"Strays" are persons who were born within the County of Warwickshire with a reference recorded outside the County of birth. We are interested in collecting baptism/ marriage /burial/death records Position Vacant. Warwickshire Strays Coordinator We require a reliable person to collect Warwickshire Strays data and input the records to a spreadsheet for use online by researchers. It is hoped that Warwick List Members will send the strays records directly to the Organiser or post them to the Mailing List so he/she would not be expected to search for Strays. The Organiser may have to answer email requests for more information from the online index. Experience using EXCEL or spreadsheets preferred. The work is voluntary, ongoing but intermittent . The Marriage Strays database has approximately 300 entries to start off and these will be uploaded to the Pink Pages eventually. The web page will be updated by Pickard as more data is added. We have many records to input which have been collected from various sources we just can't find the time to do it ! If anyone would like further details or is happy to take on the work please email Off List . This position would suit a person who is willing to contribute and help others, has time to spare but does not have access to resources. Thank you Wendy Boland

I'm quite prepared to believe that this is Sheepy, but I don't agree about the crossing. The crossing on this page, as far as I can see from the image, occurs only where a t is plausible (apart from Sheepy, if it is Sheepy). It doesn't occur in any names that definitely do not have a t. And the second place name on this page has an r after what I think is a t, and so must be Austrey, not Ansley. The crossing could be a mark made by a clerk, but if so it's odd that it only occurs where a t is plausible. In the image that I am looking at (Ancestry) the 'crossing' in Leicestershire Sheepy does not appear to be continuous, but goes through the t of Leicestershire and does not appear to join up with the crossing over Sheepy. Also, two of the entries for Atherstone (three on this page) have the word Atherstone not in the where born column but in the last column (whether blind or deaf and dumb) because the enumerator has written Warwickshire so that if fills the whole of the where born column. (The third entry manages to fit Atherstone in the where born column as well as Warwickshire, and the crossing is there in the where born column.) If it was the mark of a clerk adding something up, it's odd that it doesn't always occur in the same column. The faint crossing of t also occurs in the name and relationship columns (mother, visitor). On this page the ts of the family name Garratt are crossed quite strongly, but the faint crossing of the t occurs in names on other pages. The previous page shows the same features, including the entry that I interpreted as Wales N Langothelyn (presumably Llangollen heard as such by the Grendon enumerator, and that has this form of faint crossing). However, it is possible that it is a clerk's mark, and I'm not sure that these esoteric ramblings are of much use to Normadiane in the pursuit of her (?) ancestor. David Paul Prescott wrote: > David, Norma: > > The second character of "Sheepy" isn't crossed. If you look carefully, > you will see that the apparent crossing is a fainter mark, probably put > there later by the clerk totalling things up, It continues well to the > left of "Sheepy", through "Leicestershire". Similar marks can be seen > lower down the page, through "Ansley" (hence not "Anstey" , nor > "Anstry") and through Atherstone". > > Sheepy is very close to Grindon, as are Ansley and Bad[d]esley. > > Regards > > Paul Prescott > > -- David Franks, Cambridge, England Researching Castle and Tallis, Warwickshire and Oxfordshire, and Thomas Castle, convict transported to Van Diemen’s Land Warwickshire Online Parish Clerks http://www.hunimex.com/warwick/opc/opc.html

David, Norma: The second character of "Sheepy" isn't crossed. If you look carefully, you will see that the apparent crossing is a fainter mark, probably put there later by the clerk totalling things up, It continues well to the left of "Sheepy", through "Leicestershire". Similar marks can be seen lower down the page, through "Ansley" (hence not "Anstey" , nor "Anstry") and through Atherstone". Sheepy is very close to Grindon, as are Ansley and Bad[d]esley. Regards Paul Prescott ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Franks ITC" <df10@cam.ac.uk> To: <NORMADIANE@aol.com> Cc: <warwick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [WAR] Badly written census entry > Following on from the Paul's mail reporting the 1851 LDS transcription > as Sheepy, I looked again at the image, and I could easily accept > Sheepy, that is, Sheepy Magna. I suppose, following common practice, he > would have referred to his birthplace just as Sheepy. > > The apparent crossing of the second character is a worry though. > However, if you can find John Deeming in the Sheepy Magna baptism > register, or a near parish, it will confirm it. > > David > > NORMADIANE@aol.com wrote: >> >> Hello Listers. >> >> Could I once again enlist your help in a census entry. >> >> The information I require is the birth place of John Deeming found on >> the >> 1851 at Grendon >> HO107; Piece: 2064; Folio: 164; Page: 3; GSU roll: 87323. >> >> The entries are >> John Deeming born 1775 Leicestershire and what has been transcribed as >> Stupy? >> Alice Deeming wife 1776 Austy Warwickshire which I think should be Ansty >> Ann Bell 1811 Baddesley. >> >> I know some of you are extremely good at reading these bad entries. Would >> someone please have a look and see what they make of the entries please, >> I would >> be very grateful >> >> Thanking you >> Norma >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > DF Consultancy > 10 Searle Street > Cambridge > CB4 3DB > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Ron, The shepherd at Hodnell was a DUCKETT. The household in Hodnell,1861, was--- DUCKETT Richard, head, marr, male, 70, shepherd born Southam War. DUCKETT Elizabeth, wife, marr, female, 54, shepherds wife, born Rowington, War DUCKETT Elizabeth, dau, u/marr, female, 25, domes servant, born Ladbrooke, War The village that John's wife came from was Farthinghoe. I rechecked with Genie, to make sure that I was correct.There is also, of course a Farthingstone and Fotheringhay in Northants. I have been looking around Hodnell's surrounding parishes and haven't come up with a young John at all. However there are several DUCKETT (T) families nearby and I will send these offline. They may be related to the above shepherd and/ or the missing John and his parents. I have to go out now, but I will get back to you , offline, later. Regards, Muriel.

Following on from the Paul's mail reporting the 1851 LDS transcription as Sheepy, I looked again at the image, and I could easily accept Sheepy, that is, Sheepy Magna. I suppose, following common practice, he would have referred to his birthplace just as Sheepy. The apparent crossing of the second character is a worry though. However, if you can find John Deeming in the Sheepy Magna baptism register, or a near parish, it will confirm it. David NORMADIANE@aol.com wrote: > > Hello Listers. > > Could I once again enlist your help in a census entry. > > The information I require is the birth place of John Deeming found on the > 1851 at Grendon > HO107; Piece: 2064; Folio: 164; Page: 3; GSU roll: 87323. > > The entries are > John Deeming born 1775 Leicestershire and what has been transcribed as Stupy? > Alice Deeming wife 1776 Austy Warwickshire which I think should be Ansty > Ann Bell 1811 Baddesley. > > I know some of you are extremely good at reading these bad entries. Would > someone please have a look and see what they make of the entries please, I would > be very grateful > > Thanking you > Norma > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- DF Consultancy 10 Searle Street Cambridge CB4 3DB

This word looks as though it has been altered, badly! I think the first two characters are St (see the t of Atherstone just below). Then there is a character that cannot even be guessed at, followed by two characters the first of which has a descending stroke and the second an ascending stroke, possibly pt or pl, and then possibly another character and the final character is y (see Anstey, Baddesley, etc., below). The letter with the ascending stroke might be b. The only parish in Leicestershire that begins with St and ends in y is Stonesby, which doesn't fit particularly well. It doesn't have to be a parish, of course, but Kain and Oliver 'Historic parishes of England and Wales' which, in spite of its name, lists hamlets and townships that are not parishes, does not have anything that fits in Leicestershire. When I get this problem I usually end up searching the baptismal register of the likely parishes, and I think if I didn't have any luck with Stonesby, I would try the other parishes starting with S and ending with y, of which, unfortunately, there are quite a number because of the frequency of the -by ending in that part of the world. They include Saxby, Saxelby, Shearsby, Shoby, Sileby, Somerby, and Sysonby besides Stonesby. Good luck! David NORMADIANE@aol.com wrote: > > Hello Listers. > > Could I once again enlist your help in a census entry. > > The information I require is the birth place of John Deeming found on the > 1851 at Grendon > HO107; Piece: 2064; Folio: 164; Page: 3; GSU roll: 87323. > > The entries are > John Deeming born 1775 Leicestershire and what has been transcribed as Stupy? > Alice Deeming wife 1776 Austy Warwickshire which I think should be Ansty > Ann Bell 1811 Baddesley. > > I know some of you are extremely good at reading these bad entries. Would > someone please have a look and see what they make of the entries please, I would > be very grateful > > Thanking you > Norma > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- David Franks, Cambridge, England Researching Castle and Tallis, Warwickshire and Oxfordshire, and Thomas Castle, convict transported to Van Diemen’s Land Warwickshire Online Parish Clerks http://www.hunimex.com/warwick/opc/opc.html

Norma: John DEEMING, Head, Mar, 76, Retired Coal Miner, Leicestershire Sheepy Alice DEEMING, Wife, Mar, 75, -, Warwickshire Ansley Ann BALL, Visitor, W, 40, Dress Maker, Warwickshire Badesley. The LDS Warwickshire 1851 census CD has a couple of mistakes in this transcription. Best wishes Paul Prescott ----- Original Message ----- From: <NORMADIANE@aol.com> To: <warwick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 11:18 AM Subject: [WAR] Badly written census entry > > Hello Listers. > > Could I once again enlist your help in a census entry. > > The information I require is the birth place of John Deeming found on the > 1851 at Grendon > HO107; Piece: 2064; Folio: 164; Page: 3; GSU roll: 87323. > > The entries are > John Deeming born 1775 Leicestershire and what has been transcribed as > Stupy? > Alice Deeming wife 1776 Austy Warwickshire which I think should be Ansty > Ann Bell 1811 Baddesley. > > I know some of you are extremely good at reading these bad entries. Would > someone please have a look and see what they make of the entries please, I > would > be very grateful > > Thanking you > Norma > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

For Warwickshire List Members, Thanks for all your help. Sorry that my query was too broad. I'm looking for the birth or christening of Thomas SPENCER, born in Coventry on November 10, 1792. His mother was Mary SPENCER (married name), born in Nottinghamshire on May 1, 1759. Again, my thanks, Mary Jane Phillips in New York City

Dear Listers Thank you so much to all the kind people who responded to my query about John Deeming. I knew you would do it, you have never let me down. Looking at the entry again I can see now that it could in all proberbility say Sheepy. I was stumped as I am not familiar with the area. Thank you all once again and keep up with the good work Regards Norma Clark

I wonder if it is worth mentioning to all those who despairingly look for ancestors who obstinately refuse to be found that before 1875 it was NOT the duty of parents to report a birth. Somehow the Registrar had the responsibility of tracing them and undertaking the registration ( source Birmingham Register Office -important dates in civil registration) bob holmes

MARY JANE - Hello!! The 1841 Census for Warwickshire in on line at http://www.freecen.org.uk/ and also on PPPs So you can check for yourself which SPENCERs were alive and well (?) on that day in Coventry. Anne Paling SHEFFIELD, U.K. > > > SPENCER FAMILIES IN COVENTRY 1775-1840. I've asked for this information > > before, but having lost all my old e-mails when my computer crashed last > > weekend, I'll ask it again. Were there any SPENCER families in Coventry >in > > the period 1775-1840? Many thanks, > > Mary Jane Phillips

Mary Can you be more specific - there were approximately 100 people named Spencer in the Coventry area for the 1841 census which families are you looking for? > SPENCER FAMILIES IN COVENTRY 1775-1840. I've asked for this information > before, but having lost all my old e-mails when my computer crashed last > weekend, I'll ask it again. Were there any SPENCER families in Coventry in > the period 1775-1840? Many thanks, > Mary Jane Phillips _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_oct ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Listers. Could I once again enlist your help in a census entry. The information I require is the birth place of John Deeming found on the 1851 at Grendon HO107; Piece: 2064; Folio: 164; Page: 3; GSU roll: 87323. The entries are John Deeming born 1775 Leicestershire and what has been transcribed as Stupy? Alice Deeming wife 1776 Austy Warwickshire which I think should be Ansty Ann Bell 1811 Baddesley. I know some of you are extremely good at reading these bad entries. Would someone please have a look and see what they make of the entries please, I would be very grateful Thanking you Norma

Your subject didn't relate to your question so I almost skipped it, but I do seem to recall your request for Spencers was a little more specific - something about bakers or such. I do have one Spencer family connected to Coventry in the time frame you mention: Mark b. 1811 in Foleshill, m. 1833 Sophia Horsfall b. 1815 in Coventry, children Louisa b. 1835, Thomas Henry b. 1837 and Mark b. 1838, all in Coventry. Parents of Mark Sr were William Spencer and Ann Woodhead. Mark Sr was a silkman / ribbon manufacturer in Coventry and had at least 8 siblings, also born in Foleshill. His brothers, William and Henry, were also ribbon manufacturers in Coventry and William married Sophia Horsfall's sister Mary Ann. Mark's brother David was a draper in Coventry. > SPENCER FAMILIES IN COVENTRY 1775-1840. I've asked for this information before, but having lost all my old e-mails when my computer crashed last weekend, I'll ask it again. Were there any SPENCER families in Coventry in the period 1775-1840? Many thanks, > Mary Jane Phillips _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts!  Play Star Shuffle:  the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_oct

Many thanks to all who replied to me.

Hi All, I've now scanned a painting of Chesterton Mill c 1900 , which I've sent to Pickard to add to www.hunimex.com/warwick/village_people_ufton.html Or I can send a jpeg file to anyone who's interested. Barb Stacey

I did the 1861 census transcription for that area and the address of the dwellings is Manor House Fields, Hodnell. There is a grazier's household of family and servants. He employed 8 men and 4 boys. Next is the dwelling of a shepherd and his wife, followed by a lodge inhabited by a carter and his household. .A final dwelling was unoccupied. This then is the tiny community of Hodnell, close to Ladbrooke and Chapel Ascote. Regards, Muriel

Hi Fellow Listers, I have just been renewing my acquaintance with Rob Orland's website, "Historic Coventry". I find that he has been very busy in the interim and that it has grown emormously. For those that don't know it, it is in my estimation quite unique in being user-friendly, interactive, colourful and informative. Once browsing it is hard to stop---and you learn in such a pleasurable way! As Eagle Street and the devastation of that area had been mooted recently, I thought that some of the older ones amongst us especially, would be interested to know that Rob has added a section on the Blitz. It is unlike any account that I have previously read and is particularly evocative, with its before and after photos. There is an account of the raid itself and the aftermath. The photgraphs are the finest that I have seen It is truly an experience. Some of you, like me, have memories of that time, but I found that my understanding of the events is now greatly enhanced. There is also a section on the reconstruction plans of that time, when a fat booklet was produced. Rob's text and photos make my recall vivid, as I was the proud possesor of copy and had joined in with the general excitement and exhileration it engendered. The Now and Then section with it's interactive properties is clever! One shot, of the devastation viewed from above I feel sure is the same as that we gazed upon when we climbed the cathedal tower---which we did often, and when we had paid our dues, ascended with only a caution, "to take care". We didn't need that reminder as the ancient spiral stairs were warning enough! Joe, have you seen the photo of the Old Grammar School? A lovely study. And for my money the full facade of the Council house takes some beating. It isn't all "old" and there is plenty about the new. Mistakes have been made---and are still taking place, but there is much to admire, and as the process is ongoing perhaps the errors will cancel out in time, when their turn comes to be replaced. The Memories are worth a read. I have one there, but Rob has added more to his collection. With their photos they are a record of our youth, a time that is now in the past. You may have no connections to Coventry, but if you want to be both entertained and informed you can't do better than to log on for a session. You won't be disappointed. Regards, Muriel

Hi All, I have put a copy of Fred Whitehead's painting of Ufton Church on PPP for the week. Kindly donated by Barb Stacey. I believe the painting to be out of copyright, as it was published in 1906, and if not, it is only a small sample from the book, so I believe that this can be classed as a review of the book, and thus a percentage can be published. It is indexed from the main PPP index on www.hunimex.com/warwick/index.html or directly on: www.hunimex.com/warwick/village_people_ufton.html It will be changed for a different image of a village church if we have one available for next week's Village People Great idea for a thread Wendy ! Happy Hunting Pickard

Hi All, I have just come across the following website on Coventry - by Rob Orland - it is new to me, so I thought I would post it on the list for others to enjoy too. http://www.historiccoventry.co.uk/main/main.php Happy Hunting Pickard Trepess Nagykanizsa, Hungary