For the 190th time (You would think they would have learned by now) the Yanks will try to invade Hamilton Ontario by way of Stoney Creek. Grab your muskets boys and take 'em at the bayonet point! http://www.battlefieldhouse.ca (Of course the details are a year old. - the event is this weekend June 7 & 8 in Stoney Creek Ontario.) Nelson. Who will be waving out the window as our boys go past! --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.487 / Virus Database: 286 - Release Date: 01-Jun-03

News Flash!!! I've got unconfirmed report that today the U.S. Congress voted to declare war on England. Ok I'm 111 years late on this news flash. Blame Canada Post! Nelson --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.487 / Virus Database: 286 - Release Date: 01-Jun-03

Isaac Revere was born in New York City on 7/27/1795. When he died 8/14/1885 his obituary stated that he served with the Washington Gray's during the War of 1812. I am looking for information about his service record. The 8th NY was created in May 1784. It was given the name Washington Gray's after marching in George's inaugural parade. Sometime after 1809 they became part of the 4th Regiment of Artillery and became the 3rd Regiment of NY State Artillery in 1812. Can anyone tell me if the original outfit retained the name Washington Gray's during this entire period? Also, where is the best place to search for information about this outfit, it's service, it's rosters, etc.? I've had little success on the internet. Al Beasley

Okay, you guys.. I need to pick your brains.. What do you know about Land Records? I found one online and it says... "KNOW YE that in pursuance of the Acts of Congress appropriating and granting land to the late Army of the United States passed on and since the sixth day of May, 1812, MARY STICE DAUGHTER & THE OTHER HEIRS AT LAW OF SOLOMON NETTLES DECEASED, having deposited in the General land office a warrant in THEIR favor, numbered 23259 there is granted unto the paid MARY STICE daughter & other heirs at law of Sol. Nettles late a Private in Ramsey Compay of the first Regiment of Riflemen a certain tract of land containing One hundred Sixty acres being......." [describes where] NOW, I take it that this land was given to Solomon NETTLES for his army service? Does this mean that he died in the war? OR does this mean that he got the land, and then died, and the heirs are taking the land? Who knows about this? Lanita Sconce Miller Wichita, KS For information on my families, check out my website: www.lanitasloft.com Am I the only person up my tree... sure seems like it.

Hello List, Does anyone have information on Capt. W.S.Foster's Co. - Capt. Malachi Corning's Co. - Capt J.W. Weeks Co. I believe they were in the 11th U.S.Infy. which was changed to the 6th U.S. Infy after May 17,1815 Do you know what battles they were in and where they fought them? Is there a list of thier enlisted men? Thanks Thelma

2 pages, an unfortunate luck of the draw, but you may not be done, in fact I would bet that you are not. Lets find out!! In the 3rd Regiment Artillery there are two Moorefields, John R Moorefield and John Moorefield, probably one and the same. The two pages you received should have entries that reflect both names if they do not then you have only John R. Moorefield's file and another file to go. The records you mentioned show up as being First Lt. John Williams' Company, but Lt. John Williams was under the command of Capt.. Matthew Sims Company of Artillery Virginia Militia, otherwise know as Sims'. NOW, in this Sims' Company we have another John R. Morefield (note the single o). I know who I think this John R. Morefield could be and I am betting you do also. So at minimum we have at least one more file, probably two and I would not be surprised if there were more, that are actually one and the same person. I have seen many of the indexing systems in error and records not listed where records exist, so there could be more. Also the commanding officer of Captain Sims is not listed and there is the need to run him down and find out if John Moorefield is listed as having served anywhere else. With all of his records, times frames served accumulated, and the Regiments Commander found, there will be a better chance of locating what engagements were served in, unless that is, that John Moorefied, Lt John Williams or Captain Matthew Sims distinguished them selves in one of the engagements and has been written about. Hopefully some one out there may have some info for you on this Regiment and its Company. Hope this helps Patrick ----- Original Message ----- From: <JHEWITT55@aol.com> To: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 5:27 PM Subject: 3rd Art'y VA State Militia > I just got my ancestors John R. Moorefield "record" not much info, 2 pages, > states that he was under Lieut. John Williams' Company of the Art'y Militia, 3 > Reg't State Art'y. > > Anyone have any info on what engagements this unit was involved with and > where? > Thanks > > > > ==== WARof1812 Mailing List ==== > Need List Assistance: > <commander@inetone.net> > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I just got my ancestors John R. Moorefield "record" not much info, 2 pages, states that he was under Lieut. John Williams' Company of the Art'y Militia, 3 Reg't State Art'y. Anyone have any info on what engagements this unit was involved with and where? Thanks

