My mother-in-law gave me a copy of the 1985 copy of "The History of Lewis County" tonight. What a great book, and big, too. I will do lookups if anybody needs anything. Carolyn

Thanks Maggie, and I knew this would be a hot topic and "just something to think about"....I have many things that can never be proved!....and usually I notate that if I include information like that......I love the stories in my genealogy and much of that is simply that "stories" but I always include them! Some of us like to speculate, and I find nothing wrong with that as long as notate it! and by the way spring has not been warm here either, in fact we had snow on the ground and on the trees this morning! John

Hi Michelle, John and the rest out there.. While I do not disagree with anyone about the need of PROOF as you say.....I have also found even that can be in error. My father-in-law's gravestone has his name inscribed incorrectly. My own husband's birthdate got changed when he died....in the census my ggrandmother had at least 4 different names until we found the church records in Lindenwerder Posen....and who knows, maybe they are incorrect. So perhaps it is best to have as much as possible to sort it out.... then hope the one you choose to use is correct. I must stay relaxed on this issue and just be aware of all the possibilities my Ole brain will show me. Records are only as accurate as the person who scribed them. And now, look at all the possibility of mistakes with the computer age....each new person typing them in leaves room for error. But it sure is fun and aren't all these researchers just the greatest people on God's good earth? So friendly and helpful..... By the way you guys over there in the middle of the state could start sharing more sunshine over here with us.....enough is enough, it is Spring now.....who cares if winter did not finish, it had it's chance..... Maggie Rail EWANIDA-List owner

John, thanks for sending a copy of that letter. I haven't yet had a chance to read my rootsweb mail newsletter, no time. Anyway.. This is why I never take anything for granted. I consider this the first rule in research -- PROOF PROOF PROOF and MORE PROOF!!! I have received considerable amounts of errors in information people had given me. They do give me a start and once I try documenting with hard copies and if there is a mistake, I let them know so they can have correct documentation as well. I received a gedcom file from someone who has a ton of my ancestors on it. I have found several mistakes so far and yet when I just simply ask him where he received his information on a particular person, his remark was "I don't know" or "my computer crashed and I lost everything." If your computer crashed, you should stlll have 1. documentation, hard copies of your proof and 2. a back up file (always back up, at least monthly unless you work on it a lot then weekly.) I suspect he had not traced any of the information himself and just received it from someone else. I also try documenting every line in my database even with whom I received the information from so I can at least look back at that. Once it is documented their names are replaced with the hard proof. I have a bunch of names in my database. Yes I "collect" names and while I am on a certain line for the year I try to "prove" the line I am working on and hopefully some year get to the other names in my database. That article is very true in form and fact. Not many people get documenation for the names they are researching, they "collect" names. That is not what genealogy is about. There are many people who are just starting out also, as many of us been around for a while we need to remind and help each of those to start doing things properly. Happy Hunting!! Michelle Resarching: Buchanan, Newland, White, Tullis in Lewis County. (1852-1920)

I've also had incidences of the family Bible having one date and the tombstone another. What are you to do? Other similar problems. I'm not sure the "exact" day; is so important as some seem to think. Oh well, I'll get blasted for this.

John Have a not so far fetched question. Lousia Hutchins Blair , son William Blair spouse Ida Fuller. Do you know if Ida had a son from another marriage or out of web lock? On the Chaney side Rosina B. Chaney married Jesse Wiggins. Rosina was the daughter of James H. Chaney and Mary Jane Wright, and my grandmother's sister. They had for all purposes a son named Daniel Herert Wiggings bonr april 1897 mn. only somewhere in something my sister has told me Daniel was really a Fuller. Can you shed some light on this? Mary

