Ginny, I can't tell you much on the draft in Virginia, but the draft was handled differently for each area. The federal government would provide the States with their required quota and the Governors would put out the call and the Towns were required to come up with the troops. If they achieved their quota through volunteers so be it and if not into effect went the draft. Some towns even paid cash bounties. It might help to check a County and Town history to see what records of there method survived. The age for the draft was the same as that for the Militia service requirements, 16 to 60 years of age. There were men older that served and those younger than 16, but as the community would view there requirement to respond it would be just that, 16 to 60. Hopefully someone out there has more detail to provide. Patrick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ginny and Ike" <ebeachbums@worldnet.att.net> To: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:26 PM Subject: Draft for the War of 1812 > My relative was drafted into service in the War of 1812 in May of 1814 at > Liberty, Bedford, VA. > > Does anyone know how the draft worked in this war? > > Would my relative have been a certain age to be drafted? > > Ginny > > > ==== WARof1812 Mailing List ==== > NEW WAR OF 1812 LIST MEMBERS > are encouraged to post your > queries to our list anytime. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

My relative was drafted into service in the War of 1812 in May of 1814 at Liberty, Bedford, VA. Does anyone know how the draft worked in this war? Would my relative have been a certain age to be drafted? Ginny

Dear Patrick. Your response certainly reflects W.T. Purkiser's version of thanksgiving! Thanks for taking the time to look this information up. Hopefully, the searchers that you referred to are still available and we can put our heads together to learn more! Thanks for giving me more to be thankful for on Thanksgiving! Eugenia ----- Original Message ----- From: " Patrick" <Patrick20@comcast.net> To: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 9:32 AM Subject: Re: WAR OF 1812/ FREEMAN'S SQUADRON CAVALRY GA MILITIA/ALSTON > Eugenia, Your posting indicates you are aware of John Alston's file. If you > will go to the 1812 board, under the general, board, you will find several > postings from searchers looking for information on Freeman's squadron. One two and > another three years old. One states that his ancestor was mustered out at > Millegeville (which is in Baldwin County Ga.) another states that his > ancestor served in war of 1812, and he was from Washington County. The > Captains of this Squadron were from numerous Counties; Jefferson, Hancock, > Washington, Pulaski, Indian lands, etc. I would start off with their > mustering out location in Baldwin County, which has a County History, that > might have some information in it. > Patrick > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eugenia Hobday" <eugenia@nexon.com.au> > To: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 8:44 AM > Subject: Re: WAR OF 1812/ FREEMAN'S SQUADRON CAVALRY GA MILITIA/ALSTON > > > > Thanks to all who have shared information re JOHN ALSTON. > > W.T. Purkiser said: "Not what we say about our blessings, but how we > share them, is the true measure of our thanksgiving." > > > > I do hope that someone has information on FREEMAN'S SQUADRON CAVALRY GA > MILITIA. Such as what county it was organized in and if they fought in the > WAR OF 1812. Thanks! > > > > Happy Thanksgiving! > > Eugenia > > Researching Alstons in Elbert, Montgomery, Monroe and Sumter Counties, GA.

Thanks to all who have shared information re JOHN ALSTON. W.T. Purkiser said: "Not what we say about our blessings, but how we share them, is the true measure of our thanksgiving." I do hope that someone has information on FREEMAN'S SQUADRON CAVALRY GA MILITIA. Such as what county it was organized in and if they fought in the WAR OF 1812. Thanks! Happy Thanksgiving! Eugenia Researching Alstons in Elbert, Montgomery, Monroe and Sumter Counties, GA.

Eugenia, Your posting indicates you are aware of John Alston's file. If you will go to the 1812 board, under the general, board, you will find several postings from searchers looking for information on Freeman's squadron. One two and another three years old. One states that his ancestor was mustered out at Millegeville (which is in Baldwin County Ga.) another states that his ancestor served in war of 1812, and he was from Washington County. The Captains of this Squadron were from numerous Counties; Jefferson, Hancock, Washington, Pulaski, Indian lands, etc. I would start off with their mustering out location in Baldwin County, which has a County History, that might have some information in it. Patrick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eugenia Hobday" <eugenia@nexon.com.au> To: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 8:44 AM Subject: Re: WAR OF 1812/ FREEMAN'S SQUADRON CAVALRY GA MILITIA/ALSTON > Thanks to all who have shared information re JOHN ALSTON. > W.T. Purkiser said: "Not what we say about our blessings, but how we share them, is the true measure of our thanksgiving." > > I do hope that someone has information on FREEMAN'S SQUADRON CAVALRY GA MILITIA. Such as what county it was organized in and if they fought in the WAR OF 1812. Thanks! > > Happy Thanksgiving! > Eugenia > Researching Alstons in Elbert, Montgomery, Monroe and Sumter Counties, GA. > > > ==== WARof1812 Mailing List ==== > WAR of 1812 LIST ADMINISTRATOR: > ....<commander@inetone.net>.... > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello, I am new to this group and appreciate the opportunity to network. I am seeking information on the possible involvement of JOHN ALSTON, son of JAMES and GRIZELLE (GILLEY) ALSTON, (born May 17th, 1790, in Orange Co, North Carolina), in the WAR OF 1812. Records show that in October, 1810, John was in Elbert Co., GA where he married his cousin, CHARITY ALSTON. daughter of J. MINOR TATE and NANCY ANN ALSTON. USGenWeb Archives show that a JOHN ALSTON was on the 1812 Roster of FREEMAN'S SQUADRON CALVARY GA MILITIA as a PRIVATE. Can anyone please assist me in providing any information that shows that John Alston or Freeman's Squadron Calvary participated in the War of 1812? Also, I would welcome some background information on FREEMAN'S SQUADRON CALVARY GA MILITIA and their activities. Any information or thoughts on this will be greatly appreciated!! Eugenia

Hi Judy, If you go to this MACOMB family website and scroll to the bottom of the page you will find alot of information transcribed on the Battle of Plattsburgh. No guarantee that you'll find your Coolidge, but it may reveal the units that were present. http://mlloyd.org/gen/macomb/photoalb.htm Good Luck Murray McCombs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> X-Message: #4 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:09:47 -0500 From: "judyh" <judyh@dnet.net> To: WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <002b01c3aac9$ba59c6a0$b8ee5a3f@oemcomputer> Subject: Battle of Plattsburgh/COOLIDGE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am seeking information re: the Battle of Plattsburgh such as Units involved and musters of those units. Any clues or information will be appreciated. OBADIAH COOLIDGE is the soldier I am interested in. Thank you. Kindest reagraads. Judy Hughes judyh@dnet.net <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

I am seeking information re: the Battle of Plattsburgh such as Units involved and musters of those units. Any clues or information will be appreciated. OBADIAH COOLIDGE is the soldier I am interested in. Thank you. Kindest reagraads. Judy Hughes judyh@dnet.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <WARof1812-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <WARof1812-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 7:02 PM Subject: WARof1812-D Digest V03 #96

What state did the Horseshoe Bend battle occur? Did not see it mentioned. Sandy in Calif. - ----- Original Message ----- From: " Patrick" <Patrick20@comcast.net> To: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 10:02 AM Subject: Re: Unit History > Dennis, Margy's answer covered a lot of good ground. Captain Andrew Hamilton > served under Lt. Colonel Reuben Nash and Nash's Regiment did serve in the > Creek War. > In a number of write ups on Jackson's troops that fought in the "Tohopeka" > or Horseshoe Bend battle, numerous references are made to Jackson's Cherokee > troops, but I have found no comment as to where they were from. The > Cherokee's were from North & South Carolina, Tennessee, (where Jackson's > troops were from), North Georgia, and Northern Alabama. The comments also > made about this battle is that the majority of troops were from Tennessee > and Georgia, which neither proves or disproves Andrew Hamilton's > involvement. Looks like you may have some library work ahead of you, unless > someone out there has an answer or has already done some heavy CMSR and > Pension work. > Patrick > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dennis Dover" <ddover1793@earthlink.net> > To: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 9:24 PM > Subject: Unit History > > > > Several questions about a unit that are said to be related. > > > > 1. Where can I find some history on Captain Andrew Hamilton's Militia, SC > > (old Pendleton)? > > > > 2. Did this unit serve at the Battle of Horseshoe Bend against the Creeks? > > > > 3. Was this unit a Cherokee unit? > > > > Appreciate your help. > > > > > > > > ==== WARof1812 Mailing List ==== > > NEW WAR OF 1812 LIST MEMBERS > > are encouraged to post your > > queries to our list anytime. > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== WARof1812 Mailing List ==== > UNSUBSCRIPTION DIRECTIONS > Warof1812-L-request@rootsweb.com UNSUBSCRIBE [in body of message] > Warof1812-D-request@rootsweb.com UNSUBSCRIBE [in body of message] > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Tallapoosa County, Alabama -----Original Message----- From: Sandy & Jerry Childs [mailto:jschilds@pacbell.net] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 8:58 PM To: WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Unit History What state did the Horseshoe Bend battle occur? Did not see it mentioned. Sandy in Calif.

Margy & Patrick, thank you. You confirm something I found later. The Thomas Cross that I am looking for served under both Andrew Hamilton and Nash. It's a timing thing that is also a surprise because Thomas was discharged from Hamilton's company in Pendleton five months after the start of the Horseshoe Bend conflict and joined Hamilton something like three months earlier. Dennis PS No libraries where I am. -----Original Message----- From: Patrick [mailto:Patrick20@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 10:02 AM To: Dennis Dover; WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Unit History Dennis, Margy's answer covered a lot of good ground. Captain Andrew Hamilton served under Lt. Colonel Reuben Nash and Nash's Regiment did serve in the Creek War. In a number of write ups on Jackson's troops that fought in the "Tohopeka" or Horseshoe Bend battle, numerous references are made to Jackson's Cherokee troops, but I have found no comment as to where they were from. The Cherokee's were from North & South Carolina, Tennessee, (where Jackson's troops were from), North Georgia, and Northern Alabama. The comments also made about this battle is that the majority of troops were from Tennessee and Georgia, which neither proves or disproves Andrew Hamilton's involvement. Looks like you may have some library work ahead of you, unless someone out there has an answer or has already done some heavy CMSR and Pension work. Patrick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Dover" <ddover1793@earthlink.net> To: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 9:24 PM Subject: Unit History > Several questions about a unit that are said to be related. > > 1. Where can I find some history on Captain Andrew Hamilton's Militia, SC > (old Pendleton)? > > 2. Did this unit serve at the Battle of Horseshoe Bend against the Creeks? > > 3. Was this unit a Cherokee unit? > > Appreciate your help. > > > > ==== WARof1812 Mailing List ==== > NEW WAR OF 1812 LIST MEMBERS > are encouraged to post your > queries to our list anytime. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Dennis, Margy's answer covered a lot of good ground. Captain Andrew Hamilton served under Lt. Colonel Reuben Nash and Nash's Regiment did serve in the Creek War. In a number of write ups on Jackson's troops that fought in the "Tohopeka" or Horseshoe Bend battle, numerous references are made to Jackson's Cherokee troops, but I have found no comment as to where they were from. The Cherokee's were from North & South Carolina, Tennessee, (where Jackson's troops were from), North Georgia, and Northern Alabama. The comments also made about this battle is that the majority of troops were from Tennessee and Georgia, which neither proves or disproves Andrew Hamilton's involvement. Looks like you may have some library work ahead of you, unless someone out there has an answer or has already done some heavy CMSR and Pension work. Patrick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Dover" <ddover1793@earthlink.net> To: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 9:24 PM Subject: Unit History > Several questions about a unit that are said to be related. > > 1. Where can I find some history on Captain Andrew Hamilton's Militia, SC > (old Pendleton)? > > 2. Did this unit serve at the Battle of Horseshoe Bend against the Creeks? > > 3. Was this unit a Cherokee unit? > > Appreciate your help. > > > > ==== WARof1812 Mailing List ==== > NEW WAR OF 1812 LIST MEMBERS > are encouraged to post your > queries to our list anytime. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/3837/sc_military_1812.html This has online rosters etc on SC 1812 history. It's a very good site. However searching here and at google I couldn't find anything on Hamilton's Militia. Also below some sites on the battle. margy ******************************************* http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h1128.html http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngiles/records/batl1812.htm March, 1814, General Andrew Jackson mobilized the Tennessee Militia, made up of Volunteers from th East and West Tennessee Militia and the Thirty-Ninth U.S. Infantry for a full-scale campaign against the Red Sticks. General Jackson's army totaled about 3,000 men. Jackson's army left Fort Williams on the Coosa River (Mississippi Territory) and marched 52 miles through the forest in three days. They made camp six miles north of Horseshoe Bend. The Red Stick's had built a barricade on the river, which eventually trapped them once Jackson's soldiers surrounded them. Over 800 Red Sticks died as a result of the battle. General Jackson's dead and wounded were taken back to Fort Williams. The following is a listing of the soldiers who were buried at Fort Williams. *************************** http://www.mohicanpress.com/messageboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=189 Battle of Horseshoe Bend, it is the place where, on March 27, 1814, about 3,000 Tennessee frontier troops and U.S. regulars under the command of Andrew Jackson defeated about 1,000 Upper Creek Indians led by Chief Menawa. This ended the Creek Indian War and broke the tribe's power in the southeastern United States. Creek lands comprising three-fifths of the present State of Alabama and one-fifth of Georgia were added to the United States and opened for white settlement. For Andrew Jackson, the victory at Horseshoe Bend was the first step on the road to national fame and the White House. Nine months later, on January 8, 1815, he defeated the British in the Battle of New Orleans ending the War of 1812. *************************************** > Several questions about a unit that are said to be related. > > 1. Where can I find some history on Captain Andrew Hamilton's Militia, SC > (old Pendleton)? > > 2. Did this unit serve at the Battle of Horseshoe Bend against the Creeks? > > 3. Was this unit a Cherokee unit? > > Appreciate your help.

Several questions about a unit that are said to be related. 1. Where can I find some history on Captain Andrew Hamilton's Militia, SC (old Pendleton)? 2. Did this unit serve at the Battle of Horseshoe Bend against the Creeks? 3. Was this unit a Cherokee unit? Appreciate your help.

Calvin Hawkins served in Colonel Isaac Belknap's 1st Regiment New York Militia. A number of the Captains in this Regiment were from the Orange County NY area. You will want to see if any record of his alleged desertion exists in his CMSR records in the National Archives, as I doubt this type record would be listed in a County History. His records are in Roll Box 95- record # 258. Patrick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bonnie Pehrson" <bpehrson@tds.net> To: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 4:08 PM Subject: Lookup for Calvin Hawkins I am looking for information about Calvin Hawkins. Rumor has it he enlisted and deserted. Can anyone tell me if this is true or where to look? He was residing in New York at the time. Thanks

Amy, Abraham Hesser was a Corporal in Lieut. Colonel Jeremiah Shappell's 1st Regiment Pennsylvania Militia. He apparently has two CMSR files in the Archives; Abraham Hesser, roll box 98 - roll record 1102; Abram Hesser, 98 -1103. The Captains in this Regiment were; Thomas Buchanan, Jonathon Jones, JacobMarshall, George Marx, John Mauger, George Ritter, Henry Willoz(x?) George Ziebler. If you locate where Col. Shappell and these Captains are from in Penn., you will likely find further history on this Regiment and its participants, in the County history, or at the genealogical society. In order to know what part your ancestor may have played you should obtain his CMSR files, for further information. Patrick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amy" <wullen@cfl.rr.com> To: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: PA & Shappell Hi, My ancestor Abraham Hesser is listed as participating in the War of 1812 under a Shappell's unit. He was from Pennsylvania. Any ideas how I would go about finding information on this unit & where they were, what they did, etc. I've tried to search this Shappell name in relation to the war, but nothing comes up. Any advice or suggestion is most appreciated. Thank you for your time Amy DeMeo

I am looking for information about Calvin Hawkins. Rumor has it he enlisted and deserted. Can anyone tell me if this is true or where to look? He was residing in New York at the time. Thanks Bonnie

Hi, My ancestor Abraham Hesser is listed as participating in the War of 1812 under a Shappell's unit. He was from Pennsylvania. Any ideas how I would go about finding information on this unit & where they were, what they did, etc. I've tried to search this Shappell name in relation to the war, but nothing comes up. Any advice or suggestion is most appreciated. Thank you for your time Amy DeMeo People take different roads seeking fulfillment and happiness. Just because they're not on your road, doesn't mean they've gotten lost." --- H. Jackson Brown

Ms. Seeger recommends "The War of 1812 -- A Forgotten Conflict", and I'd like to add "Amateurs, To Arms! -- A Military History of the War of 1812" by John R. Elting, Da Capo Press, 1995 (© 1991 by John R. Elting), available at bargain book places country-wide. As a retired Colonel of today's professional army, Elting provides an unflinching appraisal of our country's founder's notion of a "citizen militia" in its first real test. He does this not by editorializing, but simply by recounting the facts of most all the campaigns and battles from a professional's point of view. While my anscestor's unit was a poorly documented muster of militia in the Northwest Territories, I have found Elting's chronicle useful in focusing secondary research into my anscestor's probable activities, not to mention the weather, mud and terrain, the social, political and "social ethos" surrounding his service.

Since questions came through regarding the Treaty of Ghent, I've been reminded that someone asked some time ago about a recommended history of the War of 1812, so I recommend the following one which I purchased a few years ago at the site of the Battle of New Orleans, but you may find it at a library or through Amazon: "The War of 1812 -- A Forgotten Conflict", Hickey, Donald R., 1989, University of Illinois Press I found Mr. Hickey's writing concise but thorough so that even I, certainly not claiming to be an expert, found it highly informative and entertaining. He tells not only of the battles but of the political situation in our country both leading up to and in the aftermath as well. His notes for sources are generous and he even includes a list of "Location and Publisher Abbreviations", nowadays usually called "acronyms", which I found extremely helpful in these days of there being so much use of them in articles on the assumption that everyone knows what they mean, and you might wish to mark that page 323 before you begin reading at the beginning. Good reading!