Just wondering if there are subscribers to this list who belong to GS1812 and the various state societies. If so, would you please contact me, privately? Thanks. Dave McDonald

I am researching an ancestor named Philip POLLARD who was born in approximately 1790. He lived in NC, and might also have lived at times in VA and SC. I found the following information for a Philip POLLARD on Ancestry.com in the War of 1812 Service Records Database. I have no idea whether or not it pertains to the same man I am researching. Name: Philip Pollard Company: Col. Ulmer's Regiment US Volunteers Rank Induction: Soldier Rank Discharge: Soldier Roll Box: 166 Roll Exct: 602 Does anyone know where Colonel Ulmer's Regiment was formed? I would like to know if it was in the correct area before I send for the records. If it is the correct area, would I need to write to the NARA for the service record? Ancestry recommends asking for the "Compiled Military Service Records". Any help or further information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Robyn Collins

Colonel George Ulmer and seven out of eight Captains in the US volunteers show up as being from Maine. There is also a Phillipps Pollard that shows in Maine in the 1830 census at the same time a Phillip Pollard shows in NC. in 1830. I don't see either on the census prior to 1830 going back to and including 1810. ----- Original Message ----- From: <RobCOLL224@aol.com> To: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 7:17 PM Subject: Re: How to obtain War of 1812 info? Name: Philip Pollard Company: Col. Ulmer's Regiment US Volunteers Rank Induction: Soldier Rank Discharge: Soldier Roll Box: 166 Roll Exct: 602 Thanks, Robyn Collins

Does anyone know if there is a national cemetary in New Orleans for the men that died following the Battle of New Orleans, War of 1812? I am looking for the grave of my 3rd Great-Grandfather, Caleb Short, who was a 2nd Lt. from Tennessee that died in the spring in New Orleans following the Battle of New Orleans. Thanks for any help. Jim Short

Try this site for your search: http://www.nps.gov/jela/Chalmette%20Battlefield.htm

I would appreciate your help. The Andrew EDGEN (or EDGIN) mentioned in your e-mail is related to me. Where can I find the record you mentioned. Eldon J. Edgin 14908 Woodbriar Drive Dallas, Texas 75248-4551 Phone: (972) 991-4891 FAX: (972) 991-4893 e-mail: eedgin@sbcglobal.net ______________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Hand" <ghand@viptx.net> To: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 9:24 PM Subject: Re: Battle of New Orleans > This is quite a coinsedence. My husband's gg grandfather, Thomas > Asheralso served in Capt. James Tunnell's Co., 3 Reg't (Johnson's) E. TN > Militia. According to his obit in the Victoria (Texas) Advocate > newspaper (1885) > "he served with Andrew Jackson". I have searched for years to find some > documentation of this without any success. From his application for > pension and other sources the following also served in this company: > Harmon Thompson, Thomas Laxton, Michael Asher, David Landrum, James > Blackburn, Andrew Edgen, George Garner, John Sexton, William Sexton, and > ? Patton. It seems odd that you have the same story for your ancestors > too, from the same company. Patsy Hand > > "Phyllis J. Bauer" wrote: > > > > Thank you for the links you have provided. > > > > I know the regiments of the ancestors and their relatives who allegedly > > fought in the Battle of New Orleans. I just want to know if they really > > were involved in the Battle. > > > > My ancestors and their relatives names and regiments: > > > > HICKS, VINES, 3 REG'T (JOHNSON'S) E. TENNESSEE MILITIA, PRIVATE > > > > TUNNELL, JAMES, BROWN'S REG'T, EAST TENNESSEE VOLS., PRIVATE > > > > TUNNEL, JAMES, WILLIAMS' MTD. REG'T, E. TENNESSEE VOLS., PRIVATE > > > > TUNNELL, JAMES, 3 REG'T (JOHNSON'S) E. TENNESSEE MIL., CAPTAIN > > > > TUNNELL, LUTHER, BROWN'S REG'T, EAST TENNESSEE VOLS., PRIVATE > > > > TUNNELL, ROBERT, 2 REG'T MOUNTED GUNMEN (BROWN'S), EAST TENNESSEE VOLS., 2 > > LIEUTENANT > > > > TUNNELL, WILLIAM, 5 REG'T (BOOTH'S) EAST TENNESSEE MILITIA, LIEUTENANT (He > > was elevated to the rank of Colonel by his descendants.) > > > > WORTHINGTON, JAMES, BROWN'S REG'T, EAST TENNESSEE VOLS., PRIVATE > > > > WORTHINGTON, JAMES, WILLIAMS' MTD. REG'T, E. TENNESSEE VOLS., PRIVATE > > > > WORTHINGTON, JESSE, BROWN'S REG'T, EAST TENNESSEE VOLS., PRIVATE > > > > WORTHINGTON, ROBERT, BROWN'S REG'T, EAST TENNESSEE VOLS., PRIVATE > > > > WORTHINGTON, WILLIAM, BROWN'S REG'T, EAST TENNESSEE VOLS., PRIVATE > > > > WORTHINGTON, WILLIAM, WILLIAMS' MTD. REG'T, E. TENNESSEE VOLS., PRIVATE > > > > Thank you for any help -- > > > > PhylBee > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > ==== WARof1812 Mailing List ==== > MESSAGE HINT: Delete all the unnecessary > material before you reply or resend any > message. DELETE:taglines,empty lines,etc. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

This is quite a coinsedence. My husband's gg grandfather, Thomas Asheralso served in Capt. James Tunnell's Co., 3 Reg't (Johnson's) E. TN Militia. According to his obit in the Victoria (Texas) Advocate newspaper (1885) "he served with Andrew Jackson". I have searched for years to find some documentation of this without any success. From his application for pension and other sources the following also served in this company: Harmon Thompson, Thomas Laxton, Michael Asher, David Landrum, James Blackburn, Andrew Edgen, George Garner, John Sexton, William Sexton, and ? Patton. It seems odd that you have the same story for your ancestors too, from the same company. Patsy Hand "Phyllis J. Bauer" wrote: > > Thank you for the links you have provided. > > I know the regiments of the ancestors and their relatives who allegedly > fought in the Battle of New Orleans. I just want to know if they really > were involved in the Battle. > > My ancestors and their relatives names and regiments: > > HICKS, VINES, 3 REG'T (JOHNSON'S) E. TENNESSEE MILITIA, PRIVATE > > TUNNELL, JAMES, BROWN'S REG'T, EAST TENNESSEE VOLS., PRIVATE > > TUNNEL, JAMES, WILLIAMS' MTD. REG'T, E. TENNESSEE VOLS., PRIVATE > > TUNNELL, JAMES, 3 REG'T (JOHNSON'S) E. TENNESSEE MIL., CAPTAIN > > TUNNELL, LUTHER, BROWN'S REG'T, EAST TENNESSEE VOLS., PRIVATE > > TUNNELL, ROBERT, 2 REG'T MOUNTED GUNMEN (BROWN'S), EAST TENNESSEE VOLS., 2 > LIEUTENANT > > TUNNELL, WILLIAM, 5 REG'T (BOOTH'S) EAST TENNESSEE MILITIA, LIEUTENANT (He > was elevated to the rank of Colonel by his descendants.) > > WORTHINGTON, JAMES, BROWN'S REG'T, EAST TENNESSEE VOLS., PRIVATE > > WORTHINGTON, JAMES, WILLIAMS' MTD. REG'T, E. TENNESSEE VOLS., PRIVATE > > WORTHINGTON, JESSE, BROWN'S REG'T, EAST TENNESSEE VOLS., PRIVATE > > WORTHINGTON, ROBERT, BROWN'S REG'T, EAST TENNESSEE VOLS., PRIVATE > > WORTHINGTON, WILLIAM, BROWN'S REG'T, EAST TENNESSEE VOLS., PRIVATE > > WORTHINGTON, WILLIAM, WILLIAMS' MTD. REG'T, E. TENNESSEE VOLS., PRIVATE > > Thank you for any help -- > > PhylBee > > ----- Original Message ----- >

Would like any info Saunder's 7th Va. Militia, Bedford County Va. My Littleberry Overstreet was private during the war. He was stationed at Norfork Va. gerald preas dallas tx

Can anyone tell me where to find information regarding the 7th Regiment of NY Art'y. My 5th gr grandfather served with that unit during the war. Am also interested in any information on Col Dodge's Regiment of NY State Militia; I have an ancestor that served with them..he enlisted in NY City. Mary Sorensen Dora, AL

Thank you for the links you have provided. I know the regiments of the ancestors and their relatives who allegedly fought in the Battle of New Orleans. I just want to know if they really were involved in the Battle. My ancestors and their relatives names and regiments: HICKS, VINES, 3 REG'T (JOHNSON'S) E. TENNESSEE MILITIA, PRIVATE TUNNELL, JAMES, BROWN'S REG'T, EAST TENNESSEE VOLS., PRIVATE TUNNEL, JAMES, WILLIAMS' MTD. REG'T, E. TENNESSEE VOLS., PRIVATE TUNNELL, JAMES, 3 REG'T (JOHNSON'S) E. TENNESSEE MIL., CAPTAIN TUNNELL, LUTHER, BROWN'S REG'T, EAST TENNESSEE VOLS., PRIVATE TUNNELL, ROBERT, 2 REG'T MOUNTED GUNMEN (BROWN'S), EAST TENNESSEE VOLS., 2 LIEUTENANT TUNNELL, WILLIAM, 5 REG'T (BOOTH'S) EAST TENNESSEE MILITIA, LIEUTENANT (He was elevated to the rank of Colonel by his descendants.) WORTHINGTON, JAMES, BROWN'S REG'T, EAST TENNESSEE VOLS., PRIVATE WORTHINGTON, JAMES, WILLIAMS' MTD. REG'T, E. TENNESSEE VOLS., PRIVATE WORTHINGTON, JESSE, BROWN'S REG'T, EAST TENNESSEE VOLS., PRIVATE WORTHINGTON, ROBERT, BROWN'S REG'T, EAST TENNESSEE VOLS., PRIVATE WORTHINGTON, WILLIAM, BROWN'S REG'T, EAST TENNESSEE VOLS., PRIVATE WORTHINGTON, WILLIAM, WILLIAMS' MTD. REG'T, E. TENNESSEE VOLS., PRIVATE Thank you for any help -- PhylBee ----- Original Message ----- From: <Smileson@aol.com> To: <pjbauer16@earthlink.net> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 9:28 PM Subject: Re: Battle of New Orleans > Did your War of 1812 ancestors live in Louisiana, or from another state? > Post their names I'm sure someone can help you find the Regt. etc. > > http://www.societyofthewarof1812.org > > http://www.usdaughters1812.org > > http://www.geocities.com/~colony/colony.html

Does anyone know where I can find out the regiments that participated in the Battle of New Orleans? I have a couple of ancestors who allegedly fought at this famous battle, but knowing how descendants like to brag about their ancestors, I'd like to prove it one way or the other. Thank you. PhylBee

