Hi Gus & Christopher Many of the Overseas indexes including the Consular Indexes are available for free on http://www.familyrelatives.com/ There are also Regimental Births & Marriages which may come in handy You need to register but not give CC details I have used them to good effect on many occasions If the wife is from India it would be worth checking Fibis also Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > >From the absence of any likely marriage - or of the 2 daughters' births - > >on > FreeBMD, coupled with the fact that he was 'retiring' from South Africa, > the > likely implication is that he married "abroad", and with a quite high > probability that all occurred in South Africa. > > His rank as Major makes it not unlikely that the marriage and births may > well be in the GRO's 'Miscellaneous Indices', probably the Army Marriages > and Army Births. These *are* held on one of the Subscription Sites - but > not > by Ancestry... > > HTH > > Gus

>From the absence of any likely marriage - or of the 2 daughters' births - on FreeBMD, coupled with the fact that he was 'retiring' from South Africa, the likely implication is that he married "abroad", and with a quite high probability that all occurred in South Africa. His rank as Major makes it not unlikely that the marriage and births may well be in the GRO's 'Miscellaneous Indices', probably the Army Marriages and Army Births. These *are* held on one of the Subscription Sites - but not by Ancestry... HTH Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "William MCDILL" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [WAR] STRIEDINGER FAMILY >I found a Major Oscar Striedinger, retiring from Durban, South Africa, 7 >Oct > 1914, to England. > With him was his wife Ethel 39 years old, daughter Dorothy 11 years old, > and > daughter Muriel > 9 years old. Oscar also listed as 39 years old. Found he died 7 Aug 1938 > in > Sussex England. > Hope this helps. > > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Cook > Sent: August 24, 2010 04:08 > To: Roots Warwick > Subject: [WAR] STRIEDINGER FAMILY > > > Hi, > I am new to this list and was hoping some kind person could help me. > I am looking for information about Oscar STRIEDINGER and his wife Ethel > Mary. On the 1881 census he was aged 5 and living at Hope's Harbour, > Bray's > Lane, Stoke, Warwick with his parents Otto and Alice Louisa > (m.s.DUMBLETON). > Does anyone know the maiden name of Oscar's wife, Ethel Mary? Also when > and > where they were married. > I do not know if Ethel Mary died or was divorced before 1924, as Oscar was > cited as co-respondent in a divorce between Edyth PERKINS and her husband > John W. Oscar subsequently married Edyth in 1925. > If anyone can help I would be very grateful. > Regards, > Christopher. > List archives are at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > List archives are at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Christopher, Otto & Louisa's marriage: Groom's Name: Otto Joseph Oscar Carl Striedinger Bride's Name: Alice Louisa Dumbleton Marriage Date: 14 Jul 1868 Marriage Place: Westend By Southampton,Hampshire,England Groom's Father's Name: Thomas Striedinger Bride's Father's Name: Henry Dumbleton Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M13766-1 System Origin: England-ODM Source Film Number: 1041752 Reference Number: Collection: England Marriages, 1538-1973 Oscar's baptism Name: Oscar Striedinger Gender: Male Baptism/Christening Date: 30 May 1875 Baptism/Christening Place: HOLY TRINITY,COVENTRY,WARWICK,ENGLAND Birth Date: 26 Apr 1875 Father's Name: Otto Striedinger Mother's Name: Alice Indexing Project (Batch) Number: J04192-4 System Origin: England-ODM Source Film Number: 1067412 Reference Number: Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Oscar also has three siblings; Otto, Frank & Alice Godiva All these are on the Family Search Record beta site. Peter I found a Major Oscar Striedinger, retiring from Durban, South Africa, 7 Oct 1914, to England. With him was his wife Ethel 39 years old, daughter Dorothy 11 years old, and daughter Muriel 9 years old. Oscar also listed as 39 years old. Found he died 7 Aug 1938 in Sussex England. Hope this helps. Bill Hi, I am new to this list and was hoping some kind person could help me. I am looking for information about Oscar STRIEDINGER and his wife Ethel Mary. On the 1881 census he was aged 5 and living at Hope's Harbour, Bray's Lane, Stoke, Warwick with his parents Otto and Alice Louisa (m.s.DUMBLETON). Does anyone know the maiden name of Oscar's wife, Ethel Mary? Also when and where they were married. I do not know if Ethel Mary died or was divorced before 1924, as Oscar was cited as co-respondent in a divorce between Edyth PERKINS and her husband John W. Oscar subsequently married Edyth in 1925. If anyone can help I would be very grateful. Regards, Christopher.

