Happy New Year, everyone! Well it will be here in Melbourne in a couple of hours. Very interesting to see queries that have come from Clwyd, Powys and Wales-Gen lists in relation to the subject of this message. Just goes to show lots of Welsh folk have ties in Salop. Now, I must add a little caution here. Not any use emailing re. Shropshire look-ups if your folk were born after 1812, as this is when the copies here in book form finish. Same with marriages, except for the very few parishes as: Great Ness (1837) High Ercall (1837) Hope Bagot (1837) Preston Gobolds (1837) Stokesay (1837) Weston under Redcastle (1837) and Winstanston (1837). Of course, the non-conformists and the catholics generally go to 1834-37. But most non-conformists only commence around 1798-1802. Some of these chapels have listings for three or four pages only, one great exception is Wem Independent Chapel. Again, where I have looked up the registers, you will find in a number of cases that these books have gone back upstairs to the stack, and will then be diverted to another section of the library to be re shrink-wrapped, because of their deteriorating condition. This means that they will not be available again for over a week and possibly ten days or so. Also, requests for these books are taking up to 40 minutes retrieval in the holiday period, so not many can be got down in one day. Having said all of that and made you depressed, here is some joy, with a few negatives hidden in between: Continuing on with HIGH ERCALL parish: Early pages are missing. Some interesting notes about High Ercall were in the preface: The church was originally dedicated to St. Edward theconfessor, but is now dedicated to St. Michael and All Angels. There is now no ancient church plate. A silverchalice of 1690 was melted down into a modern form. A ciborium or alm's dish is dated 1747, and the flagon is of late 18th century workmanship. In a religious census taken in 1676 there were 304 conformists, 7 non-conformists, and no papists. Mal Hale on <mjhale.art@virgin.net> continues looking for Grice. p166 11 May 1664 (How's your latin Mat?) Richardus Grist, de Rowton, aetat. provectus decimon die Maijab hoc mundo migravit, dieque sequenti sepliebat ur. p195 20 Feb 1675 Richardus Griste de Rowton sep. (only the two entries of "Griste", Mat) The following are first names your were looking for. (No Richard's) p406. 24 Aug 1741 Beatrice d/o Rich. Grice of the Copy, t. of Roden baptized (perhaps it should read of the Coppice, Roden!) p467. 25 Jan 1763 Beaterage Grice, from Haughton buried p493. 7 Dec 1770 Martha d/o Beatrice Grice of Roden Coppice baptized p516. 10 Feb 1779 Beterage Grice from the workhouse, buried Justine Orme on <ormefam@xtra.co.nz> was looking for Vaughans. p228. 21 Apr 1681 Maria f. Richardi Vaughan de Rodington, et Maria baptized p307. Johannes f. Johannis Vaughan et Marie, sepultus est. fuit Incola de Waters Upton (I know - don't ask me!!! I thought Incola might have something to do with Fowlers Vacola, the bottling people - well, Waters... you know!!!) p344. 6 Oct 1720 William Grove and Anne Vaugan (sic) from Little Witheford in p. Shawbury wed p627. 4 Jan 1773 John Vaughan and Elizabeth Jones. Wit: Thos. Tayler and F.S. p647. 24 Jul 1796 Robert Kirby and Sarah Vaughan. Wit. J.P. and Jno Vaughan p651. 26 Jul 1801 William Espley and Eleanor Vaughan. Wit: Richd. Hicklin, J.P. and Charlotte Skitt. p664. 14 Apr 1817. Thomas Whifield and Eleanor Millington married. Wit. John Vaughan and William Blakemore p667. 14 Nov 1820 George Ball and Letia Upton married. Wit. Samuel Vaughn (sic) and Sarah Morris p668. 28 Dec 1821 John Grant and Mary Davies married. Wit: John Owen and Ann Vaughan p671. 18 Dec 1824 Samuel Lowe and Elizabeth Vaughan married. Wit: John Madeley and Margaret Picken p672. 9 Aug 1825 Abraham Jones and Ann Vaughan married. Wit: Samuel Vaughan and Hannah Jones. Allan Clarke on <oldguyal@dccmet.com> wanted any Gravener/Grosvenor, etc. p144. 1 Nov 1654 The Intencon (intention) of matrimony betweene Samuell Freeman, of Isombridge in ye parish of High Ercall, on ye one p'te, and Dorothy Grovnor of the town and parish of Rodington, on the other p'te, was published 3 sev'all Llord's dayes and noe exception being made ag'st yet Intencon, they were pronounced husband and wife ye second of January, by CRESWELL TAYLEUR. (and now we can all breath a sigh of relief!) p167. 28 Mar 1665 Guiliemus f. Guliemi Gravener de Haughton, sep. p175. 28 May 1668 Martha f. Gulielmi Gravener de Haughton, et Marthae bap. p181. 29 Jul 1670 Elizabetha f. Guilelmi Grovesner de Haughton, et Marthae bap. p187. 20 Mar 1672 Guilielmus f. Guilielmi Grosvenor bap. p189. 14 Nov 1673 Guilielmus f. Guilielmi Grosvenor de Haughton bap. (One has to consider that this may be an error, and was meant to be a burial, not a baptism!) p191. 5 Sep 1674 Martha, uxor, Guilielmi Grosvenor, Haughton, sep. p215. 10 Sep 1681 Guilielmus Grosvenor (via probus ac dilectus) Octavo die Septembris ab hoc mundo migravit, Decimo que die ei usden mensis intumulatus erat, pro quo Moruariam Xs solutum fuit. p216. 1 Jan 1681/2 Maria Grosvenor de Haughton sep. Steve Addison on <saddison@cableinet.co.uk> needed OWEN, NEWNES, and SHINGLER folks from the High Ercall regs. Too many Owen/s and Newnes to transcribe down, Steve, but here are all the SHINGLER folk. (If you can be very specific, I can "download" some Owen and Newnes for you on Wednesday, but need to be very specific in what you are looking for re. names and dates. p513. 8 Mar 1778 Ann base daughter of ann Shingler baptized p647. 9 Feb 1796 Richard Amies and Mary Harding married. Witnesses: Sarah Harding, Sam Steedman and Hugh Shingler p672. 29 Dec 1825 Francis Cooke and Mary France married. Wit. Benjamin Peters and Jane Shingler p675. 28 Dec 1830 Hugh Shingler p. Rodingham b., and Elizabeth Taylor sp. by licence. Wit. Mary Taylor, Lydia Taylor, William Taylor, Thomas Taylor. HAVE I MISSED ANYONE WITH HIGH ERCALL QUERIES? I have taken the liberty of holding these at the reserve desk and can continue a look-up on Wednesday, if anyone likes. After that they will have to go and be re shrink-wrapped. Ta Ta. No CRADDOCK found in the non-conformist or R.C. records. Andrew Loughran was wanting. No luck, Andrew, on <qandrewloughran@supanet.com> No REYNOLDS found in LUDLOW chapel. John Moffatt on <ad730@torfree.nett> Sorry John. Karen Harrison on <Karen.Harrison40@btinternet.com> was wanting any PAGE folk at Ditton Priors Wesleyan. Sorry Karen, not even one! And there were only 34 entries all told. Mike Herbert on <herbertm@cytanet.com.cy> was wanting a William Herbert b. about 1826 possible Market Drayton but does not show in the parish registers. Not in the non-conformist ones, either. Sorry Mike. Gill Hart on <Gill.Hart@btinternet.com> needed DENSTONE and MASON at Brosley Birch Meadow Chapel (Baptist). Can't recall if I looked for the Masons, Gill, but will check in a few days with the microfiche set, but here are all the Denstone folk. Large family! p197. 10 Jul 1835 (sic) Martha d/o Thomas & Mabel Denstone, Broseley, Salop, baptized p197 14 Nov 1826 (sic) Ann d/o Samuel and Mary Denstone, Tything, Broseley, Salop, baptized Barbara Lamb on <blamb@capital.net> was interested in a John Stephen JONES in Whitchurch 1790, son or Richard Jones and Isabella Povall. Don't have the Whitchurch regs here, only the non-conformists, and nothing was found. Sorry Barbara. The Myddle book here won't be of much use to you because the entries conclude in 1812. You may have to see if you can order a film of Whitchurch regs from the LDS folk. Good luck. Dorothy Bessex on <dbessex@shaw.ca> wanted some info on MOLLINEUX and PRITCHARD folk of Much Wenlock and Clun. Your dates are too late for me, Dorothy. Very sorry. The regs here finish at 1812. Anything else I can do for you at this time? Ann Foss on <NAAFRR@peoplepc.com> was looking at Edward CHALLENDER, born Wales possibly 1851. Too steep for me, Ann. Need a parish, but then most of the regs here finish 1812 or so. Lots of parishes in Denbighshire. Anyone help???? Pam Gardner on <pam.gardner@btinternet.com> has been patiently waiting for the last volume in the series of Oswestry regs looking for DRYHURST. p68. November 1579. Daud Watkins and Thomasyne, late Wief of Pierse Drihurst weare married the some daie (30th) p121. Septembis mensis 1587. Syna vz John Relict Petri Drihurst gen., obitj 27' die. p210. Januarie 1599. Richard Dryhurst and anne Stanney married the second daye p215. Julij 1600. Edward the sonne of Richard Dryhurst, gent, baptized the 14th daye. p227. Ffebruarie 1601. Francis the sonne of Richard Drihurst cristened the same day (24th) p252. June 1604. Joise the daughter of Richard Dryhurst, gent , baptized 17th p285. December 1607. Richard Drehurst, gent, buried the 6th daie p327. August 1613. Anne Dryhurst, widwe buried the 9th daye p623. Alles the Relict of Ffrancis Dryhurst gent buried the same day (12th) That's all for now, ladies and gents. Enjoy Graham