Hi, Am I missing something here ? I recently requested copies of records from NARA regarrding an ancestor in the War of 1812. It could take appx 8 weeks,according to NARA. Does anyone know of a way that I can obtain these records more quickly ? Thanks in advance for any assistance. ===== Jules Nunn New Orleans, La. USA __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com

I am wondering if anyone has a way to determine if a Sexton or Saxton from Maryland might have served in the War of 1812? I am sorry I do not have any more information. Gary Morrison

THIS MESSAGE FAILED TO REACH OUR WAR OF 1812 MAILING LIST. I AM FOR- WARDING THIS IN AN EFFORT TO HELP ANNE WITH HER LAIRD RESEARCHING OK PLEASE DIRECT ALL OUR REPLIES DIRECTLY TO HER ADDRESS LISTED BELOW I have a quote from the Linn's History of Centre Co, PA that WILLIAM LAIRD was a veteran of the War of 1812. He was born c1787 and died c1861 Worth Twp., Centre Co., PA. The earliest I've found him is in the Morris Twp, Huntingdon Co, PA 1830 Census. I don't know where in PA he was residing at the time of his enlistment. Is there any possibility of finding him amongst all the veterans from PA of that war??! Thanks for any advice and help. Anne <crice@southpenn.net>

I am searching for any information on the STOLTZ brothers - Samuel and Daniel who enlisted in Ohio. 114th Regiment. B

Library Of Virginia SEARCHABLE Index to War of 1812 Pay Rolls and Muster Rolls <A HREF="http://eagle.vsla.edu/war1812/virtua.html">Index to War of 1812 Pay Rolls and Muster Rolls</A> http://eagle.vsla.edu/war1812/virtua.html Gary W. Shaver Shaver To Schaber Genealogical Research Roanoke, VA

My g/g/Grandfather William Blackman Ligon was in the War of 1812. He had resided in Covington , La. and had engaged in the schooner trade between Covington, New Orleans and Pensacola, Fla. Do you have any information on him? I would appreciate hearing from you. Thanks. J,W, Carmena, Jr. , Baton Rouge, La.

Please see if you have a David Nelson, surgeon's mate. He was probably from Philadelphia but settled in Jefferson County, NY where he married Sophia Patrick Dec., 1816. He became a member of the Jeff. Co. Medical Society until his death about 1830. Any help is appreciated. There is no pension application that I could find. Carolyn Bulgey cbulgey@adelphia.net

I have a book called "A Gentlemanly and Honorable Profession" The Creation of The U.S. Naval Officer Corps, 1794-1815. If you have an ancestor from the War of 1812 in the Navy, let me know and I will look to see if there is anything in this book. My Caton ancestors are mentioned briefly, so I just had to have the book. Sue

Are the battles fought in Alabama in 1814 with the Creek Indians part of that war ? Am Southern born and bred and darn proud of it Am researching maternally:ballard,briley,clubbs,george,gillihan,goolsby,jackson,link(9x),majors,pool/poole,summers,thompson paternally:ausbrooks,barber,:brown,freeland,gant,kirkham,mcquiston,moye,parker,rippy,tipton,whitson Brenda Parker ibssg --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes

Are the battles in Alabama in 1814 with the Creek Indians part of that war Am Southern born and bred and darn proud of it Am researching maternally:ballard,briley,clubbs,george,gillihan,goolsby,jackson,link(9x),majors,pool/poole,summers,thompson paternally:ausbrooks,barber,:brown,freeland,gant,kirkham,mcquiston,moye,parker,rippy,tipton,whitson Brenda Parker ibssg --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes

Was this person in the War of 1812 in Baltimore? Thanks

hi group, I just signed up here , an have need of a book that tell the story of the war , such as , Who fought it and Where , anybody have any suggestions for titles ?? , I am curious why a Horace Flower , Capt of ( Hayes ) th 3d Ohio Miltila only served 4 days ( Aug 24 -28 1812 ) , Or did he serve elsewhere after this ?? ........ I am somewhat puzzeled by what I am finding , The NARA has his name in the Index card file as serving in the 3d Ohio Militia Or maybe the 8th ( its hard to read ) , and I find him in the Roster of solders from Ohio as being in Capt Horace Flowers Company , Are these one and the same ??? , Phil . and cross posting to Ohio -L !

Hi Sue Not what you are asking, but your message gives me the opportunity to advise that my first attempt at volume 6 of Captain Chamier's 1837 edition of William James Naval Histroy of Great Britain, which includes the British perspective of the War of 1812 and includes details of some of the engagements you mention: (as originally written c 1824-1827) can be down loaded in .pdf format from: 1811 @ 600 Kb which includes the index or list of contents http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pbtyc/Naval_History/Vol_VI/1811.pdf 1812: @ 1238 KB http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pbtyc/Naval_History/Vol_VI/1812.pdf 1813: @ 742 Kb http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pbtyc/Naval_History/Vol_VI/1813.pdf 1814: @ 548 Kb http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pbtyc/Naval_History/Vol_VI/1814.pdf I should add that William James, whilst an excellent historian comes over at the extreme end of the word pedantic at times ;-), and had, I understand, a rather unpleasant experience in the USA during the war or in the period leading up to this war, so he wasn't exactly "fond" of his N American cousins - and this sadly shows through in the narrative - so this should be born in mind if and when you read it ;-) And he and Mr Clark, a well known US Historian could understandably never agree and used to insult each other from a distance ;-) The rest of the volume is there, but I've excluded the files as being off-topic. Regards Paul Isle of Portland On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 17:40:07 -0400, Dana & Susan King <godogs@warwick.net> wrote: >Hello, >I am new to this list and am looking for info on my ancestor Richard >Caton. >Wondering if anyone might have this book: >Christopher McKee's book "A Gentlemanly and Honorable Profession: The >Creation of the U.S. >Naval Officers Corps 1794-1815" published by the Naval Institute Press, >Annapolis, 1991 > >If anyone has this book could you please look up any info on the >following person? > >Richard CATON Sr. Born on 25 Oct 1793 in Maryland. >Richard died in Hardyston, Sussex, NJ on 25 Mar 1872; he was 78. >Buried in Stockholm Meth. Church Cemetery, NJ. . > >War of 1812 pension book >NATIONAL ARCHIVES, Washington, DC - War of 1812 Pension Records >with bounty land number. > Masters Mate and Midshipman US Navy - War of 1812. > Enlisted June 26, 1811 - Discharged May 20, 1816, Sackett’s Harbor, >Jefferson County, NY > Served as Midshipman under Captain Malancthon Taylor Moultry on the >Brigatine “Oneida”-18 guns,  Schooner “Sylph”-10 guns, Brigatine >“Jones”-22 guns. Engaged in battles at Kingston, Toronto, > Fort George, Genesee River and Head of Lake Ontario. > Served 5 years in the U.S. Navy, received a pension of $8.00 a month. > >March 25, 2002 received Bounty Land records. An Act of Congress was >approved on >March 3, 1855 which granted Bounty Land to certain officers and soldiers >who engaged >in the Military Service of the US. Richard was granted 160 acres in >Chatfield, >Fillmore County, Minnesota. >Papers dated July 24,1856 and papers dated 17 March 1856, Richard Caton >sold the land to George Melvin. > >Any info on Richard Caton is greatly appreciated, I believe he also had >a brother in >the war who was a Surgeon. His name was William Caton. >Thanking anyone who can help in advance. >Sue > > >==== WARof1812 Mailing List ==== >WAR OF 1812 QUERY BOARD >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USWARS/War1812/General > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 50.33.50N 02.26.70W

Would anyone have this book? Hamersly's "General Register of the U.S. Navy and Marine Corps 1782-1882 if so would someone look up Richard Caton his brother William Caton they both were in the War of 1812 around the Sackett's Harbor, NY area. Thank you. Sue

Hello, I am new to this list and am looking for info on my ancestor Richard Caton. Wondering if anyone might have this book: Christopher McKee's book "A Gentlemanly and Honorable Profession: The Creation of the U.S. Naval Officers Corps 1794-1815" published by the Naval Institute Press, Annapolis, 1991 If anyone has this book could you please look up any info on the following person? Richard CATON Sr. Born on 25 Oct 1793 in Maryland. Richard died in Hardyston, Sussex, NJ on 25 Mar 1872; he was 78. Buried in Stockholm Meth. Church Cemetery, NJ. . War of 1812 pension book NATIONAL ARCHIVES, Washington, DC - War of 1812 Pension Records with bounty land number.  Masters Mate and Midshipman US Navy - War of 1812.  Enlisted June 26, 1811 - Discharged May 20, 1816, Sackett’s Harbor, Jefferson County, NY  Served as Midshipman under Captain Malancthon Taylor Moultry on the Brigatine “Oneida”-18 guns,  Schooner “Sylph”-10 guns, Brigatine “Jones”-22 guns. Engaged in battles at Kingston, Toronto,  Fort George, Genesee River and Head of Lake Ontario.  Served 5 years in the U.S. Navy, received a pension of $8.00 a month. March 25, 2002 received Bounty Land records. An Act of Congress was approved on March 3, 1855 which granted Bounty Land to certain officers and soldiers who engaged in the Military Service of the US. Richard was granted 160 acres in Chatfield, Fillmore County, Minnesota. Papers dated July 24,1856 and papers dated 17 March 1856, Richard Caton sold the land to George Melvin. Any info on Richard Caton is greatly appreciated, I believe he also had a brother in the war who was a Surgeon. His name was William Caton. Thanking anyone who can help in advance. Sue

As some of you may know, the vote on the bill was postponed until August 6, so since you can still contact the California Assembly, please do so. Ginny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley Roberts" <shirlroberts@sbcglobal.net> To: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 1:07 AM Subject: re: CA Bill SB1614, no more Birth or Death Certificates in CA > Dear Friends, Family and Fellow Researchers: I received this this afternoon. Needless to say, it is VERY important that we all contact the California State Assembly, before they meet for the vote in the morning. This will impact people all over the country, but will make it hardest for we Californians. We don't have much time, but it is VERY important that we contact everyone we know and let the Legislators know how "stupid" this new law will be. If the laws on the books already were just enforced, we would not need more new laws, such as this. > I have been asked to forward this very important notice that requires > your immediate attention. Our politicians are at it again. PLEASE ACT > TODAY. > Thank you > SCGS > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > Subject: Impending legislation alert > From: Fran Bumann <fbumann@earthlink.net> > Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 12:18:21 -0700 > > > ALERT > > Well, our esteemed Senator announced this afternoon that the Hearing > for SB1614 WILL BE HEARD on July 1, 2002. It is imperative that we > take the time to write the Assembly Judiciary Committee of our > objections. > > The Hearing will take place immediately following the Floor Session > scheduled Monday at 11 a.m. What time is the Hearing? I am sorry but > there is no way to tell. > > The Legislation will have floor session Saturday and Sunday [working > on the budget] , so there will be staff in their offices to received > you fax and Email messages. > > I am including below the Alert Statement sent by BastardNations which > will give you more details, or check my last report, June 27, 2002. > Jean has also furnished us with the list of the Committee members and > how to reach them. > > We also received information that the following language has been > removed from the bill. Obviously, they figured out that it was > unconstitutional. > > Section 1 > (d) (1) An individual, corporation, or other business entity that > purchased a comprehensive index prepared by the State Registrar > pursuant to subdivision (a) from the State Registrar prior to > December 31, 2001, may not use, or sell, share, or disclose any of > the information contained therein to a third party. > (2) Any person who, in violation of this section uses, sells, > shares, or discloses any information provided pursuant to this > section, or who uses information provided pursuant to this section in > a manner other than as authorized pursuant to this section, may be > denied further access to any personally identifying information or > confidential information maintained by the department. That person > shall also be subject to the assessment of a civil penalty by the > department in the amount of ____ ($____). The penalty provided in > this section shall not be construed as restricting any remedy, > criminal, provisional, or otherwise, provided by law for the benefit > of the department or any person. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steffen, Richard" <Richard.Steffen@sen.ca.gov> > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 2:58 PM > On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 14:06:28 -0700, "Jean" <acconet@attbi.com> wrote: > > NOTE: The Bastard Nations has organized a rally for 12 noon on the > South Steps of the Capital with Speakers from opposition groups and > media coverage. You are invited to join the rally. If you can come > let me know. My compliments to Jean and her team for moving so quickly > to get this rally back on track. > > --------------------------------------------------------- > ACTION ALERT: > > URGENT ACTION NEEDED IN CALIFORNIA! ACCESS TO BIRTH INDEX UNDER > ATTACK! TELL CALIFORNIA STATE ASSEMBLY JUDICIARY COMMITTEE MEMBERS: > VOTE NO ON SB1614! PRESERVE PUBLIC ACCESS TO CALIFORNIA BIRTH AND > DEATH INDICES. > > SB1614 was passed by the California Senate and will now be heard by > the California State Assembly Judiciary Committee on MONDAY, JULY 1st. > This bill is trying to zip through under the radar,and must be > derailed NOW. Please call, fax, and e-mail ALL MEMBERS OF THE > CALIFORNIA STATE ASSEMBLY JUDICIARY COMMITTEE TODAY and urge a DO > NOT PASS vote on SB1614. Fax and e-mail should be sent by FRIDAY, JUNE > 28th. The bill, sponsored by Senator Jackie Speier, seeks to remove > California's birth and death indices from the public domain, where > they have been generally available to the public since 1905. The > passage of this bill will transform a century of public information > into closely guarded state secrets. > > SB1614 would foster secrecy in government. Citizens would no longer be > able to access government-held, public information on their own > histories and identities. 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Is there a published regimental history for the 21st Regiment of US Infantry during the War of 1812? Dean Scribner Las Vegas, Nevada

He may have been an in the US Army or in the militia of another state - do you know when and where he came from? You might try the County Recorders Office at the courthouse in Jefferson County. They keep the graves registration records for all known veterans - this was started in the 1930's by the WPA and is kept up to date by Ohio State law. Scott Baker -----Original Message----- From: Brianabuckeye@aol.com [mailto:Brianabuckeye@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 7:23 PM To: WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Col. James Moores According to his grandson, Mr. James Moores became a colonel in the War of 1812. I know this because his grandson reported it to the fellow who wrote the history of Jefferson County, Ohio. So, it has to be true, right? <g> Well, you guessed my problem. The fellow isn't in any roster of Ohio soldiers. There are James Moores but they are only privates. James' dad was a judge so he comes from a respectable family. It just might be true. What sources would you recommend I go to next to prove or disprove before I contact NARA? Brian L. Cole Researching Coles from England to MD to OH ==== WARof1812 Mailing List ==== UNSUBSCRIPTION DIRECTIONS Warof1812-L-request@rootsweb.com UNSUBSCRIBE [in body of message] Warof1812-D-request@rootsweb.com UNSUBSCRIBE [in body of message] ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Recently I discovered that my great great grandfather Charles LUCIUS Barrett may have served in he War of 1812. According to claim # 12308 filed by his widow Abalina Jackson Gregory from Porters Corner, Saratoga County, NY, Charles LUCIUS Barrett served under a Major Dalby and a Captain David T. Welsh in the Ordinance Dept. In a sworn statement dated 28 June 1864, Abalina swore that her husband Charles LUCIUS Barrett was the identical person who served under the name of John Lee. Charles LUCIUS, the son of Joseph Barrette and Marion Bary was born in France, near Belgium in 1789. He came to the U.S. with his brother Harry and they settled near Boylston, NY, and/or Greenfield Center. Anyone having any information about the unit commanded by a Major Dalby and/or a Capt. Welsh in Ordinance, is requested to contact me. According to the National Archives this claim was "REJECTED" but no reason for the denial was given. I find it hard to believe that both his widow and his daughter Sarah D. Synder (26 November 1895) would both file a claim if Charles LUCIUS had not served his new country. Further, Charles LUCIAN Barrett, son of Abalina and Charles LUCIUS Barrett, enlisted in the U.S. Artillery and served in the Mexican War. Don Barrett

According to his grandson, Mr. James Moores became a colonel in the War of 1812. I know this because his grandson reported it to the fellow who wrote the history of Jefferson County, Ohio. So, it has to be true, right? <g> Well, you guessed my problem. The fellow isn't in any roster of Ohio soldiers. There are James Moores but they are only privates. James' dad was a judge so he comes from a respectable family. It just might be true. What sources would you recommend I go to next to prove or disprove before I contact NARA? Brian L. Cole Researching Coles from England to MD to OH