SKS can find her in > > the 1871 census. She was in London in the 1861 census and married William > > Fairlie Fergusson in 1875. I have not been able to find him either. It > > appears they had two children before they were married Effie Margargaret > > born c 1869 and William Fairlie Fergusson c 1872 but so far no sign of any > > of them. I know in 1878 they were in Queensland and then in Tasmania in > > 1881 so have their details all after that >------------------------------- >List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mike, Bleak sounds good with 30 degrees at 8.00pm I only know their approx ages from the Tasmanian records. Effie Margaret Fergusson died 1952 in her 83 year. Kids may have got it wrong of course In the Mercury Newspaper it describes William Fairlie Fergusson in 1952 as being 80 years. I think he died around 1964 but the newspapers only go to 1952 This is what I have on William Fairlie Fergusson senior who married Jane Trenfield. This is Jane in the 1861 census 1861 Census Marylebone London 27 Gloucester Crescent North Paddington Anne King widow 65 fund holder Jane Trenfield 25 servant born Worcester This is William Fairlie Frgusson 1841 Census New Windsor Berkshire Park St Wm Fergusson 68 Physician born Scotland Harriet Fergusson 60 Wm Fergusson 38 Marion Fergusson 25 Jane Fergusson 22 Anna Maria Fergusson 21 John Fergusson 6 William Fergusson 4 born Calcutta James Fergusson 32 Scotland Harriett Fergusson 12 Calcutta 1851 Census Scholar of Rugby School Warwickshire School at Rugby William F. Fergusson 13 pupil at school born c 1838 India William Fergusson Campaign or Service: India - NW Frontier Service Date: 1849-1863 Service Location: India Regiment or Unit Name: 80th Regiment of Foot Regimental Number: 3238 His Obit CAPTAIN WILLIAM FAIRLIE FERGUSSON. . On Tuesday there passed away from among us, in the person of' Capt. Fergusson. one whom only an unkind fate precluded from fulfilling the promise of his early and gallant career. Born at Fort William, Calcutta, in 1837,he received his education at the great public school whose "playing fields are proverbially associated with battles won, his maternal uncle, the Rev. John Moultrie, having been at the time Rector of Rugby. In January, 1857, he obtained a commission as cornet in the honourable East India Company's service, getting his lieutenancy and captaincy in the Bengal Cavalry in the years 1858 and 1859 respectively. Thus, although his military career was all too soon cut short, he was a survivor of those fateful years known to history as the period of the mutiny of the Bengal Army, and so he was one of the few names left on the roll of the mutiny veterans in this Commonwealth. From his service record it appears that he served in General Havelock's Volunteer Cavalry from July, 1857, till that officer's death. He served also with a detached squadron of the 5th Punjaub Cavalry at the siege and capture of Lucknow (Lucknow medal and two clasps); commanded the squadron at the battle and capture ' of Bareilly, for which he received the thanks of the Commander-in-Chief in orders of 8th May, 1858. While on furlough in England a few years subsequently, and on the eve of return to duty in India, he was, while actually on a journey to say good-bye to an uncle of his own name, so seriously injured in a railway accident that, two years later, he was obliged to be retired on half-pay. The uncle abovenamed was the learned and accomplished historian of ancient architecture, James Fergusson, F.R.S., D.C.L. (Oxon.). whose "Rock-cut Temples of India" made his fame in 1843, being followed bv "The Handbook of Architecture" (1855), which is still a text-book. Though an Anglo-Indian by birth and career, whose father made a distinguished name for himself in Calcutta, having also had a brother on the Bench there, and a cousin. Sir James Fergusson Governor of the Presidency of Bombay, yet Captain Fergusson came from a well known Ayrshire family and the bonnie Scotland of his boyhood's days had ever a warm place in his memory. Captain Fergusson made Tasmania his home in 1881, and in 1890 and 1891 was a captain in the auxiliary forces, commanding the Portland Rifle Company. Upright, generous to a fault, ever showing a brave and cheerful front, though latterly a very great sufferer, he has fought a good fight. No mention of his wife or children drat! This is his son William Fairlie Fergusson "The Mercury" Hobart 25 Feb 1952 Won Race For Veterans Eighty-year-old W. F. Fergusson, who sailed Fanita to victory in the race for veteran yachtsmen at Bellerive yesterday. The event was sailed in boats of the Bellerive Yacht Club's Fergusson class, which was named after the winning skipper. There is also a grandson called William Fairlie Fergusson who received a medal during WW2 He was in the UK Navy Lists under Royal Australian Naval Volunteer Reserves So far that is all I know as I couldn't find them either births. I wonder if they were in India? By 1878 their son James Andrew Fergusson was born in Queensland and died there same year Many thanks for looking Cheers Marilyn At 07:41 PM 12/01/2013, you wrote: >Hi Marilyn > >Do you have the birth details for both of the children mentioned as I >can't find their births under either surname on FreeBMD > >Mike i a bleak Droitwich > > >On 12/01/2013 07:25, Watson Family wrote: > > Hi, > > I realise Fladbury is in Worcester