Good points all. Post war, the Americans would debate Land Grants for their soldiers who served, and the US Congress denied this motion. Then the Congress began a three day debate about Canadian Refugees and their staggering number of 10,000 signatories at Batavia NY in 1817. This debate resulted in assigning Land Warrants to Upper Canadians that lost all in claiming refuge. Not all were US immigrant settlers though, as there were also Loyalist sons in the mix, largely due to the British retreat from Fort George in 1813, and the subsequent British Assize Court that continued to 1818. The Congressional debate continued, to reopen the decision to deny US soldiers Land Claims for service. The Congress re-voted and decided it would be shameful not to grant land for US military service, and the privately held Land Grants in the American midwest were then open for assignment. This would also lead to opportunity for the crowded original 13 colonies to settle the midwest. As of 1820, 20,000 Quakers moved acrossed the Appliations to settle Ohio, Illionis, Indiana and Wyoming territory, forming core farming communities. From these Congressional actions, the US would leap forward in settling the mdiwest and western continent. The British would have a contentious Selkirk experiment (1820s) and continue to bog down with conflicts between furtraders and a any determined settlement policy. Also the British control assigned the Upper Canadian Family Compact would prove at odds with liberties existing pre War of 1812, and Republican ideals would remain supressed beyond the MacKenzie Rebellion years of 1837 until Responsible Government of 1848 started to take hold. Murray >>>> What about the Orders in Council? That was much of the problem. Those were rescinded, albeit too late to stop the War. What about British impressment? It stopped. While it is true that the "War Hawks" in our Congress wanted to take Canada, most people weren't in favor of that. They were mad about the trade issues and the impressment. Rose in KY -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .