Would anyone know anything of the lineage of George Clarke b. 1841 son of George Clarke and wife Jane Jackson. George and Jane Sr. were married 1833 in Birmingham. I am trying to find out if this is my George Clarke who moved to Kent and married Harriet Burden. Thanks all Betty Canada __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5253 (20100705) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com

Hi, Thenk yew....ALL the Small family are hard to find as they all called their kids by the same names. We were trying t ofind the marriages, if any, of these kids. I can't find any but surely one of them married. Possible was Mary 1799? Robyn. On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 2:27 AM, Jestrrwolf <[email protected]> wrote: > Small children of John & Rebecca > > > 1. SARAH SMALL - Christening: 11 SEP 1764 Saint Martin, Birmingham, > Warwick, England > > 2. JOSEPH SMALL - Christening: 11 MAY 1771 Saint Martin, Birmingham, > Warwick, England > > 3. SAMUEL SMALL - Christening: 04 AUG 1766 Saint Martin, Birmingham, > Warwick, England > > 4. MARY SMALL - Christening: 02 APR 1755 Saint Martin, Birmingham, > Warwick, England > > 5. JOHN SMALL - Christening: 11 DEC 1761 Saint Martin, Birmingham, > Warwick, England > > 6. THOMAS SMALL - Christening: 01 OCT 1759 Saint Martin, Birmingham > > > > --- On Sun, 7/4/10, Robyn Shaw <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: Robyn Shaw <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [WAR] SMALL FAMILY > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 6:39 AM > > OK...can only find one child so > > far...others might have died or mother might > > have?? > > > > go to latter day saints site...familysearch.org > > > > on bottom of entry details it says advanced search, click > > that. > > > > NOW, if you want to find kids of certain parents, you only > > fill in the RIGHT > > HAND SIDE. > > > > you put in john small and rebecca ashford, nothing else!!! > > > > All the kids of those parents come up. > > > > The only one I can find is a Mary Small chr 1.4.1755 St > > Martins Birmingham > > with parents John and Rebecca. > > > > THEN if you go to St Martins site, from Hugh Wallis batch > > numbers site, > > click england then birmingham then st martins and see if > > they have people > > called Small there for St Martins....you should find Mary, > > could be others > > with Rebecca spelt wrongly. > > > > Go to it.....if you do not understand ask again. > > Robyn Shaw, Toowoomba, > > Qld. > > > > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Robyn Shaw <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > Lyn, if you go to NSW BMD Index and click in death > > records. Put in John > > > Small and only 1850 to 18050, there he is....aged 87, > > so two years out. > > > > > > You could email them and tell them the details and > > they have no parents as > > > whoever put in the death record didn't know. > > Robyn, Qld. Oz > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Robyn Shaw <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > >> Lyn , look up index of first fleeters and type in > > family name of SMALL. > > >> John comes up. He died in 1850. Robyn > > >> > > >> > > >> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Robyn Shaw <[email protected] > >wrote: > > >> > > >>> Lyn, familysearch.org has John Small marrying > > Reb. Ashford on 4.4.1749 > > >>> at Harborne, Stafford Robyn Qld O)z > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Robyn Shaw > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> > > >>>> Hi again, if you look at Hugh Wallis, > > England, Birmingham, St Martins, > > >>>> then look under christenings, can't find > > them marrying there, there is > > >>>> children of John Small and Rebecca > > listed.....all chr St Martins > > >>>> > > >>>> Mary 1755, Thomas 1759, JOHN 1761, Sarah > > 1764, Samuel 1766, and Joseph > > >>>> 1771. > > >>>> > > >>>> Maybe this is the John who came to > > Oz. Try looking up index of first > > >>>> fleeters, Australia or something like that > > and you might find him.. Robyn, > > >>>> Qld. Oz. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 4:14 PM, > > lynn walker < > > >>>> [email protected]> > > wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> My Ancestors were the Small Family who > > lived in Birmingham. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> John Small married Rebecca Ashford > > circ. 1748, St Martin's Church > > >>>>> Birmingham > > >>>>> > > >>>>> They had a number of children one > > being John Small Jnr. Who was > > >>>>> transported > > >>>>> to Australia > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On the 1st Fleet. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> My knowledge of the family is very > > limited and would love to learn > > >>>>> more. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Can anyone help please > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Lyn Walker > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> List archives are at > > >>>>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > > >>>>> ------------------------------- > > >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please > > send an email to > > >>>>> [email protected] > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of > > the message > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> -- > > >>>> Robyn Freney-Shaw > > >>>> Manager/Co-Ordinator > > >>>> Spiritus Soup Kitchen > > >>>> Toowoomba. > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> Robyn Freney-Shaw > > >>> Manager/Co-Ordinator > > >>> Spiritus Soup Kitchen > > >>> Toowoomba. > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Robyn Freney-Shaw > > >> Manager/Co-Ordinator > > >> Spiritus Soup Kitchen > > >> Toowoomba. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Robyn Freney-Shaw > > > Manager/Co-Ordinator > > > Spiritus Soup Kitchen > > > Toowoomba. > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Robyn Freney-Shaw > > Manager/Co-Ordinator > > Spiritus Soup Kitchen > > Toowoomba. > > List archives are at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > List archives are at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Robyn Freney-Shaw Manager/Co-Ordinator Spiritus Soup Kitchen Toowoomba.

> Hi > > Two possible marriages for Sarah > > 1. Spouse:  JOHN SMITH    >    Marriage:  11 JUN > 1786   St Martin, Birmingham > 2. Spouse:  WILLIAM NICHOLS    >    Marriage:  13 SEP > 1785   Saint Martin, Birmingham > > > > > one for Mary > > Spouse:  JAMES IWIN    >   Marriage:  30 JUL 1783   Saint > Martin, Birmingham > > two possible for Thomas > > 1. Spouse:  SUSANNA PARISH    >   Marriage:  09 JUN 1778   Saint > Martin , Birmingham > > 2. Spouse:  MARY HUNT  >   Marriage:  28 JUL 1788   Saint > Martin, > > one possible for Joseph > > Spouse:  REBECCA LEES    >   Marriage:  02 JUL 1787   Saint > Phillips, Birmingham > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 2:27 AM, Jestrrwolf <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > Small children of John & Rebecca > > > > > > > > > 1. SARAH SMALL - Christening: 11 SEP 1764 Saint > > Martin, Birmingham, > > > Warwick, England > > > > > >  2. JOSEPH SMALL - Christening: 11 MAY 1771 > Saint > > Martin, Birmingham, > > > Warwick, England > > > > > >  3. SAMUEL SMALL - Christening: 04 AUG 1766 > Saint > > Martin, Birmingham, > > > Warwick, England > > > > > >  4. MARY SMALL - Christening: 02 APR 1755 Saint > > Martin, Birmingham, > > > Warwick, England > > > > > >  5. JOHN SMALL - Christening: 11 DEC 1761 Saint > > Martin, Birmingham, > > > Warwick, England > > > > > >  6. THOMAS SMALL - Christening: 01 OCT 1759 > Saint > > Martin, Birmingham > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 7/4/10, Robyn Shaw <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > From: Robyn Shaw <[email protected]> > > > > Subject: Re: [WAR] SMALL FAMILY > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 6:39 AM > > > > OK...can only find one child so > > > > far...others might have died or mother > might > > > > have?? > > > > > > > > go to latter day saints > site...familysearch.org > > > > > > > > on bottom of entry details it says advanced > > search, click > > > > that. > > > > > > > > NOW, if you want to find kids of certain > parents, > > you only > > > > fill in the RIGHT > > > > HAND SIDE. > > > > > > > > you put in john small and rebecca ashford, > > nothing else!!! > > > > > > > > All the kids of those parents come up. > > > > > > > > The only one I can find is a Mary Small chr > > 1.4.1755 St > > > > Martins Birmingham > > > > with parents John and Rebecca. > > > > > > > > THEN if you go to St Martins site, from > Hugh > > Wallis batch > > > > numbers site, > > > > click england then birmingham then st > martins and > > see if > > > > they have people > > > > called Small there for St Martins....you > should > > find Mary, > > > > could be others > > > > with Rebecca spelt wrongly. > > > > > > > > Go to it.....if you do not understand ask > again. > > > > Robyn Shaw, Toowoomba, > > > > Qld. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Robyn Shaw > > <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Lyn, if you go to NSW BMD Index and > click in > > death > > > > records.  Put in John > > > > > Small and only 1850 to 18050, there he > > is....aged 87, > > > > so two years out. > > > > > > > > > > You could email them and tell them the > > details and > > > > they have no parents as > > > > > whoever put in the death record didn't > > know. > > > > Robyn, Qld. Oz > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Robyn > Shaw > > <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> Lyn , look up index of first > fleeters > > and type in > > > > family name of SMALL. > > > > >> John comes up.  He died in > > 1850.  Robyn > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:34 PM, > Robyn > > Shaw <[email protected] > > > >wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >>> Lyn, familysearch.org has John > Small > > marrying > > > > Reb. Ashford on 4.4.1749 > > > > >>> at Harborne, Stafford  Robyn > > Qld O)z > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:30 > PM, > > Robyn Shaw > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Hi again, if you look at > Hugh > > Wallis, > > > > England, Birmingham, St Martins, > > > > >>>> then look under > christenings, > > can't find > > > > them marrying there, there is > > > > >>>> children of John Small and > > Rebecca > > > > listed.....all chr St Martins > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Mary 1755, Thomas 1759, > JOHN > > 1761, Sarah > > > > 1764, Samuel 1766, and Joseph > > > > >>>> 1771. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Maybe this is the John who > came > > to > > > > Oz.  Try looking up index of first > > > > >>>> fleeters, Australia or > something > > like that > > > > and you might find him..  Robyn, > > > > >>>> Qld. Oz. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>  On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at > > 4:14 PM, > > > > lynn walker < > > > > >>>> [email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>> My Ancestors were the > Small > > Family who > > > > lived in Birmingham. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> John Small married > Rebecca > > Ashford > > > > circ. 1748, St Martin's Church > > > > >>>>> Birmingham > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> They had a number of > > children one > > > > being John Small Jnr. Who was > > > > >>>>> transported > > > > >>>>> to Australia > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> On the 1st Fleet. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> My knowledge of the > family > > is very > > > > limited and would love to learn > > > > >>>>> more. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> Can anyone help please > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> Lyn Walker > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> List archives are at > > > > >>>>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > > > > >>>>> > > ------------------------------- > > > > >>>>> To unsubscribe from > the > > list, please > > > > send an email to > > > > >>>>> [email protected] > > > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > > >>>>> quotes in the subject > and > > the body of > > > > the message > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> -- > > > > >>>> Robyn Freney-Shaw > > > > >>>> Manager/Co-Ordinator > > > > >>>> Spiritus Soup Kitchen > > > > >>>> Toowoomba. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> -- > > > > >>> Robyn Freney-Shaw > > > > >>> Manager/Co-Ordinator > > > > >>> Spiritus Soup Kitchen > > > > >>> Toowoomba. > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> -- > > > > >> Robyn Freney-Shaw > > > > >> Manager/Co-Ordinator > > > > >> Spiritus Soup Kitchen > > > > >> Toowoomba. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Robyn Freney-Shaw > > > > > Manager/Co-Ordinator > > > > > Spiritus Soup Kitchen > > > > > Toowoomba. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Robyn Freney-Shaw > > > > Manager/Co-Ordinator > > > > Spiritus Soup Kitchen > > > > Toowoomba. > > > > List archives are at > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send > an > > email to > > > [email protected] > > > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > > the > > > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > List archives are at > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > > > [email protected] > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Robyn Freney-Shaw > > Manager/Co-Ordinator > > Spiritus Soup Kitchen > > Toowoomba. > > List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > >

OK...can only find one child so far...others might have died or mother might have?? go to latter day saints site...familysearch.org on bottom of entry details it says advanced search, click that. NOW, if you want to find kids of certain parents, you only fill in the RIGHT HAND SIDE. you put in john small and rebecca ashford, nothing else!!! All the kids of those parents come up. The only one I can find is a Mary Small chr 1.4.1755 St Martins Birmingham with parents John and Rebecca. THEN if you go to St Martins site, from Hugh Wallis batch numbers site, click england then birmingham then st martins and see if they have people called Small there for St Martins....you should find Mary, could be others with Rebecca spelt wrongly. Go to it.....if you do not understand ask again. Robyn Shaw, Toowoomba, Qld. On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Robyn Shaw <[email protected]> wrote: > Lyn, if you go to NSW BMD Index and click in death records. Put in John > Small and only 1850 to 18050, there he is....aged 87, so two years out. > > You could email them and tell them the details and they have no parents as > whoever put in the death record didn't know. Robyn, Qld. Oz > > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Robyn Shaw <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Lyn , look up index of first fleeters and type in family name of SMALL. >> John comes up. He died in 1850. Robyn >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Robyn Shaw <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Lyn, familysearch.org has John Small marrying Reb. Ashford on 4.4.1749 >>> at Harborne, Stafford Robyn Qld O)z >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Robyn Shaw <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi again, if you look at Hugh Wallis, England, Birmingham, St Martins, >>>> then look under christenings, can't find them marrying there, there is >>>> children of John Small and Rebecca listed.....all chr St Martins >>>> >>>> Mary 1755, Thomas 1759, JOHN 1761, Sarah 1764, Samuel 1766, and Joseph >>>> 1771. >>>> >>>> Maybe this is the John who came to Oz. Try looking up index of first >>>> fleeters, Australia or something like that and you might find him.. Robyn, >>>> Qld. Oz. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 4:14 PM, lynn walker < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> My Ancestors were the Small Family who lived in Birmingham. >>>>> >>>>> John Small married Rebecca Ashford circ. 1748, St Martin's Church >>>>> Birmingham >>>>> >>>>> They had a number of children one being John Small Jnr. Who was >>>>> transported >>>>> to Australia >>>>> >>>>> On the 1st Fleet. >>>>> >>>>> My knowledge of the family is very limited and would love to learn >>>>> more. >>>>> >>>>> Can anyone help please >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Lyn Walker >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> List archives are at >>>>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Robyn Freney-Shaw >>>> Manager/Co-Ordinator >>>> Spiritus Soup Kitchen >>>> Toowoomba. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Robyn Freney-Shaw >>> Manager/Co-Ordinator >>> Spiritus Soup Kitchen >>> Toowoomba. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Robyn Freney-Shaw >> Manager/Co-Ordinator >> Spiritus Soup Kitchen >> Toowoomba. >> > > > > -- > Robyn Freney-Shaw > Manager/Co-Ordinator > Spiritus Soup Kitchen > Toowoomba. > -- Robyn Freney-Shaw Manager/Co-Ordinator Spiritus Soup Kitchen Toowoomba.

Small children of John & Rebecca 1. SARAH SMALL - Christening: 11 SEP 1764 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England 2. JOSEPH SMALL - Christening: 11 MAY 1771 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England 3. SAMUEL SMALL - Christening: 04 AUG 1766 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England 4. MARY SMALL - Christening: 02 APR 1755 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England 5. JOHN SMALL - Christening: 11 DEC 1761 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England 6. THOMAS SMALL - Christening: 01 OCT 1759 Saint Martin, Birmingham --- On Sun, 7/4/10, Robyn Shaw <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Robyn Shaw <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WAR] SMALL FAMILY > To: [email protected] > Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 6:39 AM > OK...can only find one child so > far...others might have died or mother might > have?? > > go to latter day saints site...familysearch.org > > on bottom of entry details it says advanced search, click > that. > > NOW, if you want to find kids of certain parents, you only > fill in the RIGHT > HAND SIDE. > > you put in john small and rebecca ashford, nothing else!!! > > All the kids of those parents come up. > > The only one I can find is a Mary Small chr 1.4.1755 St > Martins Birmingham > with parents John and Rebecca. > > THEN if you go to St Martins site, from Hugh Wallis batch > numbers site, > click england then birmingham then st martins and see if > they have people > called Small there for St Martins....you should find Mary, > could be others > with Rebecca spelt wrongly. > > Go to it.....if you do not understand ask again.  > Robyn Shaw, Toowoomba, > Qld. > > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Robyn Shaw <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Lyn, if you go to NSW BMD Index and click in death > records.  Put in John > > Small and only 1850 to 18050, there he is....aged 87, > so two years out. > > > > You could email them and tell them the details and > they have no parents as > > whoever put in the death record didn't know.  > Robyn, Qld. Oz > > > > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Robyn Shaw <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> Lyn , look up index of first fleeters and type in > family name of SMALL. > >> John comes up.  He died in 1850.  Robyn > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Robyn Shaw <[email protected]>wrote: > >> > >>> Lyn, familysearch.org has John Small marrying > Reb. Ashford on 4.4.1749 > >>> at Harborne, Stafford  Robyn Qld O)z > >>> > >>> > >>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Robyn Shaw > <[email protected]>wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> Hi again, if you look at Hugh Wallis, > England, Birmingham, St Martins, > >>>> then look under christenings, can't find > them marrying there, there is > >>>> children of John Small and Rebecca > listed.....all chr St Martins > >>>> > >>>> Mary 1755, Thomas 1759, JOHN 1761, Sarah > 1764, Samuel 1766, and Joseph > >>>> 1771. > >>>> > >>>> Maybe this is the John who came to > Oz.  Try looking up index of first > >>>> fleeters, Australia or something like that > and you might find him..  Robyn, > >>>> Qld. Oz. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>  On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 4:14 PM, > lynn walker < > >>>> [email protected]> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> My Ancestors were the Small Family who > lived in Birmingham. > >>>>> > >>>>> John Small married Rebecca Ashford > circ. 1748, St Martin's Church > >>>>> Birmingham > >>>>> > >>>>> They had a number of children one > being John Small Jnr. Who was > >>>>> transported > >>>>> to Australia > >>>>> > >>>>> On the 1st Fleet. > >>>>> > >>>>> My knowledge of the family is very > limited and would love to learn > >>>>> more. > >>>>> > >>>>> Can anyone help please > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Lyn Walker > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> List archives are at > >>>>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > >>>>> ------------------------------- > >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please > send an email to > >>>>> [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Robyn Freney-Shaw > >>>> Manager/Co-Ordinator > >>>> Spiritus Soup Kitchen > >>>> Toowoomba. > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Robyn Freney-Shaw > >>> Manager/Co-Ordinator > >>> Spiritus Soup Kitchen > >>> Toowoomba. > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Robyn Freney-Shaw > >> Manager/Co-Ordinator > >> Spiritus Soup Kitchen > >> Toowoomba. > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Robyn Freney-Shaw > > Manager/Co-Ordinator > > Spiritus Soup Kitchen > > Toowoomba. > > > > > > -- > Robyn Freney-Shaw > Manager/Co-Ordinator > Spiritus Soup Kitchen > Toowoomba. > List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Lyn, if you go to NSW BMD Index and click in death records. Put in John Small and only 1850 to 18050, there he is....aged 87, so two years out. You could email them and tell them the details and they have no parents as whoever put in the death record didn't know. Robyn, Qld. Oz On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Robyn Shaw <[email protected]> wrote: > Lyn , look up index of first fleeters and type in family name of SMALL. > John comes up. He died in 1850. Robyn > > > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Robyn Shaw <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Lyn, familysearch.org has John Small marrying Reb. Ashford on 4.4.1749 at >> Harborne, Stafford Robyn Qld O)z >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Robyn Shaw <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi again, if you look at Hugh Wallis, England, Birmingham, St Martins, >>> then look under christenings, can't find them marrying there, there is >>> children of John Small and Rebecca listed.....all chr St Martins >>> >>> Mary 1755, Thomas 1759, JOHN 1761, Sarah 1764, Samuel 1766, and Joseph >>> 1771. >>> >>> Maybe this is the John who came to Oz. Try looking up index of first >>> fleeters, Australia or something like that and you might find him.. Robyn, >>> Qld. Oz. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 4:14 PM, lynn walker <[email protected] >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> My Ancestors were the Small Family who lived in Birmingham. >>>> >>>> John Small married Rebecca Ashford circ. 1748, St Martin's Church >>>> Birmingham >>>> >>>> They had a number of children one being John Small Jnr. Who was >>>> transported >>>> to Australia >>>> >>>> On the 1st Fleet. >>>> >>>> My knowledge of the family is very limited and would love to learn more. >>>> >>>> Can anyone help please >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Lyn Walker >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> List archives are at >>>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Robyn Freney-Shaw >>> Manager/Co-Ordinator >>> Spiritus Soup Kitchen >>> Toowoomba. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Robyn Freney-Shaw >> Manager/Co-Ordinator >> Spiritus Soup Kitchen >> Toowoomba. >> > > > > -- > Robyn Freney-Shaw > Manager/Co-Ordinator > Spiritus Soup Kitchen > Toowoomba. > -- Robyn Freney-Shaw Manager/Co-Ordinator Spiritus Soup Kitchen Toowoomba.

Lyn , look up index of first fleeters and type in family name of SMALL. John comes up. He died in 1850. Robyn On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Robyn Shaw <[email protected]> wrote: > Lyn, familysearch.org has John Small marrying Reb. Ashford on 4.4.1749 at > Harborne, Stafford Robyn Qld O)z > > > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Robyn Shaw <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Hi again, if you look at Hugh Wallis, England, Birmingham, St Martins, >> then look under christenings, can't find them marrying there, there is >> children of John Small and Rebecca listed.....all chr St Martins >> >> Mary 1755, Thomas 1759, JOHN 1761, Sarah 1764, Samuel 1766, and Joseph >> 1771. >> >> Maybe this is the John who came to Oz. Try looking up index of first >> fleeters, Australia or something like that and you might find him.. Robyn, >> Qld. Oz. >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 4:14 PM, lynn walker <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> My Ancestors were the Small Family who lived in Birmingham. >>> >>> John Small married Rebecca Ashford circ. 1748, St Martin's Church >>> Birmingham >>> >>> They had a number of children one being John Small Jnr. Who was >>> transported >>> to Australia >>> >>> On the 1st Fleet. >>> >>> My knowledge of the family is very limited and would love to learn more. >>> >>> Can anyone help please >>> >>> >>> >>> Lyn Walker >>> >>> >>> >>> List archives are at >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Robyn Freney-Shaw >> Manager/Co-Ordinator >> Spiritus Soup Kitchen >> Toowoomba. >> > > > > -- > Robyn Freney-Shaw > Manager/Co-Ordinator > Spiritus Soup Kitchen > Toowoomba. > -- Robyn Freney-Shaw Manager/Co-Ordinator Spiritus Soup Kitchen Toowoomba.

