My ancestors had an electroplate company in Birmingham. I think I have found a listing for them in a Birmingham trade directory. However, the entry is under "Albert Guards and Pendants". I have googled and searched but, although I have found references to Albert Guards in association with other jewellery, I am no closer to knowing what they are! I wonder if anyone has ever come across the term before and could explain what they are?! Many thanks Heather

I've been searching the Leicester University Historical Directories website and came across a fascinating page which might be of interest to others researching in Warwickshire. The directory is "White & Co.'s Commercial & Trades Directory of Birmingham, Vol. I, 1875" The page itself is unnumbered but the previous page is 138 (searching for page 139 probably won't find it!) The page is entitled "Monumental Brasses in Churches in Warwickshire" and then lists the subject of the brass, the date and the church in which it is found. I won't transcribe the whole page here but the names mentioned are ... HOLTE BAGOT WYKEHAM MARSKRE ABELLE CLIFTON FENTON ODYNGSALL VERNEY BOND HINTON SEWELL SCROPE BROKES THROKMORTON BEST ROTTON BYNGHAM ARCHER de BEAUCHAMP OKEN WILLARDSEY le STRAUNGE GREVILLE NELLE AUDLINGTON BENNET de CREWE DIGBY ALLESLEY BOUGHTON I hope it is of some use to someone on this list :-) Heather

Hi Lesley, yes, many thanks, should give the Library a ring soon, hopefully on my day off on Wednesday. Regards, Michael -------------------------------------------------- From: "Lesley" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 8:41 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WAR] Knowle Records > Hi Michael > > I know I'm rather late coming in on this thread but I can confirm that > Solihull Central Library do hold parish records for most of the churches > in Knowle. I checked the parish church for somebody (have forgotten which > one exactly but I could try and find out if you need to know). Which one > in particular are you searching for? Best bet is to ring the library. > > Lesley > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael McAllister" <[email protected]> > To: "Warwick List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 9:26 AM > Subject: [WAR] Knowle Records > > >> Hi List, can anyone tell me if the library in Knowle would hold Parish >> records from the churches in Knowle please? >> Many thanks, Michael McAllister >> List archives are at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > >

In a message dated 28/02/2010 18:39:50 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: My ancestors had an electroplate company in Birmingham. I think I have found a listing for them in a Birmingham trade directory. However, the entry is under "Albert Guards and Pendants". I have googled and searched but, although I have found references to Albert Guards in association with other jewellery, I am no closer to knowing what they are! I wonder if anyone has ever come across the term before and could explain what they are?! Alberts were watch chains. The same were sometimes called 'guard chains.' Geoffrey Woollard.

Hi, I am new to the list and researching the family of AULTON for my husband's maternal first cousin and am hoping that someone can perhaps help me to add to the information that I have already found on the IGI at the Family Search website, although I know from first hand experience that this information is not always 100% reliable! The furthest back I have managed to get at this point is to find baptisms for two children of Michael AULTON and Zeporah (sic) ? on Batch C043721, 1761-1875, Middleton, Warwickshire, which seems to have been recorded on census records as both Staffordshire and Warwickshire. The two baptisms located on IGI, were for Edward AULTON on 6 Sep, 1829, Middleton and also Mary AULTON in 9 Jan, 1825. Edward has never appeared on any census, so it might be that he died in infancy or at a young age. Three others were located only because of their appearance on census records, two with a birthplace of Middleton; Thomas, b.c.1812 and James, b.c.1821 but neither were on the Family Search IGI. The other was John, born about 1812 whose birthplace on the census records was recorded as West Bromwich, but there is a baptism on the family Search IGI, Batch C041794, St. Philip, Birmingham, for John AULTON, 23 Apr 1812, parents Michael AULTON and Zeparah (sic). In 1841, I found Michael and Zipporah at Middleton, Warwickshire, in the registration district of Tamworth. Apart from Michael & Zipporah, there were two adults, who I have assumed to be their son Thomas and daughter Elizabeth, plus Mary, the daughter whose baptism is mentioned above. However there is also 1 year old Charlotte Aulton, but I have not been able to trace her parentage. Subsequent census records gave the birthplace of Zipporah as Hines, Staffs, so I would truly appreciate any help in locating a baptism and/or her marriage to Michael, although I do realise that Hines would not be included in Warwickshire.. There is a death registration on FreeBMD for Zeppreih (sic) AULTON in June Qtr, 1862, Tamworth, 6b, 204, but so far, I have not located a death registration for Michael, even though I am unable to find him after the 1861 census. His age on that census was given as 79. His year of birth was recorded as 1781 in 1841, 1777 in 1851, and 1782 in 1861 with birthplace of Sutton Coldfield in 1851 and Wilnecote, Warwickshire in 1861. Future generation of this family were mostly in Walsall, so have been fairly easy to find, although I am still looking for a marriage for John AULTON, b.1812 who married Sarah, birthplace of Smethwick in or before 1837 as, what I believe to be their daughter Mary's birth registration is in Sep Qtr, 1837. It appears that the seven children I have for them were born in Aldridge, Staffs . My apologies for making this so long-winded plus, I do hope that I am not wasting your time by contacting the wrong mailing list! My own research is mostly in the Bristol area, although my husband's family takes me to Redditch, Alcester & Birmingham. Thank you so much, Patricia Ontario, Canada