Hi Would anyone have access to the Stivichall parish records. William Dumbleton married Sarah Douce in 1831 and I'm trying to find out if William is listed as 'from this parish'. Also if there were any witnesses other than the church. p.s. this parish is not listed pn pickard's pink pages. Thank you Denise Genealogy - connecting family trees   http://genfam.com/FAMILY/index2.html   Join the Genfam Newsletter and get the lastest links, databases, events and more delivered to you every month. --- On Tue, 8/24/10, Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WAR] STRIEDINGER FAMILY > To: [email protected] > Date: Tuesday, August 24, 2010, 11:38 AM > Hi Gus & Christopher > > Many of the Overseas indexes including the Consular Indexes > are available > for free on > http://www.familyrelatives.com/ > > There are also Regimental Births & Marriages which may > come in handy > > You need to register but not give CC details > > I have used them to good effect on many occasions > > If the wife is from India it would be worth checking Fibis > also > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > > >From the absence of any likely marriage - or of > the 2 daughters' births - > > >on > > FreeBMD, coupled with the fact that he was 'retiring' > from South Africa, > > the > > likely implication is that he married "abroad", and > with a quite high > > probability that all occurred in South Africa. > > > > His rank as Major makes it not unlikely that the > marriage and births may > > well be in the GRO's 'Miscellaneous Indices', probably > the Army Marriages > > and Army Births. These *are* held on one of the > Subscription Sites - but > > not > > by Ancestry... > > > > HTH > > > > Gus > > List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Hi Christopher Ethel died in Allahabad, India on 27 Sept 1923 so it was before the divorce case. Letters of Administration were given to her husband Colonel Oscar Striedinger on October 14th 1924 in London. Effects were £106. 2s. 6d. She was born in Nova Scotia, her first child was born in Natal so the marriage c 1902 was probably abroad. Velda Velda. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cook" <[email protected]> To: "Roots Warwick" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:08 AM Subject: [WAR] STRIEDINGER FAMILY > Hi, > I am new to this list and was hoping some kind person could help me. > I am looking for information about Oscar STRIEDINGER and his wife Ethel > Mary. On the 1881 census he was aged 5 and living at Hope's Harbour, > Bray's Lane, Stoke, Warwick with his parents Otto and Alice Louisa > (m.s.DUMBLETON). > Does anyone know the maiden name of Oscar's wife, Ethel Mary? Also when > and where they were married. > I do not know if Ethel Mary died or was divorced before 1924, as Oscar was > cited as co-respondent in a divorce between Edyth PERKINS and her husband > John W. Oscar subsequently married Edyth in 1925. > If anyone can help I would be very grateful. > Regards, > Christopher. > List archives are at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Oscar Striedinger age 62 b. 1875, Army Retired, and his wife Edyth Striedinger age 51, returning from Buenos Aires, Argentina, on 25 Aug 1937, to England, address: 19 Warwick Road, Rexhill on Sea. Bill -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Cook Sent: August 24, 2010 04:08 To: Roots Warwick Subject: [WAR] STRIEDINGER FAMILY Hi, I am new to this list and was hoping some kind person could help me. I am looking for information about Oscar STRIEDINGER and his wife Ethel Mary. On the 1881 census he was aged 5 and living at Hope's Harbour, Bray's Lane, Stoke, Warwick with his parents Otto and Alice Louisa (m.s.DUMBLETON). Does anyone know the maiden name of Oscar's wife, Ethel Mary? Also when and where they were married. I do not know if Ethel Mary died or was divorced before 1924, as Oscar was cited as co-respondent in a divorce between Edyth PERKINS and her husband John W. Oscar subsequently married Edyth in 1925. If anyone can help I would be very grateful. Regards, Christopher. List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ethel Mary Striedinger of Allahabad India, wife of Colonel Striedinger died 27 Sep 1923 in India. Bill -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Cook Sent: August 24, 2010 04:08 To: Roots Warwick Subject: [WAR] STRIEDINGER FAMILY Hi, I am new to this list and was hoping some kind person could help me. I am looking for information about Oscar STRIEDINGER and his wife Ethel Mary. On the 1881 census he was aged 5 and living at Hope's Harbour, Bray's Lane, Stoke, Warwick with his parents Otto and Alice Louisa (m.s.DUMBLETON). Does anyone know the maiden name of Oscar's wife, Ethel Mary? Also when and where they were married. I do not know if Ethel Mary died or was divorced before 1924, as Oscar was cited as co-respondent in a divorce between Edyth PERKINS and her husband John W. Oscar subsequently married Edyth in 1925. If anyone can help I would be very grateful. Regards, Christopher. List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I found a Major Oscar Striedinger, retiring from Durban, South Africa, 7 Oct 1914, to England. With him was his wife Ethel 39 years old, daughter Dorothy 11 years old, and daughter Muriel 9 years old. Oscar also listed as 39 years old. Found he died 7 Aug 1938 in Sussex England. Hope this helps. Bill -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Cook Sent: August 24, 2010 04:08 To: Roots Warwick Subject: [WAR] STRIEDINGER FAMILY Hi, I am new to this list and was hoping some kind person could help me. I am looking for information about Oscar STRIEDINGER and his wife Ethel Mary. On the 1881 census he was aged 5 and living at Hope's Harbour, Bray's Lane, Stoke, Warwick with his parents Otto and Alice Louisa (m.s.DUMBLETON). Does anyone know the maiden name of Oscar's wife, Ethel Mary? Also when and where they were married. I do not know if Ethel Mary died or was divorced before 1924, as Oscar was cited as co-respondent in a divorce between Edyth PERKINS and her husband John W. Oscar subsequently married Edyth in 1925. If anyone can help I would be very grateful. Regards, Christopher. List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi I notice the Dumbleton surname for Alice. I have an Ann Dumbleton married to William Hammonds. She was born 1834 in Coventry. Her parents were Sarah and William Dumbleton. William died around 1840 and Sarah Dumbleton married William Hammonds father Thomas. In 1851 and before the Hammond name was spelled Homan in the records. William and Sarah Dumbleton also had a daughter Sarah. Have you traced your Dumbleton family. I'm wondering if Alice is related to William in some way. Genealogy - connecting family trees   http://genfam.com/FAMILY/index2.html   Join the Genfam Newsletter and get the lastest links, databases, events and more delivered to you every month. --- On Tue, 8/24/10, Cook <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Cook <[email protected]> > Subject: [WAR] STRIEDINGER FAMILY > To: "Roots Warwick" <[email protected]> > Date: Tuesday, August 24, 2010, 4:08 AM > Hi, > I am new to this list and was hoping some kind person could > help me. > I am looking for information about Oscar STRIEDINGER and > his wife Ethel Mary. On the 1881 census he was aged 5 and > living at Hope's Harbour, Bray's Lane, Stoke, Warwick with > his parents Otto and Alice Louisa (m.s.DUMBLETON). > Does anyone know the maiden name of Oscar's wife, Ethel > Mary? Also when and where they were married. > I do not know if Ethel Mary died or was divorced before > 1924, as Oscar was cited as co-respondent in a divorce > between Edyth PERKINS and her husband John W. Oscar > subsequently married Edyth in 1925. > If anyone can help I would be very grateful. > Regards, > Christopher. > List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Hi, I am new to this list and was hoping some kind person could help me. I am looking for information about Oscar STRIEDINGER and his wife Ethel Mary. On the 1881 census he was aged 5 and living at Hope's Harbour, Bray's Lane, Stoke, Warwick with his parents Otto and Alice Louisa (m.s.DUMBLETON). Does anyone know the maiden name of Oscar's wife, Ethel Mary? Also when and where they were married. I do not know if Ethel Mary died or was divorced before 1924, as Oscar was cited as co-respondent in a divorce between Edyth PERKINS and her husband John W. Oscar subsequently married Edyth in 1925. If anyone can help I would be very grateful. Regards, Christopher.

