Anthony Roger Warren could you contact James R. Warren at [email protected]? Could not find your address on the qc-gateway or rootsweb. Looking to get help finding a proven descendant of the Poynton Warrens in the UK to help us prove genetically what we have not been able to prove by documentation. And that would be Humphrey Warren SR. born in Poynton, England, July 7, 1632 (we believe) of Maryland is indeed the son of Edward "Stag" Warren of Poynton England. He was born May 10, 1605 and baptized May 19 that year according to the register of Wood Plumpton. He married Margaret, daughter of Henry Arderne of Harden near Stockport. A DNA match would do this. We have four matches here (US) that have varying lineages to what should be Humphrey's American brothers. To put this question to rest a DNA match with a Warren line documented to the Poynton Warrens from the UK in my opinion would prove this relation. Thanks for any help Ronnie -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 4:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WARREN] Warren family of Devon,England - Albert Warren born Buckfastleigh This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AnthonyRogerWarren Surnames: Warren Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.warren/3849.5.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: A few comments might be helpful to those in USA/Canada. I lived near Buckfastleigh & Headborough for some years, before developing an interest in Family History. Subsequently (and having moved to the other side of the UK ! ) I have discovered that there is a memorial to a Warren parson in the nearby village of Ermington, Warrens also served as parsons in the villages nearer Plymouth, Plympton and Plymstock. Perhaps of greater geogrphic interest, the boundary between Devon and Cornwall has been changed over the years and while the River Tamar is effectively the legal boundary today, a swathe of land (now S.E. Cornwall) to the West of Plymouth Sound used to be Devon. Of interest, the graveyard of Rame Church (up on the headland forming the Western edge of Plymouth Sound) has multiple Warren graves. The name Warren is not common in the area today. I am NOT related to the Warrens of Headborough (so far as I can trace) but the Warrens of old were certainly more mobile than might have been expected. While the Warrens of Headborough are asserted to have descended from the Poynton Warrens, other French nobles adopted the name Warren later than the death of the last "Antient Earl" - for example, Sir Richard Fitzroy Warren of Fifehide, son of a "natural" daughter of William 6th Earl,and sired by King John ! I suspect that the liberal adoption of the Warren surname may account for the variation in Male DNA results (of which mine are freely available). A. Roger Warren (b.Bristol,UK, 13/6/1932) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message