Trying to compile all the descendants of the BLAIR family that settled in Lewis Co. from 1898 to 1910. They all came from Meeker & Stearns Co. Minnesota. Louisa Hutchins Blair settled in Ethel around 1898 - early 1900's probably with her son John who remained a batchelor. Son William Blair & Ida Fuller followed with their children, son Benjamin Franklin "Frank" and Emma King came in 1904, and son George & Mary Keesee BLAIR came from NE Washington around 1910. Grandma Louisa & John settled above Salkum as did son William & Ida Blair. Frank settled on Ethel Flat closer to Ony, and George settled in Toledo. Trying to gather as much info as possible on different lines for the compiliation of a book including all our Pike Co., and SW Virginia BLAIR's. Also Annual Blair Picnic will be Aug. 28th, at Lewis & Clark Park from 11:00 to 4:00 with potluck at 1:00.....Haven't had a BLAIR picnic since 1980. A long time! Hope to have an incredible time catching up! John Blair

Worth passing on! John Blair/listowner - >Hello all, >I thought the following letter written to the editors of the Rootsweb >weekly e-mail newsletter was very interesting and thought you all >would be interested. >Lane > >************************************************* >Written by:Charlie Gardes <chasg@ix.netcom.com> >Previously published by RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative, >RootsWeb Review, Vol. 2, No. 14, 7 April 1999. Please visit >RootsWeb's main Web page at <http://www.rootsweb.com/>. > >Hi Laird, I just read the latest RootsWeb Review (Vol. 2, No. 13, >dated 31 March 1999) and saw your response about Myra's article >on privacy and your statement that so many of today's >genealogists DO NOT DOCUMENT their work. Thank you for submitting >these thoughts -- Hooray! > >I have been on several mailing lists on RootsWeb for more than a >year now, and I am absolutely astounded by the apparently >absolute lack of using sound genealogical methods and practices >by these "computer genealogists" of today. I shudder to think >what genealogies our descendants will have to work with in 50 or >100 years when they start using the erroneous pedigrees that >people are now compiling. > >I wonder how many of these new researchers will even some day >realize that they must PROVE their lineage for it to be accurate? >Simply amassing thousands of names from databases and from other >researchers is NOT proof in even the most liberal definition of >the word. You should have seen the number of astounded people on >one mailing list when I posted a response stating that they had >to have proof for every event/ancestor that they downloaded from >a database or received from another researcher. > >Ancestral File, World Family Tree CDs, and the attempts to "make >a connection" through the never-ending posting of Internet >surname queries (e.g.: "My great-grandfather was born on the >moon, do you know which crater?") have harmed, rather than >helped, genealogy because of the error-filled pedigrees people >are creating. Some of these new researchers do not want to be >bothered with research if they cannot sit in front of their >computer monitor, and others will not make the time to educate >themselves about what is acceptable proof and what is not, much >less what is proper methodology. One person even responded to me >that she has been "doing genealogy" for eight months now and >claims she has one of her family lines back to 1609. Hardly. >Unless she was given substantiating data with all the names and >dates and she has verified that data, she only has 300 years of >clues, not 300 years of ancestors. > >On the other hand, thankfully, there are a few folks on each >mailing list who realize that there is more to chasing ancestors >than sitting in front of the computer. They are eager to learn >the correct ways to conduct their research. They realize that >information from secondary sources, databases, and from other >researchers are only CLUES, and not proof of relation. These >people will advance more slowly in the acquisition of ancestors, >but they will have their ancestors and not someone else's. The >following was posted recently on a mailing list and illustrates >this point very well: > > . . . when I started I was excited because within the > first week someone sent me a 14-generation chart on > *supposedly* one of my lines. For more than a year I > took this as gospel, because this guy had quite an > impressive database. Then as I was starting to get proof I > discovered that somewhere between the 3rd and 4th > generation he went off into the wild blue yonder, and > that's where I would still be if I had not started to > investigate myself. I would be chasing someone else's > dreams. That's the best way I could put it, so think > about it folks. Do you want to chase yours or someone > else's? My database is not large, but it is MINE . . . > >In closing, Laird, I wish to again thank you for publishing your >thoughts. If enough of us do so on enough mailing lists, maybe we >can convert at least a few computer genealogists into bona fide >"family researchers." > > Charlie Gardes <chasg@ix.netcom.com> > > > >_______________________________________________________________ >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > > >==== BLAIR-JACOB Mailing List ==== >The Blair's of Pike Co., Dickenson, Buchanan, and Russell Co. > and all their descendants, what an AWESOME Bunch!

There are Meades still here in Randle I think the Dads name was Ben Meade I knew Keenese Meade also Wallace Meade he still is in Randle. I dont know what the Bens Wife name was. But he was pretty old when he passed away. -----Original Message----- From: Rdvsr@aol.com <Rdvsr@aol.com> To: WALEWIS-L@rootsweb.com <WALEWIS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, March 21, 1999 6:01 AM Subject: Re: [WALEWIS-L] Mead(e) >Don't know any more about MEADE family, however, you are bringing up memories. >My Mother, Virginia ROBERTS Veitschegger, was born at "Verndale" now Glenoma, >in Rainey Valley, in 1903. Surely the family was acquainted with MEAD >family. There was a MEADE family in Floyd Co KY that I'm acquainted with. >Some JOHNSON's married into it, and I think CAUDILL's also. >Mother said it took 4 days to get from Chehalis to Verndale by wagon. The >roads were cordoroy and they had to raft across the river. Now it takes >about 40 minutes to drive it. Mother's family went from McDowell/Wyoming Co >WV to Lewis Co, WA in 1901 with 10 children, had 3 more in WA. >Jacob's cousin, Annie COLEMAN, ran a store at Glenoma for many years. (I >think it was the only business in the "town"!) > > >Rodney D. Veitschegger Bowling Green, KY > > >==== WALEWIS Mailing List ==== >Whose TREE are you climbing? Have a GREAT DAY! > .......John Blair.....Listowner/jblair@kalama.com > >

Hello Everyone We have added 22 new 1600's ancestors and included their children on the Ancestor Roll of Honor on America's First Families web site at; http://www.linkline.com/personal/xymox/ When you enter the site, scroll down to near the bottom of the page where the Ancestor Roll of Honor is located. On the same page you will also find a link to the 1600's Ancestor Data Base that contains over 14,000 names of proven ancestors from that era. Enjoy Harold Oliver Director

I'm reposting this in hopes that someone new has joined the list and might have infor: Looking for information on my Lewis county families. Margaret or Marggaret WRIGHT, daughter of Joseph Andrew "Andy" WRIGHT and mother's surname may have been DOAN. Margaret b: April 4,1877 married Lemuel MALEY (son of Elizabeth SCHMITT COX MALEY) m:July 08, 1894 at JA Wright's home, I believe in Chehalis. Found Lewis Co. marriage certificate for Margaret (Maggie R.) & Lemuel in Chehalis court house. Margaret and Lemuel had 7 children, 5 of them born in Winlock, Napavine & Chehalis area Also looking for information on Elizabeth SCHMITT COX MALEY b:December 5,1836 in Georgia d:May 18, 1906 maybe in Vancouver, WA, but buried in the Napavine, WA cemetery, at least we found a head stone that we believe to be hers. Elizabeth first married COX and had at least 1 child named Will Cox. Will Cox had 3 children, believe their names were Ollie Cox, Oscar Cox & Elizabeth (Liza) COX KIRKLAND . Second marriage was to Joseph Edwin MALEY m: 1862 in Arkansas. Believe Elizabeth b: 1836 and her children including Will COX moved back to Washington after 1880. I haven't been able to find any thing on Elizabeth SCHMITT COX MALEY siblings or ancestor or on Joseph Andrew "Andy" WRIGHT . I understand that there are still WRIGHT'S AND SCHMITT'S living in the area that are related. Would appreciate any help. Thank You Carol

Karl, My grandfather lived on the east side of town near a small creek (late 50's to mid 60's).. We used to fish that creek and got some good trout and Salmon there. There was a doctor who lived across the street from my grandfather's place. We used to run around town with his kids, can't remember his name though. My uncle lived in Kosmos and had to move when they put in Mossey Rock dam. Spent a lot of time down by the bridge swimming, don't know how we could stand the ice cold water, but I guess kids do not have any felling of hot ort cold when they can swim. Next time I get home to Washington I think it will be time to see Morton once again. Nice chatting with you. Mikie :-) KARL STINSON wrote: > Michael, > > I don't remember your grandfather. Where did he live in Morton. I grew up > in an area called "Little Aberdeen". It was a mile or so out of town down > the Bear Canyon Highway. We may have run into each other a few times, > especially if you were down at the bridge swimming. I can't remember > missing too many days swimming in that cold water. My dad was a local > banker for many years, but died a few years ago. My Mom still lives in > Morton. > Talk to you later. > > Karl Stinson > Lamesa, TX > > -----Original Message----- > From: Micheal R. Frichette > Sent: Sunday, April 04, 1999 7:50 AM > To: WALEWIS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WALEWIS-L] Stories and anecdotes > > Karl, > > My grandfather lived in Morton and we used to visit him quite often. His > name > was William (Bill) Frichette, I can remember many days down at the river > swimming and wandering around the town. A great place for a kid to grow up > in. > > Mike Frichette > > KARL STINSON wrote: > > > Jenny, > > > > Thanks for all of your work on the NET. Who were your grandparents who > > lived in Morton? I grew up in Morton. My father, Warren Stinson was born > > in Riffe. His father was George Floyd, son of James. James and his > family > > came to Lewis County with the Riffes, Workmans and others from Greenbrier, > > West Virginia. Most of the Stinsons came from Russell County (now > > Buchanan Co.) VA. Does a list of those hardy folks who came together to > > Lewis County in September, 1893 exist?? > > > > Karl Stinson > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jenny Tenlen > > Sent: Saturday, March 27, 1999 5:17 PM > > To: WALEWIS-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [WALEWIS-L] Stories and anecdotes > > > > Hi, again! > > > > I mentioned how much I enjoyed reading the stories that have been posted - > > brings to mind many my grandparents (who lived in Morton for 43 years) > told > > me. I've saved all of those messages, and now am wondering, is there any > > interest in seeing these messages posted on the Lewis County GenWeb? I'm > > thinking about starting a "Reminisces" page where these stories could be > > posted and enjoyed by others not on the list. Of course, I would post > > stories only with the permission of the original poster. Please let me > > know what you think. > > > > Thank you! > > > > Jenny Tenlen > > Lewis County GenWeb coord. > > jennyrt@halcyon.com > > http://www.halcyon.com/jennyrt/walewis/walewis.html > > > > ==== WALEWIS Mailing List ==== > > LEWIS COUNTY, WASHINGTON. One of the most beautiful > > places on the face of the earth. Trees everywhere, > > green, rivers, creeks, No Place like Home! > > > > ==== WALEWIS Mailing List ==== > > Don't forget to sign your name. Courtesy counts,even on mail lists. > > "OPPORTUNITY is missed by some people because it is dressed in overalls > > and looks like work." > > ==== WALEWIS Mailing List ==== > Whose TREE are you climbing? Have a GREAT DAY! > .......John Blair.....Listowner/jblair@kalama.com > > ==== WALEWIS Mailing List ==== > LEWIS COUNTY, WASHINGTON. One of the most beautiful > places on the face of the earth. Trees everywhere, > green, rivers, creeks, No Place like Home!

West of Morton, I think towards Bremer was a small dam on the Tilton. We used to catch salmon with a forked stick there. In the misty past.

Dear All, Want to encourage everyone to go ahead and re-post, there are now 67 people subscribed to the list! Am encouraged by the incredible willingness to help each other! Genealogist's are a great group! ..........and in the last conversation or two about Morton, I remember in the year 1976 my brother and me and 2 of my nephews floating down the Tilton River from Bremer to Ike Kinswa, something I would never ever do again!...Closest call I ever came to drowning, glad I survived! ......and the incredible Bear Canyon Bridge....An Ony Boy, your listowner, John Blair/ jblair@kalama.com

Michael, I don't remember your grandfather. Where did he live in Morton. I grew up in an area called "Little Aberdeen". It was a mile or so out of town down the Bear Canyon Highway. We may have run into each other a few times, especially if you were down at the bridge swimming. I can't remember missing too many days swimming in that cold water. My dad was a local banker for many years, but died a few years ago. My Mom still lives in Morton. Talk to you later. Karl Stinson Lamesa, TX -----Original Message----- From: Micheal R. Frichette Sent: Sunday, April 04, 1999 7:50 AM To: WALEWIS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WALEWIS-L] Stories and anecdotes Karl, My grandfather lived in Morton and we used to visit him quite often. His name was William (Bill) Frichette, I can remember many days down at the river swimming and wandering around the town. A great place for a kid to grow up in. Mike Frichette KARL STINSON wrote: > Jenny, > > Thanks for all of your work on the NET. Who were your grandparents who > lived in Morton? I grew up in Morton. My father, Warren Stinson was born > in Riffe. His father was George Floyd, son of James. James and his family > came to Lewis County with the Riffes, Workmans and others from Greenbrier, > West Virginia. Most of the Stinsons came from Russell County (now > Buchanan Co.) VA. Does a list of those hardy folks who came together to > Lewis County in September, 1893 exist?? > > Karl Stinson > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jenny Tenlen > Sent: Saturday, March 27, 1999 5:17 PM > To: WALEWIS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WALEWIS-L] Stories and anecdotes > > Hi, again! > > I mentioned how much I enjoyed reading the stories that have been posted - > brings to mind many my grandparents (who lived in Morton for 43 years) told > me. I've saved all of those messages, and now am wondering, is there any > interest in seeing these messages posted on the Lewis County GenWeb? I'm > thinking about starting a "Reminisces" page where these stories could be > posted and enjoyed by others not on the list. Of course, I would post > stories only with the permission of the original poster. Please let me > know what you think. > > Thank you! > > Jenny Tenlen > Lewis County GenWeb coord. > jennyrt@halcyon.com > http://www.halcyon.com/jennyrt/walewis/walewis.html > > ==== WALEWIS Mailing List ==== > LEWIS COUNTY, WASHINGTON. One of the most beautiful > places on the face of the earth. Trees everywhere, > green, rivers, creeks, No Place like Home! > > ==== WALEWIS Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to sign your name. Courtesy counts,even on mail lists. > "OPPORTUNITY is missed by some people because it is dressed in overalls > and looks like work." ==== WALEWIS Mailing List ==== Whose TREE are you climbing? Have a GREAT DAY! .......John Blair.....Listowner/jblair@kalama.com

I grew up in Morton...it was wonderful place. Almost heaven~~~ Rodney V

Karl, My grandfather lived in Morton and we used to visit him quite often. His name was William (Bill) Frichette, I can remember many days down at the river swimming and wandering around the town. A great place for a kid to grow up in. Mike Frichette KARL STINSON wrote: > Jenny, > > Thanks for all of your work on the NET. Who were your grandparents who > lived in Morton? I grew up in Morton. My father, Warren Stinson was born > in Riffe. His father was George Floyd, son of James. James and his family > came to Lewis County with the Riffes, Workmans and others from Greenbrier, > West Virginia. Most of the Stinsons came from Russell County (now > Buchanan Co.) VA. Does a list of those hardy folks who came together to > Lewis County in September, 1893 exist?? > > Karl Stinson > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jenny Tenlen > Sent: Saturday, March 27, 1999 5:17 PM > To: WALEWIS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WALEWIS-L] Stories and anecdotes > > Hi, again! > > I mentioned how much I enjoyed reading the stories that have been posted - > brings to mind many my grandparents (who lived in Morton for 43 years) told > me. I've saved all of those messages, and now am wondering, is there any > interest in seeing these messages posted on the Lewis County GenWeb? I'm > thinking about starting a "Reminisces" page where these stories could be > posted and enjoyed by others not on the list. Of course, I would post > stories only with the permission of the original poster. Please let me > know what you think. > > Thank you! > > Jenny Tenlen > Lewis County GenWeb coord. > jennyrt@halcyon.com > http://www.halcyon.com/jennyrt/walewis/walewis.html > > ==== WALEWIS Mailing List ==== > LEWIS COUNTY, WASHINGTON. One of the most beautiful > places on the face of the earth. Trees everywhere, > green, rivers, creeks, No Place like Home! > > ==== WALEWIS Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to sign your name. Courtesy counts,even on mail lists. > "OPPORTUNITY is missed by some people because it is dressed in overalls > and looks like work."

Have you traced your STINSON family? One of my ancestors is a STINSON married James BAILEY, Sr. One of his sons also md a STINSON in RUssell Co area of VA Rodney D. Veitschegger

Jenny, Thanks for all of your work on the NET. Who were your grandparents who lived in Morton? I grew up in Morton. My father, Warren Stinson was born in Riffe. His father was George Floyd, son of James. James and his family came to Lewis County with the Riffes, Workmans and others from Greenbrier, West Virginia. Most of the Stinsons came from Russell County (now Buchanan Co.) VA. Does a list of those hardy folks who came together to Lewis County in September, 1893 exist?? Karl Stinson -----Original Message----- From: Jenny Tenlen Sent: Saturday, March 27, 1999 5:17 PM To: WALEWIS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WALEWIS-L] Stories and anecdotes Hi, again! I mentioned how much I enjoyed reading the stories that have been posted - brings to mind many my grandparents (who lived in Morton for 43 years) told me. I've saved all of those messages, and now am wondering, is there any interest in seeing these messages posted on the Lewis County GenWeb? I'm thinking about starting a "Reminisces" page where these stories could be posted and enjoyed by others not on the list. Of course, I would post stories only with the permission of the original poster. Please let me know what you think. Thank you! Jenny Tenlen Lewis County GenWeb coord. jennyrt@halcyon.com http://www.halcyon.com/jennyrt/walewis/walewis.html ==== WALEWIS Mailing List ==== LEWIS COUNTY, WASHINGTON. One of the most beautiful places on the face of the earth. Trees everywhere, green, rivers, creeks, No Place like Home!

Hello List, I have an biography from the " History of Lewis Co. Wash" printed in 1985. and it contains a picture of My Great grandmother , ELIZABETH HILL who mar my Gr grandfather WESSON BALDWIN in 1835 in NEW YORK. Don't know if N Y City or Co. WESSON BALDWIN was born 1817 in N Y so was several Brothers , WILLIAM unmarried, and WALTER b in 1830 N Y, who also came to Lewis Co. Wa. There were abt 8/9 ch came with them and my grapa was the youngest being b 1862/3 in Cedarvale Kansas. A Sister , (Dau 0f Wesson), LORRETTA mar in Ks to Louis AMRINE, and had dau. Margaret Dorothy whom my dad called as well as others," DOLLY" who d in Tacoma in mid 1900's She was b in 1889 Cedarvale Kansas also. I am looking for the descendant cousin who is a descendant of my granpa PADEN COX ( PERRY or PADE) Baldwin's brother , Ransom Baldwin. He came with wife LILLIAN, ( LIBBY) and dau LIDA BALDWIN 11 yrs old to Toledo in 1879. Lida grew up and mar a Mullins. There is also a Picture Of LILLIAN and LIDA in the book. If you are a descendant or know of this family and where some descendants may be I would like you to contact me. The writer of the page 73 article "BALDWIN FAMILY " is a cousin and I would like to share and exchange Gen and pictures. I was in Toledo while Rant Mullins was living in his house abt 1983/4 and visited with him. I have a tape with him talking. about the family. I have tried to locate who this was but since they sent all imfo back to donaters and didn't keep the names of all who sent Bio's in, I am unable to do this. Thank you , Maxine Baldwin Wilton, P O Box 177 Roy, Wa 98580 mmwaw@sprynet.com