Thanks Patrick, I just got back from the archives. I have all of the Drowns but Mijcajah. I corresponded in the past with a descendant of his. I am looking for anything in files that help identify my families or rule out a person. In attempt to identify the missing sons of Wm Drown, I started going through all the Drown civil war pension files of men from NY, PA, Mi, Wisc, Mo and Iowa. I got about half way through. I also have Arantus Everts pension file. from the War of 1812. He was high ranking and served on some council .He lived in the Hector area of NY. Also from that area was a Joseph Gillespie who was killed in the battle of Lewiston. He was a Rev veteran and his bounty land was the area where Burdet in Hector, Schuyler county is located. I also have some Joseph and Samuel Hyatts pension files that I am trying to identify. Am I right in assuming that the Wm. Downs does not have a pension file Thanks again everyone, Marilyn Bess ----- Original Message ----- From: " Patrick" <Patrick20@comcast.net> To: "Marilyn Bess" <bess@penn.com> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:49 PM Subject: Re: [WARof1812] Swift's and Dobbins Regiment (1814), New York Vols. > Marilyn > The only Drown names appearing in the pension files are( Aaron; Infantry, > state?)( Benjamin; Virginia,)( Gilbert; NY,)(Micajah; New > Hampshire, )(Moses; New Hampshire,)( Samuel; New Hampshire, )(Ezra; New > Hampshire) > Patrick > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marilyn Bess" <bess@penn.com> > To: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 12:27 PM > Subject: Re: [WARof1812] Swift's and Dobbins Regiment (1814), New York Vols. > > > >I believe the book does says Dobbins unit. there are several who later > > appear in Bradford,County, PA in the same unit. I will have to get a list > > of > > them. You probably have not idea where this Downs would have been from. By > > the way I have several War of 1812 pension files, mostly Carson, Hyatt. > > Drown, Shaver. Thanks you > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: " Patrick" <Patrick20@comcast.net> > > To: "Marilyn Bess" <bess@penn.com> > > Cc: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:02 PM > > Subject: Re: [WARof1812] Swift's and Dobbins Regiment (1814), New York > > Vols. > > > > > >> Marilyn, > >> Gilbert Drown does not show up in the records of the Swift's & Dobbin's > > unit > >> but does show up in Dobbin's 2nd Regiment of New York Militia, and then > >> in > >> Swift's 2nd Regiment of New York Militia. Only a time frame, and their > >> Captain compared with each units service history could detirmine if it > >> was > >> Swift's & Dobbin's Regiment at the time. There isn't a record of a > >> William > >> Drown or variant in all three units. > >> There is a William G. Downs serving in Dobbin's 18th NY Regiment, and > >> you > >> can put a William Brown in all four. > >> Patrick > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Marilyn Bess" <bess@penn.com> > >> To: " Patrick" <Patrick20@comcast.net> > >> Cc: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 11:12 AM > >> Subject: Re: [WARof1812] Swift's and Dobbins Regiment (1814), New York > > Vols. > >> > >> > >> > Does anyone have a list of the members of this unit? I have the bounty > >> > land > >> > records of Gilbert Drown who was in this unit. I have his pay stubs > >> > from > >> > some other units. I am looking for a Wm Drown or might be Brown or > > variant > >> > spelling who along with several other are mention in the book "Along > >> > the > >> > Susquehanna". Some of these might be from Erie county as Wm had a > > daughter > >> > born there in about 1812. Marilyn Bess > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: " Patrick" <Patrick20@comcast.net> > >> > To: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> > >> > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 2:37 PM > >> > Subject: Re: [WARof1812] Swift's and Dobbins Regiment (1814), New York > >> > Vols. > >> > > >> > > >> >> Swift & Dobbins > >> >> Google individually variations of the following and you will locate > >> >> information about the two individuals alone and this Regiment. > >> >> Philetus Swift > >> >> Hugh W. Dobbin > >> >> Swift's & Dobbin's > >> >> > >> >> Be sure to add the apostrophe. Swift's & or Dobbin's > >> >> Ontario County & ChautauQua County New York > >> >> Patrick > >> >> > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> From: "Marianne Punshon" <mipunshon@optusnet.com.au> > >> >> To: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> > >> >> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 10:21 PM > >> >> Subject: Re: [WARof1812] Swift's and Dobbins Regiment (1814), New York > >> > Vols. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >I am also interested in this regiment and any other NY volunteers. > >> >> > > >> >> > Marianne in sunny Melbourne, Australia > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >> If you have anything for Swift's and Dobbins, I, too, have an > >> > interest. > >> >> >> James Beard/Baird of Candor (formerly of Worcester County, > >> >> >> Massachusetts) who > >> >> >> went missing and whose small estate was in probate by 1814. 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Marilyn There is a William Down with an old War pension file #IF25031 who served in Captn Opie's Company of the 5th US Infantry which answers your next Query question as to if Militia and US Infantry were covered in the pensions. Also found are those with no pensions received, but land received. Captn. Leroy Opie was born in Va and joined in Va. He was a 2Lt in 1808, 1Lt in 1809 and Captain 26 jun 1813. The 5th was formed of men mostly from Penn Patrick Cummings ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Bess" <bess@penn.com> To: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 8:16 AM Subject: Re: [WARof1812] Swift's and Dobbins Regiment (1814), New York Vols. > Thanks Patrick, I just got back from the archives. I have all of the > Drowns > but Mijcajah. I corresponded in the past with a descendant of his. I am > looking for anything in files that help identify my families or rule out a > person. In attempt to identify the missing sons of Wm Drown, I started > going > through all the Drown civil war pension files of men from NY, PA, Mi, > Wisc, > Mo and Iowa. I got about half way through. I also have Arantus Everts > pension file. from the War of 1812. He was high ranking and served on some > council .He lived in the Hector area of NY. Also from that area was a > Joseph Gillespie who was killed in the battle of Lewiston. He was a Rev > veteran and his bounty land was the area where Burdet in Hector, Schuyler > county is located. I also have some Joseph and Samuel Hyatts pension > files that I am trying to identify. Am I right in assuming that the Wm. > Downs does not have a pension file Thanks again everyone, Marilyn Bess > ----- Original Message ----- > From: " Patrick" <Patrick20@comcast.net> > To: "Marilyn Bess" <bess@penn.com> > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:49 PM > Subject: Re: [WARof1812] Swift's and Dobbins Regiment (1814), New York > Vols. > > >> Marilyn >> The only Drown names appearing in the pension files are( Aaron; Infantry, >> state?)( Benjamin; Virginia,)( Gilbert; NY,)(Micajah; New >> Hampshire, )(Moses; New Hampshire,)( Samuel; New Hampshire, )(Ezra; New >> Hampshire) >> Patrick >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marilyn Bess" <bess@penn.com> >> To: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 12:27 PM >> Subject: Re: [WARof1812] Swift's and Dobbins Regiment (1814), New York > Vols. >> >> >> >I believe the book does says Dobbins unit. there are several who later >> > appear in Bradford,County, PA in the same unit. I will have to get a > list >> > of >> > them. You probably have not idea where this Downs would have been from. > By >> > the way I have several War of 1812 pension files, mostly Carson, Hyatt. >> > Drown, Shaver. Thanks you >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: " Patrick" <Patrick20@comcast.net> >> > To: "Marilyn Bess" <bess@penn.com> >> > Cc: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:02 PM >> > Subject: Re: [WARof1812] Swift's and Dobbins Regiment (1814), New York >> > Vols. >> > >> > >> >> Marilyn, >> >> Gilbert Drown does not show up in the records of the Swift's & >> >> Dobbin's >> > unit >> >> but does show up in Dobbin's 2nd Regiment of New York Militia, and >> >> then >> >> in >> >> Swift's 2nd Regiment of New York Militia. Only a time frame, and their >> >> Captain compared with each units service history could detirmine if it >> >> was >> >> Swift's & Dobbin's Regiment at the time. There isn't a record of a >> >> William >> >> Drown or variant in all three units. >> >> There is a William G. Downs serving in Dobbin's 18th NY Regiment, and >> >> you >> >> can put a William Brown in all four. >> >> Patrick >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Marilyn Bess" <bess@penn.com> >> >> To: " Patrick" <Patrick20@comcast.net> >> >> Cc: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> >> >> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 11:12 AM >> >> Subject: Re: [WARof1812] Swift's and Dobbins Regiment (1814), New York >> > Vols. >> >> >> >> >> >> > Does anyone have a list of the members of this unit? I have the > bounty >> >> > land >> >> > records of Gilbert Drown who was in this unit. I have his pay stubs >> >> > from >> >> > some other units. I am looking for a Wm Drown or might be Brown or >> > variant >> >> > spelling who along with several other are mention in the book "Along >> >> > the >> >> > Susquehanna". Some of these might be from Erie county as Wm had a >> > daughter >> >> > born there in about 1812. Marilyn Bess >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> > From: " Patrick" <Patrick20@comcast.net> >> >> > To: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> >> >> > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 2:37 PM >> >> > Subject: Re: [WARof1812] Swift's and Dobbins Regiment (1814), New > York >> >> > Vols. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> Swift & Dobbins >> >> >> Google individually variations of the following and you will locate >> >> >> information about the two individuals alone and this Regiment. >> >> >> Philetus Swift >> >> >> Hugh W. Dobbin >> >> >> Swift's & Dobbin's >> >> >> >> >> >> Be sure to add the apostrophe. Swift's & or Dobbin's >> >> >> Ontario County & ChautauQua County New York >> >> >> Patrick >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> From: "Marianne Punshon" <mipunshon@optusnet.com.au> >> >> >> To: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> >> >> >> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 10:21 PM >> >> >> Subject: Re: [WARof1812] Swift's and Dobbins Regiment (1814), New > York >> >> > Vols. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I am also interested in this regiment and any other NY volunteers. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Marianne in sunny Melbourne, Australia >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> If you have anything for Swift's and Dobbins, I, too, have an >> >> > interest. >> >> >> >> James Beard/Baird of Candor (formerly of Worcester County, >> >> >> >> Massachusetts) who >> >> >> >> went missing and whose small estate was in probate by 1814. No >> > trace >> >> > of >> >> >> >> him >> >> >> >> anywhere. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Adele in rainy Seattle >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== WARof1812 Mailing List ==== >> >> >> >> NEW WAR OF 1812 LIST MEMBERS >> >> >> >> are encouraged to post your >> >> >> >> queries to our list anytime. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ============================== >> >> >> >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added > in >> > the >> >> >> >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn > more: >> >> >> >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > ==== WARof1812 Mailing List ==== >> >> >> > ADDRESS MESSAGES TO: >> >> >> > WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com >> >> >> > >> >> >> > ============================== >> >> >> > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >> >> >> > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. 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