Hi Dick, I've made the change on the Washington Web site for you. Frank -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 3:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: WARWICK Digest, Vol 5, Issue 174 Today's Topics: 1. Re: OSBORN or OSBORNE (Pickard - Hunimex) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 10:32:28 +0200 From: "Pickard - Hunimex" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WAR] OSBORN or OSBORNE To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Toni, You might want to look also at my Pink Pages - there are extensive MI indexes. http://www.hunimex.com/warwick/mi/mi_indx.html There are three for Warwick listed - St Mary's, The cemetery in Birmingham road, and St Pauls. The latter two have Osborn(e) listed, so it might be worth accessing/buying the fiche from the BMSGH I am not at home at the moment, so cannot look these up, but I probably have the fiche in my possession You may also want to search around the Warwick area too, some of my Trepess family were buried in Leamington Spa Happy Hunting Pickard Trepess Currently in Pecs, Hungary -------------------------------------------------- From: "Toni Evans" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:59 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [WAR] OSBORN or OSBORNE > > > > > > Hello all, > > Does anyone have burials for St Mary Warwick, I am searching for William > Osborn (e) > and Maria his wife. > > It would be between 1824 and Sep 1837, I have found five of the children > in rhe 1841 census in Market Sq where the family lived 51/61/71. I have > checked the free BMD site. > ------------------------------ To contact the WARWICK list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the WARWICK mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of WARWICK Digest, Vol 5, Issue 174 ***************************************

Hi Toni The only one I can find is 06 May 1832 Mary OSBORN aged 39 years buried at St Marys Warwick Record is from the National Burial Index CD (1st edition) I have found that the name Maria is often recorded as Mary in the prs. and vice versa. There are several OSBORN(E) infants buried at St Marys Warwick between 1832 and 1836 No likely records that may be William - in any parish on the NBI that I can find. BMD registration began in the Sep 1837 quarter so anything before that date means we rely on parish registers for the information. cheers Wendy Boland Coordinator for Warwickshire FreeREG <<<<< Does anyone have burials for St Mary Warwick, I am searching for William Osborn (e) and Maria his wife. It would be between 1824 and Sep 1837, I have found five of the children in rhe 1841 census in Market Sq where the family lived 51/61/71. I have checked the free BMD site. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Hi Toni, You might want to look also at my Pink Pages - there are extensive MI indexes. http://www.hunimex.com/warwick/mi/mi_indx.html There are three for Warwick listed - St Mary's, The cemetery in Birmingham road, and St Pauls. The latter two have Osborn(e) listed, so it might be worth accessing/buying the fiche from the BMSGH I am not at home at the moment, so cannot look these up, but I probably have the fiche in my possession You may also want to search around the Warwick area too, some of my Trepess family were buried in Leamington Spa Happy Hunting Pickard Trepess Currently in Pecs, Hungary -------------------------------------------------- From: "Toni Evans" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:59 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [WAR] OSBORN or OSBORNE > > > > > > Hello all, > > Does anyone have burials for St Mary Warwick, I am searching for William > Osborn (e) > and Maria his wife. > > It would be between 1824 and Sep 1837, I have found five of the children > in rhe 1841 census in Market Sq where the family lived 51/61/71. I have > checked the free BMD site. >

Toni/Wendy, The NBI 3rd edition also has a second Mary buried at St Marys 31 Jan 1837 aged 75 years. I assume you are sure the deaths occurred before 1841 because the census shows one of the children as Head of the household. Peter Hi Toni The only one I can find is 06 May 1832 Mary OSBORN aged 39 years buried at St Marys Warwick Record is from the National Burial Index CD (1st edition) I have found that the name Maria is often recorded as Mary in the prs. and vice versa. There are several OSBORN(E) infants buried at St Marys Warwick between 1832 and 1836 No likely records that may be William - in any parish on the NBI that I can find. BMD registration began in the Sep 1837 quarter so anything before that date means we rely on parish registers for the information. cheers Wendy Boland Does anyone have burials for St Mary Warwick, I am searching for William Osborn (e) and Maria his wife. It would be between 1824 and Sep 1837, I have found five of the children in rhe 1841 census in Market Sq where the family lived 51/61/71. I have checked the free BMD site.

Hello all,   Does anyone have burials for St Mary Warwick, I am searching for William Osborn (e) and Maria his wife.   It would be between 1824 and Sep 1837, I have found five of the children in rhe 1841 census in Market Sq where the family lived 51/61/71. I have checked the free BMD site.

