Hi List, l have been tracing one of my ancestors,Thomas Pendlebury. l now believe that he served in both of the above Wars.He enlisted in Bolton,Lancashire and went onto London,where he married Elizabeth Townsend in 1811.In 1812 and 1815 daughters Charlotte and Eleanor are born in the British lying in hospital,Holborn,London.Elizabeth was referred to the Hospital by Lady Robert Manners.In 1812 Thomas is recorded on Charlotte's Baptism as 22 years old,from Bolton,Lancs, Soldier. Robert Manners was titled,and served in both of the above Wars,l believe Lady Manners would have thus kept an eye out for the wives of the men in her husbands Unit. Thomas was not alive in 1847 to apply for the Medals,l have so far been unable to find his name entered anywhere re War info.If anyone has ideas for me on how to go about finding records l would be so grateful.Thomas is still Soldier on daughter Eleanor's birth in 1815,and could have been a soldier until the mid 1820's when he shows up back in the Bolton area of Lancashire.he was a gameskeeper in later life.Thanks list,Pauline Pendlebury,Australia.

Hi Carey Can you tell what you mean by,"He had a War of 1812 flag on this tombstone"? Cheers Marianne Marianne Tripp Punshon Victoria Australia Researching: Aughey, Fleetwood, Stewart, Tripp in Australia Aughey, Newton, Miller in Ireland Tripp in New York State, Ohio & Oregon, USA: Manitoba, Canada Lawson in New York State, USA: Scotland and Canada > I think my great, great, great grandfather was in the War of 1812. His name > is Andrew Straub. He lived in PA and moved to Ohio about 1820. He had a War > of 1812 flag on his tombstone. > Any information would be appreciated. > Carey Hross > > > ==== WARof1812 Mailing List ==== > MESSAGE HINT: Delete all the unnecessary > material before you reply or re-send any > message. DELETE:tagline,empty lines,etc. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

My great, great, great grandfather died in 1858 and is buried in Waldo Cem., Marion County, Ohio. Thank you for all information that everyone gave me. I have a photo of Andrew Straub's tombstone with the War of 1812 flag. I will check into all the information that everyone was so nice to give me. Carey

You might try the National Archives: http://www.catalogue.nationalarchives.gov.uk/RdLeaflet.asp?sLeafletID=14 Soldiers' Discharge Papers for 1760-1913. Several other sites are referenced including Muster Rolls from 1730 - 1898. Don't know how much is available 'on-line'. Good luck. Scott Baker -----Original Message----- From: ppendlebury [mailto:ppendlebury@iinet.net.au] Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 4:24 AM To: WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WARof1812] The Peninsula and Waterloo Hi List, l have been tracing one of my ancestors,Thomas Pendlebury. l now believe that he served in both of the above Wars.He enlisted in Bolton,Lancashire and went onto London,where he married Elizabeth Townsend in 1811.In 1812 and 1815 daughters Charlotte and Eleanor are born in the British lying in hospital,Holborn,London.Elizabeth was referred to the Hospital by Lady Robert Manners.In 1812 Thomas is recorded on Charlotte's Baptism as 22 years old,from Bolton,Lancs, Soldier. Robert Manners was titled,and served in both of the above Wars,l believe Lady Manners would have thus kept an eye out for the wives of the men in her husbands Unit. Thomas was not alive in 1847 to apply for the Medals,l have so far been unable to find his name entered anywhere re War info.If anyone has ideas for me on how to go about finding records l would be so grateful.Thomas is still Soldier on daughter Eleanor's birth in 1815,and could have been a soldier until the mid 1820's when he shows up back in the Bolton area of Lancashire.he was a gameskeeper in later life.Thanks list,Pauline Pendlebury,Australia. ==== WARof1812 Mailing List ==== ADDRESS MESSAGES TO: WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429

Joe- Thank you for the information. I will look into it. Carey

I think my great, great, great grandfather was in the War of 1812. His name is Andrew Straub. He lived in PA and moved to Ohio about 1820. He had a War of 1812 flag on his tombstone. Any information would be appreciated. Carey Hross