I agree with you Charles I have done quite a lot of work for various people and it is so sad to see what people were for - today they would be treated so differently. Lesley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Henrywood" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [WAR] Addresses of Asylums in Birmingham (was City Asylum) > Many thanks, Gus. > > Unfortunately, neither of the addresses generate the hospital census > entries, so it looks as though progress will have to wait until I can get > to > Birmingham. Mind you, the time certainly hasn't been wasted as I've > learned > something of the mental health provision at the turn of C19 & C20. > Probably > the most striking was seeing that children as young as 1 year were listed > as > patients. In fact,of the 91 14 yrs and under patients, 57 were 6 years old > or younger. On the credit side, there seemed to be separate provision for > the children as there are two Medical Superintendents and separate staffs > but one can't help wondering how many of the young residents in 1911 left > other than to be buried. > > Best wishes > > Charles > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gus Tysoe" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 1:44 PM > Subject: Re: [WAR] Addresses of Asylums in Birmingham (was City Asylum) > > >> Hello Charles, >> >> Rubery Hill Hospital [aka Birmingham Borough Asylum, Rednal] had the >> postal >> address of Cock Hill Lane, Rednal. >> >> Hollymore Hospital [aka Birmingham Borough Asylum, Northfield] 1905-1994 >> was >> in Tessall Lane, Northfield. >> >> AFAIK, both were in Kings Norton Registration District. >> >> HTH >> >> Gus >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Charles Henrywood" <[email protected]> >> To: "Warwick List" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 1:00 PM >> Subject: [WAR] Addresses of Asylums in Birmingham (was City Asylum) >> >> >>> Following the very useful advice from Mar I found and accessed the 1911 >>> census return from the City/All Saints Asylum. As Mar had suggested, the >>> patients (the adults, anyway) were recorded only by initial. >>> Unfortunately, >>> there was no sign of my grandmother. However, I've discovered from >>> internet >>> searches there were several annexes to the hospital (Glenthorne, >>> Leveretts >>> and Stechford Hall - though the latter only came into operation 1912). >>> I've >>> also discovered that Rubery Hill and Hollymore Asylums/Hospitals might >>> be >>> possible locations. It may be that these were recorded separately in the >>> census, so my next task will be to find out their addresses. >>> >>> Any help Listers can give will be much appreciated. >>> >>> Charles >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> List archives are at >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> List archives are at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > List archives are at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Michael I know I'm rather late coming in on this thread but I can confirm that Solihull Central Library do hold parish records for most of the churches in Knowle. I checked the parish church for somebody (have forgotten which one exactly but I could try and find out if you need to know). Which one in particular are you searching for? Best bet is to ring the library. Lesley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael McAllister" <[email protected]> To: "Warwick List" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 9:26 AM Subject: [WAR] Knowle Records > Hi List, can anyone tell me if the library in Knowle would hold Parish > records from the churches in Knowle please? > Many thanks, Michael McAllister > List archives are at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Forgot to say that 'some' of the patients are only eneterd as their initials, whilst others have their full names. All of the patients have their sex, marital status, age and occupation but not their place of birth. Roger

The best thing is just to put 'Lodge Road' and Warwickshire in an address search. That will show a few addresses, of which Lodge Road, Birmingham is one. Go to that page and scroll down until you see '9999' - that's All saints Asylum. There are two pages, which then break down further to inmates and staff at the Asylum. Hope this helps. Roger

