A different perspective from a Canadian who's GGGranfather was in the war, and who came to Canada because of the war as a soldier. Upper Canada was sparsely populated before the war except for some UELs who moved here after the American Revolution. I believe that because of the war Britain realized how vulnerable Canada was to the US and of course had a stronger presence and encouraged settlement. My ancestor was granted land and kept on half pay for 3 years. He left the Glengarry Light Infantry fencibles and settled in Canada as many others did. I believe as a indirect result Britain won by establishing a strong presence and settlement in Canada. Other wise who knows, without the war settlement would have been mainly by Americans looking for new lands and possible would have eventully been absorbed into the USA. My thoughts, Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: <Naval1812@aol.com> To: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [WARof1812] Who won the War of 1812 > In a message dated 9/21/04 8:50:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > VolonteW@aol.com > writes: > >> I think the War of 1812 was a draw. > > I tend to agree with this statement. We ended up here we started sad did > the > British. There was, however, many great building blocks for the USA. The > fallacy of depending on a "militia" was discovered, and a professional > army was > aborning. WE see the first glimmering of the steam engine Naval period. > > The need for the individual states to "truly" band together in a Federal > government to preserve and grow the country was discovered. > > Thinking about it as I write I would say that the Nation discovered itself > during this period. > > Barry--- > > Look for Dickey's soon to publish book that sill say we lost the War. > > > ==== WARof1812 Mailing List ==== > MESSAGE HINT: Limit your per line characters > to 55 to 70 for a much better return message. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >