<<< I have relied heavily on the IGI for most of the pre-1800 ancestry, but am fairly confident of accuracy>>>> Hello Researchers. A word of caution. Always check the original whenever you can! The main problem with using the IGI alone is that you miss any burials. If you have the NBI and it covers the years you need, you may be able to confirm that people did not die as infants- that is if the age at burial was recorded. This is one of the reasons I am concentrating on the Burial records for FreeREG (when I get time) However, nothing beats trawling the PRs films- you get much more insight into the records. For example , you may come across a "dodgy" surname and realise that the person who wrote up the registers at this time period was barely literate and doing his best! ( I have seen marriage records where the couple had signed their names but the clerk had mis-spelt them - He also had atrocious writing). You may note a change of Incumbent - so realise why half a dozen children from one family are suddenly herded into church to be baptised on the same day ! You may note that name of a witness to a marriage that has puzzled you for ages was actually the churchwarden and witnessed a few dozen more marriages and is no relation to your lines at all! I must say that the IGI records from the "controlled extractions" are really very good, but I have found errors in them probably due to difficult handwriting -or faded pages . Any index will contain errors - some due to how the person has interpreted the original , others from typos and human error. ( It is interesting to note how a porrly written census record may be interpreted in several ways by different people- and who is to say at this stage which version is correct?) I rarely look at "Patron Submissions" or LDS member's contributions. on the IGI. Many of these seem to verge on fantasy. One trap for the unwary is to use the IGI as though it is a complete Index. Warwickshire is well covered for certain years but there are many gaps and omissions. You really should not add a name to your tree solely from the records found in the IGI without verification or evidence that Mr X from 40 miles away is your chap, based solely on finding a name and age that look right! Always check the original whenever you can! Good hunting Wendy Warwickshire FreeREG & 1841 & 1861 FreeCEN Coord www.hunimex.com/warwick
Carol Think this the family you are seeking in 1841 Census HO107/1149; Book: 10; Civil Parish: Aston; County: Warwickshire; Enumeration District: 21; Folio: 24; Page: 2; Sched 23; Great Brook Street STRICKLEY Joseph 40 Milkman Not Born in County " Ann 30 " " " Joseph 5 Born in County " Ann 4 " " " Elizabeth 2 " " NB Reminder Ages in 1841 Census for people over 15 were rounded down to the nearest 5. ( THo' think some Enumerators appear to have done the adjusting up rather than down. ) hth Helen New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JohnASaul@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2007 7:42 p.m. To: WARWICK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WAR] 1841 look-up please I am trying to eliminate a family from my direct line research, although suspect a link, and forgot to check the 1841 census. Looking for the head of household for - wife Ann STRICKLEY (or could be STICKLEY - it changes) aged about 28 and born in Kings Norton. She is a widow in 1851. There should be a son Joseph aged about 4, daughter Ann about 3, and daughter Elizabeth about 2 - children born in Birmingham. In 1851 the family are in Aston. Thank you Carol ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello list I was in contact with Gareth earlier this year, on the subject of ribbon-makers from Nuneaton in my EVERITT ancestry. For the record: ggmother Elizabeth Alice EVERITT b&d Nuneaton (1876-99) m William PIGGOTT (1867-1923) of Stamford Elizabeth's brother and sister: Thomas George (b1879 nr Stockport), Bertha Kate (b1882 Nuneaton) Elizabeth's parents: George EVERITT (b1847 Nuneaton, d?) and Sarah CROFTS (b Chilvers Coton c1845, d after 1901) George's sister: Elizabeth b Nuneaton (1845-1931) unmarried George's parents: John EVERITT (b&d Nuneaton, 1819-1848) and Catherine SAUNDERS (b&d Nuneaton, 1824-1900) John's siblings: Henry (1818-19), Charles (1821-23), Jane (b1824), William (1825-31), Henry (1829-81), James (b1831), George (1834-36) John's parents: Henry EVERITT (b ?Exhall, d Nuneaton, 1795-1875) and Elizabeth Keen (b Burton