Sorry about that! I meant to say, of his boy hood, not, "of his boy friend" and Northern half of Tomkins County in Seneca instead of "southern half of Tomkins in Seneca. Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick" <patrick20@attbi.com> To: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 11:33 AM Subject: Re: New York Muster rolls > I'm going to take a shot at this, so here goes. FIRST; We really don't know > how accurate Zimri's memory is of his boy friend, nor how many years after > that his memory of his boyhood was recorded. Also the next sentence sounds > more like, as if someone was writting what his thoughts were, rather than > the recording of his actual words.( Father William sentence) > Maine didn't become a state until 1820, which leaves the possibility of > William Baxter being recorded in the Mass. Militia. Maine was part of Mass. > until its statehood. There is a William Baxter registered in the 1st > Regiment (Nye's) Mass. Militia Roll 13, Rollbox 589. > Now I think your interpretation of Synga County actually being Seneca > County is great. Now how about Gnore ?? If we stick Ca in place of G, we end > up with Canore. This could be Candor, which is further south down in Tioga > County. > A lot of areas I have seen as I have searched the old records were known by > the local people for a name given for the area. . The 7.5 Minute Quadrangle > maps section covering this area covers from Seneca & Onondaga south all the > way to the Pennsylvania border, including Tioga, Chemung, Tomkins Couties > and parts of Cortland, and Schuyler Counties. This mapping process began I > think in 1796, but I'm not sure what the name is for this area, it could be > Seneca, but either way the southern half of Tomkins County used to be in > Seneca County. This puts Candor at this stage about 8 miles or less from > being in Seneca County at the time William was there. William may have gone > there because he had relatives, as the areas somewhere around there was > claimed by Mass , plus a number of the Rev. war soldiers had sold off their > land grants up towards Seneca and moved down into the Tomkins & Tioga areas. > I would also put Seneca, and Candor in front of a person that speaks > Gaelic, or Welsh, or has a pronounced Irish or Scottish accent. Zimri may > not have had a speech impediment. > Just my take on things, hope it helps. > Patrick > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike and Cynthia Baxter" <Baxter_2@msn.com> > To: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 8:54 AM > Subject: New York Muster rolls > > > > I'm hoping to locate the military records for William Baxter. The > information provided is from his son, Zimri Baxter. As of yet I have not > been able to locate any mention of my William Baxter in any list from the > War of 1812. The family originated from Vassalborough, Kennebec, Maine and > according to Zimri's oratation, they moved to a mysterious New York county. > I have been trying to identify what Zimri Baxter was referring to (see bold, > underlined text). Other records where he dictated the information are as > confusing, but have been translated. It is thought that he had a speech > impediment. I'm on the west coast and don't have a clue as to what the city > and county can be, other than perhaps "Synga" means Seneca? What the heck, > if anybody wants to give it a shot. > > From an enclosure of a letter written in 1959 by Hazel Lovell > Walker..."History of Zimri Harfford Baxter According to Dates and Scraps" > > ..."When I was young my parents moved to Gnore, Synga County, New York. > Father William enlisted in the United States Army in a war with England in > 1814 and in 1815 he died of Typhoid Fever. Two years after father died, > mother with her five children (I being the oldest) moved back to Maine in > 1817 where I lived with my Uncle John Roberson till I was of age, then I > married Eunice Sevy who was born March 1, 1811 in Cornish York County, > Maine. We were married May the 2, 1832 in Melton, Maine. Her father, Thomas > Sevy was born in Scorboro, Maine in 1749 and died in 1819. His wife (at that > time) was Mary Fly. She was born 1770 and died in 1847 in Maine." > > Hopefully, this will ring enough of a bell so that I can move forward > again! > > Thanks! Cynthia Baxter > > > > > > ==== WARof1812 Mailing List ==== > > ADDRESS MESSAGES TO: > > WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== WARof1812 Mailing List ==== > ADDRESS MESSAGES TO: > WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I'm going to take a shot at this, so here goes. FIRST; We really don't know how accurate Zimri's memory is of his boy friend, nor how many years after that his memory of his boyhood was recorded. Also the next sentence sounds more like, as if someone was writting what his thoughts were, rather than the recording of his actual words.( Father William sentence) Maine didn't become a state until 1820, which leaves the possibility of William Baxter being recorded in the Mass. Militia. Maine was part of Mass. until its statehood. There is a William Baxter registered in the 1st Regiment (Nye's) Mass. Militia Roll 13, Rollbox 589. Now I think your interpretation of Synga County actually being Seneca County is great. Now how about Gnore ?? If we stick Ca in place of G, we end up with Canore. This could be Candor, which is further south down in Tioga County. A lot of areas I have seen as I have searched the old records were known by the local people for a name given for the area. . The 7.5 Minute Quadrangle maps section covering this area covers from Seneca & Onondaga south all the way to the Pennsylvania border, including Tioga, Chemung, Tomkins Couties and parts of Cortland, and Schuyler Counties. This mapping process began I think in 1796, but I'm not sure what the name is for this area, it could be Seneca, but either way the southern half of Tomkins County used to be in Seneca County. This puts Candor at this stage about 8 miles or less from being in Seneca County at the time William was there. William may have gone there because he had relatives, as the areas somewhere around there was claimed by Mass , plus a number of the Rev. war soldiers had sold off their land grants up towards Seneca and moved down into the Tomkins & Tioga areas. I would also put Seneca, and Candor in front of a person that speaks Gaelic, or Welsh, or has a pronounced Irish or Scottish accent. Zimri may not have had a speech impediment. Just my take on things, hope it helps. Patrick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike and Cynthia Baxter" <Baxter_2@msn.com> To: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 8:54 AM Subject: New York Muster rolls > I'm hoping to locate the military records for William Baxter. The information provided is from his son, Zimri Baxter. As of yet I have not been able to locate any mention of my William Baxter in any list from the War of 1812. The family originated from Vassalborough, Kennebec, Maine and according to Zimri's oratation, they moved to a mysterious New York county. I have been trying to identify what Zimri Baxter was referring to (see bold, underlined text). Other records where he dictated the information are as confusing, but have been translated. It is thought that he had a speech impediment. I'm on the west coast and don't have a clue as to what the city and county can be, other than perhaps "Synga" means Seneca? What the heck, if anybody wants to give it a shot. > From an enclosure of a letter written in 1959 by Hazel Lovell Walker..."History of Zimri Harfford Baxter According to Dates and Scraps" > ..."When I was young my parents moved to Gnore, Synga County, New York. Father William enlisted in the United States Army in a war with England in 1814 and in 1815 he died of Typhoid Fever. Two years after father died, mother with her five children (I being the oldest) moved back to Maine in 1817 where I lived with my Uncle John Roberson till I was of age, then I married Eunice Sevy who was born March 1, 1811 in Cornish York County, Maine. We were married May the 2, 1832 in Melton, Maine. Her father, Thomas Sevy was born in Scorboro, Maine in 1749 and died in 1819. His wife (at that time) was Mary Fly. She was born 1770 and died in 1847 in Maine." > Hopefully, this will ring enough of a bell so that I can move forward again! > Thanks! Cynthia Baxter > > > ==== WARof1812 Mailing List ==== > ADDRESS MESSAGES TO: > WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >