trying to find details of a John Faulkner born abt 1814 and married a Sarah about 1837. the 1851 census shows his place of birth as Eathorpe, War. The1861 and 1881 census show he was born in Austrey, however on the 1891 census his place of birth is shown as Tachbrook, War. Any help appreciated Fred Faulkner Australia

norenxaq wrote: > I am unsure if most online tudor sites go beyond Owen in the mid 1400s. > anything further back seems to be ignored and perhaps not realised here. > That was my point. If the online sites don't go back beyond there and there's nothing in a library either, then it means that there are no extant records beyond that point. It's also a well known fact that some Royal "genealogies" are fictitious. Perhaps it is wise to stop at the point where claimed descent can be supported. I think it would also be wise to desist from further discussion on Welsh genealogies on an English list.

Hi, I am after some information on , William Kimberley who married Ann Hail 31 Dec 1763 St Martins, Birmingham, Warwickshire, and any children they had, the only one I am reasonably sure of was Joseph b abt 1770 Meriden, Warwickshire, he married Catherine Mottram 21 Aug 1791 fillongley, Warwickshire, any help would be greatly appreciated Cheers Carole

norenxaq wrote: > People might, but it would be incorporated with other lines. There tends not to be so much of an obsession with having "royal connections" here and for many it's just an interesting aside - like my own. It's a fact that anyone who is descended from a native of England from 200 years ago has Royal blood in their veins. Various monarchs were not afraid to give certain subjects a share of their blood. > as for on-line material, it usually shows the rulers, wives, and > successors only, and thus not be complete esp. with regard to they > having Welsh ancestry Well, if it isn't online - and there are full ancestries available on line - there is always the local library. Their having Welsh ancestry shouldn't make any difference. Either way, the OP is going to have to do some work. There's unlikely to be a nice convenient GED available.

Sappa wrote: > Hi List, a friend of mine has asked me if I can produce a Lineage > of the Tudor Royal family to print and frame for his Wife's > birthday. In light of this does anyone have a GEDCOM or Family > Tree Maker file with the complete Tudor pedigree on it to save me > typing the whole family out from scratch. If you google "Tudor Royal Family" (with quotes) you'll find a number of sites that will give you the tree. The BBC's history page probably has one. I'd be surprised if anyone had a GED of such a tree or a software file on it.

Hi List, a friend of mine has asked me if I can produce a Lineage of the Tudor Royal family to print and frame for his Wife's birthday. In light of this does anyone have a GEDCOM or Family Tree Maker file with the complete Tudor pedigree on it to save me typing the whole family out from scratch. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Regards Daz.

Hi List Can anybody help? Aquila Adams b. 1645 Honington & was buried 1727 Honington, married Ann/e/a. Believed they married in Honington, Warwick. Can anybody help me or suggest were I can get Ann's maiden name & when they got married? With a name like Aquila, you think it would be easy to find! Every little bit helps. Rachel Williams (East Anglia) Names of interest ADAMS-Honington, Warwickshire HAWKINGS-Warwick HUTCHINS-Honington, Warwickshire TOMES-Honington, Warwickshire GADBURY/GADBERRY-Honington, Warwickshire _________________________________________________________________ Tell MSN about your most memorable emails! http://www.emailbritain.co.uk/

Firebird wrote: >norenxaq wrote: > > > >>People might, but it would be incorporated with other lines. >> >> > >There tends not to be so much of an obsession with having "royal >connections" here and for many it's just an interesting aside - like >my own. > > understood. I view it the same >It's a fact that anyone who is descended from a native of England from >200 years ago has Royal blood in their veins. Various monarchs were >not afraid to give certain subjects a share of their blood. > > > indeed >>as for on-line material, it usually shows the rulers, wives, and >>successors only, and thus not be complete esp. with regard to they >>having Welsh ancestry >> >> > >Well, if it isn't online - and there are full ancestries available on >line - there is always the local library. Their having Welsh ancestry >shouldn't make any difference. > > I am unsure if most online tudor sites go beyond Owen in the mid 1400s. anything further back seems to be ignored and perhaps not realised here. That was my point. >Either way, the OP is going to have to do some work. There's unlikely >to be a nice convenient GED available. > > > indeed

Firebird wrote: >Sappa wrote: > > > >>Hi List, a friend of mine has asked me if I can produce a Lineage >>of the Tudor Royal family to print and frame for his Wife's >>birthday. In light of this does anyone have a GEDCOM or Family >>Tree Maker file with the complete Tudor pedigree on it to save me >>typing the whole family out from scratch. >> >> > >If you google "Tudor Royal Family" (with quotes) you'll find a number >of sites that will give you the tree. The BBC's history page probably >has one. > >I'd be surprised if anyone had a GED of such a tree or a software file >on it. > > > > People might, but it would be incorporated with other lines. as for on-line material, it usually shows the rulers, wives, and successors only, and thus not be complete esp. with regard to they having Welsh ancestry

Rhonda Bartlett wrote: > Hello Listers, > Can any one help? > Mary Anne BARTLETT born Eldersfield married Thomas CHANDLER in Stratford > upon Avon in the September quarter 1884. > In the 1891 census, Mary is listed as widow with three children Ernest > Thomas, Rose Harriet and George Ernest > Mary's brother George Henry BARTLETT age 19 years, is living at the same > address. > I have hit a brick wall with any further details about Mary CHANDLER and > her children; also her brother George Henry BARTLETT. > If anyone can help these are the events I would like to know. > A record of Thomas CHANDLER's death. > Any record of Mary CHANDLER and children in the 1901 census > Any referance of George Henry BARTLETT born 1872 either Eldersfield or > Longdon Worcestershire in the 1901 census. Your "brickwall" should be very easily pushed over by trawling the GRO indices that are available on any of the sites regularly mentioned and the census is also available for searching which you can do for free. Don't expect the name to be exactly as you've given it. It may have been mistranscribed when it was indexed or by the enumerator when he made up his books or given incorrectly by a friend or neighbour if the family didn't or was unable to complete the schedule. If you can't find Thomas CHANDLER's death between 1884 and 1891 then search for his death well after 1891 right up to the point where he would be 100 and also look for his remarriage, possibly/probably not in his normal home parish. Have a look for Mary CHANDLER's remarriage. Remember she would have married under her former married name, not normally her maiden name. Also look for her death from 1891 onwards plus the marriages of her children from when each would have been 16. It was still legal for girls to marry at 12 and boys at 14 with permission of their parents or legal guardian or a responsible adult. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, SOM

Where's the mystery or the brick wall? Why can't you search the 1901 census and the death index for yourself, as both are on line? For one you will need to pay a small charge to download the full entry if you find them in the index www.1901censusonline.com and the other is free - partial (but very considerable) births, marriages & deaths on www.freebmd.org.uk and complete indexes freely accessible on www.ancestry.co.uk And you only have 7 years at the most to search if Thomas Chandler married in 1884 and his wife was a widow by 1891. A brick wall is when you have searched absolutely everywhere and still not found any of the people you are looking for and of course, if Mr Chandler hadn't died between 1884 and 1891 it would mean that his wife was only pretending to be a widow and he had left her. You would then have to search further to find him. MAR in France.

Many thanks Gus and Peter I think between you the problem has been solved. This has been an amazingly serendipitous bit of research. I was searching in Wolverhampton for Elizabeth LANGFORD, who married my G-Grandfather Solomon VEASEY. I found a possible entry in the GRO and sent for the birth certificate, only to find it was the WRONG parents, apparently totally unrelated to my Elizabeth. However, I was intrigued by the mother, Sarah who seemed to have had a chequered career. I now find that she and Solomon had the same 2G-Grandfather, so she is related to me after all, although not to the Elizabeth LANGFORD I was originally looking for. Thanks again Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gus Tysoe" <gustysoe@tiscali.co.uk> To: "D&P Veasey" <oldwell@btinternet.com>; <WARWICK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [WAR] Sarah VEAZEY > Further to my last - when sending it I received Peter Thompson's potential > answer of Bulkington.... > > Looks pretty good :-) > > Gus

Further to my last - when sending it I received Peter Thompson's potential answer of Bulkington.... Looks pretty good :-) Gus

Hello Peter, There is a Sarah VEASEY's baptism on the IGI at Bulkington, WAR, on 20 October 1805 - daughter of Wm & Elizabeth. There's also a Sarah Ann VEASEY 10 days earlier in Wolston - d/o William & [unnamed], and a Sarah VESEY at Clifton on Dunsmore on 27 Apr 1806, d/o Solomon & Mary, and born 16 Mar. All 3 would fit your estimated birth year of 1806 - which is about 3:1 more likely to be 1805 than 1806 when one considers the Spring date of the Censuses - but my money's on the first one, as she most-closely matches your spelling of her name. As to whether or not there's a Hamlet of Holyhurst in any of the 3 Parishes I don't know - if there is it isn't noted in the 1841 or 1851 Census Reports for the County :-( HTH Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "D&P Veasey" <oldwell@btinternet.com> To: <WARWICK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 10:00 AM Subject: [WAR] Sarah VEAZEY Hi everyone I am seeking the birth details of Sarah Veazey, born in Warwickshire around 1806. She appears in the 1851 and 1861 censuses, married to John Langford. The references are HO 107/2019/526/29 and RG9/2015/38/21. Unfortunately I cannot make out her birthplace. The nearest I can get is Holyhurst, but I cannot find such a place in Warwickshire. Her children by a previous marriage, the DEGVILLEs, were allegedly born at Atherstone. Any suggestions would be welcome. TIA Peter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is a Hollyhurst in Bulkington Parish. South West of the village - it appears to consist of a couple of farms and cottages. It is listed on http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ in their gazetteer Peter R Thompson Bedworth Warwickshire UK ----- Original Message ----- From: "D&P Veasey" <oldwell@btinternet.com> To: <WARWICK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 10:00 AM Subject: [WAR] Sarah VEAZEY > Hi everyone > > > > I am seeking the birth details of Sarah Veazey, born in Warwickshire > around 1806. She appears in the 1851 and 1861 censuses, married to John > Langford. The references are HO 107/2019/526/29 and RG9/2015/38/21. > Unfortunately I cannot make out her birthplace. The nearest I can get is > Holyhurst, but I cannot find such a place in Warwickshire. Her children > by a previous marriage, the DEGVILLEs, were allegedly born at Atherstone. > Any suggestions would be welcome. > > > > TIA > > Peter > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Mike Located this marriage on Family History Online Web Site 1. Married at Coughton, WAR Date 4/11/1799 Licence - Groom John CHATTERLEY aged - status Widower residence as entered - attributed Residence - Notes - Bride Mary GIBBS aged - status - residence as entered Tardebigge Attributed Residence Tardebigge Notes - Misc. Info. - So possibly it was Mark who came from Coughton , thre is a John Chatterley in 1851 Census who was born in Alcester , which of course is close by. The marriage was by License possibly a copy would be at Birmingham Archives. Helen NZ -----Original Message----- From: Helen Verrall [mailto:hverrall@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Saturday, 14 July 2007 2:18 p.m. To: 'Mike'; '1. Married at Coughton, WAR Date 4/11/1799 Licence - Groom John CHATTERLEY aged - status Widower residence as entered - attributed Residence - Notes - Bride Mary GIBBS aged - status - residence as entered Tardebigge Attributed Residence Tardebigge Notes - Misc. Info. -WARWICK@rootsweb.com' Subject: RE: [WAR] CHATTERLEY/DIXON Mike This is the only Mark Chatterley I can find before 1849 - ( there are also siblings ) >From British Vital Records Index. CHATTERLEY, Mark Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 26 May 1839 Recorded in: Leamington, Warwickshire, England Collection: All Saints Father: Edward CHATTERLEY Mother: Eliza Source: FHL Film 1067477 Dates: 1831 - 1861 In 1851 Census there are other CHATTERLEY's either living or born in Bearley. Edward above was born Bearley, so presumably the same gentleman you found. hth Helen Lower Hutt NZ -----Original Message----- From: warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Saturday, 14 July 2007 8:06 a.m. To: WARWICK@rootsweb.com Subject: [WAR] CHATTERLEY/DIXON Hello Again. According to the IGI Mark CHATTERLEY married Amelia DIZON (probably DIXON) in Coughton 29th May 1830. Is anyone able to help me, please, with any information about Mark's ancestors? The IGI has a son also, Mark, born in 1831 and three later siblings. I would like to connect this family back into the CHATTERLEY trees I am researching in the 10 mile area round Spernal. The only Mark CHATTERLEYs I have come across were one born in Leamington in 1849 to a Bearley born Edward CHATTERLEY and his nephew, Mark William born 1856 also in Leamington. TIA. Mike ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mike This is the only Mark Chatterley I can find before 1849 - ( there are also siblings ) >From British Vital Records Index. CHATTERLEY, Mark Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 26 May 1839 Recorded in: Leamington, Warwickshire, England Collection: All Saints Father: Edward CHATTERLEY Mother: Eliza Source: FHL Film 1067477 Dates: 1831 - 1861 In 1851 Census there are other CHATTERLEY's either living or born in Bearley. Edward above was born Bearley, so presumably the same gentleman you found. hth Helen Lower Hutt NZ -----Original Message----- From: warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Saturday, 14 July 2007 8:06 a.m. To: WARWICK@rootsweb.com Subject: [WAR] CHATTERLEY/DIXON Hello Again. According to the IGI Mark CHATTERLEY married Amelia DIZON (probably DIXON) in Coughton 29th May 1830. Is anyone able to help me, please, with any information about Mark's ancestors? The IGI has a son also, Mark, born in 1831 and three later siblings. I would like to connect this family back into the CHATTERLEY trees I am researching in the 10 mile area round Spernal. The only Mark CHATTERLEYs I have come across were one born in Leamington in 1849 to a Bearley born Edward CHATTERLEY and his nephew, Mark William born 1856 also in Leamington. TIA. Mike ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Listers, Can any one help? Mary Anne BARTLETT born Eldersfield married Thomas CHANDLER in Stratford upon Avon in the September quarter 1884. In the 1891 census, Mary is listed as widow with three children Ernest Thomas, Rose Harriet and George Ernest Mary's brother George Henry BARTLETT age 19 years, is living at the same address. I have hit a brick wall with any further details about Mary CHANDLER and her children; also her brother George Henry BARTLETT. If anyone can help these are the events I would like to know. A record of Thomas CHANDLER's death. Any record of Mary CHANDLER and children in the 1901 census Any referance of George Henry BARTLETT born 1872 either Eldersfield or Longdon Worcestershire in the 1901 census. Thank you Rhonda BARTLETT Busselton Western Australia.

Hi Lister Friends, I was very interested in the discussion on Bath Chairmen that has just taken place on our list. Firstly because I am incurably curious, secondly because I have come across chairwomen, ( which at first sighting I thought might have been an error for charwomen due to dialect), in my census transcriptions, and thirdly because I have some fond schoolday memories of Leamington, ( re the Leamington Music Festival). The very mention of "Bath Chair" and "Spa" recalls the elegance of The Parade and its environs!!! Thankyou to the lister who described a bath chair in such detail. Curiosity aroused, I googled "Bath Chair" and up came some suggestions---including Bathroom Accessories!!! Well I did ask, didn't I? The Encyclopaedia Britannica had a photograph, which you can click on to enlarge.A very good example, with hood, and steering device. Wikipaedia has a diagram of what looks like a wicker one, without hood---- maybe an indoor version used around the spa rooms? Well there they are if anyone fells like looking them up. Regards, Muriel.

Hello Mike Have you searched the following sources of information? Parish Register films borrowed through the LDS (instead of relying on the IGI alone there may be more info in the PRs than the INDEX and you need to verify your data using the original records) NBI (Burial Index) for deaths of Mark and Amelia - hence give you a better idea of their year of birth. census records for 1841 and 1851 - widely available. 1841 free online - LDS version of the 1851on CD is very inexpensive Civil registration records for the later siblings and family members which may give more clues. (Free to search online ) Wills and probate for the earlier Chatterleys? Trade Directories- apprenticeship records etc etc Any of the above may give you leads to follow and may allow you to eliminate some of the "surplus" Chatterleys from your branch.. Good hunting Wendy Boland List Admin According to the IGI Mark CHATTERLEY married Amelia DIZON (probably DIXON) in Coughton 29th May 1830. Is anyone able to help me, please, with any information about Mark's ancestors?