I've already pored through the Tysoe registers. Hence, this has prompted my post. >From: "Jacqui Simkins" <wesimkinsandson@btconnect.com> >To: <WARWICK@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [WAR] Marriage date for Edward Watts of Tysoe (1634/5-1705) >Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 18:05:20 +0100 > >In the USA you do have access to the LDS Family History Centre network. >This I did point out in my original post, as it was not obvious which >country you were in. > >The process of working through a parish register means that you are not >likely to be misled by any transcription mistakes by others, it also >enables you to learn more about the parish and its people. The older >registers can be a goldmine of "added information" where incumbents have >noted incidents in the locality. > >J. > > > Since I'm in the US, stopping by the county record office as well as >"local > libraries" would be a stretch. > > > > > >Copies of parish registers can be viewed in the county record office; >also > >some local libraries hold copies for parishes within their area. In > >addition, the LDS Family History Centres have the films available - any >of > >their centres, not just those in UK. > > > >You can then work progressively backwards gathering the clan members. > > > >Jacqui > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Steve Barnhoorn > > To: WARWICK@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 5:22 PM > > Subject: [WAR] Marriage date for Edward Watts of Tysoe (1634/5-1705) > > > > > > Need the marriage date for Edward Watts (baptized on 22 February >1634/5; > > died in 1705). Wife's first name was Joan. Would also like to know >her > > maiden name. The marriage possibly occurred between 1660-1663. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only on >MSN > > http://liveearth.msn.com?source=msntaglineliveearthhm > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes > >in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.5/826 - Release Date: > >31/05/2007 16:51 > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes > >in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Don't miss your chance to WIN $10,000 and other great prizes from >Microsoft > Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/aub0540003042mrt/direct/01/ > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.5/826 - Release Date: >31/05/2007 16:51 > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Don’t miss your chance to WIN $10,000 and other great prizes from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/aub0540003042mrt/direct/01/

Faith Capnerhurst wrote: > It has been a while since I purchased a certificate, but when I did, I went > to the Birmingham Register Office, and they accepted a postal money order in > Pounds Sterling. Is this not an acceptable form of payment at any record > office? I am about ready to buy more certificates so I really need to know > this. I find my credit card is not accepted (nothing to do with available > credit) by any of the genealogy sites I have tried to use it for so far. So > I thought the postal money order would be the best option. Am I correct in > this? Record Offices are archives and don't issue certificates. Postal orders in sterling are usually acceptable and if you've had them accepted before there's no reason why they should not be acceptable now. I find it strange that your credit card hasn't been accepted although there's no indication from your email address as to where you are. Many sites are now signing up to Verisign as a means of preventing fraudulent transactions. It means you have to register your card which is free. If you chose not to do so, then you have three (IIRC) opportunities to do so before your card will be declined. I don't know how this affects anyone with overseas issued cards or if it's a case of our dozy government not having thought that far!! Alternatives would be a counter cheque from a building society if you have one and you're in the UK, or if not, a sterling bankers draft, sterling travellers cheque made out to the register office and both signed and countersigned or a reciprocal arrangement with UK based friend or relative. -- Charani (UK)

Since I'm in the US, stopping by the county record office as well as "local libraries" would be a stretch. >From: "Jacqui Simkins" <wesimkinsandson@btconnect.com> >To: <WARWICK@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [WAR] Marriage date for Edward Watts of Tysoe (1634/5-1705) >Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 17:27:36 +0100 > >Copies of parish registers can be viewed in the county record office; also >some local libraries hold copies for parishes within their area. In >addition, the LDS Family History Centres have the films available - any of >their centres, not just those in UK. > >You can then work progressively backwards gathering the clan members. > >Jacqui > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steve Barnhoorn > To: WARWICK@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 5:22 PM > Subject: [WAR] Marriage date for Edward Watts of Tysoe (1634/5-1705) > > > Need the marriage date for Edward Watts (baptized on 22 February 1634/5; > died in 1705). Wife's first name was Joan. Would also like to know her > maiden name. The marriage possibly occurred between 1660-1663. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only on MSN > http://liveearth.msn.com?source=msntaglineliveearthhm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.5/826 - Release Date: >31/05/2007 16:51 > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Don’t miss your chance to WIN $10,000 and other great prizes from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/aub0540003042mrt/direct/01/

Need the marriage date for George Watts (baptized on 4 October 1663; died in 1750), son of Edward and Joan (?) Watts of Tysoe. Wife's first name was Sarah (she died in 1728, Tysoe). Would also like to know Sarah’s maiden name. The marriage possibly occurred between 1690-1700. _________________________________________________________________ PC Magazine’s 2007 editors’ choice for best Web mail—award-winning Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507

Need the marriage date for Edward Watts (baptized on 22 February 1634/5; died in 1705). Wife's first name was Joan. Would also like to know her maiden name. The marriage possibly occurred between 1660-1663. _________________________________________________________________ Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only on MSN http://liveearth.msn.com?source=msntaglineliveearthhm

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Hello Christine When I have wanted to search by address rather than person I have sent an email to the Family Record Centre asking for the reference (piece, folio & page number) for that street. Their email address is DisplayMail('nationalarchives.gov.uk','frc'); frc@nationalarchives.gov.uk They are very helpful and on a few occasions found the ancestor I was looking for if I had stated their names in the email. Hope this helps Regards Carole christine richards <mac92_1999@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 07:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Hello to all This is a long shot but does anyone know what reference number on the 1851 census 55 Belmont Row Aston would come under as I have recieved a birth certificate with that address on. Would like to know if my family were still there in 1851. The sub district on the birth certificate is Duddeston & Nechells Any help appreciated Regards Christine --------------------------------- Next-generation email? Now you can have it with All New Yahoo! Mail.

Hi Christine, There were 62 "Households" listed in Belmont Row, Aston in 1851 - but the houses aren't numbered........ But the Reference is HO107; Piece 2061; Folios 623-630. Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "christine richards" <mac92_1999@yahoo.co.uk> To: <warwick-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 3:18 PM Subject: [WAR] Address Search 1851 Hello to all This is a long shot but does anyone know what reference number on the 1851 census 55 Belmont Row Aston would come under as I have recieved a birth certificate with that address on. Would like to know if my family were still there in 1851. The sub district on the birth certificate is Duddeston & Nechells Any help appreciated Regards Christine --------------------------------- Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Tryit now. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A Fair Comment - BUT.... The "original" at the Local Registrar's Office - from which the copy was made to send to National Office - was itself a transcript... [Unless, of course, the marriage took place *in* the Registrrar's Office, or in a place 'licenced to perform Marriages', but nevertheless not permitted to hold Registers.] Once you've got the certificate, and so *know* just where the marriage took place, then's the time to look at the Original.... Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Herdman" <gherdman@toucansurf.com> To: <WARWICK-L@rootsweb.com>; <mattrussell79@aol.com> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [WAR] Obtaining marriage certificate Hi Matt, Can't comment directly about Warwick records office but do remember that GRO copies are just that - they are copies of the originals sent to London at the end of each quarter (at least - up to the time when the current, troubled, electronic system was rolled out) and can, therefore, suffer transcription errors. In my own family we had a GRO Marriage certificate that recorded the bride's father as 'deceased' but also appeared as a witness! Contact with (Birmingham) Records Office confirmed that the word 'Deceased' had crept in when the copy was made for GRO. So, in general, ordering from the local office removed one possible source of error on certificates. Regards Greg ----- Original Message ----- From: <mattrussell79@aol.com> To: <WARWICK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 12:33 PM Subject: [WAR] Obtaining marriage certificate > Hi everyone, > > Just want a bit of advice about obtaining a marriage certificate. I see that I have a few options. > 1. Directly from the GRO. > 2. FRom the Warwick records office > 3. FRom the various researchers that offer a certificate service. > > >From what I have been able to find by searching on the internet, obtaining a certificate from the GRO or from the Warwick records office is much cheaper. I am wondering if there are any possible problems obtaining them from these places. > > I live in Australia. Has anyone had any experience it how long it would take to get to me from the GRO or Warwick records office. > > Thanks for your help > > Matt > > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.5/826 - Release Date: 31/05/07 16:51 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.5/826 - Release Date: 31/05/07 16:51 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Matt, Can't comment directly about Warwick records office but do remember that GRO copies are just that - they are copies of the originals sent to London at the end of each quarter (at least - up to the time when the current, troubled, electronic system was rolled out) and can, therefore, suffer transcription errors. In my own family we had a GRO Marriage certificate that recorded the bride's father as 'deceased' but also appeared as a witness! Contact with (Birmingham) Records Office confirmed that the word 'Deceased' had crept in when the copy was made for GRO. So, in general, ordering from the local office removed one possible source of error on certificates. Regards Greg ----- Original Message ----- From: <mattrussell79@aol.com> To: <WARWICK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 12:33 PM Subject: [WAR] Obtaining marriage certificate > Hi everyone, > > Just want a bit of advice about obtaining a marriage certificate. I see that I have a few options. > 1. Directly from the GRO. > 2. FRom the Warwick records office > 3. FRom the various researchers that offer a certificate service. > > >From what I have been able to find by searching on the internet, obtaining a certificate from the GRO or from the Warwick records office is much cheaper. I am wondering if there are any possible problems obtaining them from these places. > > I live in Australia. Has anyone had any experience it how long it would take to get to me from the GRO or Warwick records office. > > Thanks for your help > > Matt > > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.5/826 - Release Date: 31/05/07 16:51 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.5/826 - Release Date: 31/05/07 16:51

A big thank you to all who replied to my cry for help. Regards Christine --------------------------------- Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Tryit now.

mattrussell79@aol.com wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Just want a bit of advice about obtaining a marriage certificate. I > see that I have a few options. 1. Directly from the GRO. 2. FRom > the Warwick records office 3. FRom the various researchers that > offer a certificate service. > >> From what I have been able to find by searching on the internet, >> obtaining a certificate from the GRO or from the Warwick records >> office is much cheaper. Warwickshire Record Office will be able to provide you with a copy of the entry from the parish registers for which they will make a charge. I think what you mean is Warwick Register Office which is not the same thing. You are wise not to use a certificate service. Although some are reputable and honest, some are not. I do know of one lady who believed the going price for certificates was 60 GBP because that was what she'd been charged. > I am wondering if there are any possible problems obtaining them from > these places. I've not heard of anyone having any problems getting certificates from register offices but I do know of one that has decided to charge more than the 7 GBP that a certificate does cost (not Warwick!). I use the GRO regularly for certificates and have never had any problems with them at all. > I live in Australia. Has anyone had any experience it how long it > would take to get to me from the GRO or Warwick records office. I can't comment on the register office since I don't use them but the GRO takes 7-10 days I believe. -- Charani (UK)

Hi Matt, Your 2nd choice is actually Warwick REGISTRAR's Office - the Records Office doesn't hold the information - but allowing for that, those are indeed your options. But I'd ignore any sort of "Certificate Service" - for *they* will use options 1 or 2; add a good 50% - and take longer. You real problem is Paying. Unless you have a bank account (in sterling) AND it's held at a 'London-Clearing' Bank - or (for an additional fee) you can purchase such a cheque from your own bank - don't attempt Warwick Registrar's Office. (Their bank's charges for processing any other sort of cheque are roughly 3 times the face value of a cheque for a single certificate...) Far and away your best bet is to order online from the GRO using your credit card. (This is usually the best way to get a Marriage Certificate in any event, for many local Registrars won't issue one at all UNLESS you can tell them the exact date and place of the marriage - which is usually the reason you want the cert in the first place!) HTH Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: <mattrussell79@aol.com> To: <WARWICK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 12:33 PM Subject: [WAR] Obtaining marriage certificate Hi everyone, Just want a bit of advice about obtaining a marriage certificate. I see that I have a few options. 1. Directly from the GRO. 2. FRom the Warwick records office 3. FRom the various researchers that offer a certificate service. >From what I have been able to find by searching on the internet, obtaining a certificate from the GRO or from the Warwick records office is much cheaper. I am wondering if there are any possible problems obtaining them from these places. I live in Australia. Has anyone had any experience it how long it would take to get to me from the GRO or Warwick records office. Thanks for your help Matt ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello All. I have just sent another completed 1861 census file to Pickard for upload to his Pink Pages http://www.hunimex.com/warwick/freecens/1861/index_1861.html We have been working for over two years now and have transcribed 82 pieces with another 34 to go. Most of the work is online (see URL above) or will be when I get time to prepare the files for upload. We are working on the last 4 rural pieces, with the remainder being 20 Birmingham and 10 Aston Districts. The number of volunteers in the 1861 Team is dwindling as people either complete their allocation or drop by the wayside, (mostly the latter) due to poor health, lack of spare time, family and work commitments or sheer exhaustion . (and not due to my bullying, nagging or the threat of a flogging every few weeks ) Anyone interested in helping us out should email me off list please for details. I provide a FREE CD plus instructions on "how to" and you get the joy of learning about Enumerator's quirks and an intimate knowledge of the streets of Brum in 1861. I am prepared to split most of the pieces to get the work completed asap so it's not a huge commitment. I prefer experienced transcribers but at this stage I ain't too fussy so long as you are prepared to contribute ! I had hoped to retire last year and move on to PRs but will plod on for a while longer- I still believe we are providing a useful FREE alternative to the pay to view sites. Would current members of the 1861 Team please email me with a progress report if you have not done so in the last month. Cheers Wendy Boland aka Madame Lash. Co-ordinator Warwickshire 1861 census and FreeREG Transcription Teams

Hi Matt. I've used the GRO and ordered online for ages now and never had any problem. Cost 7GBP, "standard service" in the UK is around 7-14 days depending, I suppose, on demand and hols. Don;t know about purchasinf from abroad. One tip that I did see somewhere that may be handy is to always use just one credit card for all your online transactions - don't "spread the purchases about over several cards". I guess that is so, should there be any payment issues or if you are unfortunate enough to have your card details nicked over the net, you only have the one credit card company to deal with. HTH. Ian Phillpott My family history website: _www.freewebs.com/phillpottdebian/index.htm_ (http://www.freewebs.com/phillpottdebian/index.htm)

Could someone please help me to decipher the name on a birth certificate I received today. If any one could help could you please e-mail off list and I could send you a sample for you to see. Regards Christine --------------------------------- Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Tryit now.

Hi Gus and All, It has been a while since I purchased a certificate, but when I did, I went to the Birmingham Register Office, and they accepted a postal money order in Pounds Sterling. Is this not an acceptable form of payment at any record office? I am about ready to buy more certificates so I really need to know this. I find my credit card is not accepted (nothing to do with available credit) by any of the genealogy sites I have tried to use it for so far. So I thought the postal money order would be the best option. Am I correct in this? Regards, Faith Capnerhurst researching CAPNERHURST/CAPENHURST, CHADD, CARRINGTON, SMITH, CLARK(E) & ALLEN >From: "Gus Tysoe" <gustysoe@tiscali.co.uk> >To: <WARWICK-L@rootsweb.com>, <mattrussell79@aol.com> >Subject: Re: [WAR] Obtaining marriage certificate >Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 13:12:55 +0100 > >Hi Matt, > >Your 2nd choice is actually Warwick REGISTRAR's Office - the Records Office >doesn't hold the information - but allowing for that, those are indeed your >options. > >But I'd ignore any sort of "Certificate Service" - for *they* will use >options 1 or 2; add a good 50% - and take longer. > > >You real problem is Paying. Unless you have a bank account (in sterling) >AND >it's held at a 'London-Clearing' Bank - or (for an additional fee) you can >purchase such a cheque from your own bank - don't attempt Warwick >Registrar's Office. (Their bank's charges for processing any other sort of >cheque are roughly 3 times the face value of a cheque for a single >certificate...) > >Far and away your best bet is to order online from the GRO using your >credit >card. (This is usually the best way to get a Marriage Certificate in any >event, for many local Registrars won't issue one at all UNLESS you can tell >them the exact date and place of the marriage - which is usually the reason >you want the cert in the first place!) > >HTH > >Gus > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <mattrussell79@aol.com> >To: <WARWICK-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 12:33 PM >Subject: [WAR] Obtaining marriage certificate > > >Hi everyone, > >Just want a bit of advice about obtaining a marriage certificate. I see >that >I have a few options. >1. Directly from the GRO. >2. FRom the Warwick records office >3. FRom the various researchers that offer a certificate service. > > >From what I have been able to find by searching on the internet, >obtaining >a certificate from the GRO or from the Warwick records office is much >cheaper. I am wondering if there are any possible problems obtaining them >from these places. > >I live in Australia. Has anyone had any experience it how long it would >take >to get to me from the GRO or Warwick records office. > >Thanks for your help > >Matt > >________________________________________________________________________ >AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free >from >AOL at AOL.com. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail with drag and drop, you can easily move and organize your mail in one simple step. Get it today! www.newhotmail.ca?icid=WLHMENCA153

Hi everyone, Just want a bit of advice about obtaining a marriage certificate. I see that I have a few options. 1. Directly from the GRO. 2. FRom the Warwick records office 3. FRom the various researchers that offer a certificate service. >From what I have been able to find by searching on the internet, obtaining a certificate from the GRO or from the Warwick records office is much cheaper. I am wondering if there are any possible problems obtaining them from these places. I live in Australia. Has anyone had any experience it how long it would take to get to me from the GRO or Warwick records office. Thanks for your help Matt ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

Hello to all This is a long shot but does anyone know what reference number on the 1851 census 55 Belmont Row Aston would come under as I have recieved a birth certificate with that address on. Would like to know if my family were still there in 1851. The sub district on the birth certificate is Duddeston & Nechells Any help appreciated Regards Christine --------------------------------- Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Tryit now.