Hello Try Pickards Pink Pages on www.hunimex.com/warwick go to the B-M-D button on the left Locations index will take you to the transcriptions of the PRs If you lok under the St Lawrence ansley files you will find the following marriage 140 25 Sep 1804 John SHAW of Ansley Elizabeth CLARK of Ansley wits Thos WATSON William JACOMBS She signs X These are from my transcriptions of Ansley. From memory the witnesses were the church wardens. I have banns online also some baptisms and burials. Also try the census online on the PPP as you ay pick up more clues there. Good Hunting Wendy Boland Hi Listers Looking for baptism of David Shaw c1840 in Bentley Warwickshire ALso his parents marriage. They were Joseph SHAW and Mary Ann ?? and the marriage would have taken place around 1830-35 first child seems to have been born c1834. Joseph was bap 1812 in Ansley his parents were John SHAW and Elizabeth ?? also looking for that marriage also. Any help most appreciated. I have found the family on the 1841 and 1851 census and they were in New Zealand by 1859. many thanks Patsy

Hi Listers Looking for baptism of David Shaw c1840 in Bentley Warwickshire ALso his parents marriage. They were Joseph SHAW and Mary Ann ?? and the marriage would have taken place around 1830-35 first child seems to have been born c1834. Joseph was bap 1812 in Ansley his parents were John SHAW and Elizabeth ?? also looking for that marriage also. Any help most appreciated. I have found the family on the 1841 and 1851 census and they were in New Zealand by 1859. many thanks Patsy

Canada has the war enrollment for the expeditionary forces from England. It is on line. You might find some of your men there? Robyn, Qld. Oz On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Barbara Gray <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi all > I have just found that my great, great uncle Thomas Patrick Land [b 1879] > together with other siblings and inlaws moved from Birmingham to Ontario in > the > early 1900s. > > I have managed to find out quite a lot about Thomas and his brother George > Joseph from Ancestry but there Canadian records seem to stop around 1915. I > wondered if anyone knew of another source of Canadian records that I can > access > on line. I also had a look at Rootsweb but couldn't work out which, if > any, of > the other lists would help. > > Sorry if this is slightly out of area, but after searching for so long I'm > so > excited to have found them, I don't want to loose momentum!!! > > Thanks > Barbara > > > > List archives are at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Robyn Freney-Shaw Manager/Co-Ordinator Spiritus Soup Kitchen Toowoomba.

Thanks Nivard. Good suggestion. I have done so. Christina http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ Ireland Genealogy Project - Archives > Hi Christina > Do consider adding your information from the cert to a postem on freebmd > It may help others to decide if he is theirs or not , that would give > easy worldwide access > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >> Hi, >> I ordered a cert for Thomas HUNT. It is not the person I want. I >> wanted to share the information before I file it away. > 1868 Death in the Sub-district of St. Martin Birmingham in the County > of Warwick 21 Sept 1868 9 Philip Street

Hi Barbara, Did you ck. Ships Lists to see if you can find them there? - place of destinations is usually included. Ontario is a huge place so narrowing it down to at least a County or two would help. Do you know anything about his occupation? - that might be a clue to his destination in Ontario - new mines were being opened at this time in northern Ontario, new farmland was being measured out in midwestern and southern Ontario, while anyone with an idustrial trade might well have headed directly for Toronto area. Almost ever County in Ontario has an active and helpful gen. site that you can join and ask for help - ck into the Ontario Genealogical Society site for site addresses of the various counties. My father arrived in Canada in 1914 with his parents and siblings - found them on the Ships Lists although I'd known where they went to it was nice to get that copy. Also ck. Canadian immigration lists - all available thro Ancestry & Olive Tree. The Ontario Cemetery Finding Aid is great if you find any of them there, an ongoing project there to photo all the gravestones. Good luck, if I can help in any way be happy to do so. Kate (London, Ontario) At 05:48 AM 8/1/2010, you wrote: >Hi all >I have just found that my great, great uncle Thomas Patrick Land [b 1879] >together with other siblings and inlaws moved from Birmingham to >Ontario in the >early 1900s. > >I have managed to find out quite a lot about Thomas and his brother George >Joseph from Ancestry but there Canadian records seem to stop around 1915. I >wondered if anyone knew of another source of Canadian records that I >can access >on line. I also had a look at Rootsweb but couldn't work out which, >if any, of >the other lists would help. > >Sorry if this is slightly out of area, but after searching for so long I'm so >excited to have found them, I don't want to loose momentum!!! > >Thanks >Barbara > > > >List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message Kate Confidentiality Statement - The contents of this e-mail, including its attachment, are intended for the exclusive use of the recipient and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from reading, using, disclosing, copying, or distributing this e-mail or any of its contents. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail immediately and permanently delete this e-mail and its attachments, along with any copies thereof. Thank you.

Hi Christina Do consider adding your information from the cert to a postem on freebmd It may help others to decide if he is theirs or not , that would give easy worldwide access Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi, > I ordered a cert for Thomas HUNT. It is not the person I want. I wanted to > share > the information before I file it away. > > 1868 Death in the Sub-district of St. Martin Birmingham in the County of > Warwick > > 21 Sept 1868 9 Philip Street > Thomas Hunt > 63 years > Fruiterer Master > Disease of the Brain, certified > Signature of informant: Rebecca Hunt, Present at death. 9 Philip Street > Registered: 24th Sept 1868 > Registrar: S. Hollick, Deputy Registrar > > Hope that helps someone. > If anyone wants a scan, let me know off list. > Christina > [email protected] > Searching for Thomas Hunt (b. abt 1802) who m. Mary Ann Read.

Thank you David and Betty for your help, it has given me some useful leads. Thomas Patrick [I think he used Patrick] had one surviving daughter from his first marriage, Pearl Louisa Land b 1909. He married a 2nd time in 1915 and I am hoping to find out if he had any children from this marrige. I have a reference to 'Cousin Norman in Canada' which I hope may he his. Regards Barbara ________________________________ From: Roy & Betty Mullett <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, 1 August, 2010 11:18:49 Subject: Re: [WAR] Birmingham to Canada Hi Barbara You won't find much past 1915-1918. We like the UK have privacy laws that prevent publication of personal information. The LDS on familysearch.org has been doing some death and marriage records for B.C. but I don't know what they have for Ontario. It is worth a shot though. Have you found out whether he had a family. You might be able to find any children in newer Henderson directories or some such records. Good luck on your search. Betty Alberta, Canada

Thanks Marsha, I'll try the Ontario list. There just seemed to be so many, I didn't know which to try first. Regards Barbara ________________________________ From: Stringer <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, 1 August, 2010 16:20:11 Subject: Re: [WAR] Birmingham to Canada Hi, It took a while (2-5 years), but I found three separate lines of cousins from Selly Oak in Canada starting with similar information. I found the Ontario list very helpful, and expanded to more specific/regional lists as I learned more. You can Search Rootsweb for additional lists. There seems to be more recent information available re deaths/burials/MIs/obituaries. I was lead to one branch via the Commonwealth Graves site. http://www.cwgc.org/ I immediately recognized Alfred James MEERE, d 1916, age 19, WWI, Somme; "Son of Lucy Jane and the late Thomas James Meere, of Selly Oak, Birmingham". I was a few years slower to identify the only other MEERE, Leonard Raymond MEERE, d 1943, age 19, Canada (training mission); "Son of Thomas W. Meere and Edith Meere, of Sarnia" During the interval I had ordered several MEERE certificates, which included a Thomas/Edith marriage in Bham. The hint of recognition, with kind list assistance, led to finding additional family in Canada and confirming that Leonard Raymond was the nephew of Alfred James. Here are some other links that might help. Ontario Cemetery Finding Aid http://www.islandnet.com/ocfa/homepage.html Lots of area resources http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ Ontario Vital Statistics Project http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~onvsr/ Canada 411 http://www.canada411.ca/ Best of luck, Marsha Stringer (nee MEERE) [email protected] USA www.bittonfamilies.com -essage

