Apologies John I have tried to check out the freecensus website - only returns I get (1851 only one anything turned up for) for the "Union Passage" address don't include J Norris. Tried searching on "J Norris" but didn't manage to get any in Union Passage. Will check out the directories and see what I can find. Thanks for your suggestions. Cheers Karen

"J Norris" "Union Passage" "Birmingham" Hello listers I have a photograph which I am trying to date, taken by the above photographer. Can anyone help me narrow it down? I suspect 1850s or 1860s. Cheers Karen

Greetings, This is a branch of the family I haven't been able to find. Posting just in case anyone recognizes them. Frank George and Edith Mary were the children of 1858 Henry Frank MEERE and 1858 Kate Emily THOMPSON (first cousins; m 1882 Ladywood ). 1858-1887 Henry was a brother of my Orlando John MEERE. Henry Frank died 1887; Kate Emily m. 1845 Frederick William GELL in 1898; Frederick Wm died 1923; have not found Kate's death. 1891 Census *Widow Kate 33 Head of household at Hazelwell Halls, Kings Norton *Son 1882 Frank is a scholar, at the home of his grandmother, MaryAnn MEERE, 70 Pershore Road, Selly Oak (he is later named in her 1898 will) *Daughter 1885 Edith is a nurse child in the home of the WILKINSON family in Ladywood 1901 Census *Kate, 2nd husband Frederick GELL, and daughter Edith (as Ada): 20 Poplar Road Kings Norton *Son Frank G. MEERE is 18, a boarder in Aston, Occ Railway Engine Cleaner 1911 Census *Kate and Frederick GELL (cabinet maker, upholsterer) are still at 20 Poplar Road, (Kings Heath) *Edith and Thomas CLEMENTS (GPO Clerk, Engineering Dept) are married less than a year, at 156 Taylor Rd, King's Heath. No CLEMENTS births found with mother nee MEERE; no recognizable death and/or remarriage, etc. *Can't find Frank George MEERE anywhere. No marriage, death, emigration, noted war participation, directory entries, etc. Marsha Stringer (nee MEERE) [email protected] USA www.bittonfamilies.com

Hi Karen, 1850's was early days indeed for photography - whilst I do have several references to Joseph Norris in Union Passage (see my web page on http://www.hunimex.com/warwick/photogs.html) I don't really have a date for the studio. What quality is the photo ? Do you have the 'negative' - is it, orh the photo on a glass plate ? That may help date it. Try doing a search for him on the web.... I came up with the following: in 1861 census he was 28 (e.g. born about 1833) and a photographer living at 336 Butcher Place If I have the same guy in 1851 he was living with his parents at 78 Lichfield st, and occupation was 'Mathematical Instrumer' probably working for his father He is reported to have died in 1885 I thus doubt the photo is as early as 1850's I looked at an 1862 directory of Birmingham, and he was a 'photographic artist' in Union Passage then That would put your picture at earliest 1860 - if it was one of his first pictures, through to about 1890s, if the business carried on using his name after his death - at some time it became the "Birmingham Photographic Studio" Hope that helps Happy Hunting Pickard Trepess ----- Original Message ----- From: "A & K Hitchcock" <[email protected]a.co.nz> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 4:54 AM Subject: [WAR] Photographer - Dates > > > > "J Norris" > "Union Passage" > "Birmingham" > > Hello listers > > I have a photograph which I am trying to date, taken by the above > photographer. > > Can anyone help me narrow it down? > > I suspect 1850s or 1860s. > > Cheers > Karen > > >

Join the Birmingham History Forum there is a section for directory look ups, electoral rolls etc. http://forum.birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum.php Mike in Droitwich A & K Hitchcock wrote: > Apologies John > > I have tried to check out the freecensus website - only returns I get > (1851 only one anything turned up for) for the "Union Passage" address > don't include J Norris. Tried searching on "J Norris" but didn't > manage to get any in Union Passage. > > Will check out the directories and see what I can find. > Thanks for your suggestions. > > Cheers > Karen > > > List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Karen, Regarding the use of the Directory site for the Norris photographer - You will find he was listed in a directory in 1862. Search " Norris w/10 Union " [i.e. looking for the two words within ten words of each other] and there are plenty of hits - some of course will be incorrect!! John

