Cross-posting from my message on the Huron Co., Ohio board in case anyone is looking for any of these people. -Chad ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Chad Warren <chad.m.warren@gmail.com> Date: Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 1:00 AM Subject: Re: OHHURON German School again To: kvwinery@aol.com, ohhuron@rootsweb.com There were multiple John Warren's in the Bellevue Area. The John Warren and Family that shows up in the 1850 Census with wife, Eleanor and children, Thomas, John, Mary and James, is not the same John Warren that is in my line and who also lived in Bellevue. My g-g-g-grand-father, John Warren emigrated somewhere between 1853-1854, with his second wife Amelia (his first wife Elizabeth died in England in 1852) and at least two of his sons, Thomas and Frederick. John and Amelia are buried together in the Bellevue Cemetery, and I have copies of their obits from the Bellevue newspapers. Amelia died in Kalamazoo, MI but her remains were taken back to Bellevue to be put to rest next to her only child. John Warren died in Charlotte, MI and his remains were also taken back to Bellevue to be buried next to his wife Amelia, and some of his children. His entire family with first wife Elizabeth can be found in the 1851 British Census. John and Amelia can be found living alone in the 1860 & 1870 U.S. Census records. One of John's daughters from his first marriage, Ann Turner Warren, was married in England to Thomas Thorne, then after he passed away, she was married to Edward Spratt. They emigrated in 1870 and she was once again widowed in 1880. At this time, her parents, John and Amelia took up residence with her. Thus, they appear in the 1880 U.S. Census all living together. Ann would shortly afterwards move up to Charlotte, MI where her brother was living and marry yet again to a Lyman C. Holbrook. John's two sons Thomas and Frederick after serving in the Civil War, moved up to Flint, MI, where Thomas stayed. Frederick moved on to Charlotte, MI. The two sons joined the Civil War in 1861, but do not appear living with their parents in the 1860 census. I found Frederick listed with another family, likely as an apprentice painter, but am not sure where Thomas was living at the time.) There was one other sister that also ended up in Michigan. Her married name was Mary Jane Bale, and she lived and died in Lakeview, MI with her husband Henry Bale. She was the oldest sibling, so my guess is that she was married in England as well, and emigrated independently from her father similar to Ann. There are also 2 older brothers from the 1851 British Census, John and William. There is a worn tombstone near John and Amelia's in the Bellevue Cemetery for William who died at age 18. But I cannot account for the oldest brother John. Perhaps he died of illness, or never emigrated to the United States. They were never mentioned in any of the obits. Hope this info is useful, but it sounds like you are likely looking for the other John Warren & family. -Chad Warren On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:21 PM, <kvwinery@aol.com> wrote: > Chad , > > Where the sons of John Warren, Thomas,John and James that moved to > Michigan.My g-grandmother was Mary Warren and I believe John Warren was her > father. > > Leo Mills >