Hi, It took a while (2-5 years), but I found three separate lines of cousins from Selly Oak in Canada starting with similar information. I found the Ontario list very helpful, and expanded to more specific/regional lists as I learned more. You can Search Rootsweb for additional lists. There seems to be more recent information available re deaths/burials/MIs/obituaries. I was lead to one branch via the Commonwealth Graves site. http://www.cwgc.org/ I immediately recognized Alfred James MEERE, d 1916, age 19, WWI, Somme; "Son of Lucy Jane and the late Thomas James Meere, of Selly Oak, Birmingham". I was a few years slower to identify the only other MEERE, Leonard Raymond MEERE, d 1943, age 19, Canada (training mission); "Son of Thomas W. Meere and Edith Meere, of Sarnia" During the interval I had ordered several MEERE certificates, which included a Thomas/Edith marriage in Bham. The hint of recognition, with kind list assistance, led to finding additional family in Canada and confirming that Leonard Raymond was the nephew of Alfred James. Here are some other links that might help. Ontario Cemetery Finding Aid http://www.islandnet.com/ocfa/homepage.html Lots of area resources http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ Ontario Vital Statistics Project http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~onvsr/ Canada 411 http://www.canada411.ca/ Best of luck, Marsha Stringer (nee MEERE) [email protected] USA www.bittonfamilies.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Barbara Gray Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 9:08 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WAR] Birmingham to Canada Thank you David and Betty for your help, it has given me some useful leads. Thomas Patrick [I think he used Patrick] had one surviving daughter from his first marriage, Pearl Louisa Land b 1909. He married a 2nd time in 1915 and I am hoping to find out if he had any children from this marrige. I have a reference to 'Cousin Norman in Canada' which I hope may he his. I have just found that my great, great uncle Thomas Patrick Land [b 1879] together with other siblings and in laws moved from Birmingham to Ontario in the early 1900s. Regards Barbara ________________________________ From: Roy & Betty Mullett <[email protected]> To: warwi[email protected] Sent: Sun, 1 August, 2010 11:18:49 Subject: Re: [WAR] Birmingham to Canada Hi Barbara You won't find much past 1915-1918. We like the UK have privacy laws that prevent publication of personal information. The LDS on familysearch.org has been doing some death and marriage records for B.C. but I don't know what they have for Ontario. It is worth a shot though. Have you found out whether he had a family. You might be able to find any children in newer Henderson directories or some such records. Good luck on your search. Betty Alberta, Canada

Barbara you could try the following http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/02/0201_e.html David Judd -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Barbara Gray Sent: 01 August 2010 10:49 To: Warwick Subject: [WAR] Birmingham to Canada Hi all I have just found that my great, great uncle Thomas Patrick Land [b 1879] together with other siblings and inlaws moved from Birmingham to Ontario in the early 1900s. I have managed to find out quite a lot about Thomas and his brother George Joseph from Ancestry but there Canadian records seem to stop around 1915. I wondered if anyone knew of another source of Canadian records that I can access on line. I also had a look at Rootsweb but couldn't work out which, if any, of the other lists would help. Sorry if this is slightly out of area, but after searching for so long I'm so excited to have found them, I don't want to loose momentum!!! Thanks Barbara List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all I have just found that my great, great uncle Thomas Patrick Land [b 1879] together with other siblings and inlaws moved from Birmingham to Ontario in the early 1900s. I have managed to find out quite a lot about Thomas and his brother George Joseph from Ancestry but there Canadian records seem to stop around 1915. I wondered if anyone knew of another source of Canadian records that I can access on line. I also had a look at Rootsweb but couldn't work out which, if any, of the other lists would help. Sorry if this is slightly out of area, but after searching for so long I'm so excited to have found them, I don't want to loose momentum!!! Thanks Barbara

Hi, I ordered a cert for Thomas HUNT. It is not the person I want. I wanted to share the information before I file it away. 1868 Death in the Sub-district of St. Martin Birmingham in the County of Warwick 21 Sept 1868 9 Philip Street Thomas Hunt 63 years Fruiterer Master Disease of the Brain, certified Signature of informant: Rebecca Hunt, Present at death. 9 Philip Street Registered: 24th Sept 1868 Registrar: S. Hollick, Deputy Registrar Hope that helps someone. If anyone wants a scan, let me know off list. Christina [email protected] Searching for Thomas Hunt (b. abt 1802) who m. Mary Ann Read.

