At 05:53 PM 10/12/01, Petchey432@aol.com wrote: >Graham, don't I wept buckets over the chapter about your Gran, what a lovely >brave lady she must have been, keep up the good work. Regards Doreen Yes, she was Doreen. I have a beautiful photo of her taken in South Yarra, Melbourne, circa 1886 before her marriage, when she would have been about 19, and I think almost any man in those days could have fallen in love with her - such fine Welsh features, gently arched eyebrows, firm forehead with her hair brushed back and braided at the top. Very expressive eyes, a delicate nose, small but gentle looking mouth, strong Welsh cheekbones, and finely pointed chin. She is wearing a high-necked dark-coloured dress, fastened at the top with what appears to be a cameo brooch. The dress has frills at the top and underneath is a "soft" white collar. She came from a family of two boys and five other girls, but looking at other photos I have, I am very pleased to say :)) that she was the best looking of the lot! It was taken from one of those old glass negatives. My aunt described her mother's nature as being a very wise and gentle person. She gave me a lock of her mother's fair hair, which I have since given to one of my nieces. I am sure that my grandfather was extremely blessed to have found this lovely woman. He was 31 at the time of their marriage and apparently had not shown much interest in other ladies in earlier times. After her passing he wrote a letter to her sister and brother-in-law in Burnie, Tasmania, where they owned a drapery business. I am fortunate to have this letter, which he seems to have written the day after the funeral. I included it in my saga; in fact it did help me considerably in knowing and feeling the atmosphere of the day. I would like to share part of it with listers, because reading between the lines, things become a lot clearer. I hope it won't upset you too much. There had, apparently, been a problem earlier with one of the doctors. "I received your kind letter this morning and appreciate the expressions of sympathy from you and Maggie. Two doctors attended in the afternoon; one having been in the morning and the day before. They decided upon a slight operation, which I asked did one in four die from, & was answered - no, hardly that. They used chloroform - and in a few minutes death was in her features, a great change from the smile with which she bade me Good Bye, lest anything should happen. She recovered for a while consciousness and bade us all "Good Bye" with good advice to the boys in particular. I am inclined to think it was an operation likely to be successful in some similar cases. The funeral was in the Eastern Cemetery and the service was read by Mr. Barber a Wesleyan Minister. Lena having expressed a wish to that effect some time before in private conversation." He then talks about the future, etc. And so, life goes on. But, as my aunt told me: he would, late at night, take his violin down to his workshop away from the house where he worked during the day building flour milling machinery, and he would play. Often it would be the old Welsh tune "All through the Night." - "Ah Hyd Y Nos," and possibly he would have even sung the words "Holl am-rant-au'r ser ddy-wed-ant (Love fear not if sad thy dreaming) Ah hyd y nos (All through the night)." I cannot hear that tune, even this day, without a being overcome with emotion, knowing how he must have suffered the great loss of his one and only real love. And when I look at his violin sitting in its glass cabinet, which again I am so fortunate to have, I can see it all before me again, and I can see the happy times - the Sunday music afternoons and evenings that they must have had at his father-in-law's home in South Yarra, with all the family gathered around. Lena's (Helena) sister Maggie (Margaret) on the piano, her fiancee at the time also on violin, and sister Sarah's beau very handy with the flute. Mother and father sitting, watching, and the younger children there listening attentively. None of this is fiction, it is all fact, taken from letters and talks with my aunt. Makes me a little jealous not to have been there! Impossible, I know, but yes, it would have been good to have had that chance in time. And yes, it all comes together as real family history. I can easily visualize my youthful grandmother and grandfather saying goodbye after a musical evening at her parents house - just standing in the garden by the picket gate on a summer's evening, and just yearning to kiss before he had to go off to his lodgings. I can almost smell her perfume and see his starched collar and buttoned waistcoat in the moonlight. And I think that these words sent to me by Ray Ann Alt sum things up for all of us: "How can we, as TRUE genealogists, not endeavor to find out more about that special love that brought forth ourselves, our parents, grand parents, great-grandparents? How can there be people out there whose only interest is in names, dates, and places to fill in blanks on a piece of paper??" Blessings Graham

At 09:55 PM 9/12/01, Rachel Slansky wrote: >I am at work writing a story based on the letters of my grandparents during >WWII, and hope to someday have enough info about my ancestors further back >to do the same for them. I find that as I write about them, I am able to >understand them better, to feel what they felt, to learn more about myself >and the human race Yes, it works, doesn't it. Something comes alive and we see things we never saw before, and we can write things we never thought we would be able to. The "muse" is within all of us. Graham

Dear All Yes, there certainly were a lot of replies, which I expected - so can't at this stage reply individually, except to say I'll do my very best for you, but it won't be for a few weeks, as I have to get my December edition of Genetree out of my hair first and a few other "living" things. Funny how we have to live a life outside of genealogy! To those of you who wrote, you gave me some amusing chuckles. Glad to see all of you keeping your sense of humour even in this serious business of family history. And there were some lovely comments re. my email on "Yesterday" etc. I felt rather humbled at that. But it is true, we do need to know more about our elder folks, and the official history of the times will only tell us so much. Lucky are some of us to have photos, cards, and old letters. My little rag "Genetree" has been going now since 1996. When writing articles for it, one must be certain that everything (as far as possible) is relatives needed to know what the elders were like. I commenced with my paternal grandparents who had returned from New Zealand to Australia and walked slap bang into the 1892 depression where the banks closed for months, some never to re-open. You can imagine what happened next. But they survived, even when later on my grandmother died in childbirth they still survived. I was again fortunate to have had up to 1974 an aunt who had all the family knowledge tucked up inside her brain and who loved to talk about it. I made copious notes, of course. She had a great number of old letters - bonanza! My little family saga, which I titled "Nearer am I to Home," was only meant to deal with the life of these grandparents, but it was soon obvious that it had a life of its own. I made sure, however, that readers were aware that even though it was based on the facts and the historical times, this saga was partially fiction. Though I think I have hit close to the bone when describing some of their lives. And still it goes on. I am only up to 1915 at present, where my father was at Anzac Cove, Gallipoli. As an example of how you can become a part of their lives, I wrote of his sister, my aunt, reading an actual letter he had written from Gallipoli, in which he may have been a little naive, because: "I have been here a week now, and am doing all right so far. You asked me in one of your letters who were the boys in the photo I sent you. The tall chap is Sam O'Dell and the other W. Harris. They are both dead. They were fine fellows to have for mates..." and so the letter went on with other things. Imagine the emotions running through my aunt as she read this letter! Which then leads further as the story goes on. The War Graves Commisssion gave me details of these two fellows, my father's mates, so I wove them into the picture earlier on, while they were still in Australia, though I changed their names. There have been times when I have been writing some scenes and I have been in tears, especially when I had to write of the day my grandmother died in childbirth after an unsuccesfull caesarean operation. Aunt gave me all the details. She talked about how her mother had sat up in the bed at the end, how her father (and she the eldest) had shepherded all the children in to hear their mother say good-bye, and how her mother had given good advice to them for the future, and in particular to the two boys, my father, and my uncle. I had to leave the writing of this many times as I could not see the computer screen properly. But, I came back to it, for as far as I was concerned it had to be done - people needed to know about these things. It was not an easy thing to do, but you know, I think deep inside that I am quite proud of that chapter. It certainly did give me great insight into the character of my grandfather and why he never married again, but lived his life in remembrance of a very brave and lovely lady. Bye for now Graham

Interesting that I should find myself thinking of the same thoughts while listening to a different song on the same day. While driving to work, I was listening to an Emmylou Harris song that, near as I can figure it, is a love story of two ancient people found frozen in the Tundra (I could be wrong- my imagination does tend to run wild). It made me consider all the stories that are out there, including those of my own family, and how wonderful it is to share them. I am at work writing a story based on the letters of my grandparents during WWII, and hope to someday have enough info about my ancestors further back to do the same for them. I find that as I write about them, I am able to understand them better, to feel what they felt, to learn more about myself and the human race. Cheers to Graham for his posting- I heartily agree! Rachel Oregon, USA Researching- THOMAS, South Wales HUGHES, Caernarfon

Saturday, 10.45 p.m. Melbourne time. I have just finished watching Parkinson interviewing Paul McCartney (possibly a little behind the time here in Australia by a few weeks, or months), but what struck me very forcibly was the implication of time and ancestors in much re. the Beatles and others, of course, music. Paul's rendition of "Yesterday, love was such an easy game to play," hit me squarely. Here, was a an average lad from Liverpool, writing a song that had universal import, and as you go on listening to the words that follow, you realise that what was written in the 1960s-70s, also has bearing on the 1800s, indeed even the 1700s, etc., and you come to realise that your grand-parents, and your great grandparents, etc., also had these passionate feelings. "Love was such an easy game to play." Oh yes, how it was, even as I look back over fifty years to my teens. Such an easy game to play. And yes, I believe in yesterday! I do, indeed, for it takes me back to a romance that happened when I was merely seven years old. Can you believe that? I certainly do, and the images of those days are still firm in my mind now. I can still see very clearly, me, a lithe boy of seven years walking along grassy lane with a young girl of the same age, blissfully in love with her at even that delicate age, and so on. It ended when she was transferred to another school. Heart break, oh, heart break indeed for such a young soul. I know without any shadow of doubt, that our ancestors had all these same feelings, through their youth, and through their adulthood, up until their very death. I know without any doubt that they shared our own feelings about life, and that they were as devastated as we are by the traumas that happen around us. This is what links us to them. This very humanity. So, it pays to look at them from a different point of view - rather than merely figures in the past - but flesh and blood and with all the angers, jealousies, loves and hates, that we ourselves have. Not much different, when you come to think of it, than Shakespeare's characters! Some of you have the capability, indeed the talent, to do what I have tried to do - put your ancestors into story format (perhaps called fiction) and see where this leads you. For myself, using all the facts given to me by my elder relatives, and that which I have discovered by myself, has so far been a very fruitful journey writing about these folk of mine who certainly do have many coloured characteristics. Try it for yourself, and see them come alive! Look to the facts of what you have so far found and then let your imagination soar to what they probably were in real life! caio Graham

Dear All I forgot to add that if you are going to reply, please delete the large body of my message as it will take up a lot of unnecessary space on the list. If you don't know how to do this, click your mouse at the beginning of a paragraph, hold the mouse down and scroll down the page - the screen will be black with white lettering. Release the mouse at the end, and hit the delete key. The original message will not be affected. (Or just simply write to me off list). caio Graham

Forwarding, please reply to either Dorothy or via the list. Thanks! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Bessex" <dbessex@shaw.ca> To: <WALES-GEN-L-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 12:51 AM Subject: WELLINGS In the late 1800's some Wellings family members moved from Shobden in Hereford or Shropshire to Rhymney or Merthyr Tydfil . Believe they were related to my greatgrandfather Edward Wellings of Llandewey Ystradenny. Dorothy Victoria Canada --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by Expert Anti-Virus. Version: 6.0.306 / Virus Database: 166 - Release Date: 2001-04-Dec

Howdy folks (I am cross-posting this to the Wales lists, as most Welsh researchers do have relatives spilling over into Shropshire, It would be very neglectful of me if I did not do this). Well, here I am again with my annual look-up. As I will have some spare time around the last week of December and during the first two weeks of January 2002, I am placing myself at your service. I've done this mainly for those who live out in the never-never and who can't get to decent libraries for their research. It's a bit long, so if you are going to print it out, I suggest you preview it first and then print on both sides of your paper for economy sake, e.g. print page 1 by itself, turn it over, then print pages 2-3, and so on. You can "select all," and then change the font to a smaller size, if you wish. These are transcriptions in book form of baptisms, marriages, and burials that we thankfully have in the State Library of Victoria, obviously due to a very enlightened librarian circa 1920s. SHOPSHIRE PARISH REGISTER SOCIETY Acton Burnell R.C. 1769-1837 (S929.306 Sh87) Adderley 1692-1812 L v4 Alberbury 1564-1733 H v6 Alberbury 1733-1812 H v7 Albrighton (nr. Shrewsbury) 1649-1812 L v1 Albrighton (nr. Wolverhampton) 1558-1812 L v3 Astley 1692-1812 L v5 Atcham 1619-1812 H v16 Badger 1619-1812 H v16 Battlefield 1663-1812 L v1 Bedstone 1712-1812 H v5 Berrington 1559-1812 L v14 m. to 1837 Billingsley 1625-1812 H v3 Bitterley 1658-1812 H v4 Bonningale 1698-1812 L v3 Bridgnorth Castle. St. Baptist Chapel. 1779-1836 " " " Stoneway Chapel, Congregational 1765-1812 Bromfield 1559-18122 H v5 Broseley 1570-1700 S929.3424 56 B79 Broseley Birch Meadow Chapel (Baptist) 1794-1835 S929.306 Sh87 Broughton 1705-1812 L v1 Buildwas 1665-1812. m. to 1837. L v14 Burford 1558-1812 H v16 Cardeston 1663-1812 H v5 Caynham, see Clee Hill Chelmarsh 1557-1812 H v3 Chirbury 1629-1812 H v8 Church Preen 1680-1812 H v16 Church Stretton 1661-11812 H v8 Claverley 1568-1812 H v8 Clee Hill Wesleyan Chapel. S929.306 Sh87 Cleobury Mortimer 1601-1812 H v9 Clive 1671-1812 L v7 Clunbury 1574-1812 H v2 Condover 1570-1812 L v6 Cound 1562-1812 L v2 Cressage 1605-1812 L v2 Dawley Magna 1666-1812 L v18 (falling apart!) Deuxhill & Glazeley 1718-1812 H v5 Diddlebury 1583-1812 H v15 Ditton Priors Wesleyan Chapel 1801-1834 Donington 1556-1812 L v3 Dorrington. see Lythe Hill Easthope 1624-1812 H v19 part 4 Eaton Constantine 1684-1812 L v13 Edgmond 1669-1812 L v13 Edgton 1722-1812 L v13 Edstaston 1712-1812 L v10 Ellesmere Independent Chapel 1787-1812 Ercall Magna se High Ercall Fitz 1559-1812 L v4 Ford 1589-1812 H v1 Frodesley 1547-1812 L v4 Glazeley, see Deuxhill and Glazeley Great Bolas 1582-1812 L v13 Great Ness 1589-1812, m. to 1837 L v20 Greete 1663-1812 H v5 Grinshill 1592-1812 H v5 Habberley 1598-1812 H v5 Hadnall & Clive Independent Chapels 1798-1837 Halson 1686-1897 S v2 Handwood 1589-1763 H v1 Harley 1590-1812 L v2 High Ercall 1653-1812, m. to 1837 L v20, parts 4,5,6 Hodnet 1656-1812 L v11 (see also Weston Under Redcastle) Hope Bagot 1714-1812 , m. to 1837 H v20 Hopesay 1660-1812 H v18 parts 1 & 2 Hopton Castle 1538-1812 H v9 Hopton Wafters 1660-1812 H v9 Hordley 1686-1812 L v7 Hughley 1576-1812 H v1 Kenley 1682-1812 L v2 Kinlet 1657-1840 H v17 Kinnerley 1667-12 S v3 Knockin 1661-1812 S v3 Leebotwood 1547-1812 L v5 Leighton 1661-1812 L v5 Llanyblodwell 1695-1812 S v3 Llanyblodwell Smyrna Independent Chapel 1825-1836 Llanymynech 1666-1812 S v8 Longdon Upon Tern 1692-1812 L v2 Longnor 1586-1812 L v5 Ludlow 1558-1719 H v13 Ludlow Corve Stree and Old Independent Chapel 1802-1836 Lydham 1596-1812 H v3 Lyth Hill & Dorrington Chapel 1808-1837 Market Drayton Independent Chapel 1776-1836 Mawley Hall St. Mary Roman Catholic 1763-1831 Melverley 1723-1812 S v1 Middleton Seriven 1728-1812 H v5 Milson 1678-1812 H 16 Minsterley Independent Chapel 1806-1837 Monk Hopton 1698-1812 Montford 1662-1812 L v7 More 1570-1812 H v2 Neen Savage 1572-1812 H 17 Moreton Corbet 1580-1812 L v1 Moreton Say 1691-1812 L8 Munslow 1538-1812 H v15 Myddle 1541-1813, m. to 1837 H v17 Neen Solars 1678-1812 H v16 Neenton 1558-1812 H v3 Newport S.S. Peter & Paul R.C. 1785-1837 Newtown 1779-1812 L v10 Norbury 1560-1812 H v19, pt 2 Norton-in-Hales 1572-1880 L v18 Oldbury 1582-1812 H v16 Oldbury Old Dissenting Chapel (Presbyterian) 1715-1812 Onibury 1577-1812, m. to 1837 H v18, pt 2 Oswestry 1558-1812, m. to 1837 S v4,5,6,7 Oswestry Old Chapel (Congregation) 1780-1812 Pitchford 1558-1812 L v1 Plowder, St. Francis R.C. 1826-1837 Pontesbury 1538-1812 H v12 Prees, see Whixhall Preson Gobalds 1560-1812, m. to 1837 L 20/21 Rattlinghope 1755-1812 H v5 Rodington 1678-1812 L v21, pt 2 Ruyton in the Eleven Towns 1719-1812 L v5 St. Martins 1579-1812 S v8 Selattyn 1557-1812 S v1 Sheinton 1658-1812 L v2 Sheriff Hales 1557-1812 L v7 Shipton 1538-1812 H v1 Shrewsbury Claremont Baptist Meeting House 1766-1808 Shrewsbury High St. Presbyterian 1692-1812 Shrewsbury St. Chad 1616-1812, L v15,16,19 Shrewsbury St. Mary's 1584-1812 L v12 Shrewsbury St. Mary's R.C. 1775-1837 Shrewsbury Society of Friends 1657-1812 Shrewsbury Swan St. Chapel Independent 1767-1812 Sibdon Carwood 1582-1812 H v2 Sidbury 1560-1812 H v1 Smethcote 1609-1812 L v1 Stanton Lacy 1561-1812 H v4 Stapleton 1546-1812 L v5 Stirchley 1658-1812 L v5 Stoke S. Milborough 1654-1812 H v19 pt 5 Stokesay 1559-1812, m. to 1837 H v17 Tasley 1563-1812 H v1 Tibberton 1719-1812 L v13 Tong 1629-1812 L v4 Uffington 1578-1812 L v5 Uppington 1650-1812 L v4 Waters Upton 1547-1812 L v13 Wem 1583-1744 L v9 Wem 1745-1812 L v10 Wem Chapel St. Independent 1785-1836 Westbury 1637-1812 H 12 Weston under Redcastle 1714-1812, m. to 1837 H v20, part 1 Whitchurch (Dodington Presbyterian Chapel) 1708-1812 White Ladies. Burials only 1816-1844 L v3 Whithington 1591-1812 L v5 Whittington 1591-1812 S v2 Whixall Independent Chapel 1805-1822 Willey 1644-1812 H v16 Wistanston 1638, 1661-1812, m. to 1837 H v17 Woolstaston 1601-1812 H v1 Worthen 1558-1812 H v11 Wrockwardine 1591-1812 L v8 Wroxeter 1613-1812 L v11 H= Diocese of Hereford L= Diocese of Lichfield S= Diocese of St. Asaph P.S. As these are hidden away up in the stack, retrieving them is not easy and depends upon condition and availability; i.e. being catalogued, or being shrink-wrapped, or otherwise being in process of conservation, but most are in good condition. Publication dates are very early 1900s. P.P.S. Last time I received a deluge of emails from very pleasant folk wanting look-ups post 1812, or as in the case of marriages for some parishes post 1837. I guess, like me, they needed their eye-sight checking. DO PLEASE TAKE NOTE OF THE DATES before replying. Thanks for that. The reason for getting this email out now, is to give you time to select what you need, so that I do not have to pull down the particular volume twice from the "hidden" stacks, much to the chagrin of the hard working library staff. Must look after them, their work is not an easy one, considering what they have to put up from the public at times, and of course, especially from me! Deadline for providing your information for look-ups will be December 20. For those who have an interest, the December edition of my little rag "Genetree" will be in the Wrexham Library & Arts Centre, and the Victorian State Library, LaTrobe section, around mid December. And a very MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL, and I do hope that the NEW YEAR brings you lots of goodies with new-found relatives coming out of the blue! Check out the 1901 census in January! You are sure to find something! Have fun - this is a hobby, not a job! Graham Price Melbourne, Australia N.B. The meaning of never-never is an Australian icon - in that if you went to live in the outback you would never, never, want to leave it. (I'm not so sure about that! Some parts of Australia are worse than an Afghan desert! :)) )

Howdy. Hope you are all on the look-out for the latest Goner virus. Enough said. For those of you who are looking around woollen and flannel mills for ancestral relatives, the following may be of use:- some general occupations of these mills that appear, in particular, in the 1881 census are: beamer, bobbin maker, bobbin winder, card cleaner, carder, cloth baler, cloth mender, cloth picker, creeler, darner, feeder, finisher, fuller, loom jobber, loom tuner, millband, millworker, picker, piecer, reader, slubber, sorter, spinner, splicer, stapler, stocking knitter, twister, warper, washer, weaver, winder, wool packer, wood puller, tarn carrier, tarn winder. Any of these will certainly point to your relatives working in a wool factory close by. P.S. for those Roberts & Jones researchers, you may be pleased to know that I think I have found the origin of Lowry, or Laura Roberts, nee Lloyd of Maengoron, Lantysilio, Denbighshire. Seems that she is perhaps the daughter of Robert & Elizabeth (Jones) Lloyd, baptized at Cerrigydrudion 31 Jun 1772 (fits absolutely perfectly with her age in various census and her tombstone) - Robert & Elizabeth of tu Isa in havod, elwy, Hennlan parish. I still have to reconcile this with the 1851 census stating that she was born in MGY, but then, we all know, census records are often quite imperfect, in more ways than one. Need the marriage to check that out, and possibly the 1871 census of Llantysilio, as she was still alive in 1873. More work!! Onward!! Tally-ho!! Cherrio Graham

The following article was found in the Wilkes-Barre Record, 16 Jul 1894, Page 7. If anyone is interested in receiving a copy of this obituary, please send me your mailing address. (Instead of submitting this to any specific Mailing List, I am submitting it to the General list in the hopes that it will be seen by a more diverse group.) "DEATH OF MRS. ISAAC JONES "Mrs. Anne Jones of North Meade street died yesterday of paralysis after a brief illness, aged 73 years. She was highly respected on the Heights, and was a life long member of the Welsh Presbyterian Church. She survived her husband, the late Isaac Jones, three years. She died in her own house surrounded by a large adult family of sons, daughters and grand children as follows: Merchant Jonathan Jones of the Heights; contractor Thomas E. Jones; Joshua Jones and Richard Jones of Dorranceton; Evan Jones, a farmer at Spring Brook, Lackawanna County; merchant Isaac Jones of Kingston; Mrs. Henry Robinson of the Heights; Mrs. Griffith Dougher of Spring Brook; and Mrs. Daniel Davis, who resided with her. She and her husband came to the United States eight years ago from Rhandirmyr, Wales, where they owned and cultivated an extensive farm, but their children having emigrated, some of them over a quarter of a century ago, they sold their farm and purchased a farm at Spring Brook, where they lived until the death of Mr. Jones, three years ago. Mrs. Jones then sold the farm and removed to this city. The funeral will take place this morning. The remains will be taken to Spring Brook on the W.B.&E.R.R., where obsequies will be conducted by Rev. W.H. Williams of this city. Interment in Spring Brook Cemetery." Nancy Cook Pasadena, MD, USA

The following article was found in the Wilkes-Barre Record, 16 Jul 1894, Page 7. If anyone is interested in receiving a copy of this obituary, please send me your mailing address. (Instead of submitting this to any specific Mailing List, I am submitting it to the General list in the hopes that it will be seen by a more diverse group.) "DEATH OF JOSEPH PARRY "Joseph Parry, who has been a resident at 206 Stanton street for the past twenty years, died yesterday of miners' consumption, aged 73 years. He was a great sufferer for six months, but was only confined to his bed for three weeks. He leaves a widow and five adult children, Mrs. Levi Gibbons of Wilkes-Barre; William Parry of Morea, Schuylkill County; Thomas Parry of Upper Lehigh; Solomon Parry of California and a daughter at home. He was a native of Llanelly, Breconshire, Wales, from where he emigrated twenty-eight years ago. He was a zealous member and support of the Second Welsh Baptist Church, South Side, and was well respected in the community. The funeral will take place on Tuesday at 1 p.m. Rev. A.J. Morton of Kingston and Rev. Jacob Davis of Plymouth will officiate. Interment in Hollenback Cemetery." Nancy Cook Pasadena, MD, USA

The following article was found in the Wilkes-Barre Record, 20 Jul 1894, Page 8. If anyone is interested in receiving a copy of this obituary, please send me your mailing address. (Instead of submitting this to any specific Mailing List, I am submitting it to the General list in the hopes that it will be seen by a more diverse group.) "DEATH OF SQUIRE PRITCHARD "A Well Known Resident of Larksville Passes Away "William L. Pritchard, well known throughout the valley, died in Larksville at 11 o'clock on Wednesday night, aged 69 years. Deceased had been ailing for about seven years with miners' asthma. He was a miner by occupation, but had left the mines on account of ill health and had been engaged in the tea business for the last seven years. He was born in Nantygle, South Wales, and came to this country thirty-seven years ago. He has resided in Danville, Hyde Park, Shamokin and other places. From 1877-1882 he was justice of the peace for Plymouth Township. There remain to mourn his loss a widow and three children - William, inside foreman at the Buttonwood colliery; John W. and Mr. Albert Avery of Larksville. He was a member of the Bethesda Congregational Church of Edwardsville, with which church he became identified at its organization. Funeral will leave Kingston on the 11:22 a.m. D.L.&W. train for Scranton on Saturday where interment will be made in Washburn Street Cemetery. Rev. D.L. Davis will officiate. Deceased was not the well known squire Pritchard of Hunlock." Nancy Cook Pasadena, MD, USA

Because my living family and living church need me more over the Christmas period than my dead ancestors and my ecclesiastical history, I will be signing off all of my e-mail list memberships (apart from those that I administer) until the new year. I hope to be back in time to win the lollipop for first UK 1901 census entry quoted on the list! In the mean time if you feel that you can't live without my pearls of wisdom :-), please e-mail me off list. Thanks for all the help over the past year and "Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda" (For those who don't speak the language of Heaven:- A Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year). All the best Alwyn

Hi Liz and Alwyn, This may be a little late but I've just read your emails (below) from October. Hopefully this can provide some clarity with regard to Liz's query about commissionaires. To this day The Corps of Commissionaires provide a valued security service. >From the UK Corps Site - "The Corps was founded in 1859 by Captain Sir Edward Walter in order to gain meaningful employment for former soldiers, sailors and the militia who had effectively been abandoned by society after their return from the Crimea. The culture remains to give value recognition for today's recent service leavers and a second career option in continuing to use their skills and experience to interface with technology in a commercial security role, at home and overseas. With the ending of National Service, the brief was extended to incorporate former members of the Emergency Services including the Police, the Fire and Ambulance, the Prison Service and the Coast Guards....." >From Canadian Corps History - "In 1915 the Duke of Connaught, then Governor General of Canada, suggested to the authorities that a Corps be formed in Canada. Patterned on the Corps in England, it would provide a livelihood for unemployed veterans of World War I. On 25 July 1925, a Charter was obtained and three Companies were organized - No. 1 in Montreal, No 2 in Toronto, and No. 3 in Vancouver. In 1936, action was taken by the Department of Pensions and National Health to renew the letters patent of the old Charter. Supplementary Letters Patent revising the original Charter were issued in February 1937 and, in June 1937, His Excellency the Governor General, Lord Tweedsmuir, became the first Patron-in-Chief of the Corps, and the Lieutenant-Governors were asked to become Patrons....." Liz, there are lots of websites that may be of assistance in your research about this profession. A few are: http://www.the-security-net.co.uk/adverts/corps/main.htm (UK) http://www.the-corps.co.uk (UK) http://www.commissionaires.ca (Canada) Hope this helps, Regards, Leslie O'Neill-Reynolds -----Original Message----- From: AlwynapHuw@aol.com [mailto:AlwynapHuw@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 4:41 PM To: WALES-GEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WALES-GEN] occupation query I may be totally wrong in respect of your ancestor's occupation, but to me a commissionaire is the person who stands at the door of a cinema or theatre to welcome patrons Regards Alwyn In a message dated 14/10/2001 21:16:41 GMT Daylight Time, ElizabethHessan@aol.com writes: > can sks tell me if the occupation commisionaire would be applied to a > person > who had recently left the forces in the 1950's, or is there some other job > that would conver this description. > tia > liz

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Hi all, this is cross-posted, so delete multiples. I know we are not supposed to put across emails re. viruses, but I thought I might be forgiven for this. I have decided that each time I log on to my server and recieve my email, I then immediately minimize the folder and do a virus check from my virus programme, but just on the email folder: e.g. as in Eudora, go to Windows, Application Data, Qualcomm, Eudora, and GO FOR IT! STRIKE! Only takes less than a minute, and saves running the whole programme, and also cleans out the viruses without one having to open or look at anything at all on the email folder. First day it wiped out five virus emails, second day it wiped out two. Do it every time! Cheers Graham

The following article was found in the Wilkes-Barre Record, 11 May 1894, Page 8. If anyone is interested in receiving a copy of this obituary, please send me your mailing address. (Instead of submitting this to any specific Mailing List, I am submitting it to the General list in the hopes that it will be seen by a more diverse group.) "DEATH OF MRS. WILLIAM JONES "One of the best known residents of the Heights was Mrs. Elizabeth Jones of East Market street, who died yesterday of cancer of the stomach, aged 61 years. She was the widow of William Jones, who died two years ago. She was a native of Llanfair, Cardiganshire, Wales, and came to this country thirty years ago and settled in Wilkes-Barre. She was a patient sufferer and it was only a week ago that she was confined to her bed, although the disease had a hold upon her constitution for several years. She was an earnest working Christian and was always willing to assist in any charitable movement. She was a life-long member of the Welsh Presbyterian Church. She leaves a family of adult children - Merchant David W. Jones, East Market street; John W. Jones, with Sturdevant & Fogel; and three daughters, Misses Maggie, Lizzie and Mrs. Daniel H. Thomas of the Heights. "The funeral will be held on Saturday at 2 p.m. Rev. J.O. Jones and Rev. W.H. Williams will officiate. Interment in Hollenback Cemetery." Nancy Cook Pasadena, MD, USA

The following article was found in the Wilkes-Barre Record, 10 Mar 1894, Page 8. If anyone is interested in receiving a copy of this obituary, please send me your mailing address. (Instead of submitting this to any specific Mailing List, I am submitting it to the General list in the hopes that it will be seen by a more diverse group.) "GWALCH EBRILL DEAD "Such was the sad intelligence conveyed to W.L. Myles of Kingston yesterday afternoon, Daniel James, better known by his countrymen as Gwalch Ebrill, was a poet of no mean pretension, yet he was one of the most unassuming characters among the bards of the eisteddfod. His genial open countenance was always greeted with a hearty welcome. He was a native of Carmarthenshire, South Wales, emigrated to the United States twenty years ago, resided at Drifton, Hazleton, Mahanoy City, and finally settled at Lansford, Carbon County, where he breathed his last on Thursday, and will be buried from his late home on Monday afternoon, March 12. Mr. James leaves a wife, and one son and one daughter." Nancy Cook Pasadena, MD, USA

The following article was found in the Wilkes-Barre Record, 12 Sep 1891, Page 6. If anyone is interested in receiving a copy of this obituary, please send me your mailing address. (Instead of submitting this to any specific Mailing List, I am submitting it to the General list in the hopes that it will be seen by a more diverse group.) "HE WAS A GOOD OLD MAN "Yesterday morning James Thomas died at West Pittston at the residence of his son, J.W. Thomas, where he has made his home for the past three years. He was well known as one of the most zealous members of the Franklin street M.E. Church, where he was ordained deacon, and was a well known local preacher. He was 79 years of age, and was a native of Wales, having been born in Monmouthshire April 10, 1813. He emigrated to the United States in 1842 and settled in Pottsville, Schuylkill County, and removed from there to Wilkes-Barre in June, 1868, where he remained in business until age prevented him from continuing it. Since then he has been active in Christian work, and often visited this city on special occasions at the Franklin street M.E. Church. He leaves an aged widow, three daughters and a son. All the children are married. Tw0 of the daughters reside at Philadelphia. The others are: Mrs. B.S. Williams of this city and J.W. Thomas of West Pittston, from which place the funeral will take place on Monday afternoon at 2 o'clock. Interment at Hollenbach Cemetery." Nancy Cook Pasadena, MD, USA

Messed up mailing address - so resending this msg - Jessie (my grandmother was probably around 20 or so in 1900). Appreciate any info - she disappeared out of my father's life when he was 8 and re-appeared when he was 40. I have very little knowledge of her, other than she was a trickster, life of the party, short, red-headed (?), and full of life. She flew planes in the early 1900's. Thanks, Janet Quayle ----- Original Message ----- From: Janet Brosius Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 9:46 AM To: WALES-GEN-L-request@rootsweb.com Subject: Jessie Quayle Looking for my grandmother Jessie Quayle who married a Harry Dorr Bradley in Canada, Wales, or the US. Found 3 Jessie's but don;t know where Lonan, Kirk German, and Maughold are, or which she is.