This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WZVBAIB/2324.2336.2337.2349.3.1.1 Message Board Post: First, I am wondering if this Diadama Sumner that you speak of was the mother of Hannah and Persis Sumner? I feel that there has to be a connection to my Mary Ann Warren (born 8FEB1809 in NY) somehow to this family since she was married in Cuyahoga County, Oh and went back to NY after her marriage. I think that I found somewhere that there was a Hiram Warren in NY who was deaf and dumb....do you know anything about him? Is he a descendant of Richard Warren? I do know that he had many children; twelve or thirteen. Are you certain about there being no Mary Ann Warren born in 1809 to Jabez or Nathan? Thanks for reading this. Any help very much appreciated.