Hi Barbara You won't find much past 1915-1918. We like the UK have privacy laws that prevent publication of personal information. The LDS on familysearch.org has been doing some death and marriage records for B.C. but I don't know what they have for Ontario. It is worth a shot though. Have you found out whether he had a family. You might be able to find any children in newer Henderson directories or some such records. Good luck on your search. Betty Alberta, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Gray" <[email protected]> To: "Warwick" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 3:48 AM Subject: [WAR] Birmingham to Canada > Hi all > I have just found that my great, great uncle Thomas Patrick Land [b 1879] > together with other siblings and inlaws moved from Birmingham to Ontario > in the > early 1900s. > > I have managed to find out quite a lot about Thomas and his brother George > Joseph from Ancestry but there Canadian records seem to stop around 1915. > I > wondered if anyone knew of another source of Canadian records that I can > access > on line. I also had a look at Rootsweb but couldn't work out which, if > any, of > the other lists would help. > > Sorry if this is slightly out of area, but after searching for so long I'm > so > excited to have found them, I don't want to loose momentum!!! > > Thanks > Barbara > > > > List archives are at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 5329 (20100731) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5329 (20100731) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com

Hi Ellen, Thanks also for the reinforcement that you do think this is really her. I'm still shaking my head that you managed to find her. As she didn't die until 1931, I knew she had to be somewhere. I tried a little searching for a maybe wife (Hannah, b 1864, per 1891 census) for 1866 Thomas BOND. There's a maybe 1889 marriage, with a Heather MORGAN as one of the listed brides. There's also a Hannah BOND death in 1897, age 36, a couple of years older than the 1891 census age. I couldn't come up with any likely deaths for Thomas, so don't know how the relationship with my Catherine Jane ended. Most of what I've found for my Selly Oak family has been in Birmingham (Library, etc.) I think the change from WOR to WAR was abt 1903? We met and spent time with several listers back in 2000 -- our first extended stay in the area. During the visit a lister friend drove us to the location where Catherine Jane died in 1931: Address: 27 High Street Harborne, U D. It's sort of still there. The area of the home has apparently been incorporated into an adjacent pub (per the gentleman we met from the pub). The steps, doors, windows have all been covered up (bricked/cemented over). I think times were difficult for Catherine Jane. Her husband was one of five brothers who all died in the 1880s, in their 20s/30s, perhaps of TB (ordered only Orlando's death cert). An elder sister died 1860s, soon after marrying). Three of the brothers left behind widows with several children; the fourth brother two children; the fifth not yet married. Since that first trip in 2000, I've managed to find members of most of the brothers, including several 2nd/3rd cousins. The different branches were not aware of the others. Our MEERE and THOMPSON lines originated in/around Bitton (between Bristol/Bath) and several of the family wills have been transcribed and are on the bittonfamilies website. Thanks again, Marsha Stringer (nee MEERE) [email protected] USA www.bittonfamilies.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ELLEN SPENCE Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 6:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WAR] Missing Catherine Jane MEERE in 1911 Census Hi Marsha It's them alright. As the street name of Station Road is quite a common one, I went back to the 1901 enumeration district description. Using a reasonably current A-Z street map of Birmingham and area, I can plot Thomas Bond's movements from 1891 onwards, and obviously Catherine Meere from 1901. The roads are still there, which is lucky. In 1891 Thomas is living on a main road that goes south to Harborne, in the Ladywood area, which is to the south west of Birmingham centre. The other 3 addresses are within a quarter mile, half mile max of one another. High Street Harborne runs west to east, linking up with Harborne Road, and swinging upwards, this eventually links to Monument Road. One of the roads leading off from High Street upwards is Station Road. Another road leading south from High Street is Vivian Road. Despite the inaccuracies in age and place of birth, I am fairly convinced Thomas and Catherine are the right people. Too much of a coincidence. Some further ways to research them more fully, but you either need to ask for someone on the ground to check some details out for you, or if you come over to England for a holiday, take a trip to Brum. 1. Trade directories - some are online - you may be able to track Thomas through his occupation or through street directories. 2. Rate books. 3. Electoral records. These won't show Catherine until 1919, as she won't have a vote until then, but you would then be able to track them to when they moved to various addresses exactly. The only thing I'm not sure about is whether these pieces of information would be held in Birmingham Central library, or elsewhere. I say this because the area you are looking at was assigned to Worcestershire, and it was only as Birmingham expanded and claimed more suburbs, that all the areas we now talk about as Birmingham came into the bigger pot. This was either late nineteenth or early twentieth century. It's not my area, but I'm sure one of the other regular posters would be able to enlighten us on that aspect. Anyway, it certainly seems to me that Catherine was living over the brush with Thomas, possibly because he was still married and couldn't get a divorce? I know he says he is widowed, but that could be another convenient blurring of facts. Lot of supposition, but I think the fact that they were living together and gave it out that they were married would be easy in a suburb of a big urban conurbation. Easy to be anonymous in the crowd. Regards Ellen

