The War of 1812 was a draw as far the exchange of territory goes. Someone previously stated that the Americans didn't meet their military objective, but the British met theirs, which is very accurate. However, it was the post war era that would be the determining win. The British wasted their advantage, and by a quirk of irony, the Americans rose to claim theirs. I have written previously about the Upper Canadian Bloody Assize Court of 1813-1818 and records that I had discovered, which were locked away in a vault until 1953, to be promptly misfiled until my discovery in 2001. In conjunction I researched the US Congressional record, to find that at the end of the War of 1812, 10,000 Canadians claimed refugee status in the US, of which this became a heated three day debate within Congress. Up to that time, Congress had declined to offer land grants to it's officers and soldiers for their service. Once Congress decided to grant land warrants to these Canadian refugees, it was almost unanimous that the US should readress this issue of land grants for their own soldiers. This would lead to the opening of the US mid west for settlement, which up to this point land was privately owned in large blocks by consortiums. This was to become the next step in Jeffersonian "Manifest Destiny". Murray PS only from Canada eh?....pity! -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .