This idea has been put forward by David Franks Surnames research in a certain village - parish. (NOT a roll call ) I know that many people start researching a surname in a certain area and it gradually becomes a One Place Study. They may accumulate a large collection of records for that village/parish and have a wide knowledge of what, where, who etc. This information could be very useful for others - just knowing what is available to research and where to look for it could save much time and effort. As an example I have many pages photocopied from various parish registers which could provide clues for other people if I knew who was interested in the same church registers that I am. I have several PRs films to hand but have no idea who would be interested in them. Often people may be unaware that others are researching in the same area simply because they are not related to a particular surname, although it is possible that your ancestors lived next door to each other and some may have married into the family! I am always intrigued by the numbers of twins found in a certain parish and often wonder if the families were related! It would NOT be useful for us to include large towns -such as Birmingham Coventry etc -because the large "fluid" populations make this unmanageable. I will randomly select a certain village each week for us to concentrate on so if anyone is desperate to see their area listed or make suggestions or useful comments please email me OFF List. FORMAT - please keep within this guide so it does NOT become a Roll Call, Subject of email should be Village people - (place name) List of surnames (in UPPER case) and forenames you are interested in or researching . Approximate dates of residence in the village. Information that might be of use to others (keep it brief please) example of useful information Churchyard is now a car park- but I have photographs of the Headstones. contact Name and email Wendy Boland Warwick List Admin.
Good day all, my names in Leamington: MIDDLETON, John, c 1868 - 1897 MIDDLETON, John Layton, born in village 1873 POWERS, Maria, 1843 - c 1880 POWERS, John, 1815 - 1877 POWERS, Thomas, c 1810 - c 1851 I have an indenture dated 1871 for the transfer of a parcel of land between St George's Road and Scotland Place, part of Walton's Strawberry Gardens. The indenture includes the names John George HARRISON, Charles, William and Priscilla FREEMAN, and John DEATH amongst others. Would love to hear from anyone with connections. Neil
Hi Fellow Listers, I think that I have the right list, but because I have "lost" the posting, I can't be sure. I have looked in archives but I haven't spotted it there, either. One of our lady Listers was asking for anyone who had any connection to PEGG to get in touch. I meant to reply but obviously have been a bit too enthusiastic with the delete button! My mother's youngest first cousin, a GOODYER, had PEGG forebears from Bulkington. I do have some info on them, but could put the lister in touch with a direct descendant, who has info and photos that she has shared with me. Without checking, I know Henry GOODYER and family group are pictured with the old lady, who had been a PEGG. A wonderful group that showed the several generations. I am also connected through my Great -aunt Alice Watson, (nee Campbell), who married Henry----a second marriage for both. Please, if you see this can you contact me? Thankyou for reading this. Regards, Muriel. NZ.
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Thanks for all those who replied to my query, will keep looking. Peter from west aus.
For the Warwickshire list: Thomas Martin SPENCER, my gr-gr-grandfather, was born in Coventry in 1792; as a boy he lived in East London, then lived (as a young man) in Kelvedon, Essex, and then in several towns in Massachusetts (1816-1838), but he went back to England in 1838 and lived (and died) in Lincolnshire, in Bransby, a hamlet outside Sturton-by-Stow. His wife was Mary ROBINSON, who was born and raised in Wapping. They had 10 children, whose names I have. Mary Jane PHILLIPS
That William is about 140 years too far down the tree! He's one of the last generations remaining in the parish. I need 1590 location for William Wigan, his ancestor. However, these records show the continued pattern of dealing in land by the family. They were each called 'gentlemen' coming down from the Vicar William.