Graeme . Are you a member of Gum for someone in GUM has Beasley . Laurie Thompson Mount Waverley . -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Graeme Robinson Sent: Thursday, 29 July 2010 2:59 PM To: Warwick Geneaology Subject: [WAR] Ann ROBINSON Graeme ROBINSON from Langwarrin just 45 klm east of Melbourne Victoria Au Looking for Ancesters ROBINSON,Avery,Gardener and Beasley and all living Cousins whether here in Australia or overseas. >Hi All has been ages since last request , and was wondering if anyone had access to any of the latter census as still looking for Ann ROBINSON born Warmington botn Dec 1837 to Thomas Robinson and Elizabeth Beasley have parents details out to Australia also brother and sister but can not find Ann , Ann is listed on death certificate as living 1857 on brothers certificte but from there have not been able to find anything, also it would seem that Ann did not come out to Australia and would have been 18 19 at time when rest family did , hope some one can help me find this Ann Thank You Graeme Robinson List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Graeme ROBINSON from Langwarrin just 45 klm east of Melbourne Victoria Au Looking for Ancesters ROBINSON,Avery,Gardener and Beasley and all living Cousins whether here in Australia or overseas. >Hi All has been ages since last request , and was wondering if anyone had access to any of the latter census as still looking for Ann ROBINSON born Warmington botn Dec 1837 to Thomas Robinson and Elizabeth Beasley have parents details out to Australia also brother and sister but can not find Ann , Ann is listed on death certificate as living 1857 on brothers certificte but from there have not been able to find anything, also it would seem that Ann did not come out to Australia and would have been 18 19 at time when rest family did , hope some one can help me find this Ann Thank You Graeme Robinson

Hi There is a marriage record for a Ann Robinson to a John Evans in 1868 2qtr, vol 6d page 361. They appear in the 1871 census in London. Ann b. 1837 Warwickshire. There are two Evan children with them but they are older then the marriage date which would imply that John was previously married and living in Worcestershire where the boys were born. You might want to obtain this record to confirm the father's name and whether this is the correct Ann Robinson. Genealogy - connecting family trees   http://genfam.com/FAMILY/index2.html   Join the Genfam Newsletter and get the lastest links, databases, events and more delivered to you every month. --- On Thu, 7/29/10, Graeme Robinson <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Graeme Robinson <[email protected]> > Subject: [WAR] Ann ROBINSON > To: "Warwick Geneaology" <[email protected]> > Date: Thursday, July 29, 2010, 12:59 AM > > > > Graeme ROBINSON from Langwarrin just 45 klm east of > Melbourne Victoria Au Looking for Ancesters > ROBINSON,Avery,Gardener and Beasley and all living Cousins > whether here in Australia or overseas. > > > > >Hi All has been ages since last request , and was > wondering if anyone had access to any of the latter census > as still looking for Ann ROBINSON born Warmington botn Dec > 1837 to Thomas Robinson and Elizabeth Beasley  have > parents details out to Australia also brother and sister but > can not find Ann , Ann is listed on death certificate as > living 1857 on brothers certificte but from there have not > been able to find anything, also it would seem that Ann did > not come out to Australia and would have been 18 19 at time > when rest family did , hope some one can help me find this > Ann > > Thank You > Graeme Robinson >     >          >            >   > List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Hello Graeme, Could this be Ann in the 1861 census of St Nicholas Warwick living with married sister Sarah & her family: RG9/2226, folio 7, page 7 Smith Street John TAYLOR Head Mar 32 Letter Carrier Warwick Sarah do Wife Mar 26 Laundress do Ann ROBINSON Wife's sister Unm 24 do do Mary Lucy TAYLOR Brother's daughter 7 Scholar do There is a marriage registration on the GRO in the March qtr 1854 at Warwick reg district of a Sarah ROBINSON and one of the other names on the page is that of a John TAYLOR. Can't find her on subsequent census records but of course she may have married. Janet >>Hi All has been ages since last request , and was wondering if anyone had >>access to any of the latter census as still looking for Ann ROBINSON born >>Warmington botn Dec 1837 to Thomas Robinson and Elizabeth Beasley have >>parents details out to Australia also brother and sister but can not find >>Ann , Ann is listed on death certificate as living 1857 on brothers >>certificte but from there have not been able to find anything, also it >>would seem that Ann did not come out to Australia and would have been 18 >>19 at time when rest family did , hope some one can help me find this Ann

Hi Marsha It's them alright. As the street name of Station Road is quite a common one, I went back to the 1901 enumeration district description. Using a reasonably current A-Z street map of Birmingham and area, I can plot Thomas Bond's movements from 1891 onwards, and obviously Catherine Meere from 1901. The roads are still there, which is lucky. In 1891 Thomas is living on a main road that goes south to Harborne, in the Ladywood area, which is to the south west of Birmingham centre. The other 3 addresses are within a quarter mile, half mile max of one another. High Street Harborne runs west to east, linking up with Harborne Road, and swinging upwards, this eventually links to Monument Road. One of the roads leading off from High Street upwards is Station Road. Another road leading south from High Street is Vivian Road. Despite the inaccuracies in age and place of birth, I am fairly convinced Thomas and Catherine are the right people. Too much of a coincidence. Some further ways to research them more fully, but you either need to ask for someone on the ground to check some details out for you, or if you come over to England for a holiday, take a trip to Brum. 1. Trade directories - some are online - you may be able to track Thomas through his occupation or through street directories. 2. Rate books. 3. Electoral records. These won't show Catherine until 1919, as she won't have a vote until then, but you would then be able to track them to when they moved to various addresses exactly. The only thing I'm not sure about is whether these pieces of information would be held in Birmingham Central library, or elsewhere. I say this because the area you are looking at was assigned to Worcestershire, and it was only as Birmingham expanded and claimed more suburbs, that all the areas we now talk about as Birmingham came into the bigger pot. This was either late nineteenth or early twentieth century. It's not my area, but I'm sure one of the other regular posters would be able to enlighten us on that aspect. Anyway, it certainly seems to me that Catherine was living over the brush with Thomas, possibly because he was still married and couldn't get a divorce? I know he says he is widowed, but that could be another convenient blurring of facts. Lot of supposition, but I think the fact that they were living together and gave it out that they were married would be easy in a suburb of a big urban conurbation. Easy to be anonymous in the crowd. Regards Ellen ________________________________ From: Stringer <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, 28 July, 2010 22:25:02 Subject: Re: [WAR] Missing Catherine Jane MEERE in 1911 Census Hi Ellen, Wow, never thought of that variant! Thank You so much! Do you think the additional details support the hypothesis? Different address, but same area. He's the same age in the censuses. Catherine (really b 1851) said 1854 in 1901 and 1860 in 1911 (reverse aging). Catherine had always said b Ilmington before, but he filled out/signed in 1911. For 1891, there's a Thomas BOND,25, in Lady Wood, Cab Driver, 150, Monument Road, Birmingham (married) 1901 Census. Finally found via MaryAnn, as MAN. Then found Catherine's Index, also MAN: 47 Warwickshire Hennington (really Ilmington) Birmingham Harborne General Domestic (Really Age 50) RG13 Piece: 2817 Folio: 109 Page: 17 Birmingham, CivPar: Harborne; EclPar: St. John's; Cty: Bham; Ward: Edgbaston; Parl: Edgbaston; 106 Elmwood, VillaStationRd? Thomas BOND Hd Wid 35/abt 1866 Coachman's Domestic Warwickshire, Birmingham Catherine J. MEERE Serv Wid 47/abt 1854 General Domestic Warwickshire, Ilmington Mary Ann MEERE Dau S 16 Worcestershire, Selly Oak Violet FLOOD Serv S 11 Warwickshire, Birmingham 1911 Census Reg: Kings Norton Sub District: Edgbaston ED: 25 Parish: Harborne Address: 39 Vivian Road Harborne B'gham County: Worcestershire Thomas Bond BOND, Thomas Head/M 46/1865 Job Master Birmingham BOND, Catherine Jane Wife/M/20 years 51/1860 Birmingham DUGMORE, Bert MansServant/S 25/1886 Groom Birmingham 1931 Death Address: 27 High Street Harborne, U D. Thanks again, Marsha Stringer (nee MEERE) [email protected] USA www.bittonfamilies.