Lyn, familysearch.org has John Small marrying Reb. Ashford on 4.4.1749 at Harborne, Stafford Robyn Qld O)z On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Robyn Shaw <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi again, if you look at Hugh Wallis, England, Birmingham, St Martins, then > look under christenings, can't find them marrying there, there is children > of John Small and Rebecca listed.....all chr St Martins > > Mary 1755, Thomas 1759, JOHN 1761, Sarah 1764, Samuel 1766, and Joseph > 1771. > > Maybe this is the John who came to Oz. Try looking up index of first > fleeters, Australia or something like that and you might find him.. Robyn, > Qld. Oz. > > > > > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 4:14 PM, lynn walker <[email protected]>wrote: > >> My Ancestors were the Small Family who lived in Birmingham. >> >> John Small married Rebecca Ashford circ. 1748, St Martin's Church >> Birmingham >> >> They had a number of children one being John Small Jnr. Who was >> transported >> to Australia >> >> On the 1st Fleet. >> >> My knowledge of the family is very limited and would love to learn more. >> >> Can anyone help please >> >> >> >> Lyn Walker >> >> >> >> List archives are at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Robyn Freney-Shaw > Manager/Co-Ordinator > Spiritus Soup Kitchen > Toowoomba. > -- Robyn Freney-Shaw Manager/Co-Ordinator Spiritus Soup Kitchen Toowoomba.

Hi again, if you look at Hugh Wallis, England, Birmingham, St Martins, then look under christenings, can't find them marrying there, there is children of John Small and Rebecca listed.....all chr St Martins Mary 1755, Thomas 1759, JOHN 1761, Sarah 1764, Samuel 1766, and Joseph 1771. Maybe this is the John who came to Oz. Try looking up index of first fleeters, Australia or something like that and you might find him.. Robyn, Qld. Oz. On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 4:14 PM, lynn walker <[email protected]>wrote: > My Ancestors were the Small Family who lived in Birmingham. > > John Small married Rebecca Ashford circ. 1748, St Martin's Church > Birmingham > > They had a number of children one being John Small Jnr. Who was transported > to Australia > > On the 1st Fleet. > > My knowledge of the family is very limited and would love to learn more. > > Can anyone help please > > > > Lyn Walker > > > > List archives are at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Robyn Freney-Shaw Manager/Co-Ordinator Spiritus Soup Kitchen Toowoomba.

Oh boy...the Small family.....well first of all maybe you need to look on the census listings or free cen roots web or Hugh Wallis site for batch numbers - justput that into your search engine and on the end of the page click England and then Birmingham then St Martins and put in last name and see if youcan find them there. Robyn, Qld. Oz. Who also has Smalls, going back William married Eliza and had a William and a John among others. Second William also had a John and a William. John had James and he was my grandfather. They were a family of bricklayers. Lived Erdington. Robyn, Qld. Oz. On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 4:14 PM, lynn walker <[email protected]>wrote: > My Ancestors were the Small Family who lived in Birmingham. > > John Small married Rebecca Ashford circ. 1748, St Martin's Church > Birmingham > > They had a number of children one being John Small Jnr. Who was transported > to Australia > > On the 1st Fleet. > > My knowledge of the family is very limited and would love to learn more. > > Can anyone help please > > > > Lyn Walker > > > > List archives are at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Robyn Freney-Shaw Manager/Co-Ordinator Spiritus Soup Kitchen Toowoomba.

My Ancestors were the Small Family who lived in Birmingham. John Small married Rebecca Ashford circ. 1748, St Martin's Church Birmingham They had a number of children one being John Small Jnr. Who was transported to Australia On the 1st Fleet. My knowledge of the family is very limited and would love to learn more. Can anyone help please Lyn Walker

----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Connell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 9:52 AM Subject: [WAR] Sidwells in Warwickshire > Reply to Helen in NZ sent off group as requested. Thanks Joe. To clarify I meant to highlight the question was forwarded on behalf of Helen, not to squash on-list discussion. Regards Peter

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HI, The IGI has several Tutin marriages at St. Phillips Birmingham. There is Thomas Tutin married 1817, Amelia married 1815 to John Hall, Francis Tutin married 1789 to William James, and Jane Tutin married 1812 to James Mewis. Amelia's parents were Benjamin and Amelia. There was no listing for Benjamin in Warwickshire but many Benjamin Tutin in Somerset. --- On Sun, 6/27/10, DAVID THOMAS <[email protected]> wrote: > From: DAVID THOMAS <[email protected]> > Subject: [WAR] Tutin Family > To: [email protected] > Date: Sunday, June 27, 2010, 1:37 PM > I am new to this list. > > I am looking for any members of the TUTIN family. At least > one was an architect practising in Birmingham at the > beginning of the 19th century. Also Martha b abt 1801 who > married William Thomas also an architect in 1826 in > Birmingham St Philip before moving to Leamington and then > emigrating to Canada in 1843. I have never been able to > trace Martha's family but I believe that William Thomas was > apprenticed to Richard Tutin  father/brother/uncle? of > Martha. > > Any help appreciated. > > David Thomas > Cornwall > > > List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

I am new to this list. I am looking for any members of the TUTIN family. At least one was an architect practising in Birmingham at the beginning of the 19th century. Also Martha b abt 1801 who married William Thomas also an architect in 1826 in Birmingham St Philip before moving to Leamington and then emigrating to Canada in 1843. I have never been able to trace Martha's family but I believe that William Thomas was apprenticed to Richard Tutin father/brother/uncle? of Martha. Any help appreciated. David Thomas Cornwall

Hi all, have been tracing the family of William Yardley [c1798] and Ann Wright [c1800] The family were living in Burton Dassett and the line i am on is William's son Thomas [1831-1904] wife Elizabeth Ann Stevens [1833] sons Levi [1854],William [18630, Thomas [ 1867], Fred [1872] and daughter Ruth Ann [1874] Any assistance with Parish Registers and such I would be most grateful for. Have transcribed almost all the post 1837 marriage registers in Glamorgan Archives and access to other marriage data for the East of the county which I am willing to look up. Cheers Taffy John _________________________________________________________________ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/197222280/direct/01/ We want to hear all your funny, exciting and crazy Hotmail stories. Tell us now

Answers to Helen (address below) please......... ----- Original Message ----- From: Helen [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 12:27 AM Subject: Sidwells from Warwickshire Hi Listers, I am new to this list I am trying to help look for the following if anyone can guide me in the right directions of where to start. Trying to find the ancestors or family of William Frederick Sidwell Born 2.1.1893 he was registered 9.2.1893 district of Foleshill & Sowe, County - Warwickshire. He served four years in France in WW1. He married Alice Stokes in Coventry ABT 1919 they emigrated to New Zealand about 1922. We don't know the ship or what port they left from. His parents were Thomas Sidwell and Sarah Elizabeth nee Allen. Possible children for Thomas and Sarah are: Thomas and Harry one daughter Alice. Any help really appreciated Thank you Helen From Nelson, New Zealand

Thank you Matt & Gus for your wonderful explanations. I have just gone back and had a look to find out that these records are in fact Bonds of Indemnity. I am not sure why I wrote down Identity, my apologies for the oversight. What you have both sent is wonderful, thank you once again. I will certainly have a good look at the website that you sent, Gus, have had a quick look, but have just got back from moving some yearling calves, and now have to feed the dogs. Matt, do you know of any of your relations living in NSW, my 1st cousin is married to one, (a Psychiatrist)? - the same spelling. Thanks once again for your wonderful help. Anne . [email protected] wrote: > Yes, thank you Anne, that is indeed enough context to enable me to answer your question. > > English law knows of no Bonds of Identity, but Bonds of Indemnity were common, so I think it must just be a typographical error, or maybe the person who originally calendared these documents misread Indemnity for Identity (easily done if, as was common in those days, the first 'n' and the 'm' were left out). A Bond of Indemnity was just a document in which one person guaranteed to repay expenses incurred by another person in certain defined circumstances (that's the indemnity part) and bound himself to pay a specified sum if he did not repay them (that's the bond part - the amount specified in the bond was always a large one, much more than the expected liability under the indemnity, in order to give the indemnifying party an incentive to pay up under the indemnity). > > You'll find an explanation of how Bonds of Indemnity were used in 17th-century poor law administration in this website, which I think refers to the very records you have found (scroll down to Settlement Papers and Certificates): > > http://shakespeare.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=95&Itemid=95 > > Matt > >

Hi Anne, There's no doubt that between us Matt and I settled your enquiry - he specifically to the direct point, and me much more loosely and generally, by attempting to give examples of Bonds with 'lump sums' involved. But I do rather wish I'd remembered that I'd got the copy of the Poor Law indemnity to Stratford Guardians when I was answering..... Gus > Thank you Matt & Gus for your wonderful explanations. I have just > gone back and had a look to find out that these records are in fact > Bonds of Indemnity.

Hello Matt, My records were from the Midlands Historical Data -- Poor Law Records. I found 5 records for some Horne records from Stratford on Avon. Horne Family were from Bishopton. Horne is my maiden name. There were payments of 40 pounds in 4 of the cases but 100 pounds in the other in 1648. This would have been an absolute fortune back in those days. Hope this clears it up for you. Anne [email protected] wrote: > Hello Anne, > > I don't think I've ever heard of a Bond of Identity. If you saw it referred to in an original document, do you think you might have misread Bond of Indemnity? > > If not, can you supply some context for the term? Where have you seen references to it? > > Matt Tompkins > > >