My apologies to every one for sending material out side the rules for War of 1812. My sisncere apologies ! Doug;

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Thank you, Nelson. I really appreciate your help. -- Leona ----- Original Message ----- From: "nelson denton" <ndenton@cogeco.ca> To: "Leona L. Gustafson" <GenealogyBug@Gustafson.net>; <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [WARof1812] Age of enlistment > "True Blue - The Loyalist Legend " By Walter Stewart > Collins Publishers 1985 Toronto > ISBN 0-00-217468-5 > > > It should be available on discount shelves. or at www.abebooks.com > > It focuses mostly on the Revolution but also deals with the War of 1812 > since both involved the exact same people. > The author pulls no punches in describing some of our famous but less than > stellar ancestors > > > Another very fine book to read is "Life of a British Soldier" by Thomas > Faughnan. > > It was published in the 1870's but it was a best seller. Copies are still > around at places like www.abeboooks.com for about $20.00 > The book focuses on the day to day life of a British Sergeant from his > enlistemnt in Ireland to his retirement in Ontario. > The Crimean War covers half of the book. - It deals with a period a bit > later than 1812 but the day to day life and anecdotes are most fascinating > and are appropriate for our period > A must read for any military history buff. Look for the expanded later > editions they are much better. Lots more " campfire tall tales". > > Nelson

"True Blue - The Loyalist Legend " By Walter Stewart Collins Publishers 1985 Toronto ISBN 0-00-217468-5 It should be available on discount shelves. or at www.abebooks.com It focuses mostly on the Revolution but also deals with the War of 1812 since both involved the exact same people. The author pulls no punches in describing some of our famous but less than stellar ancestors Another very fine book to read is "Life of a British Soldier" by Thomas Faughnan. It was published in the 1870's but it was a best seller. Copies are still around at places like www.abeboooks.com for about $20.00 The book focuses on the day to day life of a British Sergeant from his enlistemnt in Ireland to his retirement in Ontario. The Crimean War covers half of the book. - It deals with a period a bit later than 1812 but the day to day life and anecdotes are most fascinating and are appropriate for our period A must read for any military history buff. Look for the expanded later editions they are much better. Lots more " campfire tall tales". Nelson

Hi All Can anyone tell me what the age of enlistment would have been in the 1812 War? I have a family story that says my ancestor Isaac Tripp ran away from home to enlist in the war, was tracked down by his father and taken home. A military record for an Isaac Tripp who enlisted in Captain Samuel banks Company, Hobby's regiment New York Militia on Sept 8, 1813 and was discharged six days later tends to support the story. At the time I believe Isaac would have been twenty years old. (His age is taken from census records) The story continues that Isaac ran away again and enlisted under his mother's maiden name and had no further contact with his family. Unfortunately I do not know who his parents were. In a pension application Isaac says he was a sergeant in Capt. John Handy's Company of New York Volunteers under General Porter. He enlisted in Rochester for a term from April 1814 to August 1814. He was wounded at Fort Erie by a musket ball passing through his abdomen. He was in hospital at Buffalo six weeks and was discharged in October 1814. He made an application for land and a pension soon after enlistment but was told he was dead and there was no record of his service. He made a second unsuccessful application in 1850. The story says he forgot he had enlisted under his mother's name and made the application under his surname. I would be interested in any information about Hobby's regiment and Porter's regiment. Cheers Marianne Marianne Tripp Punshon Victoria Australia Researching: Aughey, Fleetwood, Stewart, Tripp in Australia Aughey, Newton, Miller in Ireland Tripp in New York State, Ohio & Oregon, USA: Manitoba, Canada Lawson in New York State, USA: Scotland and Canada

