Donna, Thanks so much for your help in the past. Yes, if you have time would you check the 1900, 1910, and 1920 census for William Shelton wife Margrett? I have no idea of his age, when or where he was born or died, so the censuses may help with this. Thanks again, Joyce Glover ---------- >From: Donna DeLeon <dldeleon@ix.netcom.com> >To: WALEWIS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [WALEWIS-L] William Shelton family >Date: Wed, Sep 29, 1999, 4:19 PM > > I have been doing research at the Washington State Library in Olympia. They > have all the WA census on microfilm. Would you like me to look anyone up in the > 1900, 1910, or 1920 census? > > Joyce Glover wrote: > >> Through the generosity of a person on this list, I recently found that >> William Shelton was my great-great grandfather. He was married to Margarett >> Kellar and had at least 2 daughters, Lulu (who first married a Lovell, >> second married Adam Bremer) and Eliza Jane (who was married to Leander >> Ross). They were living in Morton in 1894. Does anyone know anything about >> this family? > > > > ==== WALEWIS Mailing List ==== > Cemetery is one of most commonly misspelled words > in our genealogist's language. CEMETERY, not > Cemetary. > >

. They were credited to "Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists (7th Ed.)," by Frederick Lewis Weis. > adm. - admitted----administrator (of a will) > ae., aet. - aged---age > aft. - after > als. - alias > ante - before; by > app. or appt. - apparently----appointed, appointment > b. - born > bap., bapt. - baptized > bef. - before > betw. - between > bur. - buried > ca. - about (circa) > Cal. - Calendar > cf. - compare > cit. - the work cited (citato) > Co. or co. - county > coh. - co-heir > Coll. - College > cr. - created (as a peer) > d. - died > d.c.c - writ of diem clausit extremum ("he has closed his last day") > d.s.p. - died without issue (sine prole) > d.s.p. legit (not d.s.p.l.) died without legitimate issue > d.s.p.m. - died with male issue > d.v.p. - died during father's lifetime (vita patris) > d.y. - died young > dau. - daughter > dea. - deacon > disp. - dispensation > div. - divorced > dtd. - dated > ff. - following > fl. - flourished or living (only approximate date known) > frm - freeman, a voter in a colony. The date following is the date he > was admitted. > gen(s) - generation(s) > gent. - gentleman > gr. - granted > GS - gravestone > h. - heir (or heiress) > H.C. - Harvard College > husb. - husband > i. - issue > I.P.M.; Inq.p.m. - An inquest held to determine the deceased's land > holding. (Inquisition post mortem, usually dated by "regnal year", > which is expressed, as an example: 3 Hen. 4: 3 Hen IV - Third year of > the reign of Henry IV) (many old dates are given in this manner, > particularly those of the Inq.p.m.) > ibid. - the same > J.P. - Justice of the Peace > j.u. - jure uxoris, right of wife > k. - killed > K.B. - Knight of the Bath > K.G. - Knight of the Garter > K.T. - Knight of the Thistle (Scotland) > knt., kt. - knight > lic. - license > liv. - living > loc. cit. - place cited > m. - married > m. (1); m. (2); m. (3) - married first; married second; third, etc. > M.I. monumental inscription > M.P. - Member of Parliament > matric. - matriculated (entered and recorded at college or university) > ment. - mentioned > Mich. - Michaelmas, the feast of St. Michael (many old dates are given > as of a Saint's feast day, or days preceding or following it.) > ms. - manuscript > N., N.N. - name not known > n.i. - no issue > N.S. or n.s. - new series > nr. - near > ob. - died----obit > occ. - occurs > op. cit. - the work cited above (opere citato) > p.; pp. - page; pages > P.C. - Privy Council > PCC - Prerogative Court of Canterbury > perh. - perhaps > pres. - presumed > pro. - probated or proved (will) > prob. - probably > psh. - parish > pub. - published > purch. - purchased > q.v. - quod vide, which see > ref(s) - reference(s) > regnal year - the date most often used in medieval documents referring > to the number of the year of the reign of the monarch at the time the > document was dated. > Rot. - Roll; Rolls (rotalus). A term used for many types of early > records. > s. - son > s.p. - without issue (see d.s.p.) > sett. - settled > sh. - shortly > suc. - succeeded > succ. - successively > summ. - summoned > suo juris - in his (or her) right > surv. - survived > ult. - ultimo (last) > unkn. - unknown > vol. - volume > wid. - widow > y. - young > yr. - younger > yr(s). - year(s) > yst. - youngest

The wife of Clarence ROSS (by adoption) was Dona Daisy ROBERTS, and she didn't move to Lewis Co until 1901. Her family lived in Morton WA when they 1st came to Lewis Co from W.V. then moved to Glenoma, WA. I would like to find family of Jacob ROBERTS on 1910 Lewis Co WA census, or of the ROSS family on 1900 or 1910 Lewis Co WA census. Also Annette STACY md Wilborn COLEMAN and was living at Glenoma, WA by 1900 I think, at least by 1910. Would like to see a census record of Wilborn & Annette COLEMAN. Rodney Veitschegger, Bowling Green, KY

There had to be a third sister who md a CROTHERS because Clarence ROSS was a CORTHERS by birth, and adopted by his aunt who was a SHELTON md to a ROSS. The 1st name of (James) Clarence CROTHERS' mother is not known to me, but you know that she was a sister to Lulu SHELTON. I haven't been able to find anything on these people in Michigan as yet. Rodney Veitschegger, Bowling Green, KY

I have been doing research at the Washington State Library in Olympia. They have all the WA census on microfilm. Would you like me to look anyone up in the 1900, 1910, or 1920 census? Joyce Glover wrote: > Through the generosity of a person on this list, I recently found that > William Shelton was my great-great grandfather. He was married to Margarett > Kellar and had at least 2 daughters, Lulu (who first married a Lovell, > second married Adam Bremer) and Eliza Jane (who was married to Leander > Ross). They were living in Morton in 1894. Does anyone know anything about > this family?

Okay Maxine, this is correct. I just thought possibly you were saying we could get the whole record from churches or funeral homes. We can if they own the cemetery and therefore hold the Sexton files. Even then I would see if I could find another record someplace of an earlier reading to compare with my own survey and the Sexton files. Each cemetery reading is a unique and separate one, to find what is available. Remember this is the Tombstone or cemetery project, we are not a full information service, but primarily putting out the readings from headstones. We than include Sexton information if we acquire it. Church records would be a whole different form of research, which is being planned when the time allows. Thanks for you info....Maggie At 12:30 PM 9/27/99 -0700, you wrote: >Hi Maggie, >Some times the funeral homes have the old listings of people that may not >have markers any more. Also the churches have members listing when they >had funeral's. I was sent to the catholic church in Tacoma for imfo on an >gr Aunt that wasn't in cem. >A more complete listing could be done with cross referencing of these places >with Cwm collecting. Some graves unmarked could be therefore documented. >Candy in Yelm just contacted me and we'll be getting together about Cem. in >Lewis etc. > >Maxine In Roy Wa mmwaw@sprynet.com >ph. 253 843 2494

Okay Maxine, this is correct. I just thought possibly you were saying we could get the whole record from churches or funeral homes. We can if they own the cemetery and therefore hold the Sexton files. Even then I would see if I could find another record someplace of an earlier reading to compare with my own survey and the Sexton files. Each cemetery reading is a unique and separate one, to find what is available. Remember we are not a lookup service, but primarily putting out the readings from headstones. We than include Sexton information if we acquire it. Church records would be a whole different form of research, which is being planned when the time allows. Thanks for you info....Maggie At 12:30 PM 9/27/99 -0700, you wrote: >Hi Maggie, >Some times the funeral homes have the old listings of people that may not >have markers any more. Also the churches have members listing when they >had funeral's. I was sent to the catholic church in Tacoma for imfo on an >gr Aunt that wasn't in cem. >A more complete listing could be done with cross referencing of these places >with Cwm collecting. Some graves unmarked could be therefore documented. >Candy in Yelm just contacted me and we'll be getting together about Cem. in >Lewis etc. > >Maxine In Roy Wa mmwaw@sprynet.com >ph. 253 843 2494

Hi Maggie, Some times the funeral homes have the old listings of people that may not have markers any more. Also the churches have members listing when they had funeral's. I was sent to the catholic church in Tacoma for imfo on an gr Aunt that wasn't in cem. A more complete listing could be done with cross referencing of these places with Cwm collecting. Some graves unmarked could be therefore documented. Candy in Yelm just contacted me and we'll be getting together about Cem. in Lewis etc. Maxine In Roy Wa mmwaw@sprynet.com ph. 253 843 2494 -----Original Message----- From: Maggie Rail <mrail@pacnw.com> To: WALEWIS-L@rootsweb.com <WALEWIS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, September 25, 1999 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [WALEWIS-L] Cemetery reading >Yes Maxine, > >I am sorry to say, we have not very many taken in >Lewis county. Maybe two. You have to contact Kevin >to be sure as my list is not accurate. For sure I know that >Silver Creek in Randle is taken. > >So decide on one you wish to do and ask one of us if it is >available. > >What exactly do you mean by going to the churches and >funeral homes? Please explain further. > >Maggie > >At 11:09 AM 9/25/99 -0700, you wrote: >> Hi Maggie,Do you have someone in Pierce Co doing cemetery's? >>I could probably help.What about goingto the funeral homes as well? Also >>Churches. >> Maxine in Roy, Wa mmwaw@sprynet.com >> >> >> >>==== WALEWIS Mailing List ==== >>.....So many people settled in Lewis County..... >>Hundreds from the Appalachian Mountains to Eastern >>Lewis County, many from the Midwest, How about yours? >> >> >> > > >==== WALEWIS Mailing List ==== >Don't forget to sign your name. Courtesy counts,even on mail lists. >"OPPORTUNITY is missed by some people because it is dressed in overalls >and looks like work." >

Any suggestions on how Calvin can proceed with his research? I'm at a loss to help him. Thanks! -- Jenny Tenlen >From: "Calvin Porter" <sereno@thegrid.net> >To: <jennyrt@halcyon.com> >Subject: Query >Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 01:21:00 -0700 > > I contacted the researcher and she will get back to me. >I have picked up bits and pieces of this family Story. > > Albert or as my Grandmother has told me was really named Dellbert >Porter. Grace Fredericka Watson my GreatGrandMother Was with Albert before >Nov 5 1911 as this is the Birth Date for my GrandFather Edward Earl Porter . >Albert Porter and Grace Bever being the names on the birth Certificate. >Grace ahving taken her StepFather Last name of Bever. > A Picture taken in 1912 shows all three with a 4th person cut out except >for a partial shoe and leg. the material looks to be the heavy material you >would see in a Ladies skirt of that time period. There is no idea who that >person would be. Edward carried this Picture with him until his death in Dec >8 1939. > Edward was in a Logging accident . He was struck by a widow limb his >partner having gone back to the truck upon returning found him. They say he >should have been dead as soon as it hit him but he lived for Three more days >long enough for the Family to arrive from Oregon to see him. > My Father Melvin Leroy Porter was only a few months old . >Edward did have a daughter from a previous marriage. My Aunt lives here in >the same town as I do but I already know more about her Father then she ever >did. I managed to obtain pictures of Edward that his step Brothers had , >that even my GrandMother or Aunt did not have. > The Picture gives Albert , Graces and Edwards age at the time it was >taken. Albert was in Logging by the boots he is wearing. The rest of the >picture i have described previously. > The researcher emailed me back and said it would be awhile. she thought >it a good idea to look in the 1920 census , but I explained that by then >Albert had left and I was looking for a Porter family in Centralia at that >time as that is where Edward was born. > Grace was born in Porter Washington , North of Centralia . I dont know >where exactly. I have tried for marriage , divorce papers with no >success. To date I have had no response to my Queries. I even tried a >newspaper announcement of Edwards birth but that paper was missing. And >there are way too many Albert Porter,s in Washington at that time to match >them up. > Grace would not talk about Albert , though they tried to ask her about >him. And since she past away in 1954 I was never given a chance to talk to >her. This is my Brick Wall. Surprising since its in the States. My Mothers >side came from Switzerland and a Family Friend from the town they were from >in Switzerland gave me birth , marriage and baptismal records back to the >1600s. > Well you now have as much as I know if you have any suggestions on how I >might break through this Brick Wall I would be most thankful. > > >Calvin Sereno Porter >

Yes Maxine, I am sorry to say, we have not very many taken in Lewis county. Maybe two. You have to contact Kevin to be sure as my list is not accurate. For sure I know that Silver Creek in Randle is taken. So decide on one you wish to do and ask one of us if it is available. What exactly do you mean by going to the churches and funeral homes? Please explain further. Maggie At 11:09 AM 9/25/99 -0700, you wrote: > Hi Maggie,Do you have someone in Pierce Co doing cemetery's? >I could probably help.What about goingto the funeral homes as well? Also >Churches. > Maxine in Roy, Wa mmwaw@sprynet.com > > > >==== WALEWIS Mailing List ==== >.....So many people settled in Lewis County..... >Hundreds from the Appalachian Mountains to Eastern >Lewis County, many from the Midwest, How about yours? > > >

Hi! Just wanted to respond to Sharon's question since it is a good one. I recently joined the Harrodsburg (KY) Historical Society, even though I live in Seattle and it will probably be several years before I can actually afford a trip to Kentucky. I did so because one of my main lines played a big role in the development of central KY (particularly Mercer Co.) and lived there for well over 200 years - still have distant cousins there. Their newsletters alone are worth the price - they always contain transcriptions of original records (Bible, cemetery, deeds, deaths, births, marriages, etc) that have helped in my research. Also, as a member I can have brief questions researched in their library holdings by mail. And when I do eventually get to KY, access to the musuem and library will be free. Finally, through their membership list (which they send to new members) I have found and contacted others researching my line (most of whom do not have internet access) so I have learned valuable information that way. Part of my dues also goes into their historic homes preservation fund - this is important to me because the home my 5th-great grandfather's brother built, and the home my 4th-great grandfather was born in are among the preserved homes. I pay $15/year for this, and feel the money is definitely well-spent. I think before joining any society, though, it is always a good idea to get in touch with current members and find out what benefits they receive - direct benefits, fringe benefits, and otherwise, then weigh the costs of joining. In most cases, society membership is one of the best deals around. Best wishes, Jenny Tenlen jennyrt@halcyon.com >X-Message: #1 >Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 16:18:49 -0600 >From: Sharon Lee Anderson <sla23@email.byu.edu> >To: WALEWIS-L@rootsweb.com >Message-id: <37EBF8C9.69A4@email.byu.edu> >Subject: Re: [WALEWIS-L] Fw: Lewis Co. Genealogical Society >Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > >I have never joined a genealogical society. What are the reasons to do >so---especially if you live outside of the area? I know others do that >in the counties their families are from. Why? Thanks for answering. >Sharon in Provo

Hi Maggie,Do you have someone in Pierce Co doing cemetery's? I could probably help.What about goingto the funeral homes as well? Also Churches. Maxine in Roy, Wa mmwaw@sprynet.com

Hi Listers, I imagine many of you know that I am the assistant to Kevin Fraley on the Washington Cemetery project. This has been a huge undertaking for Kevin. While I help, there is so much he has to do himself without me doing anything except bothering him... which I dearly love to do several times a day, actually you might call it, irritate him. This keeps him on his toes and wishing he had never heard of me, but he might get bored if I stop. Kevin told me once he did not think it was possible to ever get all the cemeteries on line, and we are showing him it really is a possibility. Not this year, but it can happen. We will never have simply everyone up there, but we can have all the cemeteries we can find......up to a certain date....We are actually seeing some counties almost finished.... In 5 counties we have all cemeteries adopted and being worked on, at least we think we do. I do not see us having any one county up on line this year totally, but it will happen soon. This is only possible because we have so many volunteers willing to give of their time to survey the cemeteries, then transcribe their findings and sharing it with us. At the moment I have some things to emphasize.....Check out what Kevin is doing on the page. He has taken on the task of updating all 39 counties, but first he finds out their name and all the aka's - plus he finds out the legal description, Twp, Range and Section for them. To accomplish this he has used about 4 different reference guides plus he takes trips to that county to make sure he is correct......I keep telling him to invite me, but he doesn't. I would like to see all those cemeteries too. He fears Maggie might con him into reading one again.....<g> Seriously, check out this huge undertaking.......He now has 13 finished and is working on Thurston next. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wa/wacem.htm Then you will notice we need workers in Okanogan county bad. I can tell you that Ferry, Stevens, Spokane, Pend Oreille and Walla Walla counties are all adopted unless someone can't fulfill their job, which happened recently with the sudden death of one of our volunteers. You must always check with Kevin first to make sure no one has adopted before you start. This will always be, as we cannot have two people adopting the same one. Yakima, Kittitas, Klickitat, Lincoln & Whitman counties also need more workers.....the other counties are on line with the listings so you can check what they need. I am speaking of Eastern Washington. All of the counties need workers on the west side.....I am told they only get the sun for a month a year, so they will need our help eventually <G>....who can write on paper in the rain....??? Anyone in Washington, wanting to help... contact either me or Kevin. We only have about 2 months left, if that long to go to the cemeteries and survey them. All winter to type them up. Now for you Northern Idaho readers.....I have read a few over there, but do not work on that page. You can check the following URL to see what they need.... http://www.rootsweb.com/~cemetery/idaho.html Then contact Stacey L. Orchard if you wish to adopt. Maggie Rail EWANIDA-listowner

-----Original Message----- From: Maxine Baldwin Westerfield <mmwaw@sprynet.com> To: appleciderking@juno.com <appleciderking@juno.com> Cc: waygin@sprynet.com <waygin@sprynet.com> Date: Saturday, September 25, 1999 8:58 AM Subject: Fw: [INDIANA] Great Photo Site for Sharing >FWD from Maxine Baldwin Westerfield mmwaw@sprynet.com >Hi all my friends and fellow Genealogist's. >I went to this site and think the same as the person who sent it to me. Put >in your Favaoites and when you have use and can send unknown pictures by >scanning you may find other's with same picture, who knows. We meet all >kinds of cousins and friends on E Mail and I have found much gen to help me >find and proof and many willing shareing cousins all over. >ENJOY. >-----Original Message----- >From: Debbie Redmond <DKBAGranny@webtv.net> >To: INDIANA-L@rootsweb.com <INDIANA-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Saturday, September 25, 1999 7:08 AM >Subject: [INDIANA] Great Photo Site for Sharing > > >I am sending this site to each genealogical mailing list I belong to and >to my own personal email addresses because I looked over this site and I >think that it is a great way to share photos that we find and cannot >identify and there are discussion groups that one can join. If I had a >way of scanning pictures I have and cannot identify I would send them to >this website and hope that someone could help identify them. >>http://www.city-gallery.com/< give it a once over and see what you >think. I got it from another list. I think the Ohil list so if it a >repeat for some of you , Sorry, I think it is great Debbie in Illinois > > > > > > > >==== INDIANA Mailing List ==== >A genealogical discussion list for the Indiana Hoosier! > >

I have never joined a genealogical society. What are the reasons to do so---especially if you live outside of the area? I know others do that in the counties their families are from. Why? Thanks for answering. Sharon in Provo John Blair wrote: > > > In reference to the positions and new life to keep the Genealogical > Society > > in tact...you may want to consider becoming a MEMBER..... > > > > Membership runs January through December. $12.00 for single membership > and > > $15.00 per couple. Membership includes a bi-monthly newsletter. We meet > > January-June, September - November at Lewis Co. PUD Auditorium at 345 NW > > Pacific, Chehalis, on the 3rd Tuesday at 7:00 pm. > > > > For Membership send Name, Address, Phone, and E-mail (optional) and mail > to > > : Lewis County Genealogical Society > > PO BOX 782 > > Chehalis, WA. 98632-0782 > > > > ==== WALEWIS Mailing List ==== > .....So many people settled in Lewis County..... > Hundreds from the Appalachian Mountains to Eastern > Lewis County, many from the Midwest, How about yours?

Hello all, Joel GAzis-SAx at <gazissax@best.com>, the listowner of GRAVE-L, is asking that if anyone knows of any really neat epitaphs here in Washington, they let him know. They are for his web site. Andi

You've all been waiting so patiently for the correct Snohomish Pioneer Cemetery burial list. Thanks to Madeline Edgren it is now on-line at http://www.rootsweb.com/~wapsgs/WSCA/snocemburiallist.html . Madeline typed the listing for us and I uploaded it this a.m. Thanks Madeline! Andi

Lewis County Genealogical Sociery has made arangements with the Washington State Archives Southwest Region for Saturday October 9, 1999 to be open for research. The hours are from 9:00am till about 4:00 or 4:30 pm. The Southwest region serves the following counties: Clark, Cowlitz, Grays Harbor, Lewis, Mason, Pacific, Skamania, Thurston and Wahkiakum. Olympia is one of five regional archives in this state and operates under the Office of the Secretary of State. The archives operate under the general records act, RCW 40:14. The other four regional archives are located in Ellensburg, Bellingham, Cheney and Bellevue. Basically the system, which started in the early 1970s, was established to collect, preserve and make available local public records, of lasting historical value, in the region in which they were created. SW (Southwest) has the oldest documentation, reaching back to 1847 (a Lewis County Commissioners record). The archives are also charged with providing records management consultations to public government entities; it is through the records scheduling process that future archival/historical records will largely come into our holdings. The archives are available for post-disaster and disaster prevention consultation. All regional archives offer tours and research services. In addition to the usual requirements of the job, there are other services that are unique to the operation, these include: Opening the doors on selective Saturdays for genealogical groups to undertake intensive research; oral interviewing of individuals who have had a significant impact on local community life; and, the three regional archivists now carry video and 35mm cameras on the road and between official visits record the evolution of Southwest Washington. The SW Regional Archives serves all public entities (including county and city governmental offices, ports, p.u.d.s, fire districts, educational school districts and school districts, health districts as well as diking and water districts). Records stored in the archives which are especially useful for genealogists include: marriage, birth and death records, wills, probate and civil documentation, property records, census data, extensive educational documentation, deeds and mortgages and naturalizations. The Archives are open for research 8:30 to 4:30 daily (and periodically for group research on Saturdays). The Archive staff consists of Lanny Weaver (assistant), Terri Juillerat (customer services specialist) and myself, Wayne Lawson (Regional Archivist). It is best if potential researchers call in advance to schedule their time here; sometimes all three of us are out of the office. My phone number is 360-753-1684. Research is generally handled by either Lanny or Terri at 360-586-4898. Our Fax number is 360-664-8814. These are our basic charges: (1) If we do the research --- $10 minimum or $25 an hour, $0.15 per page copied, $3 mailing and, if needs be, $5 for certification; or (2) if the researcher comes into our archives the only costs would be --- $0.15 per page copied and $5 if certification is needed. The address of the Archives is: Archives & Records Management Division Office of the Secretary of State 1129 Washington Street SE * P.O. Box 40238 Olympia, WA. 98504-0238 The above information was provided by Mr. Wayne Lawson, Regional Archivist Southwest Branch.

LaVonne Sparkman, writer of local history (Lewis County) was the guest speaker at the LCGS on 09-21-99. For those who want to buy her books on: 1. Nowhere to Look But Up (Early settlers of Morton, Mineral, and Bremer areas). 2. From Homestead to Lakebed, Kosmos, The Town That Drowned. 3. Where the Big Bottom Begins (Randle) 4. Before it's Gone, Old Timers Tales. Write to her at: LaVonne Sparkman P.O. Box 15 Morton, WA 98356

John & the rest of the list!, My sincere apologies for not being here tonight,(Lewis Co. Genealogical Society) had 2 emergency situations (well 1 real one) come up....and then got stuck helping a neighbor load a 1 1/2 year old calf that died. Anyways, I'm so sorry I didn't make it and would like to hear from those who did! John