Thank you very much Diane and Raphael for your help. Very much appreciated. Mary in West Oz

Not a jeweller - a far more dangerous and difficult skill! http://www.topforge.co.uk/Magazines/Explaining.htm A very good article explaining the workings of Wortley Top Forge near Sheffield which is hopefully not under water this wet and windy a.m. Bit worried about Sheffield Archives as they are periously close to Porter and Sheaf Brooks both of which broke their banks last night. Anne Paling SHEFFIELD, U.K. >From: "Faith Capnerhurst" <fcapnerhurst@msn.com> >To: warwick@rootsweb.com >Subject: [WAR] occupation: Pudler/puddler >Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 01:51:43 -0700 > >Hi Folks, > >I have been working on one of my difficult cases today, that being the >Carrington family. In looking through the records on FreeReg, I came >across >some records that list an occupation called "pudler" or "puddler". Does >anyone know what this is? The Carringtons in my line seem to be jewellers >(at least the two generations I am aware of are). I know that my gg >grandfather, George Carrington, was a pearl cutter and his father, George, >was a jeweller. Would a puddler have any connection to the jeweller's >trade? > >I appreciate any feedback on the topic. > >Regards, > >Faith Capnerhurst >Canada > >researching CAPNERHURST/CAPENHURST, CHADD, CARRINGTON, SMITH, CLARK(E) & >ALLEN > >_________________________________________________________________ >Windows Live Hotmail. Now with better security, storage and features. >www.newhotmail.ca?icid=WLHMENCA149 > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Wendy and Fellow listers world wide, I am researching the following REEVES family. So Far I have trawled the FREE look up side of Ancestry for my lot. Spent 12 hours in one session searching any name with the letter R picking out any possible names for my partner to look up. Nothing was to be found any where for any of the names so I have come to think they have been totally miss transcribed completly. I realise that some of the REEVES family may not still be living at home by the time of the 1841 census. Now in some other census years you can trawl the different areas inside warwrickshire. Can you do this with the 1841 and if so how can you do it? Any clues most welcome. So here are my missing lot.... Joseph REEVES born Abt. 1790 somewhere in Warwickshire we assume Maria REEVES nee WYKES Same as above for her Children... Benjamin REEVES born Abt. 1815 Nuneaton, Warwickshire, England William REEVES born Abt. 1817 Nuneaton, Warwickshire, England Rebecca REEVES born Abt. 1819 St Lawrence, Foleshill, Warwickshire, Eng Joseph REEVES born Abt. 1821 St Lawrence, Foleshill, Warwickshire, Eng I have Benjamin in the 1851 and 1861 census as a married Man. First in Gloucester City for 1851 mistranscribed as REVES and then in Crumlin, penmaen district Mynyddislwyn, Wales for the 1861. Here he was miss transcribed as Benjm REEVES. Any help most appreciated. Kathy HILL New Zealand Committee Member Welsh Interest Group http://www.rootsweb.com/~nzsgwig/ wignewzealand@yahoo.com.au -- We've Got Your Name at http://www.mail.com! Get a FREE E-mail Account Today - Choose From 100+ Domains

Hi Folks, I have been working on one of my difficult cases today, that being the Carrington family. In looking through the records on FreeReg, I came across some records that list an occupation called "pudler" or "puddler". Does anyone know what this is? The Carringtons in my line seem to be jewellers (at least the two generations I am aware of are). I know that my gg grandfather, George Carrington, was a pearl cutter and his father, George, was a jeweller. Would a puddler have any connection to the jeweller's trade? I appreciate any feedback on the topic. Regards, Faith Capnerhurst Canada researching CAPNERHURST/CAPENHURST, CHADD, CARRINGTON, SMITH, CLARK(E) & ALLEN _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail. Now with better security, storage and features. www.newhotmail.ca?icid=WLHMENCA149

I am searching for an ALFRED BEASLEY (or Beazley - the spelling is inconsistent throught o the 1950s) born c1867 Rugby, Warwickshire d1900 Chelsea, London m Jane Farley Paddington, London 1889 4 children: Amy Zilpah, Edith Balmarina, Alfred Henry, Sidney Alfred. Any help welcome, Pat

Hi Mary, Can't say for sure but Joseph the steel pen manufacturer lived in King's Norton in 1851. In 1871 he was in Edgbaston, which is not all that far from King's Norton. Diane in California ----Original Message Follows---- 1873 Owners of Land Schedule shows the following: Name of Owner: Gillot, Jos., Exors. of Address of Owner: King's Norton Extent of Lands. 68 acres 2 rods 4 perches Gross Estimated Rental. ?230 10s. County Worcester Does anyone know for certain please if this land belonged to Joseph Gillott the penmaker of Birmingham? He died c 1872/3. I also have a Joseph Gillott, born in Derbyshire who held land in Harborne and who died around the same time. His son, Thomas, took the land over in 1872 and it seems subsequently sold it as he appears as a coachman in the 1881 census. _________________________________________________________________ Like puzzles? Play free games & earn great prizes. Play Clink now. http://club.live.com/clink.aspx?icid=clink_hotmailtextlink2

Further to my recent enquiry, I have 2 supplememtary questions: Are there any Directories for Coventry post 1917? I've checked historicaldirectories.com, but they only have material up to about 1914/1915. I have 3 posed, professional photos of Victor John Taylor RIPLEY, which suggest he was involved in the theatre/amatuer dramatics in Coventry. Again, are there any theatrical sources I can look up or buy? Rod. In showery Notting Hill, West London.

Hello List Is there anyone on the List who lives or lived in Wolston and who may know what happened to a Cheshire farming couple who were at Wolston Grange farm in 1891? By 1901 the wife is shown as "married" but is housekeeper on a farm near Leek. Neither I, nor other researchers connected to the family, have found the husband on 1901 census. In 1891 the couple are: Frederick Joseph BASKERVILLE 26 born Alderley, and his wife Annie 22. They had no children listed on the census. I have a family memoir which records Annie married in red - which was "unlucky"; it goes on to say she died in childbirth. The latter is possible, she appears to have died 1903, though her position in 1901 suggests the father may not have been her husband. Any lively stories known in the Wolston area? Jacqui

Hello all 1873 Owners of Land Schedule shows the following: Name of Owner: Gillot, Jos., Exors. of Address of Owner: King's Norton Extent of Lands. 68 acres 2 rods 4 perches Gross Estimated Rental. £230 10s. County Worcester Does anyone know for certain please if this land belonged to Joseph Gillott the penmaker of Birmingham? He died c 1872/3. I also have a Joseph Gillott, born in Derbyshire who held land in Harborne and who died around the same time. His son, Thomas, took the land over in 1872 and it seems subsequently sold it as he appears as a coachman in the 1881 census. Any help would be very much appreciated. Mary in West Oz

I just thought I'd list those I'm researching in Polesworth to see if anyone else was on the same line(s). Charles BASSETT b. 1804 Thomas BASSETT b abt 1767 Elizabeth SMITH b. abt 1771 Dorothy SALISBURY b 1806 William SALISBURY 1784 Mary BOTT b. 1785 William BOTT b abt 1759 Dorothy WARNER b. 1763 Richard WARNER b. 1725 Hope I can connect with someone! Sheri

Hi List, I would also like to thank Michael McAllister and Rebecca Coles for their suggestions. Thank you both, I really appreciate your help. Best Wishes, Cheryl

Hi List, I would like to thank Susan Tall for her generous help with my request.. Thank you so much Susan for all your help. It really is greatly appreciated. Best Wishes, Cheryl

I am the historian for the Worcestershire Royal Field Artillery and have just learned that one of the men in our unit who died in the first world war is commemorated (either on the war memorial or in an actual CWGC grave) in Witton cemetery. His name was Gunner A J P Hathaway, and the reference there is 102.15992 I have a website dedicated to the men of the brigade in which I have almost all of the graves photographed. Website details are below. Unfortunately (?) I now live in Tenerife and rarely return to the UK. Is there a possibility that somebody there with a digital camera would be able to visit the memorial for me and take a picture of the inscription from directly in front? I would be most grateful if anybody could help me in this way. regards Dennis Corbett Historian 2nd South Midland (241st) Brigade, Royal Field Artillery. Website http://www.denniscorbett.com

Joy, There is a reference on the Access to Archives site (www.a2a.org.uk) of a William FAKENER dated 1583 and also a mention of Thomas GIBBES and his second wife Margaret WILKES sister and co-heir of Robert WILKES. This Thomas GIBBES is of Hodnell.. There is also a will available to download for £3.50 on the National Archives Documents Online site (www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/) of a William FAKENER of Alveston dated 10 February 1635 which might be useful and also the will of Thomas GIBBES of St Helen Hodnell alias Watergall dated 8 September 1631 - any use?? Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy Robbins" <joy1982@alltel.net> To: <warwick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 11:24 AM Subject: [WAR] Falkner/Faulkner Family of Warwickshire > > Hello List: I am seeking information on the Faulkner family in 16-17th > c. > Warwickshire. In particular, I am interested in the following: > > ALIS FAKENER > born: 14 MAY 1545 Alveston, Warwick, England > Marriage: THOMAS GIBBES 19 NOV 1571 Alveston, Warwick, England > > IGI Batch Number: C039672 > > I would like to find out who her parents were if possible. I have found > about six variant spellings to include: Faulkner; FAWKENER, FAKENER, > FALCKNER, FAUCONER > > A Thomas Gybbes/Gibbs had a daughter born in 1572 Honington (PR) named Ane > and I'm trying to find a mother who fits into the picture. Thomas married > second, Margaret Wilkes Dimcock in c. 1598. > > Any help or suggestions is appreciated. > > Joy > Georgia, USA > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.1/857 - Release Date: 20/06/2007 > 14:18 > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 13639 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Many thanks to Cheryl, Ken and Bill for directing me to the Genmaps site - which was totally new to me, and which provided a pair of mutually-contradictory possible solutions. But it was Peter who provided what I am taking to be The Answer - from the Cassini edition of the 1830s-40s Ordnance Survey 1" maps. This differed from both of the other maps (!) but while even the OS has been known to be in error on occasion I nevertheless feel that they are apt to be more reliable overall than any other mappings. I'd always known that this list contained a lot of knowledgeable and helpful people, but I never really expected I'd so quickly get an answer to such an abstruse question! Gus

I have the two Gybbes' wills, but not the William Fakener one. I will download that one and thanks for the great tip. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Booth" <janbooth@dsl.pipex.com> To: "Joy Robbins" <joy1982@alltel.net>; <warwick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 6:59 AM Subject: Re: [WAR] Falkner/Faulkner Family of Warwickshire > Joy, > > There is a reference on the Access to Archives site (www.a2a.org.uk) of a > William FAKENER dated 1583 and also a mention of Thomas GIBBES and his > second wife Margaret WILKES sister and co-heir of Robert WILKES. This > Thomas GIBBES is of Hodnell.. There is also a will available to download > for £3.50 on the National Archives Documents Online site > (www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/) of a William FAKENER of > Alveston dated 10 February 1635 which might be useful and also the will of > Thomas GIBBES of St Helen Hodnell alias Watergall dated 8 September 1631 - > any use?? > > Janet > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joy Robbins" <joy1982@alltel.net> > To: <warwick@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 11:24 AM > Subject: [WAR] Falkner/Faulkner Family of Warwickshire > > >> >> Hello List: I am seeking information on the Faulkner family in 16-17th >> c. >> Warwickshire. In particular, I am interested in the following: >> >> ALIS FAKENER >> born: 14 MAY 1545 Alveston, Warwick, England >> Marriage: THOMAS GIBBES 19 NOV 1571 Alveston, Warwick, England >> >> IGI Batch Number: C039672 >> >> I would like to find out who her parents were if possible. I have found >> about six variant spellings to include: Faulkner; FAWKENER, FAKENER, >> FALCKNER, FAUCONER >> >> A Thomas Gybbes/Gibbs had a daughter born in 1572 Honington (PR) named >> Ane >> and I'm trying to find a mother who fits into the picture. Thomas >> married >> second, Margaret Wilkes Dimcock in c. 1598. >> >> Any help or suggestions is appreciated. >> >> Joy >> Georgia, USA >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.1/857 - Release Date: 20/06/2007 >> 14:18 >> > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 13639 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > >

Hi All, I know that this is a big ask, but, is anyone on the list going to be visiting the Warwickshire Records Office in the near future? If so, could I beg a marriage look up please? I am looking for a marriage between a John PERCIVAL (spelling of this surname may vary), and a Mary in Merevale. I believe the time frame for the marriage is 1770 -1778 The earliest christening date for one of their children I have on record is 1778. But I don't know for sure if it's their first born. All their children were christened in Merevale. If there is someone that can help me, I would greatly appreciate all details that are recorded for this marriage. Best Wishes, Cheryl

Should be :- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~genmaps/genfiles/COU_Pages/ENG_pages/war.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl Levick" <cheryllevick@btinternet.com> To: "Gus Tysoe" <gustysoe@tiscali.co.uk>; <WARWICK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [WAR] Walsgrave on Sowe Parish > > Hi Gus, > > Here is a website that you may possibly find useful. > > freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com~genmaps/genfiles/COU_Pages/ENG_pages/war.htm > > It has Warwickshire maps dating from the 1600's to the 1900's. > > One of them may have the boundaries that you are looking for. > > Best Wishes, > > Cheryl > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gus Tysoe" <gustysoe@tiscali.co.uk> > To: <WARWICK@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 9:12 AM > Subject: [WAR] Walsgrave on Sowe Parish > > >> In the 1841 Census Report on Warwickshire, Walsgave on Sowe - then known >> simply as "Sowe" - was described as straddling a now-long-abolished >> boundary. >> >> Some 1,190 acres were in "County of Warwick; Knightlow Hundred; Kirby >> Division"; and >> a further 1,110 acres were in "County of the City of Coventry". >> >> The "County of the City of Coventry" was abolished in 1842 (when the >> charter >> of Henry VI was revoked) - but I am attempting to produce a map of >> Warwickshire as of the census Date in 1841, and cannot identify where the >> boundary ran across the Parish. >> >> Ordnance Survey Maps - the earliest accurate series at any rate - only >> date >> from the 1880s, and obviously do not include 40-years-dead boundaries. >> >> A Tithe Plan - if one was prepared at all for Walsgrave/Sowe - does not >> exist. >> >> Kain & Oliver's "Historic Parishes" CDs do not show it (they apparently >> use >> the 1880s OS map). >> >> >> Is there anyone out there who might be able to point me towards some >> other >> source that might hold the answer? >> >> Gus >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I will send a map direct Peter R Thompson Bedworth Warwickshire UK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gus Tysoe" <gustysoe@tiscali.co.uk> To: <WARWICK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 9:12 AM Subject: [WAR] Walsgrave on Sowe Parish > In the 1841 Census Report on Warwickshire, Walsgave on Sowe - then known > simply as "Sowe" - was described as straddling a now-long-abolished > boundary. > > Some 1,190 acres were in "County of Warwick; Knightlow Hundred; Kirby > Division"; and > a further 1,110 acres were in "County of the City of Coventry". > > The "County of the City of Coventry" was abolished in 1842 (when the > charter > of Henry VI was revoked) - but I am attempting to produce a map of > Warwickshire as of the census Date in 1841, and cannot identify where the > boundary ran across the Parish. > > Ordnance Survey Maps - the earliest accurate series at any rate - only > date > from the 1880s, and obviously do not include 40-years-dead boundaries. > > A Tithe Plan - if one was prepared at all for Walsgrave/Sowe - does not > exist. > > Kain & Oliver's "Historic Parishes" CDs do not show it (they apparently > use > the 1880s OS map). > > > Is there anyone out there who might be able to point me towards some other > source that might hold the answer? > > Gus > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Gus, Here is a website that you may possibly find useful. freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com~genmaps/genfiles/COU_Pages/ENG_pages/war.htm It has Warwickshire maps dating from the 1600's to the 1900's. One of them may have the boundaries that you are looking for. Best Wishes, Cheryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gus Tysoe" <gustysoe@tiscali.co.uk> To: <WARWICK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 9:12 AM Subject: [WAR] Walsgrave on Sowe Parish > In the 1841 Census Report on Warwickshire, Walsgave on Sowe - then known > simply as "Sowe" - was described as straddling a now-long-abolished > boundary. > > Some 1,190 acres were in "County of Warwick; Knightlow Hundred; Kirby > Division"; and > a further 1,110 acres were in "County of the City of Coventry". > > The "County of the City of Coventry" was abolished in 1842 (when the > charter > of Henry VI was revoked) - but I am attempting to produce a map of > Warwickshire as of the census Date in 1841, and cannot identify where the > boundary ran across the Parish. > > Ordnance Survey Maps - the earliest accurate series at any rate - only > date > from the 1880s, and obviously do not include 40-years-dead boundaries. > > A Tithe Plan - if one was prepared at all for Walsgrave/Sowe - does not > exist. > > Kain & Oliver's "Historic Parishes" CDs do not show it (they apparently > use > the 1880s OS map). > > > Is there anyone out there who might be able to point me towards some other > source that might hold the answer? > > Gus > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message