Can anyone help with some more recent history? I have a very elusive grandfather who was born in London and is shown in the 1901 census as a cyclemaker aged 24 Its a long involved story of at least two marriages if not three and his last wife after his death being estranged from his family My motivation for the request is that he and his first/second wife Emily G L nee KEMPSON have the birth of two daughters Elizabeth and Violet registered in Aston This wife appears to have died in 1914 in Staines, Bucks Does anyone have access to a relevant Trade Directory for this period who could please check to see if he ran a business in the Aston area and if so where the premises were. I am a little unwilling to purchase certs at the moment but realise that that may very well be my only way forward. Any help and ideas most welcome Maisie

Hi All, With many thanks to Wendy "the magnificent" I have just posted the transcription for Birmingham St George Piece number RG09-2158 You will find the link to this in the usual place - www.hunimex.com/warwick/freecens/1861/index_1861.html Note however that I have moved the actual data to hunimex.net but this ought to be transparent to all - the surname indexes are still posted in the normal place, so that search engines will find the names and then these link to the new location At the same time, I noted several broken links, some dating back over 1 year, so I wonder why they were not spotted sooner ! - there are well over 7000 searches to the FreeCEN data on PPP each week Please let me know if you have problems accessing the data Happy Hunting Pickard Trepess from a snowy Nagykanizsa, Hungary brrrrrrr

St Edburgha Yardley and Marston Chapel records are in Brum, but where Marston Green is I know not regards Alf FANTHAM Jacqui Simkins wrote: >Thank you Gus, > >What a detailed explanation! This shows just how complex some of the places in Warwickshire (the geographical place) are, especially when we come to try and find records for our forebears. > >With regard to the ecclesiastical records for Marston Green: they do not fall within the publicised remit for the Birmingham Archives (the place is not within the city boundary); they *should* be in Birmingham Local Studies (they do not have a list on-line, but imply they have most PRs on film for the Birmingham area). Warwickshire RO has them post-1911 and notes on its on-line catalogue that there are many baptisms for children in Marston Green Homes. > >However, my edition of the Phillimore Atlas (1995) lists Yardley original registers as being deposited at Birmingham Reference Library (period 1539-1969). > >HTH > >Jacqui > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gus Tysoe > To: warwick@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 12:28 PM > Subject: Re: [WAR] This week's villages-The Marstons - Marston Green > > > "Marston Green" is a difficult and tangled one... For it's not (Civilly) an > Official Place, but more a "Location" - being no more than "once a part of > the former Parish of Yardley". > > > Ecclesiastically, it's even more complex, and its history is messy. > > Built 1702-3 as 'MARSTON CHAPEL' - "under the authority of a Private Act of > Parliament ... in the Parish of Yardley" [per the 1851 Ecclesiastical > Census], it remained a Chapel of Yardley until 1907, when it was created a > separate Ecclesiastical Parish as "HALL GREEN" [although it may have stayed > as "Marston Chapel"] [VCH, WOR, III, 378] - but by the 1950s had become > known as "MARSTON GREEN". > > Which all sounds pretty simple and straightforward - but don't you believe > THAT !!! For you need to look at the Mother Parish of Yardley to get the > full story... > > Yardley (Ecclesiastically) was in WORCESTER Diocese - Worcester Archdeaconry > to 1892; Birmingham Archdeaconry 1892-1905 (while at Rural Deanery level it > was in Kidderminster to 1880; and Northfield 1880-1905). > In 1905 Worcester Diocese was divided, and the whole of Birmingham > Archdeaconry was transferred to the newly-created BIRMINGHAM Diocese; > Northfield Rural Deanery was abolished; and Yardley was placed in Solihull > Rural Deanery. > In 1906 Birmingham Archdeaconry was divided and Solihull Rural Deanery > (among others) was transferred to the newly-created Aston Archdeanery. > [In 1907 "Hall Green" was created as a new Ecclesiastical Parish, within > Solihull Rural Deanery.] > In 1918 COVENTRY Diocese was created (but didn't "acquire" Solihull Rural > Deanery) so Marston Green [and Yardley] remained in BIRMINGHAM Diocese - > where (it would seem) they still are, although since 1957 they've been in > Yardley Rural Deanery... > > As to where its (early) Registers are kept, the logical place for them would > be in Birmingham Central Library - but whether you have to look at the > originals or if they've been filmed I don't know. Nor do I know how far back > any such registers might extend - it's entirely possible that all their > pre-1907 transactions were incorporated within Yardley's Registers. > > > Yardley (Civilly) was in WOR until 31 Dec 1911, when it was transferred to > Birmingham County Borough ("associated with" WAR). The Burghers of Brum - > entranced by their New Acquisition - abolished it the very next day...... > > > Gus > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.32/1131 - Release Date: 14/11/2007 16:54 > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >

Hi folks, indeed as Gus says its pretty convoluted - Marston Green is not within the old parish boundary of Marston Chapel, being some 4 or 5 miles away Oh what a tangled web we weave regards Alf FANTHAM Kings Norton(now in West Mids once in Warwickshire and previously in Worcestershire) Gus Tysoe wrote: >"Marston Green" is a difficult and tangled one... For it's not (Civilly) an >Official Place, but more a "Location" - being no more than "once a part of >the former Parish of Yardley". > > >Ecclesiastically, it's even more complex, and its history is messy. > >Built 1702-3 as 'MARSTON CHAPEL' - "under the authority of a Private Act of >Parliament ... in the Parish of Yardley" [per the 1851 Ecclesiastical >Census], it remained a Chapel of Yardley until 1907, when it was created a >separate Ecclesiastical Parish as "HALL GREEN" [although it may have stayed >as "Marston Chapel"] [VCH, WOR, III, 378] - but by the 1950s had become >known as "MARSTON GREEN". > >Which all sounds pretty simple and straightforward - but don't you believe >THAT !!! For you need to look at the Mother Parish of Yardley to get the >full story... > >Yardley (Ecclesiastically) was in WORCESTER Diocese - Worcester Archdeaconry >to 1892; Birmingham Archdeaconry 1892-1905 (while at Rural Deanery level it >was in Kidderminster to 1880; and Northfield 1880-1905). > In 1905 Worcester Diocese was divided, and the whole of Birmingham >Archdeaconry was transferred to the newly-created BIRMINGHAM Diocese; >Northfield Rural Deanery was abolished; and Yardley was placed in Solihull >Rural Deanery. > In 1906 Birmingham Archdeaconry was divided and Solihull Rural Deanery >(among others) was transferred to the newly-created Aston Archdeanery. > [In 1907 "Hall Green" was created as a new Ecclesiastical Parish, within >Solihull Rural Deanery.] > In 1918 COVENTRY Diocese was created (but didn't "acquire" Solihull Rural >Deanery) so Marston Green [and Yardley] remained in BIRMINGHAM Diocese - >where (it would seem) they still are, although since 1957 they've been in >Yardley Rural Deanery... > >As to where its (early) Registers are kept, the logical place for them would >be in Birmingham Central Library - but whether you have to look at the >originals or if they've been filmed I don't know. Nor do I know how far back >any such registers might extend - it's entirely possible that all their >pre-1907 transactions were incorporated within Yardley's Registers. > > >Yardley (Civilly) was in WOR until 31 Dec 1911, when it was transferred to >Birmingham County Borough ("associated with" WAR). The Burghers of Brum - >entranced by their New Acquisition - abolished it the very next day...... > > >Gus > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >

Hi All, I have just updated the Village People Marstons page on PPP to give links to Warwickshire villages and some more sketches etc. I found online. These now open in a new window to avoid losing the Marstons page. Its on www.hunimex.com/warwick/VP_Marstons.html Happy Hunting Pickard

This came to me, perhaps someone may be able to connect with the Allingtons Happy Hunting Pickard ----- Original Message ----- From: VILATE To: Pink_Pages@hunimex.com Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 2:11 PM Subject: Allington-births, deaths, marriages/Fenny Compton, Warwiickshire Allingtons, 1700-1800 for Vilate Allington, Jensen vajensen@xmission.com My fifth great-grandfather 180 No. 1100 East #194 Washington City, Utah 84780 USA Father of Thomas Allington md. Mary Maycock in Warwickshire -- Fenny Compton, or Birmingham Any descndents or aancestors, Please

