Hi All, I have just posted the transcription to 1861 FreeCEN piece RG09-2178 - Aston (Duddeston) on PPP - many thanks due to the transcriber team (including Wendy) who worked to make this possible. Only 6 more Aston pieces left - any chance of those working on them to get them to Wendy soon, so we can get these uploaded before Xmas ??? One of you has gone AWOL - ----> You know who you are :-(( Link to piece from www.hunimex.com/warwick/freecens/1861/index_1861.html Happy Hunting Pickard >From a rather snowy Nagykanizsa, Hungary PS anyone having problem finding the data now that it moved ????

Hello all My great grandfather's second wife remarried in 1929 to a Joseph WEST who says he was a Retired Police Constable. Iva Agnes BIRD (nee CROOKS) was 46 at the time of the wedding at Leicester Register Office and her Groom was 76! Joseph was widowed also; I believe his first wife was Elizabeth. Joseph was born in Longford Warwickshire in 1853 if I have the right person from census records. Is anyone else researching this WEST family? Regards, Janet Northampton UK

I am trying to find a connection for Donald Beaumont who was a foster child with Sarah (Sally) James in 1945 timeframe. George James was a person in the government at the time. I see many Beaumonts but wonder if Donald is still living. He was 14 in 1947 and have a picture of him. His parents were killed and he did not have any family so Sarah took him in as a foster child at the time. That is the last we heard of Sarah James too. Her husband had died by this time in her life in 1947. Sarah and George James were both born in 1872 and originally came from Cullompton where I think both were born. If any one has any information more about Donald Beaumont also would be interested to learn more about him. She lived at 149 Wood St. in Rugby. Jan in US

Hello I also have relative that show's she is entered as the Toll Gate Collector on the 1841 census, her father is living with her at the Hillmorton Toll Gate. I would be interrested if there was any more information about which Toll Gate that was in Hillmorton. Jeff

Jacqui Simkins wrote: > The newspaper library at Colindale is being closed. The paper > newspapers are being removed to storage "safely" away from users > :-( I recently read an article describing how some are so well > used they are falling to pieces. > > The publicised plans are for relevant items to be filmed and made > available at St Pancras. Somehow all this sounds so much like the > current debacle with FRC/GRO/TNA...and all those various "birds" > which seem to have been ousted by a cuckoo <g> And it's enough to drive everyone "cuckoo"!! Thanks for the memory refresher :)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Bob Doe wrote: > I can access The Times online from home via my local Brighton and Hove > library but as Sue says you need to have a library card. Home access depends on the license the local authority has bought. My local library's is for library access only. The license also limits the number of people who can access the site at any one time and that can be variable. My local authority has a very low number - 3. I do have a library card :)) A lot of research (not all of it genealogical) that I do is from books, not the internet. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

The newspaper library at Colindale is being closed. The paper newspapers are being removed to storage "safely" away from users :-( I recently read an article describing how some are so well used they are falling to pieces. The publicised plans are for relevant items to be filmed and made available at St Pancras. Somehow all this sounds so much like the current debacle with FRC/GRO/TNA...and all those various "birds" which seem to have been ousted by a cuckoo <g> So if you need to look at newspapers, do it soon. That said, local libraries often hold film copies of the newspapers of that town/district. It is always worth checking before heading for London/Colindale; but if you want specific years, be specific in your enquiry. I went two counties away to use papers, having checked on a website for years, booked in without being specific to the actual month/year I needed, got there and guess what...yes, that short period was not in their holding!! Jacqui ----- Original Message ----- From: Charani To: warwick@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [WAR] Gazette Website sue collins wrote: > Since I responded by mentioning the Times newspaper archive, several people > have written, off list, to ask me how to access it. The answer is by using > your UK library card and number. Not sure how/if you can do it from outside > the UK. There are some UK libraries who will accept online applications for readers tickets from anywhere in the world. I think Bedfordshire Libraries do and also Manchester, but don't hold me to that. Googling for both should give you more information. I can only access the Times in my local library. They don't allow access via a home computer. > I don't know about local Warwickshire papers - perhaps someone more > experienced can enlighten? The Colindale archives are being moved (I think) > to the British Library. The Newspaper Library at Colindale is part of the British Library and is moving to a site near St Pancras in London. From what I've heard the service is not going to be as extensive as it is now. As always, exactly what the service will be like won't be fully known until the new site is up and running. I didn't think that it was going to the same site as the British Library itself, but may be wrong there. Googling will find the answer. A search of the Newspaper Library site and/or Warwickshire Record Office's online catalogue should find local papers. Google should also find them. "Warwickshire Newspapers" (with the quote marks) should find them as well. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1135 - Release Date: 16/11/2007 22:58