Hello Karen, You are hunting for a photographer "J Norris" "Union Passage" "Birmingham" Have you tried directories at http://www.historicaldirectories.org ... and of course the census if [as often] he lived over the shop. Probably stating the obvious, but you haven't told us what you have tried already. Good hunting John John P H Frearson Researching the Speight Family of Photographers www.johnphfrearson.host22.com/Speight-Photographers.html

Further information:Researching Lloyd family Father John Lloyd originally from scunthorpe and Staffordshire Children: William Hamlet (a florist) Doncaster Jack,a miner Hilda,Gladys,Eileen and Florrie Harold Jim from Nottingham Any descendants or family of the above would be of great assistance Mary Jean Oram -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mary Oram Sent: Monday, 9 August 2010 2:33 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WAR] Harold Lloyd and Hamlet Lloyd Hi,My second name is Jean,use that one mostly1.My father had several brothers,James was another,don't know yhe names of the others.The name Hamlet was unusual,so I remembered that -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mary Oram Sent: Sunday, 8 August 2010 8:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WAR] Harold Lloyd and Hamlet Lloyd -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: Sunday, 8 August 2010 7:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WAR] Harold Lloyd and Hamlet Lloyd Hi Mary (or is it Jean?) Was your Hamlet the one born 1895? Name: Hamlet Lloyd Year of Registration: 1895 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Cannock County: Staffordshire Volume: 6b Page: 568 Possible marriage Name: Hamlet Lloyd Spouse Surname: Mason Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1925 Registration district: Rotherham Registration county (inferred): Yorkshire - West Riding Volume Number: 9c Page Number: 885 Name: Elsie M Mason Spouse Surname: Lloyd Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1925 Registration district: Rotherham Registration county (inferred): Yorkshire - West Riding Volume Number: 9c Page Number: 885 And death reg Name: Hamlet Lloyd Death Registration Month/Year: 1968 Age at death (estimated): 73 Registration district: Doncaster Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding Volume: 2b Page: 529 ==================== Thankyou! Yes it is my father.I have contacted the links you sent me,but they cannot find records of his interrment. Jean Is this your father Name: Harold Lloyd Birth Date: 27 Jan 1905 Death Registration Month/Year: 1972 Registration district: Nuneaton Inferred County: Warwickshire Volume: 9c Page: 2123 For a burial this would seem a good place to start http://www.nuneatonandbedworth.gov.uk/community-living/funerals-cremations/c emeteries There is a phone number which I tend to find gets the best response if only where to write to Re your hospital records , they are usually covered by a 75 or 100 closure anyway and may not state where he was buried Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Everyone > I have just joined the list and hoping SKS can help me with the > following My father Harold died in 1972 in High View Hospital Bedworth > Warwick I have been trying to locate where he was buried and as the > hospital records are archived or not available the council could not > help with this information. > > I am also trying to locate any information on his brother Hamlet Lloyd > and family. > > Regs > Jean Oram Wallaroo South Australia > Researching Lloyd, Oram in the UK and South Australia List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3057 - Release Date: 08/07/10 18:12:00 List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3057 - Release Date: 08/07/10 18:12:00 List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3059 - Release Date: 08/08/10 17:57:00

Hi All, Long shot, but anyone on the Warks list know of any Britton researcher who can locate the owner of this album ? Happy Hunting Pickard From: "Malcolm Austen" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 8:11 PM To: "GOONS" <[email protected]>; "SoG" <[email protected]>; "SFHG" <[email protected]> Subject: [SOG-UK] Seeking a BRITTON, possibly in SSX (lost photo album) From BBC SE News: "Hunt for owner of lost family photo album" A photo album left in a West Sussex pub, named owner Joyce P C BRITTON and numerous other BITTONs named in the album. Sample photos on <URL: http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/sussex/hi/people_and_places/history/newsid_8902000/8902551.stm or go to <URL: http://bbc.co.uk/sussex/ > and click the link on there. Malcolm. Malcolm Austen, Oxfordshire, England

