Subj: WAMSLEY~WEB NEWSLETTER #17 Date: 02/18/98 To: Wamsley@erols.com, TBell90514, CCAlton, obscntb1@dtx.net, evel@cetlink.net, MAWamsley, channell@isx.com, bdurley@pcii.net, JmhJmd@aol.com, MJLeenstra, ChrisEyeC@aol.com, dphares@traveller.com, swamsley@concentric.net, drmalec@sprynet.com, Nooneshm2, estair@worldnetla.net, Ykmjk@aol.com, Kathy_a. williams@berea.edu, trackfan@eurekanet.com, hmccawle@ix.netcom.com, Hoytee, WAKEDUKE, Leatrice@classic.msn.com, sweetannie@onecom.com, WilburW683, vlewis@access.mountain.net, rsltuck@Turbonet.com, rosencrance@wwd.net, sandcrab@gulf.net, s2ee@juno.com, tad@citynet.net, ZackJosh, pwamsley@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu, KMyers1997, minetree@rma.edu, tashrout, To: phalintl@aol.com, FScroggin, redwolf@shadowlink.net, ejwamsle@eos.ncsu.edu, djheim@nut-n-but.net, jcornwel@mail04.mitre.org, ChrisStraight@compuserve.com, stoneman@execpc.com, neldar@gte.net, kejjj@mercury.net WAMSLEY~WEB NEWSLETTER #17 `'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'Hello everyone!!`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`' There are now 46 of us reading and sharing the information in this newsletter! For all of you, "old-timers" and "new- comers", if you want any of the past newsletters, just let me know and I will be glad to send them. Some of you who have requested past newsletters have had trouble opening and reading attached files, so unless you request that the newsletters be sent as an attached file, I will send each one as a seperate e- mail. I have tried to honor everyone's request for past newsletters. If I have accidentally overlooked any of your requests, please ask again. Feel free to give copies to anyone who wants them and does not have e-mail. Also - when you send in a question regarding Wamsley or related families, I put it in the next newsletter without an answer from me. This gives everyone equal opportunity to answer questions and send comments. There are many of you who have been researching the families a lot longer than I have and are better able to provide the information requested. ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING YOU SEND IS OF VALUE TO SOMEONE! --Wanda ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ]] ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] Does anyone know who this person is? -----> Barbara Wamsley, wife of Thomas Garfield Fidler, mother of Terri, Susan, and Steven. I do not have any dates, and I do not know who the parents of Barbara were. )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) )) ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) Date: 98-02-03 11:19:24 EST From: ejwamsle@eos.ncsu.edu (Eric Jacob Wamsley) To: Wamsleyweb@aol.com Wanda, The information I gave you in my first letter was wrong,(I don't know why I've always thought that) but I called my grandmother last night and got some information. I forgot that list of names in my room, but I would like to correct the things that I mentioned last time. My grandmother told me that our name was always spelled Wamsley. And also that my greatgrandfather John Wamsley came to the US around the 1900's, he used to work in a Lace Factory some where in England before he came over. I have a few more names, but I want to get my list first so I don't mess up any of the names. Expect another email from me soon. Thank You. Eric J. Wamsley )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) )) )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))WWanda, This is what I have on William B. Robinson Family, in addition to what you had, William died 18 Oct 1815 at Franklin Twp, Coshocton Co, Ohio. There is a Robinson cemetery there that includes Robinson and Wamsleys. their children all born at Clarksburg,Va (WV) 1. Mary 14 Mar 1767 15 Jan 1832 Wamsley, John 2. Elizabeth 1769 1 Dec 1827 Davission,Abadiah 3. Margaret 1771 4 Oct 1804 Tanner, James 4. Sarah 1773 Backley, John 5. William 1775 1804 Johnson, Ann 6. John 1777 Johnson, Nancy 7. Benjamin 28 Oct 1779 30 Sep 1825 Kimberly,Phebe m. 8. Rebecca 1781 1821 Johnson, Valentin 9. Catherine 1784 7 May 1830 Scott, Joseph 10. James 15 Nov 1787 7 May 1856 Wood, Amelia Letts, Phoebe Larry Phalin ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ]] ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] Captain Jonathan Wamsley was commander of a Company of Infantry from the War of 1812, mustered in at Beverly, Randolph County, West Virginia. It was part of the 6th Regiment of the Virginia Militia. Does anyone know who this Jonathan was? Who were his parents? ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ]] ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] Wanda, Here is some of the information I received from my grandmother. My greatgrandfather. John Wamsley(Moved to US around 1900's from England used to work in a Lace Factory). His four sons (no order). Georgie(mentally slow, died when he was changing a tire when the car fell and it hit him in the head). John jr.(died when he was 50 due to a massive heart attack when he was walking up the stairs or a subway). Harold(Lived in Virginia, his wife was called Glenn, he died around 1979 by a heart attack when he was in Florida). My grandfather Robert Joseph(His wife Theresa, lived in New York, Was a carpenter Fought in WWII in the Army in Italy died a year and a half ago from a heart attack). Robert J. Wamsley's three sons are in order(Jimmy, William John, and Edward) Jimmy(wife's name is Lori, live in New York, have three children: Nicole, Lisa, and Theresa) Edward(wife's name is Mary, just retired from the Army, no live in North Carolina, have two children: Jonathan and Jennifer) My father: William John(wife's name Deborah, Also retired from Army and lives in North Carolina, has three children: Eric, Tara, and Kurt) This is about all I know about my family line right now, my grandmother said that my grandfather never talked about his father, so she really doesn't know much. I will see if she can remember anything else. Eric J. Wamsley ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ]] ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] From: neldar@gte.net (NELDA RILEY) To: wamsleyweb@aol.com I understand you have a Wamsley Newsletter that may help me in my search for the family tree. My grandfather comes from West Virginia and the last we knew he was in Flint, Michigan. Any connections? Thanks, Nelda Wamsley Riley ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ]] ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] From: kejjj@mercury.net (Edith Lanning) To: Wamsleyweb@aol.com Dear Wamsleyweb, A friend tuned in to your newsletter and copied me off the Wamsley Newsletter #15. I would like to subscribe to it. I am interested in the family of John Wamsley & Judith Dorcus who md in Anne Arundel MD and moved to Augusta County, VA. Their 6th child James Wamsley b Mar 6 1762 d 28 Feb 1842 in Lewis Co. VA is the particular one I would like information on. According to a record in the DAR library, this man substituted for Thomas Bland of Augusta Co. VA (Pendleton Co. later) in the revolution War. He md a Barbara Bland 1783 in Lewis Co. VA acc. to that record and your newsletter. Of course Lewis Co. wasn't in existence at that time, so I wonder what the source is for this information. I'm interested because I have heard that Margaret who was first wife of Thomas Bland may have been a Wamsley. I see no listing of a Margaret in the info on the Wamsley's. She would have been born about 1740 and died about 1792. I had never heard of a Barbara Bland in this area before seeing the above item last year, so I am very anxious to know more about her. Was she a daughter of Thomas Bland? I hope someone has an ironclad source for this information and can help me link her to a Bland family. Are any descendants of this couple on your list of correspondents on the Wamsleyweb? Thanks for any news on this family that may exist. There was a Bland family in Anne Arundel Co. MD in these early days, so it sounds like good information. Sincerely, Edith Lanning *You're right - Lewis County, Virginia (now West Virginia) was formed in 1816 from Harrison County and Randolph County.* ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ]] ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] Hi Wanda, You emailed me a biography of George Fisher WAMSLEY in November to include in the Randolph County Archives. Due to a crash, I lost most of the messages from Nov- Dec. Needless to say, the Bio was oone of them along with your address. Today, while sorting through some papers, I found the print-out I had made of your message. Just wanted to let you know. I will type it up and put it in the Randolph Co. Archives. Warmest Regards, Valerie FORREN Crook Monroe, NC vfcrook@trellis.net ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ]] ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] Hello, It was good to get your reply and with the information I wanted to know! Elizabeth Wamsley is my great-great-grandmother. My descent goes like this: Elizabeth Wamsley +David Russell Caldwell Serilda Caldwell +Christopher Columbus Caswell Oscar Wilde Caswell +Ada Mae Collins Roberta Maxine Caswell +Joseph Davis Cornwell, Jr Joseph Davis Cornwell III By all means, add me to your newsletter list. I am dying to get this information to my cousin who has documented the Caldwell line in a manuscript she titled "Pirates and Presbyterians" because of an (unsubstantiated) story about the early Caldwells' piracy in the Mediterranean in the 15th century. We now have two lines of pirate ancestors!!! Joe Cornwell ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ]] ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] My paternal grandmother is a Wamsley from Highland County, VA and the family later moved to Randolph County, WV. Her father is Jefferson Floyd Wamsley (b. 1861) and her grandfather is William M. Wamsley (b. 1831 d. 1881). I believe her g-grandfather is a Jesse Wamsley (b. 1795) who fought in the War of 1812. Some of this is not verified. Regards Chris Straight 12807 Timberside Drive Austin, TX 78727 ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ]] ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] I would like to subscribe to the Wamsley newsletter. Thank you,J. L. White 8835 Maple Drive Caledonia, WI 53108-9618 P.S. I grew-up with the Wamsley boys.. *Tell us more about your connection to Wamsleys, thanks!* ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ]] ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] Thanks for answering! I know so little about the Wamsleys as my dad, who passed away in 1972, didn't talk about it to us. Then, of course, we were young and had other things on our minds. My father, Fred Woodrow Wamsley, was born July 2, 1912. His father's name was Elmer Russell Wamsley who was in Flint, Michigan, the last we knew. My father had two brothers, Orest Joseph and Vassie. All three have since passed. I would like to be on your mailing list. I'm hoping this summer to take some time and research the family in West Virginia. My grandmother was Emma Mae Hollen Thanks again. Nelda Riley ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ]] ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] Elizabeth Wamsley was my great-great-grandmother and I am interested in learning more about her line. Joe Cornwell ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ]] ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] From: John Heimnick Dear Wanda - After reading the back issues of the Walmsley Newspaper, the families represented here do not seem to connect to our Michigan Walmsleys but perhaps I can still contribute. Two facts encourage me to send the information on my family: An Edward from Ireland is mentioned in your newsletter and my aunt indicated we were related to Amecedes Smith. She was called Mary, married a Walmsley and lived in Virginia. If there is any interest in the family listed below I will gladly share what information I have. Our direct line came from England to Ireland with the army of William III and/or with the Plantation movement under Cole. Walmsley's are listed in both groups. We assume they originally came from Saxony. In the city of York (which was a fortified city), one of the old fortified gates which is still preserved is called "Walmsgate." I. Edward Walmsley 1792-1852 Born in the Parish of Magheraculmoney. Married Mary Anne b. 1799 d. April 17, 1869. Lived in Drumconnis, Parish of Magheracross. 1. Nicholas 2. Edward 3. Charles b. July 25, 1828 Charles m. Mary Montgomery in Ballinamallard. [ Mary's parents: James & Elizabeth Graham Montgomery.] Charles/Mary had 6 children: 1. Mary Jane & 2. Wm. Charles were sent to Canada at age 15 & 13 to be raised by their uncle James Graham Montgomery & Mrs. Elisabeth Bird. 3. Edward went to Scotland with ‘Lizzie' and served in theQueen's Grays according to family stories. 4. James John (my grandfather) immigrated to America in 1881. 5. Elizabeth Catherine went to Scotland as a Nanny with Edward. Never heard from them again. 