Barrie's post reminds me of an old old saying... It's O.K. not to know the answer, but you better be able learn how to get to where the answer lies or you'll never have true knowledge... I think this is especially true for us gen buffs. Thank you for the kind words and the push to keep up on documentation and resource citation... You know, I get tired of citing sources over and again, but I do it to try to keep the work 'clean' , and I definately don't want to leave a mess that someone else won't want to touch when I'm gone...that would be a true waste. Like I said, earlier, I am willing to give a copy of one of my surname doc lists to anyone who thinks it may help. a few listers have taken advantage of it, and i hope they find it helpful by the way... my niece , Nini, who is 16 helped me to figure out the concept, do the format and type them out for all of our surnames for our last family reunion, so I am trying to pass on the skills!!! gloria ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com