Hi Listers Looking for a marriage for Ann TOONE to Joseph SHAW would have been about 1850 (its is not on Free BMD) The SHAW family were living in Bentley at the time and Joseph's first wife Mary Ann ?? (also cant find THIS marriage c1834) she must have died. His Will here in NZ stated that his last 4 children were from his second wife (extremely helpful of him I must say!) On LDS Family Search I found a baptism for an Ann TOONE on 5 Apr 1818 in Baxterley (just a stones throw from Bentley) and this could be her but nothing for a marriage sadly. I would appreciate any help thanks Patsy

Marriage on IGI 29 Nov 1847 Joseph Shaw to Ann TOON at St Thomas, Birmingham. This is listed on FreeBMD as well. Birmingham 16 539 Dec Q 1847 Regards Ellen ________________________________ From: Patsy <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, 10 August, 2010 10:26:33 Subject: [WAR] Marriage Ann TOONE/Joseph SHAW Hi Listers Looking for a marriage for Ann TOONE to Joseph SHAW would have been about 1850 (its is not on Free BMD) The SHAW family were living in Bentley at the time and Joseph's first wife Mary Ann ?? (also cant find THIS marriage c1834) she must have died. His Will here in NZ stated that his last 4 children were from his second wife (extremely helpful of him I must say!) On LDS Family Search I found a baptism for an Ann TOONE on 5 Apr 1818 in Baxterley (just a stones throw from Bentley) and this could be her but nothing for a marriage sadly. I would appreciate any help thanks Patsy List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi,My second name is Jean,use that one mostly1.My father had several brothers,James was another,don't know yhe names of the others.The name Hamlet was unusual,so I remembered that -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mary Oram Sent: Sunday, 8 August 2010 8:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WAR] Harold Lloyd and Hamlet Lloyd -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: Sunday, 8 August 2010 7:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WAR] Harold Lloyd and Hamlet Lloyd Hi Mary (or is it Jean?) Was your Hamlet the one born 1895? Name: Hamlet Lloyd Year of Registration: 1895 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Cannock County: Staffordshire Volume: 6b Page: 568 Possible marriage Name: Hamlet Lloyd Spouse Surname: Mason Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1925 Registration district: Rotherham Registration county (inferred): Yorkshire - West Riding Volume Number: 9c Page Number: 885 Name: Elsie M Mason Spouse Surname: Lloyd Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1925 Registration district: Rotherham Registration county (inferred): Yorkshire - West Riding Volume Number: 9c Page Number: 885 And death reg Name: Hamlet Lloyd Death Registration Month/Year: 1968 Age at death (estimated): 73 Registration district: Doncaster Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding Volume: 2b Page: 529 ==================== Thankyou! Yes it is my father.I have contacted the links you sent me,but they cannot find records of his interrment. Jean Is this your father Name: Harold Lloyd Birth Date: 27 Jan 1905 Death Registration Month/Year: 1972 Registration district: Nuneaton Inferred County: Warwickshire Volume: 9c Page: 2123 For a burial this would seem a good place to start http://www.nuneatonandbedworth.gov.uk/community-living/funerals-cremations/c emeteries There is a phone number which I tend to find gets the best response if only where to write to Re your hospital records , they are usually covered by a 75 or 100 closure anyway and may not state where he was buried Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Everyone > I have just joined the list and hoping SKS can help me with the > following My father Harold died in 1972 in High View Hospital Bedworth > Warwick I have been trying to locate where he was buried and as the > hospital records are archived or not available the council could not > help with this information. > > I am also trying to locate any information on his brother Hamlet Lloyd > and family. > > Regs > Jean Oram Wallaroo South Australia > Researching Lloyd, Oram in the UK and South Australia List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3057 - Release Date: 08/07/10 18:12:00 List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3057 - Release Date: 08/07/10 18:12:00

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: Sunday, 8 August 2010 7:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WAR] Harold Lloyd and Hamlet Lloyd Hi Mary (or is it Jean?) Was your Hamlet the one born 1895? Name: Hamlet Lloyd Year of Registration: 1895 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Cannock County: Staffordshire Volume: 6b Page: 568 Possible marriage Name: Hamlet Lloyd Spouse Surname: Mason Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1925 Registration district: Rotherham Registration county (inferred): Yorkshire - West Riding Volume Number: 9c Page Number: 885 Name: Elsie M Mason Spouse Surname: Lloyd Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1925 Registration district: Rotherham Registration county (inferred): Yorkshire - West Riding Volume Number: 9c Page Number: 885 And death reg Name: Hamlet Lloyd Death Registration Month/Year: 1968 Age at death (estimated): 73 Registration district: Doncaster Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding Volume: 2b Page: 529 ==================== Thankyou! Yes it is my father.I have contacted the links you sent me,but they cannot find records of his interrment. Jean Is this your father Name: Harold Lloyd Birth Date: 27 Jan 1905 Death Registration Month/Year: 1972 Registration district: Nuneaton Inferred County: Warwickshire Volume: 9c Page: 2123 For a burial this would seem a good place to start http://www.nuneatonandbedworth.gov.uk/community-living/funerals-cremations/c emeteries There is a phone number which I tend to find gets the best response if only where to write to Re your hospital records , they are usually covered by a 75 or 100 closure anyway and may not state where he was buried Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Everyone > I have just joined the list and hoping SKS can help me with the > following My father Harold died in 1972 in High View Hospital Bedworth > Warwick I have been trying to locate where he was buried and as the > hospital records are archived or not available the council could not > help with this information. > > I am also trying to locate any information on his brother Hamlet Lloyd > and family. > > Regs > Jean Oram Wallaroo South Australia > Researching Lloyd, Oram in the UK and South Australia List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3057 - Release Date: 08/07/10 18:12:00

Hi Everyone I have just joined the list and hoping SKS can help me with the following My father Harold died in 1972 in High View Hospital Bedworth Warwick I have been trying to locate where he was buried and as the hospital records are archived or not available the council could not help with this information. I am also trying to locate any information on his brother Hamlet Lloyd and family. Regs Jean Oram Wallaroo South Australia Researching Lloyd, Oram in the UK and South Australia

Hi Mary (or is it Jean?) Was your Hamlet the one born 1895? Name: Hamlet Lloyd Year of Registration: 1895 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Cannock County: Staffordshire Volume: 6b Page: 568 Possible marriage Name: Hamlet Lloyd Spouse Surname: Mason Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1925 Registration district: Rotherham Registration county (inferred): Yorkshire - West Riding Volume Number: 9c Page Number: 885 Name: Elsie M Mason Spouse Surname: Lloyd Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1925 Registration district: Rotherham Registration county (inferred): Yorkshire - West Riding Volume Number: 9c Page Number: 885 And death reg Name: Hamlet Lloyd Death Registration Month/Year: 1968 Age at death (estimated): 73 Registration district: Doncaster Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding Volume: 2b Page: 529 ==================== Is this your father Name: Harold Lloyd Birth Date: 27 Jan 1905 Death Registration Month/Year: 1972 Registration district: Nuneaton Inferred County: Warwickshire Volume: 9c Page: 2123 For a burial this would seem a good place to start http://www.nuneatonandbedworth.gov.uk/community-living/funerals-cremations/cemeteries There is a phone number which I tend to find gets the best response if only where to write to Re your hospital records , they are usually covered by a 75 or 100 closure anyway and may not state where he was buried Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Everyone > I have just joined the list and hoping SKS can help me with the following > My father Harold died in 1972 in High View Hospital Bedworth Warwick > I have been trying to locate where he was buried and as the hospital > records are archived or not available the council could not help with > this > information. > > I am also trying to locate any information on his brother Hamlet Lloyd and > family. > > Regs > Jean Oram Wallaroo South Australia > Researching Lloyd, Oram in the UK and South Australia

Hi Gus, Thanks very much for your response, the geography of it all helps make more sense & understanding doesn't it, Regards, Garry -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gus Tysoe Sent: 07 August 2010 14:33 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WAR] "Richard LONG, Elizabeth SMITH & Family - Worcester/Gloucester/Warwick" Hello Gary, I can't help very much with the family, but may be able to give a little assistance on the Geography... But to keep the WAR connection running, George in 1851 sounds as if he *may* have served as Apprentice to the head of the household, and had only just completed his time. A journeyman would be an Employee, and would therefore qualify as a 'Servant' by the word-usage of the time. The rest is all Worcestershire - and with nary a hint of Gloucestershire as far as the references to theLONGs are concerned... Evenlode was one of Worcestershire's many detached portions - an Island Parish surrounded on 3 sides by Gloucestershire, and the 4th by Oxfordshire, while its northernmost point touched Warwickshire - and remained so for appreciably longer than any of your listed LONGs ever did. It was finally handed-over to Gloucestershire in 1931 in a fairly-major set of Parish-swappings involving WOR, GLS - and WAR, so the connection's still there. And it was in Stow on the Wold Registration District... HTH Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garry Long" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 12:54 PM Subject: [WAR] "Richard LONG,Elizabeth SMITH & Family - Worcester/Gloucester/Warwick" > Hi, > > Just wondered if anyone could link in to the above couple & family - they > are my g-g-g-grandparents & so far the only Census we can find them on is > the 1841 for Hanley Castle in the County of Worcester (HO107/1205/1 Pg 28) > both aged 30 yrs & born in same County. Richard & Elizabeth were married > in > Evenlode, Gloucester in 1827. > > On page 29 it lists their children at the time and Elizabeth's mother:- > Elizabeth LONG age 12 - my g-g-grandmother > George LONG age 10 > Mary LONG age 8 > William LONG age 3 > Joyce LONG age 1 > Hannah SMITH age 60 > > All above born in same County > > In 1851 Elizabeth LONG (child) was living with her husband, mother-in-law > & > son in Wolverley, Worcs. > George LONG was living at 49 Coleshill Street, Birmingham with a family > whose Head was a Grocer. George's trade was listed as Journeyman but > relationship to head was Servant. Birthplace listed as Evenlode, > Worcester > Mary LONG was living at Old Walsall Road, Handsworth, Birmingham. She was > listed as a servant & the head was a Retired Agent. Mary's birthplace was > also listed as Evenlode, Worcester. > We cannot locate William LONG & Joyce LONG on the 1851 Census so the > chances > are that they died young. Looking on FreeBMD it seems they were both > possibly born at Stow-on-the-Wold. > > If anyone can link in to any of the above family it would be great to hear > from you, or if anyone can add/help with more information it would be > greatly appreciated, > > > Regards, > Garry LONG, Warwickshire > > > List archives are at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry, not me. You can post a message there if you join for free. You can't actually contact the person, but you can post a message on the correct section where they are, e.g. Bevingtons of blah blah.....the person then gets a message that there is a new post and can read it, and so on. So you can both read the messages on the site, you just can't post each other direct, if that is the way to say it. SO...you need to join for free, put in the right place and name, and write your message on the page, maybe not all of it, just maybe the bare details, then anyone else wanting info on that can get back to you via the page and YOU will then get a message that someone has replied. A good service if you do not particularly want to join yet another group. Some sites are strange....I had one from Qld. quite a large one, where a member wanted info on a family and I had heaps. Contacted them and told them that their member so and so was asking and that I had heaps of info and could they tell her that. Got a rude email back saying you can't access details without joining. I sent one back pointing out that I WANTED nothing, I had most of it, I was trying to GIVE it. Got no response that time. SO their member who wants stuff will not get it because the rude secretary said so. Now I guess I could write to them and put on the outsidfe of the envelope for member such and such, but what if it gets opened by the sec who then emails me AGAIN!! She just did not read my email first, then didn't want to admit that was the case...like I am worried??. Robyn Shaw, Qld. Oz On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Sandra Todd <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi - I have just been browsing through the Curious Fox site and noted > some one looking for Bevingtons. If it's you please make contact. I have > lots of stuff, particularly on the Quaker group - I don't want to have to > pay £5 to send it to you....! > Regards Sandra > List archives are at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Robyn Freney-Shaw Manager/Co-Ordinator Spiritus Soup Kitchen Toowoomba.