It's a pity you didn't make it to Warwick, because the Record Office's online catalogue shows several documents relating to the Wigan family. The link seems to be with Fenny Compton, but that's not far away from Bishop's Itchington. Anyone who is interested in documents of this kind should look at the Record Office's online catalogue, Warwickshire's Past Unlocked, link from the Online Parish Clerk's (OPC's) web page http://www.hunimex.com/warwick/opc/opc.html Typing in Wigan brings up five interesting documents. It could be worthwhile typing in variants of that name, like Wygan, etc. Another wonderful collection also with an online Catalogue (link also from the OPC page) is the Shakespeare Memorial Trust, which has a great collection of documents relating to the Stratford area and south Warwickshire. Typing Wigan in their catalogue brings up 28 hits, although I haven't looked at them to see if they are particularly relevant. Of course, having written that, one has to recognize that these documents are often not easy to read, mainly because of the handwriting, and for the very early documents those who don't have a grounding in latin will find that slows them down even more. It once took me five days at Warwick to work through one document, even though it was in Englsih, and there were still some parts of it that I still wasn't entirely sure about. One problem is that the Warwick Record Office will not, quite rightly, photocopy these old documents, and it's very difficult to get a satisfactory digital photograph of them. I expect the SMT have the same policy. David. Joy Robbins wrote: > I have been trying to figure out where the Wigan family lived in Bishop's Itchington for some 200 years beginning about 1590. The first was William Wigan (Vicar, b.c.1550-d. 1616) and then his son John (then each generation switched names back and forth between William and John). They seem to have died out by 1800. There must be deeds or lease records to show place of residence, but they have eluded me. > > I was in England last month on my way to Warwick when I fell in London and badly smashed an arm, so had to return to US for surgery on the 3rd day of a 12-day stay. My mission was to find those records and others on this branch of the family. Any help or suggestions will be so appreciated. Vicar William ended up at Offchurch where he died and is buried in the church, but they all resided in B. I. > > Joy Wiggin > Georgia USA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- DF Consultancy 10 Searle Street Cambridge CB4 3DB
The county is "full" of Wigan (etc) for centuries...and there is a reason for that (Surname goes back to Roman occupation era)...but because they all have the same given names (basically William, John, Edward, Thomas) it's difficult to track them and I am documenting them with land and church records. Vicar William was in Cheshire during his apprenticeship years and then appears in B. I./Offchurch for the last 20 odd years of his life where his issue are all born...and the eldest son of each generation remains. I just can't find the homestead. I was headed for the Warwick record office when I fell in London and regret the lost research more than the injury!! I don't like hiring researchers, but fear I must do so now! Thanks for the web site and I will check to see if it helps. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Franks ITC" <df10@cam.ac.uk> To: "Joy Robbins" <joy1982@alltel.net> Cc: <WARWICK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [WAR] Bishop's Itchington 17th c > It's a pity you didn't make it to Warwick, because the Record Office's > online catalogue shows several documents relating to the Wigan family. > The link seems to be with Fenny Compton, but that's not far away from > Bishop's Itchington. Anyone who is interested in documents of this kind > should look at the Record Office's online catalogue, Warwickshire's Past > Unlocked, link from the Online Parish Clerk's (OPC's) web page > > http://www.hunimex.com/warwick/opc/opc.html > > Typing in Wigan brings up five interesting documents. It could be > worthwhile typing in variants of that name, like Wygan, etc. > Another wonderful collection also with an online Catalogue (link also from > the OPC page) is the Shakespeare Memorial Trust, which has a great > collection of documents relating to the Stratford area and south > Warwickshire. Typing Wigan in their catalogue brings up 28 hits, although > I haven't looked at them to see if they are particularly relevant. > > Of course, having written that, one has to recognize that these documents > are often not easy to read, mainly because of the handwriting, and for the > very early documents those who don't have a grounding in latin will find > that slows them down even more. It once took me five days at Warwick to > work through one document, even though it was in Englsih, and