Gloria..You said it well!..We need our documentation..Please tell me about the Surname Doc Indexes (remembering..there's still lots I have to learn about the computer..so give me the "elementary" course..)THANKS.. I am researching John B. Warren, b. NC 1796 - md Rachel Hunt (dau of Berry Hunt)..Rachel born NC..I have handwritten names of all of John's Children (application of War of 1812)..but..have found him listed with children that can not be correct! THANKS again..Mignonette Warren Kelsoe/AL The thing that I have found helps me keep track more than any other single thing is that i use wordpad to make SURNAME DOC INDEXES I can send you a copy of one of mine to show you the concept if you are interested. they help so much when you are sharing things.( and anyone onlist who is interested may get one also! let me know!!!) I am so grateful to rootsweb and other researchers and would love to be able to work with everyone on my Warren line. In a message dated 1/29/2003 12:47:38 PM Central Standard Time, gloriamlh@juno.com writes: > Thank you so much for your kind reply, Andrea. Yes, I do so agree that > it is a standard need of ours to remember that there is no garantee on > even "Proven " items, but when we have so many fine researchers that have > what looks to me like a part of the puzzle it seems that this is the kind > of thing that needs to be hashed out and either confirmed or negated to > the best of the groups ability as a whole, not just it's seperate > parts... I feel that the individuals have forgotten the whole, so to > speak, in that our hobby has been enabled by the internet and our ability > to 'find' each other, and we need to bring the contacts together in a way > that all of us benefit. Just as i may find joe doe Warren that doesn't > connect to me and I would place the info on the list with the source that > i found, I would also hope that someone else would do the same for me. > It is way too complicated for someone to say to me yes i know your jane > doe warren, she was in Va in 1802 and then to not give me a source to go > find??? the state of Virginia is one of our oldest and the documents > alone that that state has is beyond most people's comprehension, and the > written material that comes from that source material is growing at a > pace that I personally can't keep up with, so I really need more clues ! > I think more than anything I am frustrated with the wealth of tidbits > that all of my Warren "Angels" threw at me with absolutely nothing to > back them up... I Think I may have a way that we can have a little > more ability to track down the sources, if we just remember to make notes > to ourselves about where we get things. Right now for example, I have > what I am calling The War of the Warrens... a researcher told me that > William Warren born in Lunenburg VA in 1754 is NOT the father of Drury > Warren the father of John J. Warren, b. 1808 but that William's< brother> > Drury Warren b. 1756 married sarah jamison in 1807 and is the father. > she did not cite a source for that information. Nor did she tell me who > had given her the info ( just stuff her father has found out). As far as > i can see this IS possible, but there are questions. If this is so, how > have so many researchers said that Williams SON Drury Warren is the > husband of Sarah Jamison, and father of John J. Warren, and WHAT source > do they have for THIS information? Does anyone have Sarahs birth date/ > birth place?> other children for William Warren's BROTHER Drury and > Sarah? Is there any source documentation/ or citations online which can > help us prove which Drury Warren was the father of John J. ? > Other researchers swear that Drury Warren SR, son of William Warren was > the father of John. To me this seems more reasonable, because of likely > age at marriage etc, but i have no one who can tell me where or when > drury warren SR was born, no one has any source documentation? Where > have all the tidbits come from? that is my basic premis. Someone, at > sometime, must have seen documentation, but only one person I have spoken > to has said go to such and such courthouse ( or anyplace else except > secondary evidence in the way of another researchers book) and get a copy > of blank blank to see how it was figured out.... and the information i > was told i could send for is not even of the person i am searching for!!! > This is scary, to say the least. Somehow, at sometime, someone has put > out a lot of small tidbits and no one seems to know where it came from, > nor how to prove or disprove any of the info. I am trying to get the > researchers of the line to pool info and decide if what they have is > spurious, or likely and decide what is the best thing to begin a doc > search on, and if no one else is working on my John J. Warren, that is > fine, I am. I think that it needs to be decided to the best of the lines > ability who was the mother of Thomas III Warren, since it looks like the > info is that the second wife was not his mother. One researcher sent me a > whole genfile of the descendents of Susan Greenleaf(e) Warren and another > turned right around and said it is proven that she is totally Spurious, > and gave another authors work as the Proof.... I want to be able to say > Hey but so and so says... but what I have gotten so far is hurt feelings > and people offended and no longer willing to share, and that is so sad. > Two years ago someone sent me a peice of info saying that one of my > ancestors had come over on a certain boat at a certain time, and i worked > for over 6 months on the line and then found a doc that proved that this > person could not be mine, even in the face of prior documentation and > certs...and the doc i found was Primary evidence, from the person > involved to his children, all named,and I found some still living, my gg > aunt and uncle, and as soon as I got that I found so much on him, but > the person who had sent me the info about the ship refused the evidence I > wanted to send him, for free, because he had spent 10 years on the > line...no matter that it was wrong!!! the funny thing is that just the > other day i was looking for new researchers on the 'net, and the same > person had a new website with the corrected info, but the Sources were > not even cited, nor was my email available as a researcher, so I do not > know if the person went after the docs and certs himself or if he just > copied what i sent and didnt care if he had source docs or not.... anyway > this has gotten long, so i just want to add that for a signature line > when sharing i like to put in my sources in a short format... i.e: > Secondary Sources you can search for: > LDS IGI- lange, gloria (and any file numbers that apply), or > Internet researcher Gloriamlh@juno.com 2003 or > PIC thanks to Gloria Lange- gloriamlh@juno.com 2003 or > Internet website Http://www etc > Primary sources that I can scan and send: > B/C gloria Lange > D/C gloria Lange > I have other sources if interested email me. (I just cut and copy this > type of thing from a .txt file or I attach file if I have a good number > of sources, after seeing if the party can accept attachments.) > The thing that I have found helps me keep track more than any other > single thing is that i use wordpad to make SURNAME DOC INDEXES I can send > you a copy of one of mine to show you the concept if you are interested. > they help so much when you are sharing things.( and anyone onlist who is > interested may get one also! let me know!!!) I am so grateful to rootsweb > and other researchers and would love to be able to work with everyone on > my Warren line. > > On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 08:25:37 -0600 "Andrea Nelson" > <Andrea.Nelson@mchsi.com> writes: > > Dear Gloria, > > Good morning and mega dittos to you from central Illinois! > > I certainly most whole-heartedly agree with you! Also, to clarify, > > I do > > hope that you will make note on the two emails that I sent you > > earlier that > > I in NO way consider or propose to make claim that my > > correspondances that > > I offered to you as 'proof' or 'verification'. I only consider them > > 'leads' > > and 'clues' until I myself am able to obtain actual documents of > > some degree > > of verifyableness. I went back and reread my two emails to you and > > see > > where I failed to make/included that statement. I do apologize and > > am so > > sorry if I have mislead you. I was trying to write you inbetween > > going to > > work, and taking care of my elderly mother and grandfather.... so I > > think in > > my own un-subconscious way that when I told of Norma being the one > > who has > > help me in the past that that was my only way/idea of knowing how to > > address > > that issue. That's why I included her address for you in an attempt > > to give > > you access to someone who seems to be better/ more reputable at > > this. > > Learning how to document is in itself a full-time job that I myself > > am > > learning how to do on my own with no opportunity of being able to > > learn how > > to do it correctly aside from articles that I can find on the > > internet. And > > I still don't think I do it right. > > > > Maybe one way I could address this issue is to write some sort of a > > statement and include it in my signature line? what do you think? > > I'd hate > > to think that I would continue to mislead people, but I desparetly > > want to > > be able to write to people even as I am learning how to do so > > properly and > > correctly. Writing is a very difficult art to learn for me I see. > > > > Please respond. I look forward to receiving your input and > > correspondances. > > Sincerely, Andrea Nelson in Fisher IL 61843 > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > > > > >

Dear Kay: I am sorry that you felt my email was insulting. i was just trying to get the point across that if someone says to me hey, all i have in the way of a source is a tombstone rubbing from my ggrandfather Warren's tomb at yahoo cemetery in kinsbruk iowa, then I have a way to go search that info and try to get a doc or cert. this would help you and help me, because you have more than i started with and i may find a new resource... i have also spent a whole lot of money on certs and docs, some who were not mine, and i always offer them to the lists concerned...i give info freely and share docs and certs whenever i have them. i always list source citations and give document indexes to those who ask. informational tidbits with no clues as to source are frustrating, at best, and impossible to work with at worst. Please see my new Warren post in answer to another researcher before you judge me. I saw a problem with the researchers of my Warren line and I tried to address it in the best way I could, and because I am new to this line does not mean I am new to the art of research and documentation. I have many many lines that , because we work together and hash out the errors , between us all, they are proven to the absolute best they can be with what has been found. Also, When there is a question of accuracy in dates or whatever, i will say so, i.e. UPDATE JAN 2003: John doe Warren may have been born in 1600 not 1603 according to Jim doe Warren (Jimwar@bbb.bbb) who has found the following information: Gravestone at such and such cem in giles co TN , PICTURE/Rubbing...reason(s) for new info: wife jane doe warren buried next to john, which agrees with known docs(mrg, census). no b/d/c available a.t.t.(at this time) This is a complex and frustrating issue, and I am sharing these things with the list to try to get some cohesion in the research group. Sincerely Gloria On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:07:27 EST Wkaywarren@aol.com writes: > Gloria, > > I think you made a mistake with you insulting email. The people who > sent you > what they had were trying to help you. I take all the info I can > get with or > without source documents. Who's to say what is correct. Even the > documents > have been incorrect and a family member was correct. I will decline > to help > you if I have information that might help because I take in all the > info I > can get. It is not easy to get documents because they aren't always > > available and I don't always know where to look. Example being, > there is no > death certificate for my great grandfather Warren. I have spent > money on > trying to get one, but there is none to be found. I only know what > is on his > tombstone and what the family says killed hime. > > I guess you should just go it alone and do all the research yourself > and then > you can trust what you find. > > Kay Warren ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com

Thank you so much for your kind reply, Andrea. Yes, I do so agree that it is a standard need of ours to remember that there is no garantee on even "Proven " items, but when we have so many fine researchers that have what looks to me like a part of the puzzle it seems that this is the kind of thing that needs to be hashed out and either confirmed or negated to the best of the groups ability as a whole, not just it's seperate parts... I feel that the individuals have forgotten the whole, so to speak, in that our hobby has been enabled by the internet and our ability to 'find' each other, and we need to bring the contacts together in a way that all of us benefit. Just as i may find joe doe Warren that doesn't connect to me and I would place the info on the list with the source that i found, I would also hope that someone else would do the same for me. It is way too complicated for someone to say to me yes i know your jane doe warren, she was in Va in 1802 and then to not give me a source to go find??? the state of Virginia is one of our oldest and the documents alone that that state has is beyond most people's comprehension, and the written material that comes from that source material is growing at a pace that I personally can't keep up with, so I really need more clues ! I think more than anything I am frustrated with the wealth of tidbits that all of my Warren "Angels" threw at me with absolutely nothing to back them up... I Think I may have a way that we can have a little more ability to track down the sources, if we just remember to make notes to ourselves about where we get things. Right now for example, I have what I am calling The War of the Warrens... a researcher told me that William Warren born in Lunenburg VA in 1754 is NOT the father of Drury Warren the father of John J. Warren, b. 1808 but that William's< brother> Drury Warren b. 1756 married sarah jamison in 1807 and is the father. she did not cite a source for that information. Nor did she tell me who had given her the info ( just stuff her father has found out). As far as i can see this IS possible, but there are questions. If this is so, how have so many researchers said that Williams SON Drury Warren is the husband of Sarah Jamison, and father of John J. Warren, and WHAT source do they have for THIS information? Does anyone have Sarahs birth date/ birth place?> other children for William Warren's BROTHER Drury and Sarah? Is there any source documentation/ or citations online which can help us prove which Drury Warren was the father of John J. ? Other researchers swear that Drury Warren SR, son of William Warren was the father of John. To me this seems more reasonable, because of likely age at marriage etc, but i have no one who can tell me where or when drury warren SR was born, no one has any source documentation? Where have all the tidbits come from? that is my basic premis. Someone, at sometime, must have seen documentation, but only one person I have spoken to has said go to such and such courthouse ( or anyplace else except secondary evidence in the way of another researchers book) and get a copy of blank blank to see how it was figured out.... and the information i was told i could send for is not even of the person i am searching for!!! This is scary, to say the least. Somehow, at sometime, someone has put out a lot of small tidbits and no one seems to know where it came from, nor how to prove or disprove any of the info. I am trying to get the researchers of the line to pool info and decide if what they have is spurious, or likely and decide what is the best thing to begin a doc search on, and if no one else is working on my John J. Warren, that is fine, I am. I think that it needs to be decided to the best of the lines ability who was the mother of Thomas III Warren, since it looks like the info is that the second wife was not his mother. One researcher sent me a whole genfile of the descendents of Susan Greenleaf(e) Warren and another turned right around and said it is proven that she is totally Spurious, and gave another authors work as the Proof.... I want to be able to say Hey but so and so says... but what I have gotten so far is hurt feelings and people offended and no longer willing to share, and that is so sad. Two years ago someone sent me a peice of info saying that one of my ancestors had come over on a certain boat at a certain time, and i worked for over 6 months on the line and then found a doc that proved that this person could not be mine, even in the face of prior documentation and certs...and the doc i found was Primary evidence, from the person involved to his children, all named,and I found some still living, my gg aunt and uncle, and as soon as I got that I found so much on him, but the person who had sent me the info about the ship refused the evidence I wanted to send him, for free, because he had spent 10 years on the line...no matter that it was wrong!!! the funny thing is that just the other day i was looking for new researchers on the 'net, and the same person had a new website with the corrected info, but the Sources were not even cited, nor was my email available as a researcher, so I do not know if the person went after the docs and certs himself or if he just copied what i sent and didnt care if he had source docs or not.... anyway this has gotten long, so i just want to add that for a signature line when sharing i like to put in my sources in a short format... i.e: Secondary Sources you can search for: LDS IGI- lange, gloria (and any file numbers that apply), or Internet researcher Gloriamlh@juno.com 2003 or PIC thanks to Gloria Lange- gloriamlh@juno.com 2003 or Internet website Http://www etc Primary sources that I can scan and send: B/C gloria Lange D/C gloria Lange I have other sources if interested email me. (I just cut and copy this type of thing from a .txt file or I attach file if I have a good number of sources, after seeing if the party can accept attachments.) The thing that I have found helps me keep track more than any other single thing is that i use wordpad to make SURNAME DOC INDEXES I can send you a copy of one of mine to show you the concept if you are interested. they help so much when you are sharing things.( and anyone onlist who is interested may get one also! let me know!!!) I am so grateful to rootsweb and other researchers and would love to be able to work with everyone on my Warren line. On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 08:25:37 -0600 "Andrea Nelson" <Andrea.Nelson@mchsi.com> writes: > Dear Gloria, > Good morning and mega dittos to you from central Illinois! > I certainly most whole-heartedly agree with you! Also, to clarify, > I do > hope that you will make note on the two emails that I sent you > earlier that > I in NO way consider or propose to make claim that my > correspondances that > I offered to you as 'proof' or 'verification'. I only consider them > 'leads' > and 'clues' until I myself am able to obtain actual documents of > some degree > of verifyableness. I went back and reread my two emails to you and > see > where I failed to make/included that statement. I do apologize and > am so > sorry if I have mislead you. I was trying to write you inbetween > going to > work, and taking care of my elderly mother and grandfather.... so I > think in > my own un-subconscious way that when I told of Norma being the one > who has > help me in the past that that was my only way/idea of knowing how to > address > that issue. That's why I included her address for you in an attempt > to give > you access to someone who seems to be better/ more reputable at > this. > Learning how to document is in itself a full-time job that I myself > am > learning how to do on my own with no opportunity of being able to > learn how > to do it correctly aside from articles that I can find on the > internet. And > I still don't think I do it right. > > Maybe one way I could address this issue is to write some sort of a > statement and include it in my signature line? what do you think? > I'd hate > to think that I would continue to mislead people, but I desparetly > want to > be able to write to people even as I am learning how to do so > properly and > correctly. Writing is a very difficult art to learn for me I see. > > Please respond. I look forward to receiving your input and > correspondances. > Sincerely, Andrea Nelson in Fisher IL 61843 > > > ___ > > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > > Only $9.95 per month! > > Visit www.juno.com > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com

I need to speak frankly to the Warren List. I do not wish to offend or in any way make someone on this list feel that their research is worthless, but after the friendliness and willingness to help that I have seen from the Listers, I feel the need to comment. So many listers wrote me with info to share, but no one wanted to share with the whole list, and wrote to me off list...I think I found out why...they all had different info, and little or no proof... There is quite a bit of difference in the various responses I have gotten on the ancestry of John J. Warren who married Sarah Cobb. If it was a matter of a date by a year or similar things then I would be the last person to send commentary to the entire Warren List, but the differences I have received are consistant in only one area, except from one person, in that they have no proof or sources to go to for proof. One person who sent what she considers proof was quoting from another persons published work . I feel it behooves me to remind the list that just because it is found on the Internet does not make it true. Just because it is found in a book does not make it so, even if sources are quoted, UNLESS you get the source doc or cert yourself. there is only one person of all the kind souls who responded to me who offered locations of source documents that can be searched for. I am going to search for those documents, and when and if I find them I will share them with the list. I hope that those of you who are saying to yourselves that this line is already done realize that untill the certs and docs are commonly held and shared, this line is Not Done. Mainly because so many have so many opinions and so much data that differs that there is no way to tell what is correct as long as there are no certs and docs. I am new to this line and this list and I am worried about being removed and offending, but I just want the line to be PROVEN and as long as that has not happened or it is not SHARED then it is worthless to me and to anyone who wants documented lineage. The absolute only thing I had in the way of cert/doc was the census I shared yesterday, and I hope it helps someone to get the actual page. If I find anything else i will share.Please consider trying to get docs and certs and sharing them with the listers who relate so we can get this line finished properly. As an example of what I am talking about, one of the things I did last year. I spent 12.00 to join a gen society in Wisconsin so that I could have the priveledge of paying another 5.00 for for another member on the spot to copy a letter in an old newspaper the society had a copy of ... Then I turned around and gave scanned copies of it to ALL known researchers of the line. Yes. It cost me the money and the time, but they all give me credit for finding it, and they each one shared something in return in the way of docs or certs that I needed , and I willingly give credit to them for finding the info.... I have found this to be the way on most of my research and surname lists...What is different with the WARREN list? I did not expect for anyone on the list to give me all twenty years of a surname research project, but i did hope for someone to say:" hey your Warren was born in this town in this year to these parents and the announcement is here or the cert is there or the proof is in this will "...something that I could go and send for, or get through a volunteer copyist or some other way... Norma is the only one who sent me some places and some sources that i can actually go get.... i hope all of the rest of the line can get together and get some docs and certs and hash out what is true, what is false, and what is spurious or exagerated so that we share the true data of the line. I am sorry if I have stepped on toes, because i really do not want to do that in any way...please understand. Good luck to the Warren researchers of this line, and I hope to be able to share something proof positive with you all in the near future. gloria ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com

I believe Emma and the first child were born in Massachusetts (MA). Lew ----- Original Message ----- From: <TheClown15@cs.com> To: <WARREN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 3:12 PM Subject: [WARREN] Re: Warren's of MA | This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. | | Surnames: Warren | Classification: Query | | Message Board URL: | | http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WZVBAIB/1206.1208.1213.1 | | Message Board Post: | | Go to Familysearch.org and look up the 1880 census as below. | Household Record 1880 United States Census | | Search results | Download Previous Household Next Household | Household: | | Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace | Charles WARREN Self M Male W 31 MA Coachman MA MA | Emma WARREN Wife M Female W 24 MA Keeping House ME ME | Martha WARREN Dau S Female W 4 MA MA MA | Charlie WARREN Son S Male W 2 MA MA MA | Lillie CLARK SisterL S Female W 15 MA At Home ME ME | | Source Information: | Census Place Salem, Essex, Massachusetts | Family History Library Film 1254532 | NA Film Number T9-0532 | Page Number 634D | | Note: Emma and the first child were born in Maine.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Warren Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WZVBAIB/2034.1 Message Board Post: Hi John, Joseph was the son of Thomas Wareen a coachbuilder from Ashby in Leicestershire. What do you need to know?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Warren Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WZVBAIB/1206.1208.1213.1 Message Board Post: Go to Familysearch.org and look up the 1880 census as below. Household Record 1880 United States Census Search results | Download Previous Household Next Household Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace Charles WARREN Self M Male W 31 MA Coachman MA MA Emma WARREN Wife M Female W 24 MA Keeping House ME ME Martha WARREN Dau S Female W 4 MA MA MA Charlie WARREN Son S Male W 2 MA MA MA Lillie CLARK SisterL S Female W 15 MA At Home ME ME Source Information: Census Place Salem, Essex, Massachusetts Family History Library Film 1254532 NA Film Number T9-0532 Page Number 634D Note: Emma and the first child were born in Maine.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Rith, Kell or Goodwin Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WZVBAIB/3285 Message Board Post: Hello everyone hope everyone is having a great day i really enjoy reading the info on this site ..and so i figure if there is anyone i may be related too. My name is Sinoeun (c-nun) born in Cambodia and grew up in Maine.. So if you a Rith or Kell or even a Goodwin..reply to me and lets find out ..hey we might be related :-)Take care and have great day.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Warren in Mass Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WZVBAIB/1206.1529.1 Message Board Post: Hello Deborah i'd trying to write to anyone that maybe be able to help me.. I havent gotten to much i just started and i would love any help i can get my mother inlaw is writing me down all she knows so far we know his name is Charles Jackson Warren , married to a Florence Heath his parents were C J Warren and Emma J Clark. here is let me type it this way: Name: Charles Jackson Warren DOB: June 9,1878 Place of birth:Salem Mass Married : To Florence E Heath on March 4, 1919 in Midway MA..this was his second marriage Date of Death: Oct 12 1950 in Millis MA Grandfather of:Helen E Goodwin married to a James A Goodwin she was born in Natick Ma grew up in Millis now living in Maine --------------------------------------- Father: C.J.Warren Birth place: Marblhead Ma --------------------------------------- Mother: Emma J Clark Birth place:Glouster Ma -------------------------------------- Possible sister: Martha Eliza DOB: 1875 We love to know name of his First wife and where they got married, when and was there and Children..we were told his Mother moved to Walpole and remarried...thanks again for any help.Take care

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Warren/Goodwin Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WZVBAIB/3284 Message Board Post: I had reply to nice man who i hope might be able to help me but i figured i'd sent to everyone incase you all had any input.i have gotten to much i just started and i would love any help i can get my mother is writing me down all she knows so far we know his name is Charles Jackson Warren , married to a Florence Heath his parents were C J Warren and Emma J Clark. here is let me type it this way: Name: Charles Jackson Warren DOB: June 9,1878 Place of birth:Salem Mass Married : To Florence E Heath on March 4, 1919 in Midway MA..this was his second marriage Date of Death: Oct 12 1950 in Millis MA Grandfather of:Helen E Goodwin married to a James A Goodwin she was born in Natick Ma grew up in Millis now living in Maine --------------------------------------- Father: C.J.Warren Birth place: Marblhead Ma --------------------------------------- Mother: Emma J Clark Birth place:Glouster Ma -------------------------------------- Possible sister: Martha Eliza DOB: 1875 We love to know name of his First wife and where they got married, when and was there and Children..we were told his Mother moved to Walpole and remarried...thanks again for any help.Take care

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Warren's / Goodwins Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WZVBAIB/3283.1.1 Message Board Post: Hello Steven ,thankyou for your respond i have gotten to much i just started and i would love any help i can get my mother is writing me down all she knows so far we know his name is Charles Jackson Warren , married to a Florence Heath his parents were C J Warren and Emma J Clark. here is let me type it this way: Name: Charles Jackson Warren DOB: June 9,1878 Place of birth:Salem Mass Married : To Florence E Heath on March 4, 1919 in Midway MA..this was his second marriage Date of Death: Oct 12 1950 in Millis MA Grandfather of:Helen E Goodwin married to a James A Goodwin she was born in Natick Ma grew up in Millis now living in Maine --------------------------------------- Father: C.J.Warren Birth place: Marblhead Ma --------------------------------------- Mother: Emma J Clark Birth place:Glouster Ma -------------------------------------- Possible sister: Martha Eliza DOB: 1875 We love to know name of his First wife and where they got married, when and was there and Children..we were told his Mother moved to Walpole and remarried...thanks again for any help.Take care

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Warren Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WZVBAIB/3283.1 Message Board Post: I have no info. on Charles Jackson Warren. I have info on Rev. Charles Jarvis Warren. what are the dates you cover? Do you have any approximate locations, town or county data? I can try and locate him if it will help.

Gloria. I have the info you want, I think. Email me priv.. learry@dockpoint.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "gloria m rodas" <gloriamlh@juno.com> To: <WARREN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 12:39 AM Subject: [WARREN] wonderful info sent to me but some she admits is not accurate... > does anyone have better, corrected, proven info??? my questions on info: > > Thomas Warren 1 b. 1604 in Cheshire Eng married Susan Greenleaf in > America (where? when?) > son John Warren b. 1640 VA (where in VA?) married Rachel Sargent in 1679 > in VA (where in VA?) > son Thomas Warren SR b. 1682 in VA (where in VA?) m. Mary Hackley in 1703 > in VA (where in VA?) > son Thomas Warren JR b. 1707 in VA (where in VA?) m. wife2 Avarilla > Goodloe in 1745 in VA (where in VA: what was first wifes name?) > son Thomas Warren III b. 1736 in VA (where in VA?) m. Jane Brown abt 1755 > (was she williams mother<below> and was she married when she gave birth > to > son William Warren b. 1754 in Lunenburg VA (is this date and place > correct?)m. to Elizabeth MNU > was it Williams son Drury who married sarah jamison in 1807,or was it > Thomas III Warrens son Drury b. 1756 who married sarah jamison in 1807, > and Which Drury was the father of John J. Warren who married sarah > cobb??? Does anyone out there have the answers to any of the above > questions so that i don't have to start over? i do have the following: > William Warren > 1820 census > Williamson Co TN > pg 133 > m-0-10 > 2 > > m-40-50 > 1 > > f- 40-50 > 1 > thanks to the list... and thanks to tammy who gave me what she could... > two other listers told me Drury was Williams son , but no one had a birth > date/place for him or anything... > gloria > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > Only $9.95 per month! > Visit www.juno.com > > > ==== WARREN Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, > chain letters, political announcements, current > events, items for sale, personal messages, flames,etc. > (in other words - spam)is NOT ALLOWED and will be > grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, > contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

does anyone have better, corrected, proven info??? my questions on info: Thomas Warren 1 b. 1604 in Cheshire Eng married Susan Greenleaf in America (where? when?) son John Warren b. 1640 VA (where in VA?) married Rachel Sargent in 1679 in VA (where in VA?) son Thomas Warren SR b. 1682 in VA (where in VA?) m. Mary Hackley in 1703 in VA (where in VA?) son Thomas Warren JR b. 1707 in VA (where in VA?) m. wife2 Avarilla Goodloe in 1745 in VA (where in VA: what was first wifes name?) son Thomas Warren III b. 1736 in VA (where in VA?) m. Jane Brown abt 1755 (was she williams mother<below> and was she married when she gave birth to son William Warren b. 1754 in Lunenburg VA (is this date and place correct?)m. to Elizabeth MNU was it Williams son Drury who married sarah jamison in 1807,or was it Thomas III Warrens son Drury b. 1756 who married sarah jamison in 1807, and Which Drury was the father of John J. Warren who married sarah cobb??? Does anyone out there have the answers to any of the above questions so that i don't have to start over? i do have the following: William Warren 1820 census Williamson Co TN pg 133 m-0-10 2 m-40-50 1 f- 40-50 1 thanks to the list... and thanks to tammy who gave me what she could... two other listers told me Drury was Williams son , but no one had a birth date/place for him or anything... gloria ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Warren Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WZVBAIB/3283 Message Board Post: Hello. does anyone have any information on any Warren's ..i'm looking for any info on Charles Jackson Warren ..husband of Florence Heath Warren and his mother name is Emma Clark. from Mass......thanks for any info. Sinoeun Goodwin

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Warren Classification: Lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WZVBAIB/1206.1208.1213 Message Board Post: Hello i'm my name is Sinoeun (C-nun) I am kinda anew at this but i'm trying to help my mother inlaw do some family research. and noticed in you post you had some info on on the Warren's. do think you have any on a Charles J Warren from Ma... he's is i belelive to be her great grandfather..I'd glad love any information i can get...thankyou for taking the time to read this...take care..