Hi Ian The GRO Marriage Index... from Ancestry... gives a marriage between John Cullen & Tania M. Morgan in August 1995 in Nuneaton & Bedworth..... rather a late marriage, but it's the only cross referenced one ... Best wishes Carole -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 25 February 2010 11:39 To: [email protected] Subject: [WAR] John CULLEN, Canley, Coventry Can anyone shed any light on one John CULLEN for me? He appears on the headstone of my wife's g-grandparents in Canley cemetery, Coventry: In Loving Memory A Dear Mum NELLIE AGNES MORGAN Died 11 Feb 1958 Aged 67 Years Also her husband HARRY MORGAN Died 16 Jan 1962 Aged 79 years A Dear Husband JOHN CULLEN Died 30 Dec 2003 Aged 82 Years Loved too much in life to be forgotten in death We are intrigued to learn more about John as we have no reference to the surname CULLEN anywhere within my wife's known MORGAN ancestry and the name rings no bells with current members of the family. If anyone can offer any information please reply off list to maintain confidentiality. Many thanks in anticipation of any help. Best regards. Ian Phillpott My family history website: _www.freewebs.com/phillpottdebian/index.htm_ (http://www.freewebs.com/phillpottdebian/index.htm) List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Ian Not sure whether this will help but back in my family in the 1930's there was an unconnected burial in a family grave. My mother told me that a neighbour who was poor had asked my great-grandmother to bury her child in her family grave. Maybe check the Electoral Register for the area. The time difference of 40 years may not support this theory. Can you trace CULLEN's home back from 2003 back to 1962? Was he single? Was he a witness to a wedding or a godparent? I've not explored this route but who paid for his burial? - records at the cemetery?/ with the funeral director? Bye ---- [email protected] wrote: > Can anyone shed any light on one John CULLEN for me? He appears on the > headstone of my wife's g-grandparents in Canley cemetery, Coventry: > > > > In Loving Memory > A Dear Mum > NELLIE AGNES MORGAN > Died 11 Feb 1958 > Aged 67 Years > > Also her husband > HARRY MORGAN > Died 16 Jan 1962 > Aged 79 years > > > A Dear Husband > JOHN CULLEN > Died 30 Dec 2003 > Aged 82 Years > > Loved too much in life to be forgotten in death > > > We are intrigued to learn more about John as we have no reference to the > surname CULLEN anywhere within my wife's known MORGAN ancestry and the name > rings no bells with current members of the family. > > If anyone can offer any information please reply off list to maintain > confidentiality. > > Many thanks in anticipation of any help. > > Best regards. > > Ian Phillpott > My family history website: _www.freewebs.com/phillpottdebian/index.htm_ > (http://www.freewebs.com/phillpottdebian/index.htm) > List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Barb, Many thanks, Michael -------------------------------------------------- From: "Barb Stacey" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 10:01 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WAR] Knowle Records > Hi Michael, > > Knowle library has a local history archive, but I don't think the parish > registers. Solihull Central Library has copies though. > > Barb > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael McAllister" <[email protected]> > To: "Warwick List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 9:26 AM > Subject: [WAR] Knowle Records > > >> Hi List, can anyone tell me if the library in Knowle would hold Parish >> records from the churches in Knowle please? >> Many thanks, Michael McAllister >> List archives are at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hello again Charles, The trouble here is - as of course you know - that these are "Institutions", and don't really fit the 1911's standard transcription and indexing method :-( I'm by no means skilled in the use of the 1911 - hoping that [perhaps] in another 4 or 5 years the prices may come down, or another supplier will include them - and so I've never attempted any sort of 'deep searching'. All I wanted - and got - was the bulk of the TYSO[E]s, and then left it. What I don't know is if it's possible to get to any sort of 'contents' pages for each Registration District, and thought that at least establishing those might help to move you forward a shade... I was very surprised by the numbers of young children you found - but I imagine they'd likely be Downs Syndrome or other 'Extreme Needs' patients, rather than [say] children of inmates. 'Having an illegitimate child' was still considered a "legitimate cause" for certifying until at least the start of the last war - I met a few of the unfortunate Releasees when the WOR County Asylum was closed in the 1990s and they were thrown into the scant mercies of "Care in the Community", but as far as I ever found out their babies weren't put inside with the mothers. *NOT* a pleasant topic.... Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Henrywood" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [WAR] Addresses of Asylums in Birmingham (was City Asylum) > Many thanks, Gus. > > Unfortunately, neither of the addresses generate the hospital census > entries, so it looks as though progress will have to wait until I can get > to > Birmingham. Mind you, the time certainly hasn't been wasted as I've > learned > something of the mental health provision at the turn of C19 & C20. > Probably > the most striking was seeing that children as young as 1 year were listed > as > patients. In fact,of the 91 14 yrs and under patients, 57 were 6 years old > or younger. On the credit side, there seemed to be separate provision for > the children as there are two Medical Superintendents and separate staffs > but one can't help wondering how many of the young residents in 1911 left > other than to be buried. > > Best wishes > > Charles > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gus Tysoe" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 1:44 PM > Subject: Re: [WAR] Addresses of Asylums in Birmingham (was City Asylum) > > >> Hello Charles, >> >> Rubery Hill Hospital [aka Birmingham Borough Asylum, Rednal] had the >> postal >> address of Cock Hill Lane, Rednal. >> >> Hollymore Hospital [aka Birmingham Borough Asylum, Northfield] 1905-1994 >> was >> in Tessall Lane, Northfield. >> >> AFAIK, both were in Kings Norton Registration District. >> >> HTH >> >> Gus >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Charles Henrywood" <[email protected]> >> To: "Warwick List" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 1:00 PM >> Subject: [WAR] Addresses of Asylums in Birmingham (was City Asylum) >> >> >>> Following the very useful advice from Mar I found and accessed the 1911 >>> census return from the City/All Saints Asylum. As Mar had suggested, the >>> patients (the adults, anyway) were recorded only by initial. >>> Unfortunately, >>> there was no sign of my grandmother. However, I've discovered from >>> internet >>> searches there were several annexes to the hospital (Glenthorne, >>> Leveretts >>> and Stechford Hall - though the latter only came into operation 1912). >>> I've >>> also discovered that Rubery Hill and Hollymore Asylums/Hospitals might >>> be >>> possible locations. It may be that these were recorded separately in the >>> census, so my next task will be to find out their addresses. >>> >>> Any help Listers can give will be much appreciated. >>> >>> Charles >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> List archives are at >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> List archives are at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > List archives are at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone shed any light on one John CULLEN for me? He appears on the headstone of my wife's g-grandparents in Canley cemetery, Coventry: In Loving Memory A Dear Mum NELLIE AGNES MORGAN Died 11 Feb 1958 Aged 67 Years Also her husband HARRY MORGAN Died 16 Jan 1962 Aged 79 years A Dear Husband JOHN CULLEN Died 30 Dec 2003 Aged 82 Years Loved too much in life to be forgotten in death We are intrigued to learn more about John as we have no reference to the surname CULLEN anywhere within my wife's known MORGAN ancestry and the name rings no bells with current members of the family. If anyone can offer any information please reply off list to maintain confidentiality. Many thanks in anticipation of any help. Best regards. Ian Phillpott My family history website: _www.freewebs.com/phillpottdebian/index.htm_ (http://www.freewebs.com/phillpottdebian/index.htm)

Hi Michael, Knowle library has a local history archive, but I don't think the parish registers. Solihull Central Library has copies though. Barb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael McAllister" <[email protected]> To: "Warwick List" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 9:26 AM Subject: [WAR] Knowle Records > Hi List, can anyone tell me if the library in Knowle would hold Parish > records from the churches in Knowle please? > Many thanks, Michael McAllister > List archives are at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi List, can anyone tell me if the library in Knowle would hold Parish records from the churches in Knowle please? Many thanks, Michael McAllister

Many thanks, Gus. Unfortunately, neither of the addresses generate the hospital census entries, so it looks as though progress will have to wait until I can get to Birmingham. Mind you, the time certainly hasn't been wasted as I've learned something of the mental health provision at the turn of C19 & C20. Probably the most striking was seeing that children as young as 1 year were listed as patients. In fact,of the 91 14 yrs and under patients, 57 were 6 years old or younger. On the credit side, there seemed to be separate provision for the children as there are two Medical Superintendents and separate staffs but one can't help wondering how many of the young residents in 1911 left other than to be buried. Best wishes Charles ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gus Tysoe" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [WAR] Addresses of Asylums in Birmingham (was City Asylum) > Hello Charles, > > Rubery Hill Hospital [aka Birmingham Borough Asylum, Rednal] had the > postal > address of Cock Hill Lane, Rednal. > > Hollymore Hospital [aka Birmingham Borough Asylum, Northfield] 1905-1994 > was > in Tessall Lane, Northfield. > > AFAIK, both were in Kings Norton Registration District. > > HTH > > Gus > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charles Henrywood" <[email protected]> > To: "Warwick List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 1:00 PM > Subject: [WAR] Addresses of Asylums in Birmingham (was City Asylum) > > >> Following the very useful advice from Mar I found and accessed the 1911 >> census return from the City/All Saints Asylum. As Mar had suggested, the >> patients (the adults, anyway) were recorded only by initial. >> Unfortunately, >> there was no sign of my grandmother. However, I've discovered from >> internet >> searches there were several annexes to the hospital (Glenthorne, >> Leveretts >> and Stechford Hall - though the latter only came into operation 1912). >> I've >> also discovered that Rubery Hill and Hollymore Asylums/Hospitals might be >> possible locations. It may be that these were recorded separately in the >> census, so my next task will be to find out their addresses. >> >> Any help Listers can give will be much appreciated. >> >> Charles >> [email protected] >> >> >> List archives are at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > List archives are at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Charles, Rubery Hill Hospital [aka Birmingham Borough Asylum, Rednal] had the postal address of Cock Hill Lane, Rednal. Hollymore Hospital [aka Birmingham Borough Asylum, Northfield] 1905-1994 was in Tessall Lane, Northfield. AFAIK, both were in Kings Norton Registration District. HTH Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Henrywood" <[email protected]> To: "Warwick List" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 1:00 PM Subject: [WAR] Addresses of Asylums in Birmingham (was City Asylum) > Following the very useful advice from Mar I found and accessed the 1911 > census return from the City/All Saints Asylum. As Mar had suggested, the > patients (the adults, anyway) were recorded only by initial. > Unfortunately, > there was no sign of my grandmother. However, I've discovered from > internet > searches there were several annexes to the hospital (Glenthorne, Leveretts > and Stechford Hall - though the latter only came into operation 1912). > I've > also discovered that Rubery Hill and Hollymore Asylums/Hospitals might be > possible locations. It may be that these were recorded separately in the > census, so my next task will be to find out their addresses. > > Any help Listers can give will be much appreciated. > > Charles > [email protected] > > > List archives are at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Following the very useful advice from Mar I found and accessed the 1911 census return from the City/All Saints Asylum. As Mar had suggested, the patients (the adults, anyway) were recorded only by initial. Unfortunately, there was no sign of my grandmother. However, I've discovered from internet searches there were several annexes to the hospital (Glenthorne, Leveretts and Stechford Hall - though the latter only came into operation 1912). I've also discovered that Rubery Hill and Hollymore Asylums/Hospitals might be possible locations. It may be that these were recorded separately in the census, so my next task will be to find out their addresses. Any help Listers can give will be much appreciated. Charles [email protected]

In case anyone on the list is researching either Frederick ELLIMORE who married Harriet CLARIDGE at NAPTON on 2 April 1887 and which is not yet on FreeBMD as that quarter is only half completed, I have in the Rugby Cement Archives the original of their marriage certificate [both: full age; by banns; fathers: John Elliman - labourer; George Claridge, labourer; witnesses: Joseph Claridge; Thomas ?Frensh?]. There is also the administration [with a large paper seal] granted to his wife following his death on 3 July 1899. His Estate was valued at £161. Why it is in the Charles Nelson files is uncertain - however, he was a brickyard labourer in 1891 - living at Napton, and that brickworks was also owned by Charles Nelson & Co. the Stockton lime and cement producers. It may be the Company helped his wife with the admin through Wood & Bourne, solicitors of Southam. CEMEX/Rugby Cement Archives, Document File refs: RS/9/1/8/6 & 7 I can photograph / scan these if required. Hope this helps someone, John Frearson Company and Family History Research and Publication RUGBY CEMENT ARCHIVES www.johnphfrearson.host22.com/JohnFrearsonWebSite/Rugby-Cement-History.html Researching the Speight Family of Photographers www.johnphfrearson.host22.com/Speight-Photographers.html