This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Warren Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WZVBAIB/3368.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Doug: First the Warren's of Pulaski Co., Ky are a group all to there selves, I have traced them from when they first come into Lincoln Co., Ky. in ca1785 with land records etc. To understand this group of Warrens you have to go back to Amherst Co., Va. where they come from. Several books relate to them such as the Dairy of Rev. Robert Rose, who died in 1751 he baptized our Charles Warren in 6-3-1750 Rev. Rose also married Eleanor Mildred Warren 10-26-1747 to John Rucker, Jr. the History of this group is unbelivable. According to Rev. Rose Dairy Eleanor's brother John Warren & James Warren, Jr. owned a copper mine patent for 1,000 years. There father was James Warren, Sr. his will is in the Library of Virginia dated 7-3-1769 Amherst Co., Va. ========================================== Notes for John Warren, Sr. alias Jno "Copper" Warren born ca1716 Albemarke/Amherst Co., Va. Will of his father James Sr. To my son, John Warren all of my estate, real and personal To my daughter, Elizabeth Whittle 175 acres of land between Col. Braxton's and Christian's Orphans Goochland Orders 1735-1737 November 18, 1735 Court In the action of debt between John Woodson, Jr. ass'ee of original Brown, plt. & Matthew Whittel, James Worrin & John Worrin, deft's dismissed the parties agreeing. In July 1741 James Warren's son John lived in a separate household on Moores Creek For two pounds sterling John Warren, James son, was awarded a patent on 376 acres of land on the north side of Buffalo Ridge in Albemarle Co. adjacent to James Warren lands. The date was Sept. 20, 1748. The patent on James adjacent land of 400 acres lying on both sides of Stoney "Rocky" Run, a branch of Buffalo River was not official until Sept. 5, 1749. James also paid two pounds sterling. These two tracts were in present day Amherst Co. 40 miles or more from James & John's former homes near Rivanna River. The new lands lay approximately 4 miles East of the present town of Amherst, along the Northward flowing Rocky Creek, a streem between the town and Buffalo Ridge.Rocky Creek flows into the Buffalo river some 3 miles Southwest of the entrance of Buffalo River into Nelson County. 20 Oct 1786, Jno Warren, Sr. deeded to Benjamin Warren both of Amherst Co. 25 acres adjoining John Harvey, new road, Wm Dillard, and Peter Joyner Lines. Spring branch, Wit: Jno Whittle Jno Hutcherson, Peter Joiner Source Ref. Deeds of Amherst Co., Va. 1761-1807 & Albemarle Co Va 1748-1763 entered 25 March 1749 Source: Dr. Holland Warren has written 2 books and give us a 11 page Summary on the Amherst Co., Va. Warren and using his information and the book of Sudie Rucker book this is how the lineage should be. Jno "Copper" Warren & his brother James owned a copper mine and patent was for 1000 years, per records I have, according to Dr, Holland this John Warren married Susanna Christian dau of Charles Christian + Elizabeth Hunt of Westover Parish, Charles City Co., Va. The Library of Virginia shows Land Grant 9-20-1748 Albemarle Co., Va. 276 ac on the meadows on the North side of Buffalo Ridge Patent #23 1746-49 p 418 Card #22 Land Office Patents & Grants/Northern Neck Grants & Surveys : CATALOG CARD GRANTEE Warren, John. grantee. DATE 20 September 1748. NOTE Location: Albemarle County. NOTE Description: 276 acres on the meadows on the north side of Buffalo Ridge. NOTE Source: Land Office Patents No. 28, 1746-1749 (v.1 & 2 p.1-730), p. 418 (Reel 26). NOTE See also the following surname(s): Warrin. Land Grant 9-10-1755 Albemarle Co., Va. 400 ac on the Branches of Rocky Creek of Buffalo Creek Patent #31 1751-56 p673 Card #23 Land Office Patents & Grants/Northern Neck Grants & Surveys : CATALOG CARD GRANTEE Warren, John. grantee. DATE 10 September 1755. NOTE Location: Albemarle County. NOTE Description: 400 acres on the branches of Rocky Creek of Buffalo River. NOTE Source: Land Office Patents No. 31, 1751-1756 (v.1 & 2 p.1-751), p. 673 (Reel 29). NOTE See also the following surname(s): Warrin. 9-20-1748 376 acres of land in Albemarle Co., Va. ========================================== So Doug this is only the beginning this line will take you back to Poynton, Cheshire, England then back to Normandy, France where the first Warren was named William de Warenne of Normandy, France who married Miss de Tora the dauaghter of Ralph de Tora, there son was William de Warenne b 1027-1028 Normandy, France he married Gundred daughter of William the Conqueror from this point down to when they come into the USA I have 2 pedigree charts for proof one is dated using the Monarch reign for their dating system such as 44Edw3=1371. My research in the USA has been through the wonderful work of Dr. Holland Warren who wrote the 11 page Summary on our line. I have done extensive research in Pulaski Co. mostly on the OLD ones. Our line comes from Liberty Warren b 1815 & married 10-26-1837 Nancy Hasty s/o Peter Warren b1784 Amherst Co., Va. I would love to help you in anyway I can like I said most of my records are involving the Old Warren's I know which ones stayed there and the ones that left, if that is any help to you. Lots of History believe me going all the way back. My email address is: norma_kirchhofer@hotmail.com I am considered a Warren Historian Thanks, Norma