I have several ancestors who fought in the Civil War, and at least one that fought in the Revolutionary war. I have managed to document them, and now am interested in perhaps joining the War of 1812 Society. I probably have at least one who is eligible, as all my family is spread out between Mobile Al and Houma, La. and were in that location back in those days. Does the society have a list of persons involved in that fracas, as the DAR does with it's patriots? If so, how do I obtain one? Regards, George George B. Carmichael

Lieutenant Colonel Robert Pogue was at Fort Defiance in Ohio under Brigadier General James Winchester in the Fall of 1812. No mention of the unit he was commanding at the time. The rosters for Kentucky say he was in command of Pogue's Regiment from August 27, 1812 to September 26, 1812; there was a Robert Pogue at the Battle of the Thames. Under Pogue, Belt was Captain of the 2nd Company. Captain Joseph C. Belt was also in command of the 4th Company of the 28th Regiment United States Infantry which was formed January 29, 1813. Members of the 28th Infantry saw action on Perry's ships at the Battle of Lake Erie in August 1813; the regiment was at Longwood and Sturgeon's Creek in Canada. You might try researching Captain Belt - where he went, so went his unit. Scott Baker -----Original Message----- From: Doug Gordon [mailto:doug@wdgordon.com] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 8:47 AM To: WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WARof1812] Finding unit locations Is there a source on the web (or otherwise) for determining where particular units were stationed during the war, and possibly what action they might have seen? I have the payroll records for my g-g-g-grandfather from Fleming Co., KY, indicating that he was with Capt. Joseph C. Belt's Co. of Infantry, Pogue's 4th Regiment Kentucky Volunteer Militia in 1812-13. One story about him just says that he was in "northern Ohio", but that is about all that I have found. Is there any way to find more details about the nature of his service? Doug Gordon ==== WARof1812 Mailing List ==== NEW WAR OF 1812 LIST MEMBERS are encouraged to post your queries to our list anytime. ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Is there a source on the web (or otherwise) for determining where particular units were stationed during the war, and possibly what action they might have seen? I have the payroll records for my g-g-g-grandfather from Fleming Co., KY, indicating that he was with Capt. Joseph C. Belt's Co. of Infantry, Pogue's 4th Regiment Kentucky Volunteer Militia in 1812-13. One story about him just says that he was in "northern Ohio", but that is about all that I have found. Is there any way to find more details about the nature of his service? Doug Gordon

Does anyone have information about the men who served in the War of 1812 from Virginia? I am trying to find out something about Richard Tucker who was in this war. He was in either Prince George County Va or possibly Botetourt or Greenbrier. So far I do not know where to look on the web or I have not found anything on the sites I have looked at. Thanks Pat

Hi, This is my first time posting to this list and I hope my question isn't too dumb? I believe an ancestor of mine John McDaniel, was in the 145h infantry of Capt. Rueben Gilder's Co. My question what State would he have served from? Thank you or your time and attention. Joyce McDaniel Hennessy

Name:   AARON COLLINS Company:   3 COMPANY (SHORT'S) DELAWARE. Rank - Induction:   PRIVATE Rank - Discharge:   PRIVATE Roll Box:   43 Roll Exct:   602 Possible his first name misspelled Elzey Name:   ELREY COLLINS Company:   COMEGY'S DETACHMENT, DELAWARE MILITIA. Rank - Induction:   PRIVATE Rank - Discharge:   PRIVATE Roll Box:   43 Roll Exct:   602 =============== What Can I Find in the War of 1812 Service Records When the United States declared war on Great Britain in 1812, Congress authorized the President to accept and organize volunteers in order to win the war. This database is a listing of men mustered into the armed forces between 1812 and 1815. Taken from records in the National Archives, each record includes the soldier's name, company, rank at time of induction, rank at time of discharge, and other helpful information. It provides the names of nearly 600,000 men. These records were taken from Record Group 94 Records of the Adjutant General's Office, microfilm publication M602, a total of 234 rolls of film. Compiled Military Service Records (CMSR) Each volunteer soldier has one Compiled Military Service Record (CMSR) for each regiment in which he served. The CMSR contains basic information about the soldier's military career, and it is the first source the researcher should consult. The CMSR is an envelope (a jacket) containing one or more cards. These cards typically indicate that the soldier was present or absent during a certain period of time. Other cards may indicate the date of enlistment and discharge, amount of bounty paid him, and other information such as wounds received during battle or hospitalization for injury or illness. The soldier's place of birth may be indicated; if foreign born, only the country of birth is stated. The CMSR may contain an internal jacket for so-called "personal papers" of various kinds. These may include a copy of the soldier's enlistment paper, papers relating to his capture and release as a prisoner of war, or a statement that he had no personal property with him when he died. Note, however, that the CMSR rarely indicates battles in which a soldier fought; that information must be derived from other sources. A CMSR is as complete as the surviving records of an individual soldier or his unit. The War Department compiled the CMSRs from the original muster rolls and other records some years after the war to permit more rapid and efficient checking of military and medical records in connection with claims for pensions and other veterans' benefits. The abstracts were so carefully prepared that it is rarely necessary to consult the original muster rolls and other records from which they were made. When the War Department created CMSRs at the turn of the century, information from company muster rolls, regimental returns, descriptive books, hospital rolls, and other records was copied verbatim onto cards. A separate card was prepared each time an individual name appeared on a document. These cards were all numbered on the back, and these numbers were entered onto the outside jacket containing the cards. The numbers on the jacket correspond with the numbers on the cards within the jacket. These numbers were used by the War Department only for control purposes while the CMSRs were being created; the numbers do not refer to other records regarding a veteran nor are they useful for reference purposes today. Further information about each soldiers' military service is available on the original records, which should be consulted. Use the information found in this database to locate your ancestors among those records. Information found in this database may also be used to lead you to other records, including other military records (i.e. bounty-land records, pension records, prisoner-of-war records, burial records, etc.). This database is available exclusively on AncestryViewTM CD-ROM. Get instant, unlimited, anytime access; added search flexibility; personalization and more--when you order this database on CD-ROM . Buy now on AncestryView(TM) CD-ROM. Source Information: Direct Data Capture, comp. War of 1812 Service Records. [database on-line] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 1999-. Original data: National Archives and Records Administration. Index to the Compiled Military Service Records for the Volunteer Soldiers Who Served During the War of 1812 M602, 234 rolls. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration. =======================

War of 1812 RootsWeb Is there anyone who can help me with the below listed? George Allen Adkins (AGBI) COLLINS Elzey Birth Date: 178? Birth Place: Delaware, Volume: 32 Page Number: 337 Biographical Info: War 1812 Reference: {813}:415, 537, 607, 631 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- COLLINS, Aaron Birth Date: 178? Birth Place: Delaware, Volume: 32 Page Number: 305 Biographical Info: War 1810 Reference: {813}:396

I have a John CURRY who allegedly served in the Mississippi Militia. I am advised that this John Curry received his last pension payment through the New Orleans Agency on or about June 11, 1879, Certificate No. SC 18378. John Curry died Aug. 28, 1879, and is buried in old Sardis Cemetery in Choctaw County, Alabama. I am aware that pension files for veterans of the War of 1812 can be ordered through the National Archives. I am curious, however, as to whether there are any online resources from which these pension files can be discussed and ordered? Thanks, David

The book "Roster of Ohio Soldiers in War of 1812" , Adjutant General of Ohio, 1916, has three men with the name Thomas Adams: Thomas Adams - Private, Captain Thomas Latta's Company, (Note says probably from Jefferson County), September 15, 1812 - March 21, 1813. 1st Regiment Ohio Militia. Thomas Adams - Private, Captain George Gibson's Company, (Note says county unknown), July 28, 1813 - September 6, 1813 and August 23, 1814 - January 11, 1815. 1st Regiment Ohio Militia. Thomas Adams - Private, Lieutenant Robert Harvey's Company, (Note says probably from Ross County), July 13, 1813 - August 17, 1813. 2nd Regiment Ohio Militia. According to my map, Ross County borders Highland County on the east. Jefferson County is on the Ohio River north of Steubenville. The one from Lt. Harvey's Company of the 2nd Regiment may be him, of course he may not be. The first two could be the same man, several were in more than one regiment and the dates do not overlap. Good luck Scott Baker -----Original Message----- From: Caddygrl92@aol.com [mailto:Caddygrl92@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 4:31 PM To: WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WARof1812] Regiment Help Needed When trying to get a possible ancestor's War of 1812 record from NARA, I received a response which gave me two choices. His name was Thomas Adams, born about 1771 in DE, but served in OH. One possible record said: 1st Reg. Andrew's Ohio Mil. The other: 2nd Reg. Willetts Ohio Mil. He was living in Highland Co., OH when he served. Any suggestions? Shari in Ohio ==== WARof1812 Mailing List ==== This WAR of 1812 List is sponsored by ROOTSWEB Let them know how much you appreciate our list by visiting them at: http://www.rootsweb.com ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

When trying to get a possible ancestor's War of 1812 record from NARA, I received a response which gave me two choices. His name was Thomas Adams, born about 1771 in DE, but served in OH. One possible record said: 1st Reg. Andrew's Ohio Mil. The other: 2nd Reg. Willetts Ohio Mil. He was living in Highland Co., OH when he served. Any suggestions? Shari in Ohio

I am looking for information regarding his troops etc. My understanding is he served at the White House? Any help with this? Janean

To all of you who have so graciously responded to my request for help. a big Thank you. I appreciate you all taking the time to search and for sending advice. I and my fellow researchers are busy using all those great tips and web sites. You are a wonderful group and it's been a pleasure to meet you... Karen Howe (Ky.)

Go to your search engine [I use Google]. Put this in "capt. jones griffin". Try it with the " then try it without. You will see all sort of links that may help you. Also do the same thing with war of 1812 tn muster rolls. Do not use the ". Patsy Hand ----- Original Message ----- From: "maamawkaren ~Karen~" <maamawkaren@webtv.net> To: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 2:39 PM Subject: [WARof1812] How can I find a Muster Roll for the following Private William HOWE > > Hello, > I'm new to the list so forgive me if I am making a mistake in my > request. > > I am doing Genealogy Research for William HOWE born abt. 1780-1790 NC. > I have verified William HOWE found on the 1830 Census of Benton Co. tn. > as my husband's gggrandfather. William is our brick wall. He has a > land grant in TN. I have only found an occupancy deed in Benton Co. Tn. > fellow researchers and I believe his property in Tn. was given for > Military service. another researcher has found : > > a William HOWE, private under Capt Jones Griffin, Col. S Bunch, East > Tennessee > Drafted Militia > > How could I find a Muster Roll ? > > Can I find a military record for this William Howe without having to go > through the national archives and paying the 37.00 fee ? I don't mind > paying the fee if this is Our William Howe.. I have never researched > any military records so any help or advice you can give would be greatly > appreciated.. > thank you for your time, > Karen Howe > > > > > > > ==== WARof1812 Mailing List ==== > NEW WAR OF 1812 LIST MEMBERS > are encouraged to post your > queries to our list anytime. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

In Pennsylvania I was able to find a muster roll for my ancestor at the State Archives. You may be able to check the Tennessee or North Carolina State Archives for the same. I requested Bounty Land Application papers from the National Archives, I don't think it costs as much as military records, and it may help verify what regiment he was in and where he was at time of enlistment. Marcia Fronk ----- Original Message ----- From: "maamawkaren ~Karen~" <maamawkaren@webtv.net> To: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 3:39 PM Subject: [WARof1812] How can I find a Muster Roll for the following Private William HOWE > > Hello, > I'm new to the list so forgive me if I am making a mistake in my > request. > > I am doing Genealogy Research for William HOWE born abt. 1780-1790 NC. > I have verified William HOWE found on the 1830 Census of Benton Co. tn. > as my husband's gggrandfather. William is our brick wall. He has a > land grant in TN. I have only found an occupancy deed in Benton Co. Tn. > fellow researchers and I believe his property in Tn. was given for > Military service. another researcher has found : > > a William HOWE, private under Capt Jones Griffin, Col. S Bunch, East > Tennessee > Drafted Militia > > How could I find a Muster Roll ? > > Can I find a military record for this William Howe without having to go > through the national archives and paying the 37.00 fee ? I don't mind > paying the fee if this is Our William Howe.. I have never researched > any military records so any help or advice you can give would be greatly > appreciated.. > thank you for your time, > Karen Howe > > > > > > > ==== WARof1812 Mailing List ==== > NEW WAR OF 1812 LIST MEMBERS > are encouraged to post your > queries to our list anytime. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Hello, I'm new to the list so forgive me if I am making a mistake in my request. I am doing Genealogy Research for William HOWE born abt. 1780-1790 NC. I have verified William HOWE found on the 1830 Census of Benton Co. tn. as my husband's gggrandfather. William is our brick wall. He has a land grant in TN. I have only found an occupancy deed in Benton Co. Tn. fellow researchers and I believe his property in Tn. was given for Military service. another researcher has found : a William HOWE, private under Capt Jones Griffin, Col. S  Bunch, East Tennessee       Drafted Militia How could I find a Muster Roll ? Can I find a military record for this William Howe without having to go through the national archives and paying the 37.00 fee ? I don't mind paying the fee if this is Our William Howe.. I have never researched any military records so any help or advice you can give would be greatly appreciated.. thank you for your time, Karen Howe

2) 8 WAR OF 1812 MEDALS (jpegs to follow) 2/2 1) MGS Chateauguay Bar - W. Arosin, Warrior VF 2) MGS Chateauguay Bar - W. Bercy, Captain, Canadian Militia EF 3) MGS Fort Detroit Bar - H. Metcalfe, Captain, Canadian Militia EF 4) MGS Chateauguay & Crysler's Farm (2 Bars) - Lazar Sowenhese, Warrior* 5) NGS Boat Service 14 December 1814 Bar - James Holder, EF 6) CGS Fenian Raid 1866 - Pte. W.K.H. Hambly 3rd, V.V.R. EF 7) CGS Fenian Raid 1866 - Tr. A.J. Davis G.G.B.G. EF 8) CGS Fenian Raid 1870 - Pte. J. Ferris G.T.R.R. MGS - Military General Service Medals depict the portrait of a young Queen Victoria on one side with the legend "VICTORIA REGINA" and the date 1848; the other side shows a scene of the young Queen, robed and crowned, standing on a dais while placing a laurel on the head of the Duke of Wellington, who kneels before her. The legend reads "TO THE BRITISH ARMY" and the dates 1793-1814. They have red and blue striped ribbons. Designed by William Wyon. NGS - Naval General Service Medals also depict the portrait of a young Queen Victoria on one side with the legend "VICTORIA REGINA" and the date 1848; the other side shows Britannia with her trident seated on a sea horse. They have white and blue striped ribbons. Designed by William Wyon. CGS - Canada General Service Medals depict the portrait of an older Queen Victoria on one side with the legend "VICTOIA REGINA ET IMPERATRIX"; the other side shows the Canadian flag emerging from a border of maple leaves with the legend CANADA. They have red/orange and white striped ribbons. Signed T.B. Medals: offered as one lot of 8 Medals: sterling silver, very good condition * Scratch through name on bottom of medal. Price: listed at US $20,000.00 - offers ending March 4, 2005 Terms: certified check, shipping/handling extra Contact: R. (Bob) D. Hambly hamblys@netflash.net

Members, The estate of the late W.R. Hambly (Canada), a War of 1812 enthusiast and collector, is selling War of 1812 artifacts and is looking for an understanding and appreciative audience. In learning about your society through the internet I am impressed with the dedication and rigor you exhibit toward this period of history -­ something my father would have greatly admired. I look forward to sharing more details with you regarding this material, however, I wanted first to determine whether or not this was the appropriate forum to discuss such matters. I welcome your comments. Sincerely, R.D. Hambly

A friend asked this question: I know that in September 1813, after the American naval victory on Lake Erie, Tecumseh was shot and killed and that after the battle Kentucky militiamen skinned and mutilated his body. It was reported that Tecumseh was buried in a mass grave near the battlefield. Recently I was doing research and ran across a 1906 article in the local paper stating that Tecumseh (or at least part of him) was buried in the garden of Carlyle House.  Do any of you recall hearing that his body parts may have been spirited away as souvenirs?  I think it is unlikely that parts of him are buried here but I thought it would be fun to explore it.  In the unlikely event that it happened to be true it would give Carlyle House a link to War of 1812 and some publicity.  If any of you have heard about this possibility let me know. Barry---- ....still searching for Joseph E. Smoot, Captain USN Midshipman on board the Hornet in the War of 1812

Barry, I just perused through about 14 different affidavits or accounts on the death of Tecumseh, that were by the British, by the Americans and by the Indians themselves, and some accounts address where he was buried . Several accounts by the Indians state that Tecumseh was not mutilated, as late as a day or two after the battle, nor evere, but that an Indian near him was. That Indian near Tecumsehs body was scalped, and mutilated by having strips of skin removed from him. The opinion seems to be that some of the American forces had believed this Indian to be Tecumseh due to how well decked out he was. Tecumseh usually fought in rather plain Garb and was dressed the same on this day. It is stated more than once that Tecumseh was buried near the field of battle and one account states that the burial was within sight of the American campfires. Patrick ----- Original Message ----- From: <Naval1812@aol.com> To: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 6:45 PM

Meg, From the Captains name and the London area,and the 4th, I think you are looking at a record taken from "Men of Upper Canada,The nominal Rolls of Militia 1812-1829" Both of their names are listed, but in a tottally different area. Patrick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Meg Fuller" <ourgenealogy@sbcglobal.net> To: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 10:18 AM Subject: [WARof1812] Muster Rolls Harrison's 4th Regiment Militia London Ontario