Hi All, I have a query that has stumped all that have been searching for the following for many years..... We have been searching for Michael Lalor & his son Walter. In 1841 we found Michael Lalor ,policeman Wappenbury,born Ireland 1820ish,then we found a Francis,inspector of police in Bedworth born 1810 Ireland,after searching for his record at Warwickshire Records office as we managed to find both their police details or part of their records & no one has come across this not even at the Records Office,i must admit they were very good & really helped us. If anyone can help further please do as i have tried nearly all police archives i can think of. I did manage to get into Northern Ireland police archives website but when they want £25 a search it's a bit hefty to pay,so i have enquired first & will then send them the £25 on Michael first. He is father to Walter's,Michael's 2nd son to two different mothers in less than 2 years apart. One said she was his wife Eliza Nee Simmons,however there is no marriage & she was living in the back to back houses St James's place Aston,when she gave birth to Walter Lalor in 1843,there is no nothing on Walter until he joins the Navy on board HMS Cornwallis 1859,then not on the 1861 census,however there is a Walter with Ann Lalor leaving of the USA in 1861,did he go visit his father before he married in 1863? Walter did not name is father as Michael,but John....Why....Is it because we found this...... On Michael & then also Francis???? Michael Lalor: date joined Police force:13/6/1840 as a P.C. Warrant no: 47 resigned 28/3/1842. By whom ordered: J.W.Burke Esq.,Carrakoel,Loughsea,Hyacinth Clarke Esq.,Carraroe Lodge & several other Clergy & gentry in Ireland. Francis Lalor: date joined Police force 19/3/1840 as a P.C. became Police inspector 4/1/1841 Warrant no; 35 Resigned 14/6/1841 By whom ordered: Inspector Rowan Esq.,R. Grimshaw Esq.,Justice if the Peace County Antrim & several other justices in Ireland. After seeing why they were forced to resign,it does seem likely Michael went to Essex to join the force,as there is a record of a Michael,however he can't be in 2 places at once ,or did he return to Warwickshire to collect his pay,as he finished in Warwickshire in April 1842,as he did signed for his last weeks wage,or someone else forged it ? Perhaps the news caught up with him in Essex as he resigned in August 1842,as for Francis,there is nothing more,i am waiting to hear back from Essex on him. We have searched everywhere for them....Does anyone know where i can now searc for this account? Thanks Kaz.

Hello Mike Thanks for that great suggestions. Will follow it up. Cheers Karen

FOR ELLEN SPENCE: Many thanks for help given in the past. I've probably bothered you with my SPENCER query before. But could you please help again?: My research: any SPENCER families living in Coventry between 1785 and 1795. My ancestor, Thomas SPENCER, was born in Coventry on November 10, 1792. Again, my thanks, Mary Jane Phillips (Professional mane, Mary Jane Phillips-Matz) ----- Original Message ----- From: "ELLEN SPENCE" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [WAR] What records are available in Warwickshire > Hi Peter > > > I have come across several instances of ancestors being married by licence > rather than banns, and none of my family were wealthy. The best you could > describe them as would be tradesmen, and even then, that is later on in > the nineteenth century. > Gus Tysoe found one for me at Worcester Records Office (my chap married > for the second time at Rowington, but normally lived at Budbrooke), and as > far as I can tell, this particular line of the family were only ag labs. > Certainly his descendants were living in some very primitive cottages in > Kenilworth at the beginning of the nineteenth century. > > You should check out the marriage records - you may be surprised. > > Also, saw you comment about missing baptisms in Great Alne. > Is it possible the family moved away for a while? For that period, I would > examine land tax records as well as other surviving documentation in the > parish chest, such as we discussed earlier. Did the family flirt with > non-conformism? Maybe a change of Anglican priest led the family to change > allegiance if they stayed in the parish. Or if they moved, have you cast > your net wider, looking at contiguous parishes for possible sightings? > The ancestors may not have moved about that much, but we shouldn't view > them as being totally static. I have other rural ancestors from the > Devon/Somerset boundary area, and they seem to move about three miles one > way or five miles another. One family live in one parish, but still have > family at the old one, and key events such as baptisms and burials take > place in the old parish, probably because it is technically nearer due to > the geography and location of the parish church. > > Hope that gives folks some ideas - thinking outside the box so to speak. > > Regards > > Ellen Spence > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Peter J Richardson <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, 6 June, 2010 11:17:22 > Subject: Re: [WAR] What records are available in Warwickshire > > Hello Ellen, > > Thanks