Subj: WAMSLEY~WEB NEWSLETTER #16 Date: 02/03/98 WAMSLEY~WEB NEWSLETTER #16 _______________ There are now 42 people participating in our newsletter!!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Subj: Re: WAMSLEY~WEB NEWSLETTER #15 Date: 98-01-16 18:42:52 EST From: Ykmjk To: Wamsleyweb In a message dated 98-01-16 13:58:07 EST, you write: << From: Genogal To: Wamsleyweb I would love to receive the newsletter. I am from Indiana and so are the Wamsley's that I know. If I remember correctly, The Wamsley's here go back atleast four generations, all from this area( Indianapolis). After that I have no idea. I know there is American Indian in the family, but I'm not sure how that comes into the family tree. That is what started my search. >> my isaac wamsley,who was the son of isaac wamsley of adams co ohio (the german) went to franklin county indiana around 1813 with his family. some of the desendants then went to wabash county indiana. others from the same family setlled in decatur co. i may have a few more wamsley marriage records from thos e areas if you know of an ancestors name i will check my records. yvonne ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ]] ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] Subj: Date: 98-01-17 10:04:05 EST From: dphares@traveller.com (Richard Phares) To: Wamsleyweb@aol.com Wanda: Newsletter #15: Guardianship of the children of Joseph Wamsley, Sr.; Joseph, and Matthew. It is generally accepted that their brother, William, was the person mentioned in this order. At this time he was of age and himself married. In 1756 Joseph, Jr. would have been about 18 years old and Matthew about 17. The question in my mind is who was the guardian of Joseph and Matthew from the time Joseph, Sr. died in 1782 and 1786 when this order was dated. Some have speculated that the wife of Joseph, Sr. was living during this time but she wasn't mentioned in his will. Also I notice in several entries that it is stated as fact that Matthew Dorcus was the father of Judith Dorcus. As far as I know this has never been proved. The document I have states that her father "may have been" Matthew Dorcus. Newsletter #13: The marriage date of Jacob See Wamsley and Minerva Hamilton is given as January 9, 1850. According to Randolph Co. marriage records the date was January 9, 1849. Dick Phares-Huntsville, AL ************************************ Phares Snyder Harris Wamsley Thanks! Quick Taylor Woodson Vaughn ************************************ ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ]] ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] Subj: Date: 98-01-17 16:53:14 EST From: dphares@traveller.com (Richard Phares) To: Wamsleyweb@aol.com CC: trackfan@eurekanet.com Wanda: I found these entries in a document sent to me by Wilbur Wamsley some time ago. I have no idea who this John Walmsley is but tradition has it that there were 3 Wamsley brothere, all pirates, and this may be one of them. CHARLES CITY COUNTY COURT ORDERS 1687-1695 With a fragment of a Court Order Book for 1680 Jno. Walmsley , Marriner, appearing here to be a person, of dangerous life and behaviour, evidence being given that he hath stolen away three negroes from Jamaica and is notified in a London gazette for running away with a sloope or vessel burden 35 tun, besides several instances given that he hath tried to seduce our servants and slaves to export them and also he being accused of living in open fornication with one Sarah Way, he is hereby comitted to safe custody until he give bond with good security for his appearance before the President and Council, 22nd of this instant, to answer such matters as shall be layd down there. Sarah Way, an idle, vagrant, lewd woman living in a loose wandering condition with Jno. Walmsley, Marriner, being impeached of the sin of fornication with said Walmsley, and other extravagances, tending to a dissolute life and contrary to the peace of our Sovereign Lord the King and law established to prevent such persons, she is comitted to safe custody until she give bond with good security for her future good behaviour. September 2, 1689 at Sherley Hundred Present: Coll. Edw’d Hill, Capt. Bisse, Capt. Perry, Capt. Lewellin, JUSTICES Jno. Walmsley, though a person of very ill note, if he leave the country in 20 days, or give good security for good behaviour, the process agst him will be dropped. Signed: Hugh Davis D.C1. (May 1, 1690) Henry Harman and Adam Tapley to value estate of Jno. Walmsley, dec’d, and Capt. Pr. Perry and Mr. Jno. Taylor to swear them and to take oath of Elizabeth Limbry to will of dec’d. Judgt. granted Jonah Liscombe agst. estate of Jno. Walmsley, dec'd for ( pounds?) 3. Ordered that Jno. Threeweeks, Constable, do deliver to Jno. Everitt what estate he is possessed with of Jno. Walmsley, dec’d. I don’t know if the latter is the same John Walmsley but judging from the kind of life he lived, I suspect it is. Dick Phares-Huntsville, AL ************************************ Phares Snyder Harris Wamsley Quick Taylor Woodson Vaughn ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ]] ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] Subj: Re: Wamsley Date: 98-01-17 18:08:35 EST From: Genogal To: Wamsleyweb Wanda , Thank you for the additional info. Sorry for the delay in reply. The computer I use belongs to my boyfriends mother and she was on the internet and somthing went wrong she lost everything for a while. She had to take it to a friend to get it fixed. I believe the Carl Wamsley in the letter is Kyra's great-great grandfather and I know that Ida is her great-great grandmother. I was glad that I did not lose everything when the system went down. I have saved all of your files and I believe that I have figured out this downloading thing. Thanks. Kim ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ]] ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] Subj: Mary Cunningham Date: 98-01-08 09:26:58 EST From: MAWamsley To: Wamsleyweb In Wamsley~web #14, Sheryl asked for information on the Mary CUNNINGHAM who was the mother of Prudence Wilmoth, wife of William Heater Wamsley. I see that her question was answered on the Pendleton County listserve with a helpful item from the list administrator, Nedra Brill (brillnd@pacifier.com). This is the best information I have seen on this family: Mary Harter, FASG, was the self-proclaimed Pendleton County Genealogist and a descendant of this Cunningham Family. I have her library and files. Mary published an EXCELLENT compilation on this Cunningham Family in Volume 29 of "The Virginia Genealogist," 1985. She carefully researched the family for 30 years, looking for absolute proof since all too many "I think so's" have been published on the families of Pendleton County. There were several James Cunninghams in the area and Mary read, page by page, and abstracted all Cunningham wills and deeds to 1810 in the counties of Augusta, Bath, Rockbridge, Botetourt and Rockingham Counties, VA, and Hardy, Hampshire, Pendleton, Randolph and Berkeley, WV. [No one ever said that accurate genealogical research was quick!] Mary copied all land grants from Cunninghams in western Virginia, as filed at the VA State Archives, and traced the tracts as far as possible, and also checked records in several Pennsylvania counties. She made an extensive point of the importance of looking at ALL available records, for she often thought she had identified her ancestor, only to discover a new document that proved a different family for that man. ANYONE who has Cunningham ancestors should obtain a copy of this excellent article. I have personnally done some limited research on a few of the descendants, although not the Wilmoths. The Cunninghams are not my ancestors. Sheryl, to answer your specific question, Mary Cunningham was the daughter of James and Agnes (--?--) Cunningham, as proven by a deed from the heirs of James Cunningham to Edward Burres, dated 24 September 1810 (prov. 21 October 1819), recorded Bath County, VA, Deed Book 6:30, in support of two other deeds which give further, but not complete, proof. Mary married John Wilmoth, and it was their marriage BOND that was dated 16 October 1799, not their marriage date. Mary Harter references two published sources of information on them: Maxwell's History of Randolph County (1898), noting that John could not have been the son of Nicholas Wilmoth and Sidney Currence who were married in 1789, and "Wilmoth, Wilmeth, Etc." by James Lillard Wilmoth (Philadelphia, 1940). John and Mary (Cunningham) Wilmoth had 12 children who are named by Maxwell. James Cunningham was probably the son of John Cunningham and Mary Peterson. Perhaps someone can offer PROOF of this--much, much has been published that supposes this but no actual documents have been located. Mary discusses this in great length in the article, including the second marriage of John's widow Mary. Mary Ann Wamsley ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ]] ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] Subj: TALBOTT/CAPITO #13 Date: 97-12-30 20:25:34 EST From: s2ee@juno.com (SHIRLEY V TOOHEY) To: wamsleyweb@AOL.COM In addition to the 2 children you have listed for Julia Ann CAPITO & ELAM DOWDEN TALBOTT there were 5 more..7 total per Katherine Hart Frame's book "Harts of Randolph".. Both Julia Ann & Elam D.Talbott are buried in old Philippi graveyard . All ch born in Barbour Co. 1. infant d 1861 2. Madora Talbott b July 25, 1862 d. Feb 7, 1932 in Harrison Co, WV m. in Barbour Co., George W. Gall Jr. b. in Barbour Co., May 25, 1859, son of George W. & Elizabeth TAlbott Gall Sr. Children b. in Barbour Co. a. Bessie Gall m. F.A.Casteel, D.D.S. WAsh. DC b. Edna Gall, Washington, D.C. m. .?..Darr. 3. Cora Talbott b. 1864 d 1884 unmarried. 4. Astley C. Talbott b. 1866 d. 1871 5. Ina Talbott b. 1867 d. 1874 6. Dowden C. Talbott d Wheeling,WV m. Susan Slonaker 7. Maronee Capito Talbot (he dropped one of the final "t's") b. Sept 9, 1873 m.(1) June 27, 1907 in Monongalia Co, WV George Clark Wilson b 1884 in Marion Co, WV dau of James Clark & Linnie Wade Wilson d in Harrison Co, WV Sept 4, 1923 6 ch. a. Julia Wilson Talbot b Apr 30, 1908 b. Dorothy Wade Talbot b.Oct 3, 1909 c. Peggy Graham Talbot b. Oct 11,1910 d. John Hart Talbot b. Jan 13, 1913 e. Richard Dowden TAlbot b. Sept. 8, 1919 d. Sept 7, 1923 f. Maronee Talbot b. Jan 16, 1922 m. (2) July 5, 1929 Tampa,Fl Caroline DuRant b. SumterCo, S.C. Mar 19,1800 dau of Andrew Clarence & Camille Caroline (Dixon) DuRant. (They lived in Tampa,FL no ch.) From: s2ee@juno.com (SHIRLEY V TOOHEY) ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ]] ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] Thomas Wamsley and Jemimia Channel (daughter of Jeremiah) were married on December 5, 1811. (Randolph, West Virginia) I do not have this couple in my records. Does anyone know who they were? Wanda ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ]] ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] I just recently found a marriage record for my great-grandfather's brother, Samuel Blaine Wamsley. It appears that he was married twice. Does anyone know what happened to his first wife and whether or not he and his second wife had any children? ------->> Samuel Blaine Wamsley, Jr. Samuel Blaine Wamsley, Jr. was born January 28, 1840 and died July 28, 1930. He was the son of Andrew Marcellus Wamsley and Mary Harper. (He was named "Jr." after his grandfather.) He married (1) Margaret Crouch January 05, 1869. He married (2) Elizabeth W. Parsons November 23, 1876. Elizabeth was the daughter of Ward Parsons and Sarah A.. Children of Samuel Wamsley and Margaret Crouch are: i. Oscar Bruce Wamsley, born October 24, 1871; died January 26, 1875. ii. Maggie Wamsley, born December 30, 1870; died December 31, 1870. ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ]] ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] I found some information at a National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution site re: William Robinson. Added to what I already have: William B. Robinson William B. Robinson, born 1743 in Clarksburg, Virginia (Source: The National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution, page 63.); died 1815 in Ohio. He was the son of James William Robinson and Mary Margaret McKinney. He married (1) Margaret Lee. He married (2) Mary Margaret See 1773 (Source: 1850 Randolph County census.). She was the daughter of Frederick Michael See, and the widow of Littleberry Roach. William served during the American Revolution as adjutant of the 5th and 9th Virginia regiments under Lieutenant- Colonel O. Towles. Margaret and William settled in Harrison County, Virginia. Children of William Robinson and Mary See are: i. James Robinson, born Unknown; died Deceased. ii. William B. Robinson II, born 1774; died Deceased. iii. Benjamin Robinson, born 1776; died Deceased. iv. John Robinson, born 1780. v. Mary Robinson, born 1784; married John Wamsley. vi. Elizabeth Robinson, born 1787. vii. Sarah Robinson, born Unknown; died Deceased. viii. Catherine Robinson. ix. Margaret Robinson. x. Rebecca Robinson. If anyone has anything different, let me know. Wanda ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ]] ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] Subj: marriages Date: 98-01-22 10:11:01 EST From: Ykmjk To: Wamsleyweb was looking through some early marriages of new york and found the following: 1770, july 2 isaac wamsley and leah stout 1763, dec 17 jane wamsley and richard warner hope this helps someone yvonne ykmjk@aol.com ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ]] ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] Kim, (Genogal) Have you been able to make any connections with our Wamsleys yet? ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ]] ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] Cecil, I do not have your Nancy Wamsley in my files. Send in your ancestors between you and her and I will see if I have any of them. Wanda ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ]] ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] Mary Ann, Who is Willard Wamsley descended from? ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ]] ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] Does anyone know this person? George Wamsley George owned property in Chippewa County, Wisconsin. (source: 1888 Platt book, Chipewa County, Wisconsin, Township 30, Range 10W) ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ]] ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] Subj: Fwd: Civil War Medals Date: 98-01-29 10:28:20 EST From: MJLeenstra To: Wamsleyweb Evenin' All! Some of you may find this interesting. The following came through on another list tonight and thought I'ld pass it along. Many of you may know this already, but for the benefit of those who may not: In 1866, the state of West Virginia minted a medal for each of the soldiers who participated in the Civil War. Originally, 26,099 were minted and many given to the soldier himself. However, the state was unable to find all the veterans, leaving the medal unclaimed. In fact, there are still about 5,200 which have not been claimed and presented to the families of these veterans. The WV Archives are working to locate the descendants of these soldiers. The claim process is simple: 1. Go to the site, read about the medals and check the list. 2. If one of the names on the list matches your ancestor, follow the claim submission process detailed at the site. 3. They will work with you to verify your claim, and if validated you could receive the medal on behalf of your ancestor. Simple as that, here's the site: http://www.wvlc.wvnet.edu/history/medals.html ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ]] ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] From: ejwamsle@eos.ncsu.edu (Eric Jacob Wamsley) To: wamsleyweb@aol.com Wanda, My name is Eric Jacob Wamsley, and I received an email from Mary Ann Wamsley, telling me about the Wamsely Research/newsletter. I am very interested in helping and finding out more information about my families history/ties. I would like to subscribe to the newletter that is sent out. A few things that I remember about my family is that, My greatgrand parents moved to the US and settled in the New York City area around the 1860's, our name was originally spelled Walmsley and was changed to Wamsley when they immigrated here. That all I really know, about my family now, but I will talk to my GrandMother to find out some names and places. Eric J. Wamsley ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ]] ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] From: djheim@nut-n-but.net (John Heimnick) Reply-to: djheim@nut-n-but.net To: Wamsleyweb@aol.com Hi Wanda - I am searching for Walmsley, Wamsley, etc. Please send me the Wamsley Newsletter and let me know what information you would like as I am willing to share what dataI have. I understand there is no charge for your Newsletter. The family comes from Saxony to England and my line came to Ireland possibly during Cromwell's reign. My grandfather came to America in 1881. My information starts with Edward Walmsley b. 1792 in Ireland. I look forward to hearing from you. Dorothy H. ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ]] ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] 'Till next time, take care and keep the info coming in! Thanks to everyone! Wanda