Two strands meet - a few days ago, John Baylis told us about the grave of William George Stretton that he had found in Australia . According to the 1851 census, William was living with his family at 107 Wood Lane, Aston. His father was Thomas Stretton, a chemist, was born in Yardley, Worcester in about 1801. Small world. SUE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter R Thompson" <peter@collybs.com> To: <warwick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [WAR] This week's villages-The Marstons - Marston Green > As the On-Line parish clerk for Bickenhill I would like to clear up some > confusion about Marston Green (part of Bickenhill Parish & Job Marston > (part > of Yardley Parish). > > Marston Green never has been part of Yardley parish and is historically > part > of Bickenhill Parish. Job Marston was the name of a chapel in Yardley > named > after its benefactor. This chapel later became Hall Green Parish Church.. > > Marston Culy & Wavers Marston were the two manors that formed Marston > Green, > both were part of Bickenhill Parish > (at least from medieval times) and have never been part of Yardley. (see > "Discovering Bickenhill" by Skipp & Hastings) - Parts of what became > Marston Green were in Sheldon & Coleshill parishes. Marston Green became > an > ecclesiastical parish in 1928. > > > Lewis 1838 directory describes the two Marstons as follows > > MARSTON, a quarter in the parish of CHURCH BICKENHILL, > Solihull division of the hundred of HEMLINGFORD, > county of WARWICK, miles (S. S. W.) > from Coleshill. The population is returned with the > parish. > > MARSTON, a chapelry in the parish of YARDLEY, > lower division of the hundred of PERSHORE, though > locally in the upper division of the hundred of Halfshire, > county of WORCESTER, 4| miles (S. E.) from > Birmingham. The population is returned with the > parish. The living is a donative. The chapel was > erected in 1704, by Job Marston, Esq. > > The BMSGH give the following as the origin of Hall Green > > HALL GREEN - The Ascension > (also known as Job Marston Chapel and also Hall Green Parish Church) > Fox Hollies Road/School Road (O.S. GR SP1081) > Daughter Parish of Yardley 1907 > Built 1703 > Parts of parish assigned to St Mary's Acocks Green and to St John > Sparkhill > 1907 > Neighbouring parishes > Castle Bromwich, Sheldon, Yardley, Bordesley, Aston > Gazetteer/Directory entries > Hall Green, eccl. dist. and ry. sta., G.W.R., in Birmingham, 4 m S.E. of > Snow Hill station; P.O.; dist., pop. 3459. [Bartholomew 1943] > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Further to my last, I deliberately omitted the following as that was becoming Too Complicated - for there is a further twist to the tail/tale... Which twist is the *OTHER* Marston Green... Also no more than an Ecclesiastical Parish, created in 1939 out of parts of the (Ecclesiastical) Parishes of Sheldon and Coleshill - which again is where a minor Complication Arises :-( In 1939, Coleshill was BIRMINGHAM Diocese; Aston Archdeaconry; Sutton Coldfield Rural Deanery; and Sheldon was BIRMINGHAM Diocese; Aston Archdeaconry; Solihull Rural Deanery I don't know which Rural Deanery the new Parish was allocated to, but in 1957 it was transferred to [what would seem to be] a 'new' Coleshill R D... In 1957 Tile Cross was created out of a part of it; and in 1972 it lost a further portion towards the creation of Chelmsley Wood. And, like the "other one", I would expect its Registers to've been deposited with at Birmingham central Library. The whole thing is a Mess - and I'm left with a Lingering Suspicion that at least some of the undoubted confusion *may* be down to a misunderstanding by Frederic A YOUNGS, Jr in his Guide to the Local Administrative Units of England [Vol 2; 1991] whould could have conflated the two neighbouring "Marstons"..... Gus

As the On-Line parish clerk for Bickenhill I would like to clear up some confusion about Marston Green (part of Bickenhill Parish & Job Marston (part of Yardley Parish). Marston Green never has been part of Yardley parish and is historically part of Bickenhill Parish. Job Marston was the name of a chapel in Yardley named after its benefactor. This chapel later became Hall Green Parish Church.. Marston Culy & Wavers Marston were the two manors that formed Marston Green, both were part of Bickenhill Parish (at least from medieval times) and have never been part of Yardley. (see "Discovering Bickenhill" by Skipp & Hastings) - Parts of what became Marston Green were in Sheldon & Coleshill parishes. Marston Green became an ecclesiastical parish in 1928. Lewis 1838 directory describes the two Marstons as follows MARSTON, a quarter in the parish of CHURCH BICKENHILL, Solihull division of the hundred of HEMLINGFORD, county of WARWICK, miles (S. S. W.) from Coleshill. The population is returned with the parish. MARSTON, a chapelry in the parish of YARDLEY, lower division of the hundred of PERSHORE, though locally in the upper division of the hundred of Halfshire, county of WORCESTER, 4| miles (S. E.) from Birmingham. The population is returned with the parish. The living is a donative. The chapel was erected in 1704, by Job Marston, Esq. The BMSGH give the following as the origin of Hall Green HALL GREEN - The Ascension (also known as Job Marston Chapel and also Hall Green Parish Church) Fox Hollies Road/School Road (O.S. GR SP1081) Daughter Parish of Yardley 1907 Built 1703 Parts of parish assigned to St Mary's Acocks Green and to St John Sparkhill 1907 Neighbouring parishes Castle Bromwich, Sheldon, Yardley, Bordesley, Aston Gazetteer/Directory entries Hall Green, eccl. dist. and ry. sta., G.W.R., in Birmingham, 4 m S.E. of Snow Hill station; P.O.; dist., pop. 3459. [Bartholomew 1943]

Thank you Gus, What a detailed explanation! This shows just how complex some of the places in Warwickshire (the geographical place) are, especially when we come to try and find records for our forebears. With regard to the ecclesiastical records for Marston Green: they do not fall within the publicised remit for the Birmingham Archives (the place is not within the city boundary); they *should* be in Birmingham Local Studies (they do not have a list on-line, but imply they have most PRs on film for the Birmingham area). Warwickshire RO has them post-1911 and notes on its on-line catalogue that there are many baptisms for children in Marston Green Homes. However, my edition of the Phillimore Atlas (1995) lists Yardley original registers as being deposited at Birmingham Reference Library (period 1539-1969). HTH Jacqui ----- Original Message ----- From: Gus Tysoe To: warwick@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [WAR] This week's villages-The Marstons - Marston Green "Marston Green" is a difficult and tangled one... For it's not (Civilly) an Official Place, but more a "Location" - being no more than "once a part of the former Parish of Yardley". Ecclesiastically, it's even more complex, and its history is messy. Built 1702-3 as 'MARSTON CHAPEL' - "under the authority of a Private Act of Parliament ... in the Parish of Yardley" [per the 1851 Ecclesiastical Census], it remained a Chapel of Yardley until 1907, when it was created a separate Ecclesiastical Parish as "HALL GREEN" [although it may have stayed as "Marston Chapel"] [VCH, WOR, III, 378] - but by the 1950s had become known as "MARSTON GREEN". Which all sounds pretty simple and straightforward - but don't you believe THAT !!! For you need to look at the Mother Parish of Yardley to get the full story... Yardley (Ecclesiastically) was in WORCESTER Diocese - Worcester Archdeaconry to 1892; Birmingham Archdeaconry 1892-1905 (while at Rural Deanery level it was in Kidderminster to 1880; and Northfield 1880-1905). In 1905 Worcester Diocese was divided, and the whole of Birmingham Archdeaconry was transferred to the newly-created BIRMINGHAM Diocese; Northfield Rural Deanery was abolished; and Yardley was placed in Solihull Rural Deanery. In 1906 Birmingham Archdeaconry was divided and Solihull Rural Deanery (among others) was transferred to the newly-created Aston Archdeanery. [In 1907 "Hall Green" was created as a new Ecclesiastical Parish, within Solihull Rural Deanery.] In 1918 COVENTRY Diocese was created (but didn't "acquire" Solihull Rural Deanery) so Marston Green [and Yardley] remained in BIRMINGHAM Diocese - where (it would seem) they still are, although since 1957 they've been in Yardley Rural Deanery... As to where its (early) Registers are kept, the logical place for them would be in Birmingham Central Library - but whether you have to look at the originals or if they've been filmed I don't know. Nor do I know how far back any such registers might extend - it's entirely possible that all their pre-1907 transactions were incorporated within Yardley's Registers. Yardley (Civilly) was in WOR until 31 Dec 1911, when it was transferred to Birmingham County Borough ("associated with" WAR). The Burghers of Brum - entranced by their New Acquisition - abolished it the very next day...... Gus ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.32/1131 - Release Date: 14/11/2007 16:54

"Marston Green" is a difficult and tangled one... For it's not (Civilly) an Official Place, but more a "Location" - being no more than "once a part of the former Parish of Yardley". Ecclesiastically, it's even more complex, and its history is messy. Built 1702-3 as 'MARSTON CHAPEL' - "under the authority of a Private Act of Parliament ... in the Parish of Yardley" [per the 1851 Ecclesiastical Census], it remained a Chapel of Yardley until 1907, when it was created a separate Ecclesiastical Parish as "HALL GREEN" [although it may have stayed as "Marston Chapel"] [VCH, WOR, III, 378] - but by the 1950s had become known as "MARSTON GREEN". Which all sounds pretty simple and straightforward - but don't you believe THAT !!! For you need to look at the Mother Parish of Yardley to get the full story... Yardley (Ecclesiastically) was in WORCESTER Diocese - Worcester Archdeaconry to 1892; Birmingham Archdeaconry 1892-1905 (while at Rural Deanery level it was in Kidderminster to 1880; and Northfield 1880-1905). In 1905 Worcester Diocese was divided, and the whole of Birmingham Archdeaconry was transferred to the newly-created BIRMINGHAM Diocese; Northfield Rural Deanery was abolished; and Yardley was placed in Solihull Rural Deanery. In 1906 Birmingham Archdeaconry was divided and Solihull Rural Deanery (among others) was transferred to the newly-created Aston Archdeanery. [In 1907 "Hall Green" was created as a new Ecclesiastical Parish, within Solihull Rural Deanery.] In 1918 COVENTRY Diocese was created (but didn't "acquire" Solihull Rural Deanery) so Marston Green [and Yardley] remained in BIRMINGHAM Diocese - where (it would seem) they still are, although since 1957 they've been in Yardley Rural Deanery... As to where its (early) Registers are kept, the logical place for them would be in Birmingham Central Library - but whether you have to look at the originals or if they've been filmed I don't know. Nor do I know how far back any such registers might extend - it's entirely possible that all their pre-1907 transactions were incorporated within Yardley's Registers. Yardley (Civilly) was in WOR until 31 Dec 1911, when it was transferred to Birmingham County Borough ("associated with" WAR). The Burghers of Brum - entranced by their New Acquisition - abolished it the very next day...... Gus

Enice, There is a will for a William BLOXHAM of Burton Dassett, Grazier, dated 5 January 1767, plus 2 LEDBROOK wills on The National Archives Documents Online site (www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/) which may be relevant to you. Each will costs £3.50 to download. A2A (www.a2a.org.uk/default.asp) is also another site you can search online and contains quite a lot of information about people in Warwickshire. I had a quick look and there is mention of a Richard BLOXHAM in Burton Dassett in 1759 which again could be relevant to you. Family History Online (www.familyhistoryonline.net/) is another pay-per-view site (but very reasonably priced) which holds information on Warwickshire plus most other counties. HTH. Janet > I am trying to help a friend with his BLOXHAM ancestors, who came from > Burton Dassett (mostly Knightcote). They were farmers and included John, > Samuel and Thomas BLOXHAM. They were the sons of Richard BLOXHAM and > Elizabeth LEDBROOK, who were married at BD in 1837. > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 23788 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Hello Eunice, You may find Pickard's Pink Pages on Warwickshire family and local history useful (at http://www.hunimex.com/warwick/index.html), and also the Warwickshire Online Parish Clerks pages (at http://www.hunimex.com/warwick/opc/opc.html). Unfortunately there is no OPC for Burton Dassett, nor do there appear to be any online data, except for an index of the names on the MI fiche sold by the Birmingham and Midland Society of Genealogy and Heraldry. The IGI, however, is supposed to be complete for baptisms (probably up to 1837), and also for marriages, except for a gap between 1685 and 1694. Best wishes David David Franks Researching Castle and Tallis in Warwickshire and Oxfordshire, and Thomas Castle, convict transported to Tasmania in 1841 Warwickshire Online Parish Clerks http://www.hunimex.com/warwick/opc/opc.html Eunice Cubbage wrote: > Hi, > > This is my first foray into Warwickshire, although I have been > researching my family history for a long time now. > > I am trying to help a friend with his BLOXHAM ancestors, who came from > Burton Dassett (mostly Knightcote). They were farmers and included John, > Samuel and Thomas BLOXHAM. They were the sons of Richard BLOXHAM and > Elizabeth LEDBROOK, who were married at BD in 1837. > > Samuel and Thomas married 2 sisters, Lucy & Phoebe GURDEN. The Gurdens > originally came from Marston in Oxford, but moved to Burton Dassett and took > various family members with them ! Lucy's marriage to Samuel was her second, > her first husband, William Seney YARDLEY died after they'd only been married > a few years. > > I'm hoping someone on the Warwickshire list might be able to help me with > these families, I know nothing about Warwickshire research, and would > appreciate some advice about whather they are any Warwickshire resources > available for searching online. I have an Ancestry subscription, so censuses > are not a ptoblem, but if there are any Church records available online, I'd > love to know about it. > > Thanks for reading ! > > Eunice > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, This is my first foray into Warwickshire, although I have been researching my family history for a long time now. I am trying to help a friend with his BLOXHAM ancestors, who came from Burton Dassett (mostly Knightcote). They were farmers and included John, Samuel and Thomas BLOXHAM. They were the sons of Richard BLOXHAM and Elizabeth LEDBROOK, who were married at BD in 1837. Samuel and Thomas married 2 sisters, Lucy & Phoebe GURDEN. The Gurdens originally came from Marston in Oxford, but moved to Burton Dassett and took various family members with them ! Lucy's marriage to Samuel was her second, her first husband, William Seney YARDLEY died after they'd only been married a few years. I'm hoping someone on the Warwickshire list might be able to help me with these families, I know nothing about Warwickshire research, and would appreciate some advice about whather they are any Warwickshire resources available for searching online. I have an Ancestry subscription, so censuses are not a ptoblem, but if there are any Church records available online, I'd love to know about it. Thanks for reading ! Eunice

Hi Warwick listers , I sent this out before and got a very helpful , knowledgible reply from Ken . I did'nt recieve any other reply and think I sent it wrongly , I'm sending it forwarded again because I think it will be a bonus for some STRETTON descendants . Regards John Baylis ----- Original Message ----- From: John Baylis To: WARWICK@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 3:33 PM Hi listers , I'm an old guy , Cheshire born , Lancashire bred , now an Aussie in Darwin , Northern Territory of Australia . My fathers roots were in Aston Warwickshire . I will be asking for help from someone there later , but first I'd like to show my colours and share what can only be a treasure to whomever it relates to . Many years ago , I took my wife and daughter to visit friends in the aboriginal community of Oenpelli . Whilst we were walking through the bush , we stumbled across three graves , two with headstones and obviously important enough to warrant the import of quality headstones and one a simple wooden cross with an aboriginals name and a date . This was of interest to me and I took photos of the three gravesites . Twenty odd years later I started to research my family roots and joined the NT Geneological Society , I gave these gravesite photos to the society , and they thanked me by letter and also gave me the information they had on one of the headstones . As the NT was a frontier even when I took residence there in 1952 , they established their own ' pioneer list ' of notables . One of the headstones referred to a pioneer on the list , and they kindly forwarded me a copy . Idly glancing through it , I was amazed to see he was born in Aston Warwickshire where my grandfather was born . As I said , I will shortly be asking for help to find my roots but for now I will just put this information out on the list . Regards Frederick John Baylis ( grandson of Frederick Alexander Baylis and Amy Emily Sheppard ) The gentleman referred to is : STRETTON William George Age 72 years DOB 1847-02-01 born Aston Warwickshire Eng died 1919-11-29 Monument inscription In memory of ...Our dear father ...William George STRETTON ...Who died at Oenpelli ...Nov 29th 1919...aged 72 years ..A colonist of 50 years . Source , Free BMD Birth Dist Aston / Vol 16 / Page 231 . There are more sources , and extra information on the document . I will be happy to give the attachment off list at jabaarli@bigpond.com . I also have a photo of his headstone . Regards John Baylis