but wondered if SKS can find her in > > the 1871 census. She was in London in the 1861 census and married William > > Fairlie Fergusson in 1875. I have not been able to find him either. It > > appears they had two children before they were married Effie Margargaret > > born c 1869 and William Fairlie Fergusson c 1872 but so far no sign of any > > of them. I know in 1878 they were in Queensland and then in Tasmania in > > 1881 so have their details all after that >------------------------------- >List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As a Newbie, my question is: Are there death records from Birmingham from 1772 available? I have an index of a death but would like to know if more info might be available. If a death record exists would it contain spousal and or parental info? Finally, where would such records be held? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, UJ

Oops forgot to say the William Fairlie Fergusson was born in Calcutta India Hi, I realise Fladbury is in Worcester but wondered if SKS can find her in the 1871 census. She was in London in the 1861 census and married William Fairlie Fergusson in 1875. I have not been able to find him either. It appears they had two children before they were married Effie Margargaret born c 1869 and William Fairlie Fergusson c 1872 but so far no sign of any of them. I know in 1878 they were in Queensland and then in Tasmania in 1881 so have their details all after that I did find this in the London Gazette "The London Gazette" 20th February 1874 Bankruptcy Act of 1869 In the County Court of Berkshire holden at Windsor on the 22nd Day of January 1874 In the matter of a bankruptcy petition prsented by William Fairlie Fergusson of Milton Ernest near Bedford, brewer against George Dunn of Peascod St Windsor in the County Of Berk,Dealer in Pictures and Picture Frame Maker adjudicated a bankrupt on 1st November 1873 Upon hearing Mr Spiller, the solicitor for the bankrupt and Mr Gray the solicitor for the petitioning creditor, and with the consent of the parties, it is ordered that this petition be dismissed without costs; and it is further ordered that the petitioner pay the said George Dunn the costs occasioned by reason of the notice of the appeal given by the petitioning creditor and incurred by the bankrupt subsequent to the 18th day of December 1873, the date of notice of appeal, such costs to be taxed by the Registrar in case the parties differ By the Court Henry Davill Registrar I can't imagine there were many William Fairlie Fergusson around he was a Capt in the Bengal Calvalry but an accident in petioned him off Any suggestions welcome Cheers Marilyn from Western Australia

Hi, I realise Fladbury is in Worcester but wondered if SKS can find her in the 1871 census. She was in London in the 1861 census and married William Fairlie Fergusson in 1875. I have not been able to find him either. It appears they had two children before they were married Effie Margargaret born c 1869 and William Fairlie Fergusson c 1872 but so far no sign of any of them. I know in 1878 they were in Queensland and then in Tasmania in 1881 so have their details all after that I did find this in the London Gazette "The London Gazette" 20th February 1874 Bankruptcy Act of 1869 In the County Court of Berkshire holden at Windsor on the 22nd Day of January 1874 In the matter of a bankruptcy petition prsented by William Fairlie Fergusson of Milton Ernest near Bedford, brewer against George Dunn of Peascod St Windsor in the County Of Berk,Dealer in Pictures and Picture Frame Maker adjudicated a bankrupt on 1st November 1873 Upon hearing Mr Spiller, the solicitor for the bankrupt and Mr Gray the solicitor for the petitioning creditor, and with the consent of the parties, it is ordered that this petition be dismissed without costs; and it is further ordered that the petitioner pay the said George Dunn the costs occasioned by reason of the notice of the appeal given by the petitioning creditor and incurred by the bankrupt subsequent to the 18th day of December 1873, the date of notice of appeal, such costs to be taxed by the Registrar in case the parties differ By the Court Henry Davill Registrar I can't imagine there were many William Fairlie Fergusson around he was a Capt in the Bengal Calvalry but an accident in petioned him off Any suggestions welcome Cheers Marilyn from Western Australia

Hi Marilyn You will find the details of both Jane's marriages on FMP. Best wishes Maureen -----Original Message----- From: warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Watson Family Sent: 12 January 2013 14:04 To: warwick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WAR] re Jane Trenfield born Fladbury in 1836 and William Fairlie Fergusson born 1837 Hi Maureen, Just found it myself and Jane's marriage in 1865 to John Taylor. Not sure whether Effie Margaret is his child though.I can't find a birth for her at all. FMP is good when all else fails Still can't find the birth of her son William Fairlie Fergusson c 1872 but I imagine there is no doubt of his paternity This is them in them 1871 census 1871 Census Cookham Berkshire Bray . The Willows Windsor Road William Fairlie ( Fashie) Fergusson head aged 33 half pay India Service ,brewer's pupil born East Indies Calcutta Alexander Topp 24, cousin, banker's clerk born Scotland Robert Priddham visitor 15 scholar brn Sahant Maidstone Effie Margaret Taylor 1 born Middlesex Kensington Jane Taylor marr 34 housekeeper born Worcestershire Fladbury Susan Boam 25 general servant domestic Middlesex Poplar James Batty 18 '' " " Buck Monk Really pleased to find that though many thanks for your help Cheers Marilyn At 09:19 PM 12/01/2013, you wrote: >Hi Marilyn > >I've found your family on the 1871 census, William is transcribed as >William Pashie Perguson he has a housekeeper Jane Taylor, born in >Stadlery, Worcs, I assume this is Fladbury. Jane has a daughter Essie Margaret Taylor aged 1. >If you would like I can send the image. > >HTH > >Maureen > >------------------------------- >List archives are at >http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi again Marilyn There is a marriage on FreeBMD for Jane Trenfield to John Taylor in Westminster Registration District in 1865. Regards Maureen -----Original Message----- From: warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Maureen Eden Sent: 12 January 2013 13:19 To: warwick@rootsweb.com; mjflists@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [WAR] re Jane Trenfield born Fladbury in 1836 and William Fairlie Fergusson born 1837 Hi Marilyn I've found your family on the 1871 census, William is transcribed as William Pashie Perguson he has a housekeeper Jane Taylor, born in Stadlery, Worcs, I assume this is Fladbury. Jane has a daughter Essie Margaret Taylor aged 1. If you would like I can send the image. HTH Maureen ------------------------------- List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Marilyn I've found your family on the 1871 census, William is transcribed as William Pashie Perguson he has a housekeeper Jane Taylor, born in Stadlery, Worcs, I assume this is Fladbury. Jane has a daughter Essie Margaret Taylor aged 1. If you would like I can send the image. HTH Maureen

Hi Marilyn Do you have the birth details for both of the children mentioned as I can't find their births under either surname on FreeBMD Mike i a bleak Droitwich On 12/01/2013 07:25, Watson Family wrote: > Hi, > I realise Fladbury is in Worcester but wondered if SKS can find her in > the 1871 census. She was in London in the 1861 census and married William > Fairlie Fergusson in 1875. I have not been able to find him either. It > appears they had two children before they were married Effie Margargaret > born c 1869 and William Fairlie Fergusson c 1872 but so far no sign of any > of them. I know in 1878 they were in Queensland and then in Tasmania in > 1881 so have their details all after that

Thanks Janet The Warwick marriage certainly looks interesting but of course there's no instant proof that is the link I'm looking for I agree that the "Mary Wagstaff" link is incorrect - I had seen that before and discounted it I will follow up the other suggestions you make Again, thanks for the response, much appreciated Rgds Cliff On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 8:01 AM, <warwick-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 10:56:36 -0000 > From: "Janet Booth" <janet@boothworld.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [WAR] William Lines, Coventry > To: <WARWICK@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <65B6B1AB95AD490285DA2ADB30CB200C@JanetHP> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hello Cliff, > > According to his marriage record to Mary ASTON via Ancestry's Warwickshire > Parish Register Images, one of the witnesses at the marriage was a James > LINES - perhaps a brother? Looking for other LINES marriages at Coventry, > there is one on 20 February 1827 at Coventry Holy Trinity of a James LANE & > Catherine LINES where one of the witnesses was a Sarah LINES - possibly a > sister? William LINES' burial record shows that he was aged 71 when he > died > at Spon Street and was buried at Coventry St Michael which gives him an > approximate birth date of 1772. > > Could this be a candidate for William's first marriage: > > 24 August 1800 at Warwick St Mary William LINES, bachelor & Catherine > CARR, spinster, both of the parish by banns > > Children to this couple appear to be: > > 10 Oct 1801 William LINES son of William & Catherine > 26 Aug 1803 Ann LINES daughter of William & Catherine > 28 Oct 1805 Catherine LINES daughter of William & Catherine > 24 Feb 1808 Sarah LINES daughter of William & Catherine > 16 Apr 1810 James LYNES son of William & Catherine > > All baptised at Coventry St John the Baptist. No other children after 1810 > to this couple that I can find so far. I cannot find a burial for > Catherine > but the burial records for Coventry St John are pretty difficult to read > between 1810 and 1812 so Catherine may well have died during that time. > William himself appears on the Electoral Registers for Coventry at Spon End > between 1832 and 1837. > > There is a Family Tree on Ancestry which shows William's parents to be > Thomas LINES (LYNES) and Mary WAGSTAFF who married at Coventry Holy Trinity > on 31 October 1779 but this does not fit in with his age on the 1841 census > nor his age at death as the baptism of this William is not until 1788. > > There is a death registration on the GRO Index of a Mary LYNES in the June > qtr 1859 at Coventry reg district who could perhaps be your Mary. Have you > thought to look for a will for your William? Given that he was a > Shopkeeper > he may well have left a will which could give you valuable clues in your > quest to find his parents. > > A2A website have quite a few records relating to William LINES/LYNES of > Coventry and you may pick up something of interest if you look through > them. > Looking for any records to do with James LINES, A2A has a couple of > mentions, one being that of a copy will of James LINES of Coventry Coal > Dealer dated 1824 and a copy will dated 1831 of his brother Richard, a > Victualler of Warwick both held at Warwickshire Record Office - perhaps > worth further investigation. > > Hope this gives you a few other avenues to explore. > > Janet > > > William Lines married Mary Aston (Arston) at St John the Baptist, Coventry > on 13 Oct 1812 - he was shown to be a widower > > They appear in the 1841 Census at Spon End > William 65ish Shopkeeper b Warks > Mary 55ish b Warks > > William died on 30 Sep 1843 and was buried on 4 Oct 1843 > > The 1851 Census for Spon End shows Mary 70 wid Grocer b Berkswell > > I have located five children from their marriage > > Disappointingly, I cannot trace William prior to this marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Thank you to all those that responded to my query both on list and off. I can now plan my visit around the open hours of the Watch Museum and the Weavers House. Jenny -----Original Message----- From: warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of warwick-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 09 January 2013 08:01 To: warwick@rootsweb.com Subject: WARWICK Digest, Vol 8, Issue 7 Today's Topics: 1. Spon End , Coventry (Jenny) 2. Re: Spon End , Coventry (Carole Eales) 3. Re: Spon End , Coventry (Peter) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 18:35:45 -0000 From: "Jenny" <jenny@leacroft.demon.co.uk> Subject: [WAR] Spon End , Coventry To: <warwick@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <83F355D09C404999925EC78EDD008C79@dick5d9f06f1e6> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Is there a small museum around the area of Spon End in Coventry? If so what is it called or does anybody have a contact/ information about it. Or am I getting my facts completely muddled! Thanks, Jenny ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 21:57:49 -0000 From: "Carole Eales" <carole.eales@talktalk.net> Subject: Re: [WAR] Spon End , Coventry To: <warwick@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <NDENLMAGAOHGCFEEMHLEMEPCGCAA.carole.eales@talktalk.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Jenny If you 'google' Spon End Coventry there are several articles about the area. Some of the medieval houses were removed from other areas of the City and located in Spon End... it's several years since I was there, but I seem to remember there was a small museum. Perhaps someone locally could be more definite. Best wishes Carole Message: 3 Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 07:00:30 -0000 From: "Peter" <peterj.martin@lineone.net> Subject: Re: [WAR] Spon End , Coventry To: <warwick@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <001c01cdee37$036c65e0$0a4531a0$@martin@lineone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Jenny, There is certainly a watch museum behind the Shakespeare pub on Spon Street. Regards Peter

Jenny, There is certainly a watch museum behind the Shakespeare pub on Spon Street. Regards Peter Is there a small museum around the area of Spon End in Coventry? If so what is it called or does anybody have a contact/ information about it. Or am I getting my facts completely muddled! Thanks, Jenny

Hi Jenny If you 'google' Spon End Coventry there are several articles about the area. Some of the medieval houses were removed from other areas of the City and located in Spon End... it's several years since I was there, but I seem to remember there was a small museum. Perhaps someone locally could be more definite. Best wishes Carole -----Original Message----- From: warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Jenny Sent: 08 January 2013 18:36 To: warwick@rootsweb.com Subject: [WAR] Spon End , Coventry Is there a small museum around the area of Spon End in Coventry? If so what is it called or does anybody have a contact/ information about it. Or am I getting my facts completely muddled! Thanks, Jenny -----Original Message----- From: warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of warwick-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 08 January 2013 08:01 To: warwick@rootsweb.com Subject: WARWICK Digest, Vol 8, Issue 6 Today's Topics: 1. Re: William Lines, Coventry (Janet Booth) 2. Re: FRENCH in Napton and Stretton on Dunsmore and MarriageBonds, (Velda Hampton) 3. Re: FRENCH in Napton and Stretton on Dunsmore and Marriage Bonds, (Marilyn Ponting) 4. Re: FRENCH in Napton and Stretton on Dunsmore and MarriageBonds, (Marilyn Ponting) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 10:56:36 -0000 From: "Janet Booth" <janet@boothworld.co.uk> Subject: Re: [WAR] William Lines, Coventry To: <WARWICK@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <65B6B1AB95AD490285DA2ADB30CB200C@JanetHP> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hello Cliff, According to his marriage record to Mary ASTON via Ancestry's Warwickshire Parish Register Images, one of the witnesses at the marriage was a James LINES - perhaps a brother? Looking for other LINES marriages at Coventry, there