there were > still some parts of it that I still wasn't entirely sure about. One > problem is that the Warwick Record Office will not, quite rightly, > photocopy these old documents, and it's very difficult to get a > satisfactory digital photograph of them. I expect the SMT have the same > policy. > > David. > > Joy Robbins wrote: >> I have been trying to figure out where the Wigan family lived in Bishop's >> Itchington for some 200 years beginning about 1590. The first was >> William Wigan (Vicar, b.c.1550-d. 1616) and then his son John (then each >> generation switched names back and forth between William and John). They >> seem to have died out by 1800. There must be deeds or lease records to >> show place of residence, but they have eluded me. >> I was in England last month on my way to Warwick when I fell in London >> and badly smashed an arm, so had to return to US for surgery on the 3rd >> day of a 12-day stay. My mission was to find those records and others on >> this branch of the family. Any help or suggestions will be so >> appreciated. Vicar William ended up at Offchurch where he died and is >> buried in the church, but they all resided in B. I. >> Joy Wiggin >> Georgia USA >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > -- > DF Consultancy > 10 Searle Street > Cambridge > CB4 3DB >
These Warwickshire folk married in Market Harborough, Leicestershire John YARDLEY of Coventry (Trinity), bachelor Mary NICHOLS otp, spinster 1757 26-Jun William JOHNSON of Birmingham (St John) WAR Ann WESTON otp, spinster 1781 5-Jun William CALLISON of Meriden WAR, bachelor Jane SIMONS otp, spinster 1781 4-Dec Richard TIBBITS of Wolfhampcourt WAR Anne SMITH of St Marys 1800 10-Feb Isham BAKER of Wllsbourn Hastings WAR, bachelor Ann HOLLOWAY otp 1803 17-Feb George SPROSTON of Stratford Upon Avon WAR Susannah MOSES otp 1812 21-Jul William IVENS of Coventry (St Michael), bachelor Mary Ann DOCKER otp, spinster 1813 11-Nov William LUCK of Clifton WAR Elizabeth DRIVER otp 1825 14-Jul Marilyn Ponting Details of various Northants indexes http://www.northants-familytree.net/ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca
>From the Northamptonshire Marriage Index Thomas WALTER of Balsall Heath nr Birmingham, full age, widower, factor, father Thomas, printer Eliza ILIFF otp, consent, spinster, father William, labourer 1861 26-Sep at Clipston Frederick FABLING of Wormleighton WAR, age 24, bachelor, farmer, father Thomas, farmer Martha Mary OLDACRE otp, age 27, spinster, father Matthew W. OLDACRE, farmer 1871 10-May at Clipston Enoch THOMPSON of Rugby, age 25, bachelor, carriage examiner, father James Isiah T., bricklayer Emily VIALS otp, age 22, spinster, father Thomas, labourer 1891 9-Jun at Clipston Edward John CHARLES of Warwick, full age, widower, maltster, father William, builder Fanny Alice MURRELL of 36 Park Rd, full age, spinster, father John, farmer 1889 9-Oct at Dallington St James Marilyn Ponting Details of various Northants indexes http://www.northants-familytree.net/ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca
Found in the various parish registers Baptisms Robert ISHAM son of Vere and Jane 1805 19-Nov at Broughton, Northants, born at Stretton on Dunsmore, Warwickshire, 1st Sept Mary Ann BLINCOE son of Thomas and Ann 1831 8-May at Farthingstone, Northants, of Stockton, carrier John Tom ROGERS son of Simon and Eliza 1869 7-Feb at Flore, Northants of Monks Kirby, Warwickshire, gardener Ellen Elizabeth JAMES son of William S amd Elizabeth Ann 1874 29-Mar at Walgrave, Northants of Rugby, engineer Burials Comfort SMITH dau of Nehemiah and Mary, buried, travellers of ye parish of Woolston co Warwick who died in ye parish of Stow, mear to ye sign of ye Angel (Lovels) in ye West Chester Road. 1798 4-Oct Heyford, Northants Mary ANDERSON of Princethorpe, Warwickshire age 2 1834 14-Jun at Great Brington Northants Elisabeth ACKLOM of Leamington, Warwickshire, widow of Richard esq of Wiseton Hall, Notts age 75 1840 25-Mar at Great Brington Northants Frances WYKES of Leamington, Warwickshire age 57 1848 3-Feb at Great Brington Northants Charles Jon MARRIOTT of Leamington, Warwickshire age 48 1846 7-Apr at Daventry Northants Ann JOHNSON of Rugby age 76 1880 1-Aug at Daventry Northants George Pleasant MARRIOTT of Leamington, Warwickshire age 85 1882 19-Jan at Daventry Northants Willm SMITH of Curthover, Warwickshire 1753 5-Dec at Kettering Northants Joseph GILBERT of Coventry 1747 6-Sep at Kettering Northants Thomas BROOKS of Leamington, Warwick age 75 1867 20-Apr at Pattishall Northants William GEORGE of Wolfhamcote 1792 7-Sep at Staverton Northants Sarjant ? THOMAS travelling to Coventry with a pass 1802 21-Mar at Passenham Northants Pickard, feel free to copy to your pink pages. Marilyn Ponting Details of various Northants indexes http://www.northants-familytree.net/ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca
I have been trying to figure out where the Wigan family lived in Bishop's Itchington for some 200 years beginning about 1590. The first was William Wigan (Vicar, b.c.1550-d. 1616) and then his son John (then each generation switched names back and forth between William and John). They seem to have died out by 1800. There must be deeds or lease records to show place of residence, but they have eluded me. I was in England last month on my way to Warwick when I fell in London and badly smashed an arm, so had to return to US for surgery on the 3rd day of a 12-day stay. My mission was to find those records and others on this branch of the family. Any help or suggestions will be so appreciated. Vicar William ended up at Offchurch where he died and is buried in the church, but they all resided in B. I. Joy Wiggin Georgia USA
I've recently emailed Warwickshire Record Office regarding my OSMOND family. I had found reference to them at A2A (Access2Archives) which said the records were held at WRO but I could not find the same ref. no's. at WRO on-line. I was told WRO had the documents but they had not yet been listed in their online catalogue. Also, as David said, not all docs. that I would like can be copied. You may want to do a more thorough search of A2A, below is what I found, hopefully the one you are looking for, Lynne. LUCY OF CHARLECOTE Catalogue Ref. L6 Creator(s): Lucy family of Charlecote, Warwickshire DOCUMENTS OF TITLE (including leases) Warwickshire: Alveston: Ham Meadow etc. Wellesbourne: [Francis family property] FILE [no title] - ref. L6/813 - date: 29 Sept. 1732 [from Scope and Content] Counterpart of mortgage from Thomas Nason, the elder, of Wellesbourne Mountford, gent., and Elizabeth, his wife, to William Wigan of Bishops Itchington, gent., of a messuage formerly erected by John Francis and lands called Cox close etc. (described) in Wellesbourne Mountford, to secure repayment of £520. FILE [no title] - ref. L6/815-6 - date: 28 and 29 March 1734 [from Scope and Content] Lease and release, the release being a conveyance from Thomas Nason, the elder, of Wellesbourne Mountford, gent., Elizabeth, his wife, and William Wigan of Bishops Itchington, gent., at the request of the said Thomas and Elizabeth Nason, to Thomas Venour of Wellesbourne Mountford, gent., of property as in L6/814. To find out more about the archives described below, contact Shakespeare Birthplace Trust Records Office DEEDS APPENDIX Catalogue Ref. ER 3 Miscellaneous Deeds and Papers - ref. ER 3/419-687 FILE - Miscellaneous Deeds and Papers - ref. ER 3/604 - date: 29 September 1732 [from Scope and Content] Conveyance from Thomas Nason the elder of Wellesbourne Mountford in the parish of Wellesbourne Hastings, gent., and Elizabeth his wife to William Wigan of Lower Itchington in the parish of Bishop's Itchington, gent., of lands and tenements at Wellesbourne Mountford.
wikipedia says (found using google.com) "Cosford is a tiny village and civil parish in the Rugby borough of Warwickshire, located a few miles north of Rugby. According to the 2001 census it has a population of 11 and a more recent estimate by Rugby Borough Council puts it at 13" It was included in the Parish of Newbold On Avon as was Long Lawford and Little Lawford for the 1841 and later census records. (I transcribed, checked or validated the 1841 & 61 & 91 for Cosford - and they are online) Most of the inhabitants of Cosford used Newbold on Avon church for baptisms marriages and burials Not sure how many people lived there in the earlier years but I doubt there were many dwellings there at any time. If you try a google search you may even find some photos! Cheers Wendy Hi list! Have been looking over the Register of Baptisms in the Parish of Newbold Upon Avon. Several members of my tree were listed from Cosford and Long Lawford. Batch Number! Where is Cosford? My tree members are all from Warwickshire. Even on the census from time to time they list Cosford. Just curious. Thanks Sandy
Hi Sandy, As Wendy has already pointed out, Cosford is in North East Warwickshire and generally listed with Newbold on Avon. You can find the parish listed on the "Online Parish Clerk" section of PPP with a map on http://www.hunimex.com/warwick/opc/maps/newbold_avon.jpg The main OPC page is on http://www.hunimex.com/warwick/opc/opc.html and my Pink Pages for Warwickshire are on: www.hunimex.com/warwick/index.html According to Hugh Wallis's IGI Batch numbers (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountryEngland.htm#PageTitle) the following are for Newbold On Avon C045621 1710-1876 M045621 1710-1876 C045622 1876-1885 M045622 1876-1895 Happy Hunting Pickard Trepess Nagykanizsa, Hungary - cold but sunny today. ----- Original Message ----- From: <ewing2544@bellsouth.net> To: <warwick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 6:17 AM Subject: [WAR] Cosford? > Hi list! Have been looking over the Register of Baptisms in the Parish > of Newbold Upon Avon. Several members of my tree were listed from > Cosford and Long Lawford. Batch Number! Where is Cosford? My > tree members are all from Warwickshire. Even on the census from > time to time they list Cosford. Just curious. Thanks Sandy > >
Hi Peter, There is this John SHAKESPEAR in the 1841 census of Duddeston & Nechells, Aston, Birmingham who is a Cordwainer, but no Susanna living with him: HO107/1149/11, folio 27, page 14 Francis St John SHAKESPEAR 60 Cordwainer Born in county yes Harriet do 20 F S yes There is also a John SHAKESPEAR in the 1851 census of Deritend & Bordesley, Aston (HO107/2060, folio 683, page 8) who is a Visitor, aged 70, widower in the household of Mary MAY a Marine Store Dealer at 12 Garrison Lane, but what is very interesting is that living at 15 Garrison Lane is a Nathan SHAKESPEAR, aged 57 and his wife Catharine who is a Shoe Maker. Both John & Nathan are shown as born in Henley in Arden. Food for thought??? There is an entry in the 1828/9 Pigot's Directory of Birmingham for a John SHAKESPEAR, Boot & Shoe Maker at Great Brook Street. Also one in the History & Directory of Birmingham 1849 in Aston for a John SHAKESPEAR, Shoe Maker, 137 Francis Street which ties in well with the 1841 census entry. He is still shown in Francis Street in the 1850 PO Directory of Birmingham as a Bootmaker. There are a lot of directories for Warwickshire online at www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/index.asp. The search engine is not the best, but if you search on location first and then the SHAKESPEAR name you should be able to follow him through (always assuming this is the correct John - but he is the only Cordwainer/Shoe Maker I have found). Hope this helps. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "peter heptinstall" <piheppy@bigpond.com> To: <WARWICK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 3:21 AM Subject: [WAR] shakespear > Hi, I am trying to find out about the family of Susannah Shakespear born > 1826 in Henley in Arden, her marriage cert. say's her father was John > Shakespear who was a boot and shoe maker. I have not been able to find a > Susannah born at that time with John as a father. Only a George who was > also a boot and shoe maker. > I have searched through the Henley church records that were supplied to me > by the local L.D.S. Hopefully someone will have some imfo that will help > me out here. > Regards Peter Heptinstall Western Australia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.12/1072 - Release Date: > 15/10/2007 17:55 > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 21970 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len
Hi Sandy I find Google Earth a great way to find how these villages relate to each other. If you already have Google Earth, start it up and type in Cosford. When it gets there, just zoom out a little and you will see the other villages. Cosford itself consists of three farms and a few houses. To get to it you have to go through an estate of warehouses. I can remember when that was all fields. Regards Bob Mawby Newbold (UK) On 16 Oct 2007 at 0:17, ewing2544@bellsouth.net wrote: > Hi list! Have been looking over the Register of Baptisms in the Parish of Newbold Upon Avon. Several members of my tree were listed from Cosford and Long Lawford. Batch Number! Where is Cosford? My tree members are all from Warwickshire. Even on the census from time to time they list Cosford. Just curious. Thanks Sandy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi, I am trying to find out about the family of Susannah Shakespear born 1826 in Henley in Arden, her marriage cert. say's her father was John Shakespear who was a boot and shoe maker. I have not been able to find a Susannah born at that time with John as a father. Only a George who was also a boot and shoe maker. I have searched through the Henley church records that were supplied to me by the local L.D.S. Hopefully someone will have some imfo that will help me out here. Regards Peter Heptinstall Western Australia
Thank you Alan and also Jane (who emailed me offlist) for reminding us about Project Gutenberg which has several books that could be useful to Warwickshire researchers. One example is 11416 Pye, Charles, 1777-1864 A Description of Modern Birmingham Whereunto Are Annexed Observations Made during an Excursion Round the Town, in the Summer of 1818, Including Warwick and Leamington. Please ensure that you abide by the Copyright Laws of your Country before downloading anything! However, as far as I can tell Project Gutenberg lacks google books detailed searching which allows you to search within a book for a word or phrase without having to dowload the whole thing and read it !!! This is great as Ann and I are way behind with the ironing as it is! Good hunting. Wendy