Hi Mark My 3x grt grandfather also served in the War of 1812. He had enlisted in a Veteran Battalion at Edinburgh Castle . He was already married & some wives were allowed to got too. So my 2x grt grandmother Maria Snow WALKER was born in Quebec in 1808. Her father James WALKER was discharged to pension in 1816 but never claimed it. So I don't know what happened to James & his wife, Margaret. Maria somehow gets to Stockton on tees & marries George GIBSON. I was wondering if you have been on line to the Canadian National Archives because I borrowed 2 films from them about the Vetera Battalion. They will let them come to an Archive or Lbrary or perhaps a mormon family history centre. I looked at them here on Teesside & was allowed to keep it for quite some time & the archives posted it back for me . So I was wonderinf if they had any films on the Militia for you. HOW DID YOY FIND OUT HOW YOURS CAME BACK TO ENGLAND/ HOW DID THEY GET HERE. Afyter the War troops were engaged on Garrison duty. My Jas Walker was rediced from Corpoarl to private just before he was discharged I wonder if it was so that they didn't have to pay them so much pension ? i knoe the troops were ofeered land in Canada after the war or a passage home. I joined the Quebce family history society & got a baptism & 2 burials which i think were mine. Quebec had a garrison church. Perhaps montreal did too. There are lists of land grants too but mine did not seem to be among them. Have you been in contact with derbys Archives? They will have records about the Militia. I hope this helps in some way/ Let me know how yopu get on. The Family Record Centre in London have lists of army CMB but not sure if they cover this time period. Regards Margaret Holmes ----- Original Message ----- From: <MarkPx@aol.com> To: <WAROF1812@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 7:22 AM Subject: [WAROF1812] William SHOOTER, British Soldier and Elizabeth GENT > Hello > > My 3rd great grandfather, William Shooter b about 1786 Tibshelf, > Derbyshire, > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 4028 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now!

Samuel WEST and Gibson WEST were in the SeaFencibles from Bladen Co., NC during the WAr of 1812, Captain John DuBose's Company. Where might I find info on this group and the battles of these SeaFencibles? And on their captain DuBose who was from SC? Thanks very much. Awkoska Descended from Samuel WEST born NC before 1755. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.

Hello My 3rd great grandfather, William Shooter b about 1786 Tibshelf, Derbyshire, was a member of the Derby Militia serving in Quebec in the 1812 war. He was a 2nd class Private but by 25th Sept 1816 he was a 3rd class Private and his pay had been reduced. He remained a 3rd class Private until the period of 25th March to 24th June 1819 when he was at Quebec and "temporarily discharged 24th May having completed his term of service". William met my 3rd great grandmother, Elizabeth GENT, b about 1799 Montreal, while serving in Quebec. He (apparently) married Elizabeth and she was pregnant with their son Samuel in May 1819. Elizabeth sailed to England when William was discharged and Samuel was "born at sea". William returned to coal mining back in England. William and Elizabeth had a total of 11 children including Samuel. I have a photograph of Samuel in 1874 - he was in a group of men sacked for organising labour in the mines for action to improve the conditions in the Derbyshire mines - he never worked in the mines again. William died in 1866, Elizabeth died on 29 April 1871 in Codnor, Derbyshire, aged 71. I have a number of questions: - what action, if any, was William involved in during the War, with the Derby Militia? - why was William retained in Quebec for 5 years after the war ended? what were the British troops doing during this time? - any ideas why he might have been reduced from 2nd to 3rd Private - something to do with his relationship with Elizabeth? - any record of the marriage of William and Elizabeth in the army records? - would William have been forced to go back to England? did many men remain in Quebec? - any record of Elizabeth's baptism in Montreal? However any information regarding William, Elizabeth or the Derby Militia would be gratefully received. Regards Mark Poxon Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England

Hi Listers Perhaps someone out there is familiar with the Muster Roll information of the War of 1812 for the USS Oneida. I have found 3 family ancestors on this Ship USS Oneida during the War. Under "Where Appeared" it states Sackets Harbor. Entry Day/Mo/Yr are stated. But, here are a couple columns that I do not understand. Under Rank Column what does O.S. stand for? Under another Column it states D, DD, or R what do they stand for? (I believe this stands for transfer or Discharge or something of that sort. Example #81 Owen McGrath Entry Date Feb 10th 1812 Rank shows O. S. Then D Date 8/21/1813 Then under Where or for what Reason it states Sylph Now I do understand that the schooner Sylph fought the rest of the War along side the USS Oneida. Would this R mean Re-signed ? if so then what is D and DD for? This is from pg 156 of the USS Oneida Muster Roll Another Entry for him appears on Pg 1 where he is #23 dated Oct 29 1811 prior to the War but on the USS Oneida in Sackets Harbor. Thanks for your help and excuse my lack of knowledge on these particular Muster Rolls (as I do not have the sheet telling me Abbrev. meanings. Pat R

Paula, you wrote: That is the number of the file and it means his widow applied for, but did not receive, a pension. The W.O. stands for Widow's Original, had she been granted the pension the number would begin W.C. for Widow's Certificate. Rejected pension files are generally just as useful as those where a pension was granted, I would recommend obtaining a copy of the file. Paula. That makes a lot of sense - James GARDNER died after an accident in 1818, in Meigs County, Ohio. His wife, Anne (IRELAND) left her three young children with strangers and returned to New York, coming back for her children after about a year. Anne traveled all across the east, going back to NY again, then to MA, where she remarried, then to VA/WV in 1850, finally settling in Manhattan, Riley County, KS, living with her youngest son James, until her death in 1883. I wonder why the pension was denied? I have contacted NARA and ordered the file, paid by credit card to hopefully speed things up! Judy texasyankee@cableone.net

On 17 Aug 2006 at 11:27, Judy Lock wrote: > I posted earlier this morning on James F. GARDNER. I just received a > page from the book, Index to War of 1812 Pension Files, by Virgil > White. Beside my ancestor's name, is the following: WO-29151. Does > anyone know what this number means? Judy That is the number of the file and it means his widow applied for, but did not receive, a pension. The W.O. stands for Widow's Original, had she been granted the pension the number would begin W.C. for Widow's Certificate. Rejected pension files are generally just as useful as those where a pension was granted, I would recommend obtaining a copy of the file. -- Paula Wiegand Genealogy Quest www.Genealogy-Quest.com

Hi, Judy I believe the WO stands for "Widow's Original" and the 29151 would be the pension certificate number. If you go to the National Archives Order Online website, you should be able to order the pension file (widow's pension in this case). ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Judy Lock <texasyankee@cableone.net> Date: Aug 17, 2006 11:27 AM Subject: [WARof1812] Index To War of 1812 Pension Files To: WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com I posted earlier this morning on James F. GARDNER. I just received a page from the book, Index to War of 1812 Pension Files, by Virgil White. Beside my ancestor's name, is the following: WO-29151. Does anyone know what this number means? Judy texasyankee@cableone.net ==== WARof1812 Mailing List ==== WAR of 1812 LIST ADMINISTRATOR <<<commander@sunlitsurf.com>>> ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

I posted earlier this morning on James F. GARDNER. I just received a page from the book, Index to War of 1812 Pension Files, by Virgil White. Beside my ancestor's name, is the following: WO-29151. Does anyone know what this number means? Judy texasyankee@cableone.net

I am a new member of this list and am searching for information on the 29th Regiment from New York. From what I have found so far, this Regiment had three Captain's - Capt. Benjamin DANVER, Capt. LYONS and Capt. Elam LYND, the latter who later became warden at Sing Sing Prison. My husband's 3rd great grandfather, James F. GARDNER, served in the War of 1812 under these Captain's - I have contacted NARA for his service record, but am trying to find information in the mean time. James F. GARDNER'S wife was Anne IRELAND, daughter of Thomas IRELAND and Sarah SEELEY, all from Albany, New York James died 1818 in Middleport, Meigs County, Ohio. Any help appreciated. Judy Amarillo, Texas Judy texasyankee@cableone.net

I am just sharing information, as a descendant of the Elliott's was on this list and that other 1812 Patriots were also mentioned. No need to be mean or rude. In a message dated 8/16/2006 11:38:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lilyomin@ticon.net writes: So what's your point. Do you have an Idea you are trying to project? Am I missing something?

So what's your point. Do you have an Idea you are trying to project? Am I missing something? On Aug 16, 2006, at 6:19 PM, Nae80Queen@aol.com wrote: > Robert Elliott lived where President village now is. He was one of the > early > settlers of the county. He had a grist-mill seven miles below > Tionesta, and > a good farm on the river bottom. William Elliott, son of Robert, was in > business in Franklin in company with Hugh Henry, and afterward in the > foundry > business, as Elliott & Eply. He was prothonotary of Venango county and > a good > man. The grist-mill was a water-power at the mouth of Hemlock creek. > The > property now belongs to E. E. Clapp > At Henry's Bend lived John Henry. His was the first house above Pithole > riffle, and a good place of entertainment. John's son Hugh I have > already > mentioned as a partner of William Elliott in mercantile business at > Franklin. > > > > > ==== WARof1812 Mailing List ==== > UNSUBSCRIPTION DIRECTIONS > Warof1812-L-request@rootsweb.com UNSUBSCRIBE <as subject> > Warof1812-D-request@rootsweb.com UNSUBSCRIBE <as subject> > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Robert Elliott lived where President village now is. He was one of the early settlers of the county. He had a grist-mill seven miles below Tionesta, and a good farm on the river bottom. William Elliott, son of Robert, was in business in Franklin in company with Hugh Henry, and afterward in the foundry business, as Elliott & Eply. He was prothonotary of Venango county and a good man. The grist-mill was a water-power at the mouth of Hemlock creek. The property now belongs to E. E. Clapp At Henry's Bend lived John Henry. His was the first house above Pithole riffle, and a good place of entertainment. John's son Hugh I have already mentioned as a partner of William Elliott in mercantile business at Franklin.

You might wish to do a search on Google.com for your people, using whatever spelling variants seem called for. Surround the name with quotation marks: "John Smith" If you get a tremendous number of hits, you can refine the search by ncluding a county or state location. Look at the bottom of the Google page to see where you do an advanced search. Good luck! -- Adele/Seattle -----Original Message----- From: Ron Hanks [mailto:ronhanks@earthlink.net] Sent: August 14, 2006 5:30 PM To: WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WARof1812] Re: Isham and Brittain West I checked "Indiana War of 1812 Soldiers Militia", 1984, by Charles M Franklin, published by Ye Olde Genealogy Shoppe. (Keeping in mind that Warrick County, Indiana was formed in 1813 from Knox County) The only entry I found for a West was the following. Knox County: Capt. Benjamin Beckes' Co. 4th Regt. Indiana Mounted and Foot Militia Enlisted 22Oct1812 Discharged 31Oct1812 Luis F West, Private discharged 20Sept, 1812, overage There was also a Private John West that enlisted in Harrison County and a Private William West that enlisted in Jefferson County ----- Original Message ----- From: "Awkoska" <westhistorian@yahoo.com> To: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 6:37 AM Subject: Isham and Brittain West > Isham WEST was born ca 1780 in NC, probably Duplin County. He died in > Warrick Co., IN. His brother, Brittain/Briton WEST was born in NC ca 1778 > and died in Perry Co., MO. With such scant information on the brothers, > where should I look to learn whether they served in War of 1812 and if so, > where did they serve? > > Thanks for any help. > > Awkoska > > > Descended from Samuel WEST born NC before 1755. > > > > > - ------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. > ==== WARof1812 Mailing List ==== MESSAGE HINT: Delete all the unnecessary material before you reply or re-send any message. DELETE:tagline,empty lines,etc. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

I watched a PBS special last night about Ohio and Lake Erie and they talked about Johnson's Island and the Confederate Prisoner Cemetery. This site is amazing and chalked full of Confederate soldiers names. http://www.johnsonsisland.org/index.htm This web site provides listings of Confederate prisoners of war and Union guard garrison, the history of Johnson's Island, and information on visiting the island and POW cemetery which overlooks Sandusky Bay in Lake Erie. The Civil War section also includes POW letters and autograph books. When you get to the main page click on the second tab History and POW's. A drop down menu gets you to the Cemetery which has no listings per se on line of who all is there but if you click on Barbierie List you'll get an A-Z and more of names. This list includes only those prisoners on Johnson's Island prior to September of 1862. Prisoners on the island after this date are not listed. I forwarded this to my Confederate states lists as well as couple others so I am sorry for repeated emails and please forward this on to your lists as I don't subscribe to some of these southern states. What a find this can be. Janean

I'm searching for a Nathan or Nathaniel WEST who, according to a 1882 Macomb Co., MI, history, served in the War of 1812. He had a daughter, Nancy WEST who married Washington HUBBELL and bore a posthumous child, Sarah Sophia HUBBELL, in Bristol, Ontario Co., NY, several weeks after her husbands death in 1852. This line is one of my most stubborn brick-walls and any clues would be greatly appreciated. Jane Devlin Lake Orion, MI janedevlin@ameritech.net DUNHAM - WILCOX - TROTT - KIRK website Over 3000 data files for CT, MA, RI, NJ, NY & MI http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jdevlin/

I checked "Indiana War of 1812 Soldiers Militia", 1984, by Charles M Franklin, published by Ye Olde Genealogy Shoppe. (Keeping in mind that Warrick County, Indiana was formed in 1813 from Knox County) The only entry I found for a West was the following. Knox County: Capt. Benjamin Beckes' Co. 4th Regt. Indiana Mounted and Foot Militia Enlisted 22Oct1812 Discharged 31Oct1812 Luis F West, Private discharged 20Sept, 1812, overage There was also a Private John West that enlisted in Harrison County and a Private William West that enlisted in Jefferson County ----- Original Message ----- From: "Awkoska" <westhistorian@yahoo.com> To: <WARof1812-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 6:37 AM Subject: Isham and Brittain West > Isham WEST was born ca 1780 in NC, probably Duplin County. He died in > Warrick Co., IN. His brother, Brittain/Briton WEST was born in NC ca 1778 > and died in Perry Co., MO. With such scant information on the brothers, > where should I look to learn whether they served in War of 1812 and if so, > where did they serve? > > Thanks for any help. > > Awkoska > > > Descended from Samuel WEST born NC before 1755. > > > > > - ------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. >

Isham WEST was born ca 1780 in NC, probably Duplin County. He died in Warrick Co., IN. His brother, Brittain/Briton WEST was born in NC ca 1778 and died in Perry Co., MO. With such scant information on the brothers, where should I look to learn whether they served in War of 1812 and if so, where did they serve? Thanks for any help. Awkoska Descended from Samuel WEST born NC before 1755. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.

Hi all- 1. Could anyone recommend a site or place that I can access to find the Captain of a Revolutionary company if I know the Regiment and company (in Pennsylvania)? 2. Could anyone recommended a good site for muster rolls for PA and NY in Amewrican Rev, War of 1812 and Civil War? 3. In the American Rev index, what is the "class" designation mean? Example, I have a 2nd Batt 8th Co 8th class individual. Is a certain class (rank) better (higher)? 4. Could nayone recommended any good sites for history of companies in PA (Rev, 1812 and Civil)? Thanks, MThompson ________________________________________________________________________ Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! Unlimited Internet Access with 1GB of Email Storage. Visit http://www.juno.com/value to sign up today!

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Does anyone have the record of where the NY militia, company 129th (Farnham's) Regiment went, and what battles they fought in? My ancestor was in that unit and I'd love to be able to read about it. Thanks, Sarah