Hastings, Warwicks, 1792-1865) Henry's siblings: John (b1785), Henry (1791-3), William (b&d 1793) Henry's parents: John EVERITT (1758-1821) and Ann ALEXANDER (1758-1832) - gravestone in Nuneaton St Nicolas churchyard. John was the brother of Gareth's 3xgt grandfather Joseph. As with Gareth, I have relied heavily on the IGI for most of the pre-1800 ancestry, but am fairly confident of accuracy. John Riley Bourne, Lincs ----- Original Message ---- Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 02:24:44 +0200 From: "Gareth" <everitt@xs4all.nl> Subject: Re: [WAR] [EVERITT-UK] Everitts in Warwickshire To: <everitt-uk@rootsweb.com> Cc: WARWICK@rootsweb.com, s.everitt@ntlworld.com Message-ID: <000a01c7e909$d5841890$0100000a@D3Q5PK2J> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Steve My " lot " also come from Nuneaton, I think we mailed a few years ago but didn't have ( then ) any the same. I am a bit further as presumably are you, so I thought I would post the tree so far. There is me b Kennington 1954 Dad b Upham 1927 All born in Coventry -- Selina 1861, Sarah 1862, Ada 1869,Agnes 1872 William ( Grandfather ) 1873, Maud 1876 and James b 1880 London. Parents - William EVERITT and Maria KEENE. William from Nuneaton Maria from Coventry All born Nuneaton -- Sarah 1829, Ann 1831, William ( gr grandfather ) 1833, James 1837, Jane 1839, Maria 1842, Sarah 1847. Parents Joseph EVERITT and Maria FORD both from Nuneaton Born Nuneaton Joseph 1805 ( gr gr G )no siblings found as yet Parents Joseph EVERITT and Jane Jeffery both from Nuneaton Born Nuneaton John 1758, Ann 1762, Mary 1764, Thomas 1766, Joseph 1769 ( gr gr gr G ) Parents Joseph EVERITT and Sarah RAISON both from Nuneaton Born Nuneaton Joseph 1732 ( gr gr gr gr G ) no siblings as yet Parents John EVERITT and ??? Born Nuneaton John and Henry both 1709 Parents Henry EVERITT c 1680 and ??? Everything after 1800 confirmed in parish records, BMD, IGI, certificates etc. Before 1800 from IGI and other researchers of the same family - must plan a week in England to do some more research. On the above obviously much more info dates, husbands, wives etc etc by any connections drop me a line Cheers for now Gareth ----- Original Message ----- From: "s.everitt" <s.everitt@ntlworld.com> To: <everitt-uk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 3:16 PM Subject: [EVERITT-UK] Everitts in Warwickshire > Hi my name is Steve Everitt and i am researching Everits in Warwickshire > especially around the Nuneaton ,Atherstone area.Is there anyone else > looking at this .Look for forward to hearing from you > > steve
Hi Jesterrwolf Possible, but they got married 6 days before the christening. No idea how religious they were or how available shotguns were for angry fathers-in-law (to be) Cheers for now Gareth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jestrrwolf" <jester2652@yahoo.com> To: "Gareth" <everitt@xs4all.nl> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 5:05 AM Subject: Re: [WAR] [EVERITT-UK] Everitts in Warwickshire > Here is one sibling for Joseph b. 1805 > > William ch. 25 JUL 1790 Nuneaton , died 05 AUG 1790 >
Guys, There have been some wonderful people who have help[ed me here on this list. I can't do anything to help them (at the moment), but after a bit of thought, I thought that I would offer a look up service on Birth, Deaths and Marriages here in South Australia, I have the indexes available on my computer, so please feel free to ask for Births from 1842 to 1928, Marriages from 1842 to 1937 and deaths from 1842 to 1972. For those who don;t know South Australia was only settled in 1836 and is the only city NOT to have convicts, South Australia was seen a place of freedom - buts thats another story. Alan
Hi folks, sticking tongue firmly in cheek is an Aussie llokup the equivalent of that famous British ****up? regards to all Alf FANTHAM Kings Norton Alan Jones wrote: >Guys, > >There have been some wonderful people who have help[ed me here on this list. I can't do anything to help them (at the moment), but after a bit of thought, I thought that I would offer a look up service on Birth, Deaths and Marriages here in South Australia, I have the indexes available on my computer, so please feel free to ask for Births from 1842 to 1928, Marriages from 1842 to 1937 and deaths from 1842 to 1972. For those who don;t know South Australia was only settled in 1836 and is the only city NOT to have convicts, South Australia was seen a place of freedom - buts thats another story. > >Alan > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >
We had a power cut this morning so when it ended I quickly sent the email for a lookup and then had to go out. I've just returned to 7 replies! Unbelievable! Thank you all so much. Carol
The Warwickshire 1841 Census is OnLine at PPPs Anne Paling SHEFFIELD, U.K. OPC for Attleborough, WAR L&RFHS Member L 0243 NNWFHS Member 91 >From: JohnASaul@aol.com >To: WARWICK-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [WAR] 1841 look-up please >Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 03:42:09 EDT > >I am trying to eliminate a family from my direct line research, although >suspect a link, and forgot to check the 1841 census. > >Looking for the head of household for - wife Ann STRICKLEY (or could be >STICKLEY - it changes) aged about 28 and born in Kings Norton. She is a >widow in >1851. There should be a son Joseph aged about 4, daughter Ann about 3, >and >daughter Elizabeth about 2 - children born in Birmingham. In 1851 the >family >are in Aston. > >Thank you > >Carol > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message
I am trying to eliminate a family from my direct line research, although suspect a link, and forgot to check the 1841 census. Looking for the head of household for - wife Ann STRICKLEY (or could be STICKLEY - it changes) aged about 28 and born in Kings Norton. She is a widow in 1851. There should be a son Joseph aged about 4, daughter Ann about 3, and daughter Elizabeth about 2 - children born in Birmingham. In 1851 the family are in Aston. Thank you Carol
Hi Steve My " lot " also come from Nuneaton, I think we mailed a few years ago but didn't have ( then ) any the same. I am a bit further as presumably are you, so I thought I would post the tree so far. There is me b Kennington 1954 Dad b Upham 1927 All born in Coventry -- Selina 1861, Sarah 1862, Ada 1869,Agnes 1872 William ( Grandfather ) 1873, Maud 1876 and James b 1880 London. Parents - William EVERITT and Maria KEENE. William from Nuneaton Maria from Coventry All born Nuneaton -- Sarah 1829, Ann 1831, William ( gr grandfather ) 1833, James 1837, Jane 1839, Maria 1842, Sarah 1847. Parents Joseph EVERITT and Maria FORD both from Nuneaton Born Nuneaton Joseph 1805 ( gr gr G )no siblings found as yet Parents Joseph EVERITT and Jane Jeffery both from Nuneaton Born Nuneaton John 1758, Ann 1762, Mary 1764, Thomas 1766, Joseph 1769 ( gr gr gr G ) Parents Joseph EVERITT and Sarah RAISON both from Nuneaton Born Nuneaton Joseph 1732 ( gr gr gr gr G ) no siblings as yet Parents John EVERITT and ??? Born Nuneaton John and Henry both 1709 Parents Henry EVERITT c 1680 and ??? Everything after 1800 confirmed in parish records, BMD, IGI, certificates etc. Before 1800 from IGI and other researchers of the same family - must plan a week in England to do some more research. On the above obviously much more info dates, husbands, wives etc etc by any connections drop me a line Cheers for now Gareth ----- Original Message ----- From: "s.everitt" <s.everitt@ntlworld.com> To: <everitt-uk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 3:16 PM Subject: [EVERITT-UK] Everitts in Warwickshire > Hi my name is Steve Everitt and i am researching Everits in Warwickshire > especially around the Nuneaton ,Atherstone area.Is there anyone else > looking at this .Look for forward to hearing from you > > steve > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > EVERITT-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Robert, Ancestry's version of the full GRO Index does show the marriage of a William HOLDEN and a Lucy BENTLEY in the December qtr 1864 at Saddleworth reg district, volume 9a, page 375 as well as in their FreeBMD version. There is also the marriage of a Sarah HOLDEN in the same qtr at Saddleworth, same vol no and page 369. Have you obtained the marriage certificate of your John Thomas HOLDEN and if so what occupation does it show for his father William. This might make it easier to trace your John in earlier census records and clarify both his age and place of birth. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Holmes" <holmes@holmesr923.plus.com> To: <WARWICK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 9:57 AM Subject: [WAR] in pursuit of john thomas holden.More of a tale. > The amusing bit first: John Thomas Holden seems to have adjusted his age > to suit the current circumstances. he joins the Kings Royal Rifles in 1892 > aged 18 years and 10 months i.e. born about 1873 and born in B'ham. > Prior to this he served in the 3d Battalion Royal Warwicks which > apparently was a kind of national service battalion i.e.compulsory back > up for the regular army. In the 1911 census he is 31 i.e born1880. > On being called up in 1914 he is 29 and 8 months which fits the 1873/4 > date. > On marrying in 1914, he states his age to be 30 i.e.born 1884. Was he just > a rascal? > However, JTH is not born in B'ham between 1873 and 1884 it would seem > although he twice indicated he was born in Birmingham on his army papers. > Then again, > having discovered the names of his parents, a look up in the usual GRO > register indicates no marriage of his parents William Holden and a Lucy > at all , while Freebmd does show a marriage in Saddleworth in 1864 Dec So > how reliable of GRO records? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.8/973 - Release Date: 25/08/2007 > 17:00 > > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 18467 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len
Can someone give me the address please for research for Coventry,thank you. I have only the names and Coventry to go by.This is in 1926,would anyone think it could be possible to find them with only this information. Thank you.Maggie.
Hi, Would some SKS be going to the WRO or Coventry Library that could look up 2 records for me please? I'm looking for witnesses to the Marriage of William Dumbleton to Sarah Douse 1831 in Stivichal Warwickshire, and I'm looking for any info on a Thomas Hammond born 1790 Barston- mother Sarah Hammond. I'm looking to see if it says she was from OTP or he was illigimate. I cannot find a suitable Sarah Hammond around the period or area so I'm assuming she either came from somewhere else or she was a widow who didn't give the fathers name. There is a Joseph and Sarah Hammond marriage in Coventry in 1781 and 1788 who could be the parents and possibly Joseph died prior to Thomas' birth. Any help would be appreciated as I'm in the USA. Denise Genealogy - connecting family trees http://genfam.com/FAMILY/index2.html Join the Genfam Newsletter and get the lastest links, databases, events and more delivered to you every month. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow
Jacqui, If you haven't already tried them, you might find a knowledgeable contact through this site which covers the histor of various villages in the area, including Wolston. http://groups.msn.com/brandonvillage Happened to be looking for information recently about Wolston landowners myself. In 18th c they included Lord Leigh of Stoneleigh, Maj-Gen George Scott, and the Edge family of Strelley (Northants) alias the Webb family of Sherbourne, etc (Warks), but don't suppose that is much help for the period that interests you. MAR in France.
Very many thanks: I've emailed them!! Jacqui ----- Original Message ----- From: ramaix To: Jacqui Simkins ; Warwick Mailing List Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 1:13 PM Subject: re: [WAR] Wolston Grange Farm Jacqui, If you haven't already tried them, you might find a knowledgeable contact through this site which covers the histor of various villages in the area, including Wolston. http://groups.msn.com/brandonvillage Happened to be looking for information recently about Wolston landowners myself. In 18th c they included Lord Leigh of Stoneleigh, Maj-Gen George Scott, and the Edge family of Strelley (Northants) alias the Webb family of Sherbourne, etc (Warks), but don't suppose that is much help for the period that interests you. MAR in France. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.8/973 - Release Date: 25/08/2007 17:00
Hello List Please, does anyone know which estate owned Wolston Grange Farm 1890-1900...ish? In hope. Jacqui
Hello list I will be visiting my daughter in England in September and would like to look at the parish records for Nuneaton where my Petty ancestors were christened and married. Is there a local record office or library at Nuneaton where I can view the records? Or do I need to go to Warwick? Margot Crestani