is one on 20 February 1827 at Coventry Holy Trinity of a James LANE & Catherine LINES where one of the witnesses was a Sarah LINES - possibly a sister? William LINES' burial record shows that he was aged 71 when he died at Spon Street and was buried at Coventry St Michael which gives him an approximate birth date of 1772. Could this be a candidate for William's first marriage: 24 August 1800 at Warwick St Mary William LINES, bachelor & Catherine CARR, spinster, both of the parish by banns Children to this couple appear to be: 10 Oct 1801 William LINES son of William & Catherine 26 Aug 1803 Ann LINES daughter of William & Catherine 28 Oct 1805 Catherine LINES daughter of William & Catherine 24 Feb 1808 Sarah LINES daughter of William & Catherine 16 Apr 1810 James LYNES son of William & Catherine All baptised at Coventry St John the Baptist. No other children after 1810 to this couple that I can find so far. I cannot find a burial for Catherine but the burial records for Coventry St John are pretty difficult to read between 1810 and 1812 so Catherine may well have died during that time. William himself appears on the Electoral Registers for Coventry at Spon End between 1832 and 1837. There is a Family Tree on Ancestry which shows William's parents to be Thomas LINES (LYNES) and Mary WAGSTAFF who married at Coventry Holy Trinity on 31 October 1779 but this does not fit in with his age on the 1841 census nor his age at death as the baptism of this William is not until 1788. There is a death registration on the GRO Index of a Mary LYNES in the June qtr 1859 at Coventry reg district who could perhaps be your Mary. Have you thought to look for a will for your William? Given that he was a Shopkeeper he may well have left a will which could give you valuable clues in your quest to find his parents. A2A website have quite a few records relating to William LINES/LYNES of Coventry and you may pick up something of interest if you look through them. Looking for any records to do with James LINES, A2A has a couple of mentions, one being that of a copy will of James LINES of Coventry Coal Dealer dated 1824 and a copy will dated 1831 of his brother Richard, a Victualler of Warwick both held at Warwickshire Record Office - perhaps worth further investigation. Hope this gives you a few other avenues to explore. Janet William Lines married Mary Aston (Arston) at St John the Baptist, Coventry on 13 Oct 1812 - he was shown to be a widower They appear in the 1841 Census at Spon End William 65ish Shopkeeper b Warks Mary 55ish b Warks William died on 30 Sep 1843 and was buried on 4 Oct 1843 The 1851 Census for Spon End shows Mary 70 wid Grocer b Berkswell I have located five children from their marriage Disappointingly, I cannot trace William prior to this marriage ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 16:50:04 -0000 From: "Velda Hampton" <velda@blueyonder.co.uk> Subject: Re: [WAR] FRENCH in Napton and Stretton on Dunsmore and MarriageBonds, To: <warwick@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <4E259C8874A44F3BA503274CB74B93E8@packardbellPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Marilyn I have Ann FRENCH daughter of Thomas (in my husband's tree). She was born in Napton c 1825 and married Clement FELL in 1844 in Napton. Does this have any connection with your research? Velda ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 09:29:46 -0800 From: Marilyn Ponting <lookups@dccnet.com> Subject: Re: [WAR] FRENCH in Napton and Stretton on Dunsmore and Marriage Bonds, To: warwick@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <6A73F11428B84D5A9DA46379268CE4AF@user83f81c7370> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks Celia, Will give it a try Marilyn http://www.familyhistorynorthants.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Celia Renshaw > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 2:22 PM > To: warwick@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WAR] FRENCH in Napton and Stretton on Dunsmore > and Marriage Bonds, > > > Hi Marilyn, it's good to see you again. > > BTs for Napton on the Hill are held at Lichfield RO for 1662 > to 1837 for marriages and to 1847 for baps/burials, so I > would judge there's a good chance a 1784 marriage bond will > be held there. The staff are brill but will probably charge > you to do the lookup or a photocopy. Let me know if you need > help getting info or a copy. Sadly FRENCH is not one of the > names I'm chasing in Warwicks. > > Regards, Celia Renshaw > in Chesterfield UK > > > On 6 January 2013 21:20, Marilyn Ponting <lookups@dccnet.com> wrote: > > Robert SPENCER of Hellidon, Northamptonshire and Alice FRENCH of > > Napton married 1784 31-Aug at Napton on the Hill by Licence > > > > The marriage bond is not at the Northamptonshire Record > Office, where > > they have a large collection. > > > > If Robert applied for the licence in Warwickshire where > would the bond > > be held (supposing that it survives) Google tells me it would be > > Worcester or Litchfield - which is most likely? > > > > There is a baptism for an Alice FRENCH 5th July 1757 in Stretton on > > Dunsmore daughter of George and Mary. This fits fairly well > with her > > age at death - 78 - buried 26th Oct 1837 in Weedon Bec, Northants. > > > > Is anyone researching the FRENCH family in this area? > > > > Marilyn Ponting > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 