Hi: Forgive the cross-posting, but the response to this link has been very positive since I originally posted it on the Black Country site, and I thought it would be worth sharing with others. Many listers will know that The National Archives gives regular talks on various aspects of family history at the PRO in Kew. Less well known is that they're now available to replay online. Just go to http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/rss/podcasts.xml. Very easy to listen to, providing you've got broadband, I can particularly recommend "Sex, Lies and Civil Registration", among others. Regards Paul Prescott

Oh Whoops Jill has just pointed out that the URL I gave for Long Marston (The Last Witch Hunt) was for the village of the same name in Hertfordshire - sorry gang- It looked so interesting I forgot to check . Geoff Allen's book "Warwickshire Towns and Villages" describes how Charles 11 escaping after the battle of Worcester in 1651 stayed at the Manor House (now Kings Lodge) disguised as a servant. There is a photograph circa 1900-1909 on Windows on Warwickshire of the Kings Lodge http://www.search.windowsonwarwickshire.org.uk/engine/resource/default.asp?resource=1480 and also several others of interest for the village (but not quite as interesting as a witch hunt) Good Hunting Wendy

Dear list, Does anyone have any information on either of the following RENSHAW families? Descendants of John Thomas Renshaw 1 John Thomas Renshaw b: Bet. October - December 1867 in Rotherham, Yorkshire, England d: Aft. 1901 . +Elizabeth Harriet Dennett b: Bet. April - June 1870 in Birmingham, Warwickshire, England d: Bet. April - June 1910 in Birmingham, Warwickshire, England m: Bet. July - September 1892 in Birmingham Dist, Warwickshire, England ........... 2 Charles James Renshaw b: Bet. January - March 1893 in Birmingham, Warwickshire, England ........... 2 Mabel Ellen Renshaw b: Bet. July - September 1896 in Birmingham, Warwickshire, England ........... 2 William Renshaw b: Abt. 1900 in Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Descendants of Walter Sutton Renshaw 1 Walter Sutton Renshaw b: Bet. April - June 1871 in Aston, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England d: Aft. 1901 . +Mary d: Aft. 1901 m: Bet. April - June 1897 in Birmingham Dist., Warwickshire, England ........... 2 Walter Sutton Renshaw b: Bet. July - September 1898 in Birmingham, Warwickshire, England ........... 2 Millicent Katherine Renshaw b: Bet. April - June 1901 in Birmingham, Warwickshire, England John and Walter were brothers. I have info on their parents, so I am looking for any info on the descendants of either sibling. There was also another male sibling, but I also have info on him(Arthur RENSHAW). I am also wondering if anyone has access to church records for Birmingham. The above Walter RENSHAW was married in the second quarter, 1897. The BMD Index has a listing for a Mary SUTTON and a Mary Frances Massingham. I would love to be able to nail down which one was married to Walter. I would appreciate a look-up if anyone has access to the records. I do not know which parish they belonged to but if it helps at all, the family did live in the Aston section of Birmingham for a while. I can be emailed directly with any info....mr_y18@hotmail.com Thank you Dave Yarros Scranton, PA, USA _________________________________________________________________ Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailnews

Although not directly Warwickshire related, I've come across a very useful website which I'm sure will assist someone with their research. I was looking for when our ancestors' family firm ceased trading and someone directed me towards the London Gazette archives. Although the company was based in the north of the country, the details of its receivership were there in the London paper and helped complete another section of the family jigsaw. The link is http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/. Not having visited the site before, I used the Search Builder (under Historians header) and it was soooo straight forward to use. I would certainly recommend it (and it's free :-) ) Hope it helps someone Heather Q

> Hi Wendy, > Lovely to read your research on the Marstons and thanks so > much. > Do you have anything on Broad Marston please? My Gt G mother was born > there in 1858,name of Rebecca Jarrett, her mother's maiden name being Mary > Ann Dyde. > Rebecca married Samuel Fletcher. > They came to NZ about 1878. > Thanks. > Val Hirst > Tauranga > New Zealand > valhirst@xtra.co.nz >