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: de Warrennne Waller Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WZVBAIB/1436.1498.1499.1586.1589.1 Message Board Post: Hi, I wonder if you have any information regarding Edmund de Warrenne Waller born 30th June 1900 in Nenagh, Co Tipperary, Ireland? He was my grand-father. Many thanks Jackie

I'm still looking for the the John E. Warren family. John E. Warren born in 1834 in Ireland wife Alicia born 1840 in Ireland they were married in 1865 in St Louis Mo. John came to the U.S. in 1851,Alicia came to the U.S. in 1861. He was a capitalist. She was a dress maker. children: Mary A. born 1869 in Mo. John P.born 1871 in Mo.(my grandfather) James born 1875(died at birth) Joseph born 1877(died at birth) John P. married Viola Creason in 1895 in Mo.they divorced in 1911 in Mo. They had 4 children Baby girl died at birth William B. born Feb22,1900( my dad) Clarence R. b.1906 Ada M.born 1908 I have hit a dead end on John P. after 1911. I have have hit a dead end on the rest of this family. I'd appreciate any help that I can get on this family. Thank you Gloria Seuss

I show Drury Warren as the son of Thomas Warren III and Jane Brown. Learry Warren ----- Original Message ----- From: <BPrater@aol.com> To: <WARREN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 2:56 AM Subject: Re: [WARREN] Searching for WARREN family of TN > Hi Rick, > > Good to hear from you again. > > I have to believe that my Henry is from that Thomas Warren 3rd group. He > could be from Zachariah but I wonder why he didn't name any of his family or > none of his descendants were named after Zachariah. Unless they had a > falling out of some kind. I hadn't thought of that. > > It sure does look like my Henry was in Tennessee several years before > Zachariah migrated from Virginia over to Robertson County. I think I am > missing one move for my Henry. Those sons that were born in Tennessee I > don't believe were born in Warren County. There was an 1812 tax list and > Henry wasn't on it. Maybe you had to own land though and he didn't own any > land there until after 1820. > > That William that the lady was talking about was Zachariah's brother and he > moved into Williamson County. That's two counties to the west of Warren > County. > > I don't believe I'll ever tie Henry to any one of them because the records > were just never made or if they were they were not recorded in any court > records. > > Bob > > > > ==== WARREN Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, > send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to > WARREN-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM or > WARREN-D-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > if you are on the Digest list. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Rick, Good to hear from you again. I have to believe that my Henry is from that Thomas Warren 3rd group. He could be from Zachariah but I wonder why he didn't name any of his family or none of his descendants were named after Zachariah. Unless they had a falling out of some kind. I hadn't thought of that. It sure does look like my Henry was in Tennessee several years before Zachariah migrated from Virginia over to Robertson County. I think I am missing one move for my Henry. Those sons that were born in Tennessee I don't believe were born in Warren County. There was an 1812 tax list and Henry wasn't on it. Maybe you had to own land though and he didn't own any land there until after 1820. That William that the lady was talking about was Zachariah's brother and he moved into Williamson County. That's two counties to the west of Warren County. I don't believe I'll ever tie Henry to any one of them because the records were just never made or if they were they were not recorded in any court records. Bob