09:43:15 -0800 From: Marilyn Ponting <lookups@dccnet.com> Subject: Re: [WAR] FRENCH in Napton and Stretton on Dunsmore and MarriageBonds, To: warwick@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <1E2604D89DE44012B4592E41725E8EC8@user83f81c7370> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I don't know Velda I haven't researched the family of George and Mary forward This what I know about them Geo FRENCH of Napton married Mary SYMMONDS of Wolfhamcote 12th May 1746 at Ladbroke They seem to be the parents of Mary bapt 31 Mar 1747 at Grandborough Eliz bapt 17 May 1753 at Stretton on Dunsmore Robert bapt 2 Feb 1755 at Stretton on Dunsmore Alice bapt 5 Jul 1757 at Stretton on Dunsmore Alice may be the one who married Robert SPENCER at Napton, I am hoping she is - I don't have another candidate! Marilyn http://www.familyhistorynorthants.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Velda Hampton > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 8:50 AM > To: warwick@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WAR] FRENCH in Napton and Stretton on Dunsmore > and MarriageBonds, > > > Hi Marilyn > I have Ann FRENCH daughter of Thomas (in my husband's tree). > She was born in > Napton c 1825 and married Clement FELL in 1844 in Napton. > Does this have any > connection with your research? > > Velda > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > List archives are at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2637/5514 - Release > Date: 01/06/13 > ------------------------------ To contact the WARWICK list administrator, send an email to WARWICK-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Is there a small museum around the area of Spon End in Coventry? If so what is it called or does anybody have a contact/ information about it. Or am I getting my facts completely muddled! Thanks, Jenny -----Original Message----- From: warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of warwick-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 08 January 2013 08:01 To: warwick@rootsweb.com Subject: WARWICK Digest, Vol 8, Issue 6 Today's Topics: 1. Re: William Lines, Coventry (Janet Booth) 2. Re: FRENCH in Napton and Stretton on Dunsmore and MarriageBonds, (Velda Hampton) 3. Re: FRENCH in Napton and Stretton on Dunsmore and Marriage Bonds, (Marilyn Ponting) 4. Re: FRENCH in Napton and Stretton on Dunsmore and MarriageBonds, (Marilyn Ponting) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 10:56:36 -0000 From: "Janet Booth" <janet@boothworld.co.uk> Subject: Re: [WAR] William Lines, Coventry To: <WARWICK@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <65B6B1AB95AD490285DA2ADB30CB200C@JanetHP> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hello Cliff, According to his marriage record to Mary ASTON via Ancestry's Warwickshire Parish Register Images, one of the witnesses at the marriage was a James LINES - perhaps a brother? Looking for other LINES marriages at Coventry, there is one on 20 February 1827 at Coventry Holy Trinity of a James LANE & Catherine LINES where one of the witnesses was a Sarah LINES - possibly a sister? William LINES' burial record shows that he was aged 71 when he died at Spon Street and was buried at Coventry St Michael which gives him an approximate birth date of 1772. Could this be a candidate for William's first marriage: 24 August 1800 at Warwick St Mary William LINES, bachelor & Catherine CARR, spinster, both of the parish by banns Children to this couple appear to be: 10 Oct 1801 William LINES son of William & Catherine 26 Aug 1803 Ann LINES daughter of William & Catherine 28 Oct 1805 Catherine LINES daughter of William & Catherine 24 Feb 1808 Sarah LINES daughter of William & Catherine 16 Apr 1810 James LYNES son of William & Catherine All baptised at Coventry St John the Baptist. No other children after 1810 to this couple that I can find so far. I cannot find a burial for Catherine but the burial records for Coventry St John are pretty difficult to read between 1810 and 1812 so Catherine may well have died during that time. William himself appears on the Electoral Registers for Coventry at Spon End between 1832 and 1837. There is a Family Tree on Ancestry which shows William's parents to be Thomas LINES (LYNES) and Mary WAGSTAFF who married at Coventry Holy Trinity on 31 October 1779 but this does not fit in with his age on the 1841 census nor his age at death as the baptism of this William is not until 1788. There is a death registration on the GRO Index of a Mary LYNES in the June qtr 1859 at Coventry reg district who could perhaps be your Mary. Have you thought to look for a will for your William? Given that he was a Shopkeeper he may well have left a will which could give you valuable clues in your quest to find his parents. A2A website have quite a few records relating to William LINES/LYNES of Coventry and you may pick up something of interest if you look through them. Looking for any records to do with James LINES, A2A has a couple of mentions, one being that of a copy will of James LINES of Coventry Coal Dealer dated 1824 and a copy will dated 1831 of his brother Richard, a Victualler of Warwick both held at Warwickshire Record Office - perhaps worth further investigation. Hope this gives you a few other avenues to explore. Janet William Lines married Mary Aston (Arston) at St John the Baptist, Coventry on 13 Oct 1812 - he was shown to be a widower They appear in the 1841 Census at Spon End William 65ish Shopkeeper b Warks Mary 55ish b Warks William died on 30 Sep 1843 and was buried on 4 Oct 1843 The 1851 Census for Spon End shows Mary 70 wid Grocer b Berkswell I have located five children from their marriage Disappointingly, I cannot trace William prior to this marriage ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 16:50:04 -0000 From: "Velda Hampton" <velda@blueyonder.co.uk> Subject: Re: [WAR] FRENCH in Napton and Stretton on Dunsmore and MarriageBonds, To: <warwick@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <4E259C8874A44F3BA503274CB74B93E8@packardbellPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Marilyn I have Ann FRENCH daughter of Thomas (in my husband's tree). She was born in Napton c 1825 and married Clement FELL in 1844 in Napton. Does this have any connection with your research? Velda ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 09:29:46 -0800 From: Marilyn Ponting <lookups@dccnet.com> Subject: Re: [WAR] FRENCH in Napton and Stretton on Dunsmore and Marriage Bonds, To: warwick@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <6A73F11428B84D5A9DA46379268CE4AF@user83f81c7370> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks Celia, Will give it a try Marilyn http://www.familyhistorynorthants.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Celia Renshaw > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 2:22 PM > To: warwick@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WAR] FRENCH in Napton and Stretton on Dunsmore > and Marriage Bonds, > > > Hi Marilyn, it's good to see you again. > > BTs for Napton on the Hill are held at Lichfield RO for 1662 > to 1837 for marriages and to 1847 for baps/burials, so I > would judge there's a good chance a 1784 marriage bond will > be held there. The staff are brill but will probably charge > you to do the lookup or a photocopy. Let me know if you need > help getting info or a copy. Sadly FRENCH is not one of the > names I'm chasing in Warwicks. > > Regards, Celia Renshaw > in Chesterfield UK > > > On 6 January 2013 21:20, Marilyn Ponting <lookups@dccnet.com> wrote: > > Robert SPENCER of Hellidon, Northamptonshire and Alice FRENCH of > > Napton married 1784 31-Aug at Napton on the Hill by Licence > > > > The marriage bond is not at the Northamptonshire Record > Office, where > > they have a large collection. > > > > If Robert applied for the licence in Warwickshire where > would the bond > > be held (supposing that it survives) Google tells me it would be > > Worcester or Litchfield - which is most likely? > > > > There is a baptism for an Alice FRENCH 5th July 1757 in Stretton on > > Dunsmore daughter of George and Mary. This fits fairly well > with her > > age at death - 78 - buried 26th Oct 1837 in Weedon Bec, Northants. > > > > Is anyone researching the FRENCH family in this area? > > > > Marilyn Ponting > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 09:43:15 -0800 From: Marilyn Ponting <lookups@dccnet.com> Subject: Re: [WAR] FRENCH in Napton and Stretton on Dunsmore and MarriageBonds, To: warwick@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <1E2604D89DE44012B4592E41725E8EC8@user83f81c7370> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I don't know Velda I haven't researched the family of George and Mary forward This what I know about them Geo FRENCH of Napton married Mary SYMMONDS of Wolfhamcote 12th May 1746 at Ladbroke They seem to be the parents of Mary bapt 31 Mar 1747 at Grandborough Eliz bapt 17 May 1753 at Stretton on Dunsmore Robert bapt 2 Feb 1755 at Stretton on Dunsmore Alice bapt 5 Jul 1757 at Stretton on Dunsmore Alice may be the one who married Robert SPENCER at Napton, I am hoping she is - I don't have another candidate! Marilyn http://www.familyhistorynorthants.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Velda Hampton > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 8:50 AM > To: warwick@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WAR] FRENCH in Napton and Stretton on Dunsmore > and MarriageBonds, > > > Hi Marilyn > I have Ann FRENCH daughter of Thomas (in my husband's tree). > She was born in > Napton c 1825 and married Clement FELL in 1844 in Napton. > Does this have any > connection with your research? > > Velda > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > List archives are at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2637/5514 - Release > Date: 01/06/13 > ------------------------------ To contact the WARWICK list administrator, send an email to WARWICK-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Hi Marilyn I have Ann FRENCH daughter of Thomas (in my husband's tree). She was born in Napton c 1825 and married Clement FELL in 1844 in Napton. Does this have any connection with your research? Velda

Hello Cliff, According to his marriage record to Mary ASTON via Ancestry's Warwickshire Parish Register Images, one of the witnesses at the marriage was a James LINES - perhaps a brother? Looking for other LINES marriages at Coventry, there is one on 20 February 1827 at Coventry Holy Trinity of a James LANE & Catherine LINES where one of the witnesses was a Sarah LINES - possibly a sister? William LINES' burial record shows that he was aged 71 when he died at Spon Street and was buried at Coventry St Michael which gives him an approximate birth date of 1772. Could this be a candidate for William's first marriage: 24 August 1800 at Warwick St Mary William LINES, bachelor & Catherine CARR, spinster, both of the parish by banns Children to this couple appear to be: 10 Oct 1801 William LINES son of William & Catherine 26 Aug 1803 Ann LINES daughter of William & Catherine 28 Oct 1805 Catherine LINES daughter of William & Catherine 24 Feb 1808 Sarah LINES daughter of William & Catherine 16 Apr 1810 James LYNES son of William & Catherine All baptised at Coventry St John the Baptist. No other children after 1810 to this couple that I can find so far. I cannot find a burial for Catherine but the burial records for Coventry St John are pretty difficult to read between 1810 and 1812 so Catherine may well have died during that time. William himself appears on the Electoral Registers for Coventry at Spon End between 1832 and 1837. There is a Family Tree on Ancestry which shows William's parents to be Thomas LINES (LYNES) and Mary WAGSTAFF who married at Coventry Holy Trinity on 31 October 1779 but this does not fit in with his age on the 1841 census nor his age at death as the baptism of this William is not until 1788. There is a death registration on the GRO Index of a Mary LYNES in the June qtr 1859 at Coventry reg district who could perhaps be your Mary. Have you thought to look for a will for your William? Given that he was a Shopkeeper he may well have left a will which could give you valuable clues in your quest to find his parents. A2A website have quite a few records relating to William LINES/LYNES of Coventry and you may pick up something of interest if you look through them. Looking for any records to do with James LINES, A2A has a couple of mentions, one being that of a copy will of James LINES of Coventry Coal Dealer dated 1824 and a copy will dated 1831 of his brother Richard, a Victualler of Warwick both held at Warwickshire Record Office - perhaps worth further investigation. Hope this gives you a few other avenues to explore. Janet William Lines married Mary Aston (Arston) at St John the Baptist, Coventry on 13 Oct 1812 - he was shown to be a widower They appear in the 1841 Census at Spon End William 65ish Shopkeeper b Warks Mary 55ish b Warks William died on 30 Sep 1843 and was buried on 4 Oct 1843 The 1851 Census for Spon End shows Mary 70 wid Grocer b Berkswell I have located five children from their marriage Disappointingly, I cannot trace William prior to this marriage

I don't know Velda I haven't researched the family of George and Mary forward This what I know about them Geo FRENCH of Napton married Mary SYMMONDS of Wolfhamcote 12th May 1746 at Ladbroke They seem to be the parents of Mary bapt 31 Mar 1747 at Grandborough Eliz bapt 17 May 1753 at Stretton on Dunsmore Robert bapt 2 Feb 1755 at Stretton on Dunsmore Alice bapt 5 Jul 1757 at Stretton on Dunsmore Alice may be the one who married Robert SPENCER at Napton, I am hoping she is - I don't have another candidate! Marilyn http://www.familyhistorynorthants.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Velda Hampton > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 8:50 AM > To: warwick@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WAR] FRENCH in Napton and Stretton on Dunsmore > and MarriageBonds, > > > Hi Marilyn > I have Ann FRENCH daughter of Thomas (in my husband's tree). > She was born in > Napton c 1825 and married Clement FELL in 1844 in Napton. > Does this have any > connection with your research? > > Velda > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > List archives are at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2637/5514 - Release > Date: 01/06/13 >

Thanks Celia, Will give it a try Marilyn http://www.familyhistorynorthants.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Celia Renshaw > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 2:22 PM > To: warwick@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WAR] FRENCH in Napton and Stretton on Dunsmore > and Marriage Bonds, > > > Hi Marilyn, it's good to see you again. > > BTs for Napton on the Hill are held at Lichfield RO for 1662 > to 1837 for marriages and to 1847 for baps/burials, so I > would judge there's a good chance a 1784 marriage bond will > be held there. The staff are brill but will probably charge > you to do the lookup or a photocopy. Let me know if you need > help getting info or a copy. Sadly FRENCH is not one of the > names I'm chasing in Warwicks. > > Regards, Celia Renshaw > in Chesterfield UK > > > On 6 January 2013 21:20, Marilyn Ponting <lookups@dccnet.com> wrote: > > Robert SPENCER of Hellidon, Northamptonshire and Alice FRENCH of > > Napton married 1784 31-Aug at Napton on the Hill by Licence > > > > The marriage bond is not at the Northamptonshire Record > Office, where > > they have a large collection. > > > > If Robert applied for the licence in Warwickshire where > would the bond > > be held (supposing that it survives) Google tells me it would be > > Worcester or Litchfield - which is most likely? > > > > There is a baptism for an Alice FRENCH 5th July 1757 in Stretton on > > Dunsmore daughter of George and Mary. This fits fairly well > with her > > age at death - 78 - buried 26th Oct 1837 in Weedon Bec, Northants. > > > > Is anyone researching the FRENCH family in this area? > > > > Marilyn Ponting > > > >