I can access The Times online from home via my local Brighton and Hove library but as Sue says you need to have a library card. -----Original Message----- From: warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Charani Sent: 17 November 2007 10:27 To: warwick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WAR] Gazette Website sue collins wrote: > Since I responded by mentioning the Times newspaper archive, several people > have written, off list, to ask me how to access it. The answer is by using > your UK library card and number. Not sure how/if you can do it from outside > the UK. There are some UK libraries who will accept online applications for readers tickets from anywhere in the world. I think Bedfordshire Libraries do and also Manchester, but don't hold me to that. Googling for both should give you more information. I can only access the Times in my local library. They don't allow access via a home computer. > I don't know about local Warwickshire papers - perhaps someone more > experienced can enlighten? The Colindale archives are being moved (I think) > to the British Library. The Newspaper Library at Colindale is part of the British Library and is moving to a site near St Pancras in London. From what I've heard the service is not going to be as extensive as it is now. As always, exactly what the service will be like won't be fully known until the new site is up and running. I didn't think that it was going to the same site as the British Library itself, but may be wrong there. Googling will find the answer. A search of the Newspaper Library site and/or Warwickshire Record Office's online catalogue should find local papers. Google should also find them. "Warwickshire Newspapers" (with the quote marks) should find them as well. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jeff Butler wrote: > Hello I also have relative that show's she is entered as the Toll > Gate Collector on the 1841 census, her father is living with her at > the Hillmorton Toll Gate. I would be interrested if there was any > more information about which Toll Gate that was in Hillmorton. If you contact the Record Office, you may well find they have a map or other information relating to it. I was looking for the whereabouts of the toll gate in Walton (SOM) and the Record Office had a detailed (and enormous) map dated 1820 showing the location. They also had another map about 20 years later together with a survey which also showed it and gave details of the toll road itself. Another possible source is the UK Parliament site which will have the Acts of Parliament for the setting up of the toll roads together with any Acts amending the original. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

sue collins wrote: > Since I responded by mentioning the Times newspaper archive, several people > have written, off list, to ask me how to access it. The answer is by using > your UK library card and number. Not sure how/if you can do it from outside > the UK. There are some UK libraries who will accept online applications for readers tickets from anywhere in the world. I think Bedfordshire Libraries do and also Manchester, but don't hold me to that. Googling for both should give you more information. I can only access the Times in my local library. They don't allow access via a home computer. > I don't know about local Warwickshire papers - perhaps someone more > experienced can enlighten? The Colindale archives are being moved (I think) > to the British Library. The Newspaper Library at Colindale is part of the British Library and is moving to a site near St Pancras in London. From what I've heard the service is not going to be as extensive as it is now. As always, exactly what the service will be like won't be fully known until the new site is up and running. I didn't think that it was going to the same site as the British Library itself, but may be wrong there. Googling will find the answer. A search of the Newspaper Library site and/or Warwickshire Record Office's online catalogue should find local papers. Google should also find them. "Warwickshire Newspapers" (with the quote marks) should find them as well. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Since I responded by mentioning the Times newspaper archive, several people have written, off list, to ask me how to access it. The answer is by using your UK library card and number. Not sure how/if you can do it from outside the UK. I don't know about local Warwickshire papers - perhaps someone more experienced can enlighten? The Colindale archives are being moved (I think) to the British Library. Regards, SUE. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy and Betty Mullett" <rbmullett@shaw.ca> To: "sue collins" <sue@susancollins.uk.com> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [WAR] Gazette Website > Hi Sue > Would you happen to know if they have an archive for the Rugby paper? > Betty > Canada > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "sue collins" <sue@susancollins.uk.com> > To: "diane guilfoy" <dguilfoy@hotmail.com>; <warwick@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 3:12 PM > Subject: Re: [WAR] Gazette Website > > >> The Times newspaper archive mentions a dividend paid to Joseph Hands of >> Coventry, Dyer, at three, the King's Head Inn, Coventry on Oct 15th 1787 >> and >> a Richard Hands is listed as a director of the Birmingham West Branch >> Wednesbury and Walsall Railway in Oct 8th 1845 issue. >> Enjoy the Californian sun while we shiver. SUE. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "diane guilfoy" <dguilfoy@hotmail.com> >> To: <warwick@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 5:37 PM >> Subject: Re: [WAR] Gazette Website >> >> >> Thanks Heather so much for the website. I only entered "Joseph Hands" >> and >> found numerous references in 1842-1843 to the bankruptcy of Joseph Hands >> and >> Elizabeth Gill, ribbon manufacturers of Coventry. They are in my >> database >> although not necessarily related to my gggrandfather Joseph Hands, >> watchmaker of Coventry. >> >> On the other hand, a notice of the dissolution of partnership of Joseph >> and >> William Hands, butchers of Corley, did relate to my gggrandfathers >> cousins. >> My Joseph's father William was born in Corley Moor, and I had already >> found >> cousin Joseph in the 1841 census as a butcher in Corley. >> >> I can see I will be very busy with this new (to me) resource. >> >> Diane in California >> >> >> >>> I was looking for when our ancestors' family firm ceased trading and > >>> someone directed me towards the London Gazette archives. Although the > >>> company was based in the north of the country, the details of its > >>> receivership were there in the London paper and helped complete another >>> > >>> section of the family jigsaw.> > The link is >>> http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/. Not having visited the > site before, >>> I >>> used the Search Builder (under Historians header) and it > was soooo >>> straight forward to use. I would certainly recommend it (and > it's free >>> :-) )> > Hope it helps someone> Heather Q> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live >> OneCare! >> http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailnews >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi All, Stray Warwickshire BMDs (Warks folks found gallivanting around in other counties) are being coordinated by Ann Menzies warkstrays@bigpond.com and will be put on PPP for all - so please send in any records you come across while researching data in other counties. Please mention source if possible. The first set of Stray Marriages is now on PPP with a link from the index page - www.hunimex.com/warwick/index.html The Marriage index is on http://www.hunimex.com/warwick/bmd/Warks_stray_marriages.html Happy Hunting Pickard

The Times newspaper archive mentions a dividend paid to Joseph Hands of Coventry, Dyer, at three, the King's Head Inn, Coventry on Oct 15th 1787 and a Richard Hands is listed as a director of the Birmingham West Branch Wednesbury and Walsall Railway in Oct 8th 1845 issue. Enjoy the Californian sun while we shiver. SUE. ----- Original Message ----- From: "diane guilfoy" <dguilfoy@hotmail.com> To: <warwick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [WAR] Gazette Website Thanks Heather so much for the website. I only entered "Joseph Hands" and found numerous references in 1842-1843 to the bankruptcy of Joseph Hands and Elizabeth Gill, ribbon manufacturers of Coventry. They are in my database although not necessarily related to my gggrandfather Joseph Hands, watchmaker of Coventry. On the other hand, a notice of the dissolution of partnership of Joseph and William Hands, butchers of Corley, did relate to my gggrandfathers cousins. My Joseph's father William was born in Corley Moor, and I had already found cousin Joseph in the 1841 census as a butcher in Corley. I can see I will be very busy with this new (to me) resource. Diane in California > I was looking for when our ancestors' family firm ceased trading and > > someone directed me towards the London Gazette archives. Although the > > company was based in the north of the country, the details of its > > receivership were there in the London paper and helped complete another > > section of the family jigsaw.> > The link is > http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/. Not having visited the > site before, I > used the Search Builder (under Historians header) and it > was soooo > straight forward to use. I would certainly recommend it (and > it's free > :-) )> > Hope it helps someone> Heather Q> _________________________________________________________________ Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailnews ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I'm wondering if anyone can claim George MALLIBOURN whose marriage appears in the Dec quarter of 1837 in the Coventry reg. district. Possible brides were Elizabeth CLEAVER, Ann HOLYOAK, Sarah TRAIN and Mary WASHBONE. Was this the same George who with wife Hannah had their daughter Mary baptised in Wolston in Dec 1846 (appears as MILBURN)? Are they the George MILLER and Hannah MILLER who are buried in Wolston? I am trying to eliminate Mary from a list of possible Mary MILLERs who might have been my husband's great-great-grandmother, a lady who was economical with the truth. With a lot of help from Wendy, we have a very likely candidate but I now have to rule out the others. Any help gratefully received, Jacqui in Brisbane, Australia

Hi Joe Who is it you are trying to find at the Toll House? Perhaps someone else can find them? Not all addresses were enumerated, particularly in the earlier census , perhaps its there without an address? Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Does anyone know of a source which lists toll gate keepers in > Warwickshire/Leicestershire during the early 1800s? > > Can anyone help me locate the 'Cross in Hand' toll gate in the 1851 > census? This was sited on the A5 at the Rugby, Wolvey & Lutterworth > junction, but seems to have 'slipped' between the Warwickshire and > Leicestershire census enumerators. Sigh. > > -- > Joe Connell

Hello Joe, The over-simplistic answer just could be that thay were 'on duty' and up all night - and that an overly-legalistic Enumerator didn't list them because they "didn't sleep there that night". I've seen enumeration schedules that list houses with that comment - and another where the Enumerator reported that he'd "accounted for everybody in the Parish apart from two Police Constables who were patrolling all night". (And then not only didn't name them, but also failed to record their wives as "policeman's wife")... Although you are more likely right that because the Toll-house was (likely to be) at a point where potentially 3 Enumeration Districts met - and all the Enumerators believed it fell outside their remit... Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe" <j40.public@ntlworld.com> To: <warwick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [WAR] Toll Gate Keepers Does anyone know of a source which lists toll gate keepers in Warwickshire/Leicestershire during the early 1800s? Can anyone help me locate the 'Cross in Hand' toll gate in the 1851 census? This was sited on the A5 at the Rugby, Wolvey & Lutterworth junction, but seems to have 'slipped' between the Warwickshire and Leicestershire census enumerators. Sigh. -- Joe Connell Firefox & Thunderbird portals Sunbelt & Avast protection ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone know of a source which lists toll gate keepers in Warwickshire/Leicestershire during the early 1800s? Can anyone help me locate the 'Cross in Hand' toll gate in the 1851 census? This was sited on the A5 at the Rugby, Wolvey & Lutterworth junction, but seems to have 'slipped' between the Warwickshire and Leicestershire census enumerators. Sigh. -- Joe Connell Firefox & Thunderbird portals Sunbelt & Avast protection

Thanks Heather so much for the website. I only entered "Joseph Hands" and found numerous references in 1842-1843 to the bankruptcy of Joseph Hands and Elizabeth Gill, ribbon manufacturers of Coventry. They are in my database although not necessarily related to my gggrandfather Joseph Hands, watchmaker of Coventry. On the other hand, a notice of the dissolution of partnership of Joseph and William Hands, butchers of Corley, did relate to my gggrandfathers cousins. My Joseph's father William was born in Corley Moor, and I had already found cousin Joseph in the 1841 census as a butcher in Corley. I can see I will be very busy with this new (to me) resource. Diane in California > I was looking for when our ancestors' family firm ceased trading and > someone directed me towards the London Gazette archives. Although the > company was based in the north of the country, the details of its > receivership were there in the London paper and helped complete another > section of the family jigsaw.> > The link is http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/. Not having visited the > site before, I used the Search Builder (under Historians header) and it > was soooo straight forward to use. I would certainly recommend it (and > it's free :-) )> > Hope it helps someone> Heather Q> _________________________________________________________________ Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailnews

Alf, All would be clear if you used the OPC pages on PPP ....... with link to TYAIW (I just love abbreviations <g>) Marston Green is a hamlet of Bickenhill ! Happy Hunting Pickard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alf Fantham" <alf.fantham@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <warwick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [WAR] This week's villages-The Marstons - Marston Green > St Edburgha Yardley and Marston Chapel records are in Brum, but where > Marston Green is I know not > > regards > > Alf FANTHAM >

I have an interest in the COATES family, and believe that James and Emma enjoyed at least six children, four of whom were born in Marston Green: James 1884, Nellie 1887, Bessie 1890 and Thomas 1892. -- Joe Connell Firefox & Thunderbird portals Sunbelt & Avast protection