for the suggestions. > > Picking up on the point about marriage licences and bonds, I know that > Lichfield Record Office have the originals for the part of Warwickshire > which was in Lichfield diocese. I would guess that the first port of call > for the rest of the county is probably Worcester but I don't know that any > of my known ancestors in that part of Warwickshire had the wealth to raise > the bond so it is not something that I have investigated for myself. > > Regards > Peter > > > > List archives are at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > List archives are at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Peter, Thanks for helping. That's a good choice, but all censuses, birth, marriages about her have Kate, Kate Emily, Kate E, so not sure of a Catherine. Plus, found a couple of others to keep me confused: 1915 Dec Name: Kate E Gell Born: abt 1859 Age at Death: 56 District: Axbridge County: Somerset Volume: 5c Page: 600 1944 Mar Name: Kate E Gell Age at death (estimated): 85 Registration district: Wirral Inferred County: Cheshire Volume: 8a Page: 648 I'm not aware of any family branches in Cheshire. Our Selly Oak families migrated from Bitton, GLS (between Bristol/Bath), so Somerset could make sense. I got this far, then thought to check the newly available Will Indexes for GELL. Didn't find Kate, but did find her second husband. Will Index, 1923 GELL Frederick William of 22 Poplar-road Kings Heath Birmingham retired cabinet maker died 12 August 1923 Probate Birmingham 22 August to Kate Emily Gell widow. Effects £127 17s 8d Re MOORE as the mother's maiden name: We've definitely found this 'transcription error' in early, hand-written documents. With so many MOOREs, we haven't explored the same in more recent/typed files. Thanks again, Marsha Stringer (nee MEERE) [email protected] USA www.bittonfamilies.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 1:32 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WAR] Lost 1882 Frank George MEERE; 1885 Edith Mary MEERE (m. George Thomas CLEMENTS, 1910) Marsha, Is this not Kate's death? Deaths Dec 1911 Gell Catherine 52 King's N. 6c 455 Also there are Clements births with mother recoded as Moore. Is that a possibility? Regards Peter Greetings, This is a branch of the family I haven't been able to find. Posting just in case anyone recognizes them. Frank George and Edith Mary were the children of 1858 Henry Frank MEERE and 1858 Kate Emily THOMPSON (first cousins; m 1882 Ladywood ). 1858-1887 Henry was a brother of my Orlando John MEERE. Henry Frank died 1887; Kate Emily m. 1845 Frederick William GELL in 1898; Frederick Wm died 1923; have not found Kate's death. 1891 Census *Widow Kate 33 Head of household at Hazelwell Halls, Kings Norton *Son 1882 Frank is a scholar, at the home of his grandmother, MaryAnn MEERE, 70 Pershore Road, Selly Oak (he is later named in her 1898 will) *Daughter 1885 Edith is a nurse child in the home of the WILKINSON family in Ladywood 1901 Census *Kate, 2nd husband Frederick GELL, and daughter Edith (as Ada): 20 Poplar Road Kings Norton *Son Frank G. MEERE is 18, a boarder in Aston, Occ Railway Engine Cleaner 1911 Census *Kate and Frederick GELL (cabinet maker, upholsterer) are still at 20 Poplar Road, (Kings Heath) *Edith and Thomas CLEMENTS (GPO Clerk, Engineering Dept) are married less than a year, at 156 Taylor Rd, King's Heath. No CLEMENTS births found with mother nee MEERE; no recognizable death and/or remarriage, etc. *Can't find Frank George MEERE anywhere. No marriage, death, emigration, noted war participation, directory entries, etc.

Marsha, Is this not Kate's death? Deaths Dec 1911 Gell Catherine 52 King's N. 6c 455 Also there are Clements births with mother recoded as Moore. Is that a possibility? Regards Peter Greetings, This is a branch of the family I haven't been able to find. Posting just in case anyone recognizes them. Frank George and Edith Mary were the children of 1858 Henry Frank MEERE and 1858 Kate Emily THOMPSON (first cousins; m 1882 Ladywood ). 1858-1887 Henry was a brother of my Orlando John MEERE. Henry Frank died 1887; Kate Emily m. 1845 Frederick William GELL in 1898; Frederick Wm died 1923; have not found Kate's death. 1891 Census *Widow Kate 33 Head of household at Hazelwell Halls, Kings Norton *Son 1882 Frank is a scholar, at the home of his grandmother, MaryAnn MEERE, 70 Pershore Road, Selly Oak (he is later named in her 1898 will) *Daughter 1885 Edith is a nurse child in the home of the WILKINSON family in Ladywood 1901 Census *Kate, 2nd husband Frederick GELL, and daughter Edith (as Ada): 20 Poplar Road Kings Norton *Son Frank G. MEERE is 18, a boarder in Aston, Occ Railway Engine Cleaner 1911 Census *Kate and Frederick GELL (cabinet maker, upholsterer) are still at 20 Poplar Road, (Kings Heath) *Edith and Thomas CLEMENTS (GPO Clerk, Engineering Dept) are married less than a year, at 156 Taylor Rd, King's Heath. No CLEMENTS births found with mother nee MEERE; no recognizable death and/or remarriage, etc. *Can't find Frank George MEERE anywhere. No marriage, death, emigration, noted war participation, directory entries, etc. Marsha Stringer (nee MEERE) [email protected] USA www.bittonfamilies.com