Hello all lists, Thank you one and all for your replies. I do appreciate every response and will do my best to to get back to one and all. There was one remark that suggested this should be off-list. I will go with that for now, although I do not totally agree. Would anyone who wishes to carry on this topic please direct it to me off-list. Apologies to list- owners/ administrators etc. I cannot resist a Parthian shot! We are doing it for those who went before, and, more importantly, those who follow us! David