6. Robert James stayed in Curran, Ireland. Mary Jane Wamsley married Fred Colman and raised a family in Canada. Charlie moved to Alpena, Michigan. James John married Sarah Atkinson of Ireland and they lived in Chicago. They owned a soap factory and then a neighborhood grocery which today would be located in the center of Chicago on Garfield St. In 1907 James John located his brother and moved his family to Alpena, Michigan in 1910. James John's family: 1. Mary (May) = Geo. Kennedy 2. James - died at birth 3. James Montgomery = Elnorine Vatroba 4. Samuel Edward=Margaret Boals 5. Sarah Ann = Archie Gilburts 6. George Washington - died at 27 7 Pearl Victoria = Harry Plume 8. Robert William (Ted) = Neva Dennis 9. Edna Gladys (Babe) = Jesse Plume ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ]] ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] My paternal grandmother was Hannah Sue Wamsley. Her father was Jefferson Floyd Wamsley, son of William M. Wamsley. This is why I am interested in the family. Chris Straight ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ]] ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] From: djheim@nut-n-but.net (John Heimnick) Wanda - I found this information and thought I would send it along since I saw the family name of Robinson in past Newsletters. From Colonial Families of the Southern States of America Pg. 451: Genealogy # 7-3 Christopher Robinson of Toronto Canada b. Jan. 21, 1828 d. Oct. 31, 1905 K.C. of the Canadian Bar; m. 1879 Elizabeth Street Plumb of Toronto Speaker of the Senate and had issue. (My interest: My father's name was Plumb/Plume and I am researching that also) Chronicles of Scotch-Irish Settlements in VA Vol III - Deed Book #14 Pg. 488 - 18th May 1768. John Wamsley to Wm. Gragg (lb. sign __________) security for going bail, 10 cows, 3 cows, 3 horses. Teste: Henry Erwin, Benj. Harrison. Vol. III Will Book #V. P 247 11th July 1782. John Walmsley's Sr., will - To dau. Elizabeth Robinson: to Thomas Wamsley, David Wamsley, Elizabeth Robinson, To Wm. Wamsley. John, James, Joseph, Mathew, Mary Samuel, Dorcas Wamsley, ea. child to receive their part by succession. Executors sons David Wamsley and McKenny Robinson; son Mathew to have one year's schooling, then bound to learn trade of Taylor; son Samuel to have two yrs. ditto trade, saddler; daus. Mary and Dorcas to be left in care of McKinney Robinson, one year's schooling for Mary and 3 for Dorcas. Teste: Thos. Bland, Margaret (mark) Bland. Proved, 20th August 1782 by Bland and Bennett. Executors qualified. Vol II Chronicles of Scot/Irish Settlements in VA Daniel Smith's Supernumeraries for 1773 Pg. 423-4 Deliquents John Wamsley (4 tithables), gone; Thomas Wamsley, Lodowick Waggoner (2 tithables) Pg. 385 21st March 1786 Wm. Wamsley (Warnsley) (ditto guardian) for Joseph and Mathew Warmsley, ditto of John Warmsley. Pg. 237 Robert Pollard vs Jackson (Judgements) Wm. Wamsley listed as agent of said Breckenridge Welsh Bowyer and Paul (Hugh Paul) Pg 424 Balentine White's list of Delilnquents in 2nd Battalion of Augusta Cty. 1784 Removed Thos. Wamsley, West Fork Vol. I Pg 244 (275) (285)Mar. 21, 1786 Joseph and Mathew Wamsley, orphans of John Wamsley, deceased, chose Wm. Wamsley guardian. Pg 417 March 1800 (A-G) James Cochran vs Wm. Walmsley and C. Bogert--Defendents lived in Randolph Cty. Use whatever you think will help someone else. Dorothy ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ]] ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] Hi Wanda, In researching my Ohio Wamsleys, I came across the following: 1850 Pleasant Township, Putnam, Ohio census (roll 723, p 102/51) James L. Wamsley 46 M Farmer 150 VA Sarah " 35 F O Lydia " 15 F " William " 9 M " James W. " 7 M " Emily " 5 F " Altanius? " 3 M " Marcellus " 9/12 M " 1870 Newman Twp, Douglas, IL census Wamsley, Miner 40 M Blacksmith VA Hope this information helps someone looking for lost Wamsleys from VA. Mary Jane Leenstra ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ]] ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] I have been in touch with Sharon Smith, who is looking for her Wamsley ancestors. She may join our group; meanwhile, she asked me to post a query about Elizabeth WAMSLEY, b 1819 in Braxton County, WV. Elizabeth married Forbes Wright CHIPPS, (b 1819 in Monongalia County, WV). They were married in Lewis County on 12 Aug 1841. Sharon is looking for Elizabeth's date of death and for her parents (father may have been Isaac Wamsley). Can anyone help? Mary Ann Wamsley