Hello Margo and List Yes, it is 11th September for next research meeting of NNWFHS. In addition, there is a CD available to purchase with burials in the municipal cemeteries. Go to www.nnwfhs.org.uk and click on publications. The list of CD contents is at end of that page. You are welcome to come along on 11th September. The library holds a good range of local PRs on microfilm. You can use these any day at Nuneaton Library, and at the research evenings. If you come, enter via the side door at the library (stand at front facing main entrance, walk down the LEFT hand side; go in through first door and ring the bell). By all means ask for me and I will introduce you. HTH Jacqui ----- Original Message ----- From: A P L To: margo13@bigpond.com Cc: warwick@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [WAR] Parish Records Nuneaton & NW Family History Society hold Research Evenings on 2nd Tuesday of the month (11th September?) 7.30pm-9.30pm at the Library on Church Street. http://www.nnwfhs.org.uk/ If you are around let the Society know so that they can sort out PETTY records in advance? There are lots of PETTYs in Nuneaton!! Anne Paling SHEFFIELD, U.K. OPC for Attleborough, WAR L&RFHS Member L 0243 NNWFHS Member 91 >From: Alan Bromage <alan@bcs-ink.co.uk> >To: margot crestani <margo13@bigpond.com> >CC: warwick@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [WAR] Parish Records >Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 07:05:54 +0100 > >margot crestani wrote: > > Hello list > > > > I will be visiting my daughter in England in September and would like to >look at the parish records for Nuneaton where my Petty ancestors were >christened and married. Is there a local record office or library at >Nuneaton where I can view the records? Or do I need to go to Warwick? > > > > Margot Crestani >The main Nuneaton Library, in the town centre, has most of the local >Parish Registers on Microfilm, and a lot of other useful records but I >would recommend going on a weekday as the microfilm readers are usual in >high demand on saturdays. They also have one reader that allows you to >print copies of the records at 50p each. > >You can find out what records are held at the library's website at >http://library.warwickshire.gov.uk/ > >Alan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.8/973 - Release Date: 25/08/2007 17:00
The amusing bit first: John Thomas Holden seems to have adjusted his age to suit the current circumstances. he joins the Kings Royal Rifles in 1892 aged 18 years and 10 months i.e. born about 1873 and born in B'ham. Prior to this he served in the 3d Battalion Royal Warwicks which apparently was a kind of national service battalion i.e.compulsory back up for the regular army. In the 1911 census he is 31 i.e born1880. On being called up in 1914 he is 29 and 8 months which fits the 1873/4 date. On marrying in 1914, he states his age to be 30 i.e.born 1884. Was he just a rascal? However, JTH is not born in B'ham between 1873 and 1884 it would seem although he twice indicated he was born in Birmingham on his army papers. Then again, having discovered the names of his parents, a look up in the usual GRO register indicates no marriage of his parents William Holden and a Lucy at all , while Freebmd does show a marriage in Saddleworth in 1864 Dec So how reliable of GRO records?
Nuneaton & NW Family History Society hold Research Evenings on 2nd Tuesday of the month (11th September?) 7.30pm-9.30pm at the Library on Church Street. http://www.nnwfhs.org.uk/ If you are around let the Society know so that they can sort out PETTY records in advance? There are lots of PETTYs in Nuneaton!! Anne Paling SHEFFIELD, U.K. OPC for Attleborough, WAR L&RFHS Member L 0243 NNWFHS Member 91 >From: Alan Bromage <alan@bcs-ink.co.uk> >To: margot crestani <margo13@bigpond.com> >CC: warwick@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [WAR] Parish Records >Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 07:05:54 +0100 > >margot crestani wrote: > > Hello list > > > > I will be visiting my daughter in England in September and would like to >look at the parish records for Nuneaton where my Petty ancestors were >christened and married. Is there a local record office or library at >Nuneaton where I can view the records? Or do I need to go to Warwick? > > > > Margot Crestani >The main Nuneaton Library, in the town centre, has most of the local >Parish Registers on Microfilm, and a lot of other useful records but I >would recommend going on a weekday as the microfilm readers are usual in >high demand on saturdays. They also have one reader that allows you to >print copies of the records at 50p each. > >You can find out what records are held at the library's website at >http://library.warwickshire.gov.uk/ > >Alan