Hello Gary, I can't help very much with the family, but may be able to give a little assistance on the Geography... But to keep the WAR connection running, George in 1851 sounds as if he *may* have served as Apprentice to the head of the household, and had only just completed his time. A journeyman would be an Employee, and would therefore qualify as a 'Servant' by the word-usage of the time. The rest is all Worcestershire - and with nary a hint of Gloucestershire as far as the references to theLONGs are concerned... Evenlode was one of Worcestershire's many detached portions - an Island Parish surrounded on 3 sides by Gloucestershire, and the 4th by Oxfordshire, while its northernmost point touched Warwickshire - and remained so for appreciably longer than any of your listed LONGs ever did. It was finally handed-over to Gloucestershire in 1931 in a fairly-major set of Parish-swappings involving WOR, GLS - and WAR, so the connection's still there. And it was in Stow on the Wold Registration District... HTH Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garry Long" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 12:54 PM Subject: [WAR] "Richard LONG,Elizabeth SMITH & Family - Worcester/Gloucester/Warwick" > Hi, > > Just wondered if anyone could link in to the above couple & family - they > are my g-g-g-grandparents & so far the only Census we can find them on is > the 1841 for Hanley Castle in the County of Worcester (HO107/1205/1 Pg 28) > both aged 30 yrs & born in same County. Richard & Elizabeth were married > in > Evenlode, Gloucester in 1827. > > On page 29 it lists their children at the time and Elizabeth's mother:- > Elizabeth LONG age 12 - my g-g-grandmother > George LONG age 10 > Mary LONG age 8 > William LONG age 3 > Joyce LONG age 1 > Hannah SMITH age 60 > > All above born in same County > > In 1851 Elizabeth LONG (child) was living with her husband, mother-in-law > & > son in Wolverley, Worcs. > George LONG was living at 49 Coleshill Street, Birmingham with a family > whose Head was a Grocer. George's trade was listed as Journeyman but > relationship to head was Servant. Birthplace listed as Evenlode, > Worcester > Mary LONG was living at Old Walsall Road, Handsworth, Birmingham. She was > listed as a servant & the head was a Retired Agent. Mary's birthplace was > also listed as Evenlode, Worcester. > We cannot locate William LONG & Joyce LONG on the 1851 Census so the > chances > are that they died young. Looking on FreeBMD it seems they were both > possibly born at Stow-on-the-Wold. > > If anyone can link in to any of the above family it would be great to hear > from you, or if anyone can add/help with more information it would be > greatly appreciated, > > > Regards, > Garry LONG, Warwickshire > > > List archives are at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi - I have just been browsing through the Curious Fox site and noted some one looking for Bevingtons. If it's you please make contact. I have lots of stuff, particularly on the Quaker group - I don't want to have to pay £5 to send it to you....! Regards Sandra

Hi, Just wondered if anyone could link in to the above couple & family - they are my g-g-g-grandparents & so far the only Census we can find them on is the 1841 for Hanley Castle in the County of Worcester (HO107/1205/1 Pg 28) both aged 30 yrs & born in same County. Richard & Elizabeth were married in Evenlode, Gloucester in 1827. On page 29 it lists their children at the time and Elizabeth's mother:- Elizabeth LONG age 12 - my g-g-grandmother George LONG age 10 Mary LONG age 8 William LONG age 3 Joyce LONG age 1 Hannah SMITH age 60 All above born in same County In 1851 Elizabeth LONG (child) was living with her husband, mother-in-law & son in Wolverley, Worcs. George LONG was living at 49 Coleshill Street, Birmingham with a family whose Head was a Grocer. George's trade was listed as Journeyman but relationship to head was Servant. Birthplace listed as Evenlode, Worcester Mary LONG was living at Old Walsall Road, Handsworth, Birmingham. She was listed as a servant & the head was a Retired Agent. Mary's birthplace was also listed as Evenlode, Worcester. We cannot locate William LONG & Joyce LONG on the 1851 Census so the chances are that they died young. Looking on FreeBMD it seems they were both possibly born at Stow-on-the-Wold. If anyone can link in to any of the above family it would be great to hear from you, or if anyone can add/help with more information it would be greatly appreciated, Regards, Garry LONG, Warwickshire