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ELLEN SPENCE Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 1:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WAR] Missing Catherine Jane MEERE in 1911 Census Further to the last posting, I looked for Thomas Bond, who is still in Harborne. Interesting! He has a wife, one Catherine Jane Bond, aged 51, and they have been married 20 years apparently. I suspect they might have been living together, but not legally married. See what you think. Ellen ________________________________ From: Stringer <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, 28 July, 2010 17:41:28 Subject: [WAR] Missing Catherine Jane MEERE in 1911 Census Greetings, I'm still not able to find my Ggrandmother in the 1911 Census (do have membership). I've tried various search options, all with no results. Any suggestions? She's Catherine Jane MEERE (nee ARCHER) Born: 1851, Ilmington, Warwickshire M: 1868, Birmingham, Orlando John MEERE D: 1931, Edgbaston, Birmingham South, England (Sixth May, 1931 27 High Street Harborne, U D. Virtue L. Gittins present 47 Linden Road, Bournville, Birmingham) 1891 Census: She, my grandfather, and four GAunts are still at The Oak Inn, Selly Oak. 1901 Census (indexed MAN): Catherine Jane MEERE, Wid, Servant to Thomas BOND Harborne; EclPar: St. John's; Cty: Bham; Ward: Edgbaston; Parl: Edgbaston; 106 Elmwood, VillaStationRd? Marsha Stringer (nee MEERE) [email protected] USA www.bittonfamilies.com List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Further to the last posting, I looked for Thomas Bond, who is still in Harborne. Interesting! He has a wife, one Catherine Jane Bond, aged 51, and they have been married 20 years apparently. I suspect they might have been living together, but not legally married. See what you think. Ellen ________________________________ From: Stringer <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, 28 July, 2010 17:41:28 Subject: [WAR] Missing Catherine Jane MEERE in 1911 Census Greetings, I'm still not able to find my Ggrandmother in the 1911 Census (do have membership). I've tried various search options, all with no results. Any suggestions? Some attempts after MEERE, variants; Catherine, variants: C* , b 1851 +/- 10 years; b Ilmington, Warwickshire M*, b 1851, +/- 10 years; b Ilmington, Warwickshire Pretty sure not her: MEERS, CATHERINE 68/b 1843 F PATIENT [too old, but saving searches] (From exploring earlier censuses, etc., think this is Catherine, nee HEAVEN, b Bristol, who m. Cornelius MEERS in Bham) She's Catherine Jane MEERE (nee ARCHER) Born: 1851, Ilmington, Warwickshire M: 1868, Birmingham, Orlando John MEERE D: 1931, Edgbaston, Birmingham South, England (Sixth May, 1931 27 High Street Harborne, U D. Virtue L. Gittins present 47 Linden Road, Bournville, Birmingham) 1891 Census: She, my grandfather, and four GAunts are still at The Oak Inn, Selly Oak. 1901 Census (indexed MAN): Catherine Jane MEERE, Wid, Servant to Thomas BOND Harborne; EclPar: St. John's; Cty: Bham; Ward: Edgbaston; Parl: Edgbaston; 106 Elmwood, VillaStationRd? Marsha Stringer (nee MEERE) [email protected] USA www.bittonfamilies.com List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message