Thank you, Nelson, for the very informative reply! It explains some of the things I've heard over the years. I would really appreciate it if you could send the source(s) of the information--especially if it's one the Internet. I would love to add the information to my Ohio ALHN military pages (http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~rocky/ohio_alhn/military.htm), and adding links would be even better. Leona L. Gustafson GenealogyBug@gustafson.net ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Ohio American Local History Network (ALHN) http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~rocky/ohio_alhn/ohio.htm Franklin County, Ohio ALHN http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~rocky/franklin_county/franklin.htm Franklin County, Ohio Gravestone Photos &c. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~rocky/Franklin_Cemeteries/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "nelson denton" <ndenton@cogeco.ca> To: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 1:42 AM Subject: Re: [WARof1812] Age of enlistment > There were no minimum age limits on soldiers in those days. Drummer boys > were often enlisted as young as 8 years old. Children of soldiers followed > their parents all over the world so they were often added at a young age. >

There were no minimum age limits on soldiers in those days. Drummer boys were often enlisted as young as 8 years old. Children of soldiers followed their parents all over the world so they were often added at a young age. A boy could join up as a regular soldier as soon as he could pass muster. Even worse was the officer corps. Officers could purchase their commisions and many military fathers purchased commisions for their very youthfull sons. One veteran of the Revolution- Thomas G. Anderson was only days! old when he joined the regiment as a "Major". His brother served for something like 68 years! Since you got paid and promoted based on years of service this was a very good way to get ahead in life. Corruption ruled! Muster roles are often very inaccurate 10-15% of the men on the lists often never existed - or were women, town drunkards and boys. Officers got pay and rations based on the number of men in the Regiment. Adding a few extra souls to the payroll never hurt anyone. This is why armies have inspections by the "Big Brass" Just to keep things real.! Nelson Denton

Marianne: I can't actually answer your question, but you should of course know that back then people did not have birth certificates, let alone driver's licenses or social security cards :-). In other words, a person could claim to be any age that they could get away with, and military recruiters were probably not too fussy if they had a quota to meet. For some types of occasions, such as a marriage bond, people sometimes had to produce a witness to verify their claim to being "of age", but again this was not always enforced. In any case, your ancestor's story is certainly interesting, and like many family legends it may well contain more than a grain of truth. Doug Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marianne Punshon" <mipunshon@optusnet.com.au> To: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:21 PM Subject: [WARof1812] Age of enlistment > Hi All > > Can anyone tell me what the age of enlistment would have been in the 1812 > War? I have a family story that says my ancestor Isaac Tripp ran away from > home to enlist in the war, was tracked down by his father and taken home. > > A military record for an Isaac Tripp who enlisted in Captain Samuel banks > Company, Hobby's regiment New York Militia on Sept 8, 1813 and was > discharged six days later tends to support the story. At the time I > believe > Isaac would have been twenty years old. (His age is taken from census > records) > > The story continues that Isaac ran away again and enlisted under his > mother's maiden name and had no further contact with his family. > Unfortunately I do not know who his parents were. > > In a pension application Isaac says he was a sergeant in Capt. John > Handy's > Company of New York Volunteers under General Porter. He enlisted in > Rochester for a term from April 1814 to August 1814. He was wounded at > Fort > Erie by a musket ball passing through his abdomen. He was in hospital at > Buffalo six weeks and was discharged in October 1814. > He made an application for land and a pension soon after enlistment but > was > told he was dead and there was no record of his service. He made a second > unsuccessful application in 1850. > > The story says he forgot he had enlisted under his mother's name and made > the application under his surname. > > I would be interested in any information about Hobby's regiment and > Porter's > regiment. > > Cheers > Marianne > > > Marianne Tripp Punshon > Victoria > Australia > > Researching: Aughey, Fleetwood, Stewart, Tripp in Australia > Aughey, Newton, Miller in Ireland > Tripp in New York State, Ohio & Oregon, USA: Manitoba, Canada > Lawson in New York State, USA: Scotland and Canada >

I have just started a website at www.genealogyclassifieds.com and would like to see if anyone wanted to list any old military related genealogy books or publications here. Its free and hopefully someone may have a book or society magazine someone else needs as well as putting some of the original cost you incurred back into your own pocket for new genealogical books or publications purchases. FYI, I started this because there are a lot of out of print books I am looking for and cant find anywhere to get them. Hopefully this will help me as well as some others in the process. Brian Nichols

I have just started a website at www.genealogyclassifieds.com and would like to see if anyone wanted to list any old military related genealogy books or publications here. Its free and hopefully someone may have a book of society magazine someone else needs as well as putting some of the original cost you incurred back into your own pocket for new genealogical books or publications purchases. FYI, I started this because there are a lot of out of print books I am looking for and cant find anywhere to get them. Hopefully this will help me as well as some others in the process. Brian Nichols

Due to several emails I've received concerning individuals missing from the Muster Rolls, I've made two changes to my War of 1812 webpage. I will accept, and post, comments to individuals already included in the Rolls, and I'll accept information on individuals not shown on the Rolls if family history indicate the ancestor fought at the Battle For Meigs. These individuals are listed in the "Lost Souls" section which can be reached from the opening page. This will be available to those individuals who were members of the Kentucky Militia during the period of May 1 - 5, 1813 and fought at the Battle for Fort Meigs. Regards, Bob Walker Genealogy Page: http://members.aol.com/rwa5352802 War of 1812 Page: http://members.aol.com/rwa5352802/ftmeigs

How do you go about looking for a Pension File. Pat > From: MomNat@aol.com > Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:14:37 EDT > To: WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WARof1812] Justin Jacobs - 31st US Infantry > Resent-From: WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:14:50 -0600 > > Hello Pat, > > Boy am I glad to hear that someone else had heard of the first 31st!!!!!! My > ggg grandfather John HUTCHINSON was also in the 31st US Infantry in the > WO1812 - Capt Dickinson's Co as a Private. I sent for and received his Pension > file. It was a gold mine of information, but it took 18 months to get because > they > lost my request, etc - this was several years ago, they have improved. BUT, > information about the 31st!!!! DEAD END. I even joined the list for the 31st > US > Infantry - someone on list told me it was disbanded and then reformed, but no > references. It is now somewhat of a polar unit, heavy on the Korean War - the > other war called the "Forgotten War". I have tried to find a unit history, > dead end, just the modern unit. I sort of dropped the ball on this. John was > from Vermont, born in Pomfret in 1795. > > John Hutchinson also got a land grant - in Hardin County, IL. The family is > still nearby. He may have also been in another unit (Capt Burnap's) for a > short > time and received land in another county - I have gotten nowhere on this. > This was during a mysterious first marriage prior to his marriage to my ggg > grandmother, where he fell off the map, so to speak. > > Kathryne > > > ==== WARof1812 Mailing List ==== > MESSAGE HINT: Limit your per line characters > to 55 to 70 for a much better return message. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

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The 14th Regiment US Army saw action at the battles of: Fort Niagara (21 Nov 1813) Black Rock (28 Nov 1812) Fort George (27 May 1813) Beaver Dams (24 Jun 1813) Chrysler's Farm (11 Nov 1813) LaColle Mill (30 Mar 1814) Cook's Mill (19 Oct 1814) Beaver Dams, Fort George and Chrysler's Farm were in Canada. You might check the Internet for the above and check if there is a cemetery associated with it. The 14th was composed of men mainly from Maryland Scott Baker -----Original Message----- From: Jacque-Lynne Schulman [mailto:schulm@erols.com] Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:07 PM To: WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WARof1812] 14th US Regiment Zachariah Brewer enlisted for 5 years in this regular Army unit. He was killed one year later in Canada. That regiment recruited in Baltimore but his family is living in Fairfax, Virginia though later Census data in the records for his surviving son, saw birth place to be Maryland. Any insights as to the campaign of this unit AND how I might locate his burial place? His compiled service record is less than a page with no info on cause of death, exact place, or burial. His widow did receive Federal pension and I have the application file from NARA. TIA Jacque-Lynne ==== WARof1812 Mailing List ==== WAR OF 1812 QUERY BOARD http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USWARS/War1812/General ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx