Hello. Very warm here, and devastating bush-fires in New South Wales in a very much built-up area near and in the Blue Mountains. Lots of homes burnt down. Bush fires here in summer are something you live with, generally expecting them, but this one looks like being a black Friday and Saturday all rolled into one. Dreadful loss, but people get right up and start all over again. Amazing fortitude humans have! Probably just as well that the lists are quiet. My messages won't take up too much room then! Ruby Ahazie in Houston (good old lone star state of Texas) on <Rubi2341@aol.com> was looking for HUMPHREY folk at St. ASAPH, told by a researcher that the records should be in St. Asaph parish. Well, Ruby I looked, given the dates you gave me up to 1749 (the volume that covers baptisms 1750-80 seems to be missing) but they were not listed on any of the pages. There were some Humphrey folk, all right, but not the ones you wanted. Is it possible they were at a parish close by? Then again, I am thinking "did your researcher mean St. Asaph Diocese, and not parish???" I think you need to go back and ask. Other parishes close by might be of use (not sure if we have them here in Melbourne) - Prestatyn, Rhuddlan, Abergele, even Denbigh, and smaller towns out of St. Asaph such as Tremeirchion, Bodfari, Trefnant, Dysert, but I think you should check with the researcher first. She/he obviously wasn't a Texas Ranger! Here's a little bit of excitement for Susan Evans Shaw on <susan@nas.net> Susan was interested in Ellerdine, Shropshire, apart from the Hodnet Ash folk, also High Ercall. During a lull in my proceedings, waiting for other books to come down, I checked where Ellerdine (or Ellardine) was and noted parishes in the close vicinity. Look what I found. This gives some juicy meat to the bare bones. WATERS UPTON parish: p7. 20 Sep 1590 Ales d/o William Ashe and Anes christened per me Rogeru' Lowe p16. 9 Dec 1621 Marjory d/o William Ashe of Ellardyne, husbandman, and Janne christened (one has to watch when looking at these transcriptions, that confusion does not arise between Anne and Janne because of terrible writing and poor viewing of records due to water damage, etc. In my experience these names would look much the same as each other.) p64. 14 Apr 1794 John s/o William and Elizabeth Ash, Ellardine Heath, baptized privly. GREAT BOLAS parish: p7. 14 Jun 1600 Simond s.o Simond Ashe baptized p8. 19 Feb 1601 Elizabeth wife of Simonde Ash buried p19. 14 Jan 1621 Elizabeth Ash of Meeson buried p81. 4 Feb 1713 Roger Sydes and Eleanor Ash married after Canonicall Publication of Bans (sic) p101. 29 Jul 1751 Francis Salisbury and Elizabeth Ash married by Lic. TIBBERTON parish p1 21 August 1720 Sarah d/o Abraham Ash and Elizabeth of p. Child's Ercall baptized EDGMOND parish p17. 5 Apr 1696 Martha illeg. child of Henery Bold and Sarah Ash, marr (probably meant baptized - was it the blueberry wine at work? Very naughty, but forgiving.) p52. 27 Nov 1697 Martha Ashe a base child buried p116. 1 Jul 1787 William s/o William and Margaret Ash of Newport baptized Moe Chaplin's WOOLHAMS of Wem figure next. Moe, there are just too many EDGE folk in the registers you suggested I look in - it would take all day and all night to simply write down one lot of them. Impossible. But look at the little Edge's further below in EDSTASTON - very few but very close to WEM parish. Obviously connected. WEM parish: p587 25 Jan 1774 John base s.o Mary Woolam baptized p600. Ann d/o Thomas and Ann Woolam of Edstaston p612. 12 Apr 1789 Benjamin s/o Richard and Ann Woolam baptized p622. 17 Feb 1793 Thomas s/o Richard Woolham, a carpenter of this town, baptized p630. 8 Nov 1795 William s/o Thomas Wollam of Edstaston and Ann baptized p635. 24 Sept 1797 Jane d/o Thomas Wollam of Edstaston and Ann baptized p638. 14? Oct 1798 Mary d/o Richard Woollam, a sawyer and Ann baptized p640. 21 Jul 1799 Betty [written very large] d/o Richard Wolam and Ann baptized (must have been a beautiful child! Perhaps the minster was an uncle?) p737 30 Dec 1777 Thomas Price and Jane Woolam married. Wit. Timy Parker & Wm. Parker by Lic. p743. 8 Feb 1783 Richard woollam and ann Robinson married. Wit. Wm. Parker & Thos. Howard p751. 1 Jul 1789 John Woolam and Hannah Stephenton (sic) married. Wit. Richard Wycherley and Francis Owen. (Francis Owen seems to be a churchwarden or a verger). p764. 28 May 1802. Benjamin Woolom [or Woolam] and Sarah Austin married. Wit. John Rutter and Francis Owen. p767. 3 Feb 1806 Charles Woolham and Esther Jones married by Edwd. Tucker Steward, rector. Wit. Hugh Woolham and Francis Owen. p771. 29 Dec 1808. William Hayward and Sarah Wollam married. Wit. Thos. Wollam and Francis Owen p792. 14 Apr 1805 Mary d/o Benjamin Wollam, sawyer, and Sarah, baptized EDSTASTON p50. 11 Jun 1779 Benjamin Wolum of Edstaston buried p52. 7 Dec 1783 John s/o Richard and Ann Wollum of Edstaston baptized p53. 26 Sep 1784. Sarah d/o Thomas & Ann Wollum of Edstaston baptized p56. 10 Dec 1786. Catherine - as above p60. 7 Dec 1788 Thomas - as above p61. 17 Apr 1795 Elizabeth - as above - buried (some pages in the volume are out of sync. See below. Blueberry wine again! Someone will try and tell me it was only dark grapejuice as is served at non-conformist communions, BUT certainly not at Anglican parishes!) p62 27 Jan 1796 William - as above - baptized p64. 14 Dec 1798 (sic) Robert - as above p65. 30 Jun 1793 (sic) Mary - as above p66 14 Sept 1794 (sic) Elizabeth - as above p69. 1 Nov 1801 William - as above p71. 31 Jul 1803 Anne d/o Benjamin & Mary Woolam of Aston, baptized p71. 20 May 1810 Thomas s/o Benhjamin and Sarah Woolam of Aston buried p71 Sarah w/o Benjamin Woolam of Aston, buried. (I missed the date, but it will be 1810) EDSTASTON continued p2 30 Jun 1713 Jane Edge buried p39 6 Mar 1763 John s/o John Edge and Elizabeth of Cotton baptized p63. 24 Aug 1797 Elizabeth d/o William and Sarah Edge of Cotton Wood buried Ernie Careswell was looking for CARESWELL families at various places. Ernie is found on <carrenaus@yahoo.com.au>. Ernie is wheelchair bound, so this makes it a delight to present him with this. If I had a bottle of blueberry wine, I'd present that too. PONTESBURY, Salop. I found this very interesting, mainly due to the changing of the name structure. p111. folio 123. 6 Jun 1624. Stephanus f. Roberti et Marie Caswell baptized p121. folio 136. 14 Feb 1629. Margaret Carswell f. Roberti et Marie baptized p125. folio 140. 8 Dec 1632. Guiliemus f. Robertie Casuall baptized p162. folio 172. 5 Apr 1655. Robert Caswell buried p181. folio 188. 20 Dec 1666. Stephanus f. Stephani Caswall nat. (obviously an illegitimate child baptized. "nat" is not shown in the preface to the registers as an explanation as is f = filia, filias, obviously they preferred to keep it a little quiet, but it means the natural born, which in those days really meant base born and definitely belonging to the parent so named in the register.) p185. 8 Jun 1669 Richard Hodgkis et Margareta Caswell nup p191. 6 Oct 1673 Margaretta f. Steeven Ca..... [illegible] nat (but probably would be Caswell, and another base born child. Oh ssshhh!) p224. 29 Mar 1695. Stephenus f. Thomas and Annae Caswell baptized p232 13 Sep 1699. Margareta f. Thomae and Annae Caswell baptized p233. 5 Nov 1699 Gulielmus Williams and Jocosa Casewell nup (Index shows her as Joy) p242. 28 Nov 1704. Margarett Casall pauper buried p248. 16 Dec 1707. Stephen Casewell (the one mentioned above, p191??) buried p318. 14 Jun 1741. Thomas Casewell buried p351. 6 Apr 1755. Mary d/o John & Ann Casewell baptized p356. 5 Oct 1757. Robert - as above p373. 9 Oct 1765. William - as above p393. 12 Jun 1774. Ann Caisdal buried p398. 9 Mar 1777 Mary d/o Thomas & Anne Caswell baptized p409. 5 May 1782. Anne d/o Robert & Anne Caswell baptized p418. 3 Oct 1784. Thos. as above p421. 24 Jul 1785. Thos. s/o thomas and Sarah Casewell baptized p424. 24 Dec 1786. Richd. s/o Robert and Anne Casewell baptized p426. 4 Nov 1787. Willm. s/o Thomas and Sarah Caiswell baptized p431. 7 Jun 1789. John s/o William and Mary Casewell baptized p433. 18 Apr 1790. John s/o Thomas and Sarah Casewell baptized p437. 18 Dec 1791. Rebecca d/o William and Anne Caisewell baptized p444. 9 Mar 1794. Mary d/o Robert and Anne Caiswell baptized p449. 31 Jan 1796. Eleanor d/o Robert and Ann Caiswell baptized p451. 7 Aug 1796. Richd. Caiswell buried p453. 6 Aug 1797. James s/o Thomas and Sarah Caiswell baptized p469. 15 May 1803. Lydia d/o William and Mary Caiswell baptized p474. 18 Jul 1805. Thos. Caiswell buried p474. 28 Nov 1805. Lydia Caiswell buried p479. 5 May 1807. Ann Caiswell buried p486. 18 Mar 1810. Thos. Caiswell buried p506. 2 Aug 1779. William Lewis and Mary Caswell married p507. 22 Jul 1781. Robert Caisdell and Anne Bostock married by Thos. Mills, minister p508. 28 Jul 1783. John Giles and Hannah Casewell married by Thos. Mills, minister p509. 22 Nov 1787. Wm. Casewell and Mary Whitefoot married, by Thos. Mills, minister p510. 28 Apr 1788. William Caiswell and Mary Hotchkis married by Daniel Williams END - no more entries in register up to 1812. Allan Clarke in cold and breezy Canada, probably snowing elephants there at the moment, wanted a marriage at Montford. Alan, you really do need a bottle of blueberry wine to warm you up. Here it is, Alan - lucky guy! I am sure you will treasure this! MONTFORD parish: p44. Richard Botevyle, St. Chad's p. Salop and Martha Clarke, of Downton p. Upton Magna, were married (I'll look for him in St. Chad's tomorrow, Alan. Regret, don't have Upton Magna registers.) A NOTE FOR LEONA GREEN at Springfield, Missouri. Leona, need to be more specific with your Green folk. Can you give me some time data and a district where they were "last seen!", and if the Benjamin, Edward, and Charles are brothers, or what? So far, looking at all the registers gleaned, no matches, but there's always hope! Give me more information! Valerie Downes on <val.downes@btinternet.com> wanted info re. a Thomas DOWNES or DOWNS, Stanton Lacey parish baptized around 1760. You have won the jackpot, Val, as there is only one Thomas in the register. You'd better take a ticket in a lottery, having got this one! STANTON LACEY parish: p160. 6 Jan 1762. Thos. ye s/o John Downs and Bridget Overton baptized . But, you also have a very intrigueing situation, as shown with the following entries: p162. 4 Mar 1764. Elizabeth d/o John Downs and Bridget Overton baptized p164. 31 Aug 1766. George s/o Bridget Overton, illeg. baptized p166. 22 Jan 1769. Edward illeg s/o Bridget Overton and Jno Downs baptized p168. 12 Oct 1770. John Downs buried. Then going back in time to: p151. 14 Mar 1749. Benjamin s/o John Downs & Mary baptized p148. 13 May 1746. John s/o John Downs and Mary baptized p146. 25 Nov 1744. Sarah d/o John Downs and Mary baptized p144. 27 Jun 1742. Henry - as above p141. 27 Jan 1739. Elizabeth - as above p140. John Downs shown as a churchwarden p139. 18 Mar 1737. Mary d/o John Downes and Mary baptized (no baptism for the elder John Downs in this parish) Checking on Bridget Overton, we also find; p157. 7 Jul 1759. Ann ye d/o Bridget Overton, illeg. baptized But no other entries at Stanton Lacey for Bridget Overton, the rosy-cheeked girl. However, at Bitterley, close by, we find: 4 Nov 1732. Bridget, d/o John Overton et Annae, baptized. (Is this the naughty one?) Also in Bitterley registers: p103. 7 Jan 1755. William s/o Thomas Downes and Martha baptized p109. Sam'l Downes shown as churchwarden p193. 9 Jun 1807. Elizabeth, d/o Benjamin Downes and Elizabeth, christened That's all for today. I have the St. Chad, Shrewsbury, registers waiting for me tomorrow first thing. Also am hoping to get hold of all the regs for High Ercall - there are six volumes, so that could be a problem. They may let me have the whole lot at once if I cry and carry on, perhaps, or jump up and down like one of my hairy ancestors. For those who are still interested in the non-conformist and Roman Catholic registers - these are on fiche, but that is more difficult. Much easier for research to get the book down, if they will let me! Also, will be again looking at Ludlow and Myddle within the week, where I ran out of time, for those who missed out. Have a lovely day Graham