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    1. [WALES-GEN] I wonder how much the person was paid for his idea
    2. Graham: I bet the person who thought up the idea that you could only have 3 volumes was somebody who makes lots of money and does nothing but think of stupid ideas. Perhaps you should ask the State Library why they changed it and whose idea it was. At least you would have the satisfaction of knowing. You couldn't do much about it . . Sometimes the best indexes are the old card catalog indexes. Annie

    12/27/2001 05:50:28
    1. [WALES-GEN] PARISH REGISTER LOOK-UPS SHROPSHIRE - EARLY BIRDS, AND WALES BORDER COUNTIES RESEARCHERS LOOKING INTO SHROPSHIRE
    2. Graham Price
    3. Well hello. I do hope everyone had a pleasant Christmas and did not over-indulge! Naughty! I bet you did. I have commenced looking at the Shropshire Parish Register Society publications for various members of these lists. Well, my lovelies, you will have to hold your breath for a few weeks, as the new catalogue system for the State Library of Victoria has made things a little difficult. Previously, when one wanted these precious volumes, one filled out a call slip - say for five or six volumes (to save time too-ing and fro-ng, naturally) and within about 20 mins to half an hour, one got the whole five or six volumes. Alas, one is only allowed three items at a time, now. Okay, so not so bad. What's next? The computer catalogue will not tell you what the volumes are! You are going to say to me now - Graham, you've got to be joking! But I'm not. All one gets, say for the Diocese of Hereford, is, vol 1, vol 2, vol 3, vol 20, etc. with nothing to tell you what on earth they are. Could be registers on the planet Mars for all you know. So one tramps back to the very ancient (but very magical) card index. Card index? In these days!!! Yes, and it works, too. Find the parish, note the time period required, and select the volume, then back to the ordering computer. Insert the order, and trust to God. Half an hour later, as of this very day, pick up the volumes. WRONG ONES! Diocese of Lichfield volumes, and not Diocese of Hereford! Oh, blow. But, not my fault, nor the computer's fault this time. No need to mention whose! So, the search commences all over again. Really, I love libraries and librarians and bend over backwards to help them out as much as I can, as many of them do as well, but there are times when it all becomes too trying. I have had the WRONG ONES presented to me so many times, that I rather expect it to happen every day I go in. And this is not whinging for the sake of whinging, it is alerting just in case a librarian or two from the State Library of Victoria happens upon one of these lists, and then whispers, OOOHH! And then tries to do something about it. This has slowed me down considerably. I was hoping to get much work done today, but..... Even so, I still love the library, and I still love the librarians. Good news for some. I am posting these to the lists directly, because this will go into the archives, and someone else later on who is researching these names, will be able to retrieve the information and contact the original researchers. As well, other listers may note some of the names, especially those of spouses, and hopefully find a connection. Leave no stone unturned for others to follow! Shani Green at <shani.green@ezixt.co.uk> was looking for Gregory folk at Dawley Magna, and the possibility of a Hetty Bache?. Marriage. 12 Nov 1820 William Bowyer, b., and Sarah Gregory, sp. 25 Dec 1833 Richard Gregory b. and Ann Browne sp. 27 Jan 1834 John Gregory b. and Hetty Bache sp. (No bache, Batch, or Batche baptism at Dawley) Paul Darrall of <k.d@clear.net.nz> was looking for certain Daral, Darrel, or Darrels also at Dawley Magna. This was a little more complicated 27 Dec 1673 Edward s/o Edward Darrell & Jane bap.. 24 Aug 1684 Thomas f. Edwardi Dorral de Ridges et uxoris ejus bap. 10 Dec 1688 [blank] filia Edwardi Dorral et Xtian bap. 21 Sep 1690 Thomas s/o Edward Darrall sep. 30 Sep 1691 Thomas s/o Edward Darrall & Cristian bap. 9 Jul 1712 Cristian Darrell bur. 24 Dec 1716 Edward Darrell bur. 25 May 1717 [entry erased but apparently it is the same as the one following] Tho: Darrell & Elizabeth Darrell married (Paul, I think you have to accept that the Thomas bap. 1691 is this one) 28 May 1718 Edward s/o Thomas & Elizabeth Darrell bap. 28 Jun 1763 John s/o Elizabeth Darrell bap. 9 July 1763 Thomas Darrall s/o Elizabeth Darrell bap. (Paul, there were no references to the father). No marriage at Dawley for Edward & Cristian. Susan Evans Shaw on <susan@nas.net> was looking for a George Ash about 1821 at High Ercall. No luck there, Susan, but the following Ash's came up. (For those of you who are also asking about High Ercall, time was my enemy! Will get to it.) 29 Apr 1680 marriage. William Meddins and Elizabeth Ash were joyned in holy matrimony 5 Feb 1715 William Ash and Jane Higginson were joyned in holy matrimony 4 Dec 1715 Elizabeth d/o William Ash & Jane buried 11 Jun 1745 John Owens and Elizabeth Ash married Susan was also asking about Hodnet, but her references were much too late in time for the volumes at the SLV. Also a Thomas Ash said to be born 1798, was not baptized at Hodnet. So, that sets off another search. Moe Chaplin on <moechap@log.on.ca> was asking for a big mac with the lot on a sesame seed bun, and obviously wanted as many ancestors as there were seeds on the bun! Ha ha, but anyway, herewith some of your Woolham folk from Hodnet, Moe. 13 Mar 1769 burial Tabitha w/o Joseph Woolhams, Kenston 27 Aug 1774 burial John Woolhams, Wollerton 28 Mar 1792 burial Joseph Woolhams, Hodnet 26 Dec 1765 marriage George Thompson p. of Moreton Say and Sarah Woolham. Wit. Thomas Cartwright. 2 Aug 1776 marriage Edward Tonna or Tunna p. Prees widr. and Elizabeth Woolham, wid. lic. 21 Jul 1777 marriage William Chyrm (sic) and Mary Woolhams wit. Elizabeth Morris, Thomas Cartwright High Ercall. 7 Aug 1774 marriage Roger Wollom and Mary Hope baptism 8 Mar 1807 Thomas s/o John and Elizabeth Woolham baptism 16 Apr 1809 Mary d/o William & Elizabeth Woolham Sue Vernall was looking for Vernalls/Vernolls.Varnolls/Varnells, etc. in about eight parishes. So far have noted a fair number in Ludlow, and am continuing this parish tomorrow from 1665. p16. 3 Aug 1588 Richard Varnolls and Anne Millard married p29. 28 Sep 1617 Richard Monkland and Jane Vernols married p31. 2 Feb 1619 Richard Vernols and Margaret Webb married by Banns p39. 4 Jun 1632 Michael Vernols and Alice Clee married by Banns p46. 14 Jun 1638 Francis Corfield and Anne Vernalls married by Licence p102. 26 Oct 1589 William s/o Richard Vernalls baptized p107. 17 Dec 1592 Jane d/o Richard Vernals baptized p111. 24 Nov 1594 Richard s/o Richard Vernolls baptized p114. Mary d/o Richard Vernolls baptized p268. 19 Feb 1594 Richard s/o Richard Vernoll buried p274. 3 May 1597 Elizabeth Vernolls buried p276. 23 Oct 1597 Mary d/o Richard Varnolls buried p313. 28 Mar 1617 Dorothy d/o William Vernals buried p313 11 May 1617 Anne w/o Richard Vernols buried p349. 5 May 1632 Richard Vernolls buried p357 13 apr 1636 William Vernolls buried p376 Collections AD 1661 - show that John Vernall was a churchwarden 1664 - show that John Vernalls was a churchwarden 1666 - show that Thomas Varnalls was a churchwarden 1667 - show that Thomas Vernalls was a churchwarden p408 12 Apr 1664 Elizabeth d/o John Vernals and Jane baptized More to come Pam Thornbury <pthorn@ihug.co.nz> was asking about Osland folk in about five parishes. Oh, blimey, Pam, there are stacks of them at Burford, for a start. Am writing them down tomorrow. Let's hope that this is the beginning of further research for these folk who seem eager as beavers to find their long-lost ancestral relatives. Other names in parishes will continue as the next few weeks unfold. Cherrio Graham

    12/27/2001 01:55:13
    1. [WALES-GEN] Welsh word question:
    2. Can someone please tell me how one would write "Merry Christmas and "Happy New Year" in Welsh? Thank you for your time. R.J. Please reply to my personal email address ,not the mailing list. kujawski@ac.marywood.edu

    12/22/2001 05:01:34
    1. [WALES-GEN] Fw: Welsh monument inscription
    2. List Owner
    3. Message forwarded by List Owner - please do not reply to me. Regards, Julie list.owner@virgin.net http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections http://www.cadvision.com/traces/cj/cjmlists.htm Fax & Voice Mail (+44) 0870 130 5474 ----- Original Message ----- From: "mticknor" <mticknor@netzero.net> To: <WALES-GEN-L-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 1:34 AM Subject: Welsh monument inscription I have been given the inscription on my Great Grandfather's Toombstone but it is in Welsh and even using an online dictionary I have not been able to translate it. Is there anyone who can help me? He died in 1891 in Alliance, Ohio USA. Here is the inscription: EI DDEWRACH DROS ECWYDDDRIUN NI FU AC RYD FEDD YN FFYDDLON I RINWEDD CYMRO UNION CARAI WAITH A CAIR EI ION Any help I can get would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Marcia Ticknor --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by Expert Anti-Virus. Version: 6.0.310 / Virus Database: 171 - Release Date: 2001-19-Dec

    12/22/2001 02:36:12
    1. [WALES-GEN] Morgan Evans, Died 3 Dec 1894, Lansford, PA, USA
    2. Cook, Nancy
    3. The following article was found in the Wilkes-Barre Record, 4 Dec 1894, Page 8. An article on his funeral appeared in the 7 Dec 1894 issue. If anyone is interested in receiving a copy of this obituary, please send me your mailing address. (Instead of submitting this to any specific Mailing List, I am submitting it to the General list in the hopes that it will be seen by a more diverse group.) "The sad news received by telegram yesterday, of the death of Morgan Evans, (Meurig Aman) of pneumonia, at Lansford, Pa., the well known poet, will be received with regret by his friends in Wyoming and Lackawanna valleys. Mr. Evans was among the best known Cambro-Americans and Ivorites. He took great interests in the eisteddfods and was the winner of a number of prizes. He held the office of secretary of the grand lodge of Ivorites of the United States and he was vice president of the Welsh Congregational Association of Northeastern Pennsylvania. He was a leading light in church circles, and held the office of superintendent of Sunday Schools for many years. "He was born at Cwmaman, Carmarthenshire, South Wales." Nancy Cook Pasadena, MD, USA

    12/20/2001 01:43:13
    1. [WALES-GEN] Thomas L. Morgan, Died 4 Jan 1895, Scranton, PA, USA
    2. Cook, Nancy
    3. The following article was found in the Wilkes-Barre Record, 5 Jan 1895, Page 8. If anyone is interested in receiving a copy of this obituary, please send me your mailing address. (Instead of submitting this to any specific Mailing List, I am submitting it to the General list in the hopes that it will be seen by a more diverse group.) "Thomas L. Morgan (Llyfnwy) of Scranton, one of the best known Welshmen in this section, died yesterday of general debility, aged 65 years. He was a man of strong literary attainments and was well known in Welsh literary circles. He was also an antiquarian and an authority on Welsh lore and on the old castles and Welsh nobility from its earliest history. He was a native of Maesteg, Wales, and emigrated to the United States thirty years ago, and for years carried on a successful merchant tailoring business. He brought up a large family, all of whom are worthy citizens, including Tallie Morgan, the well known Prohibition orator, and William Morgan, the leader of the Forest City Choir, that took a prize at the eisteddfod at Scranton in September. Deceased was secretary of the National Eisteddfod of Wales in 1862." Nancy Cook Pasadena, MD, USA

    12/20/2001 01:30:28
    1. [WALES-GEN] Thomas Jenkins, Died 11 Jan 1895, Wanamie, PA, USA
    2. Cook, Nancy
    3. The following article was found in the Wilkes-Barre Record, 12 Jan 1895, Page 8. If anyone is interested in receiving a copy of this obituary, please send me your mailing address. (Instead of submitting this to any specific Mailing List, I am submitting it to the General list in the hopes that it will be seen by a more diverse group.) "Thomas R. Jenkins, 51 years of age, died yesterday at his home in Wanamie, after an eighteen months' siege of paralysis. He leaves a wife and nine children, the eldest of whom is 20 years of age. He has always been an upright, industrious citizen, and during his twenty-six years' residence in Wyoming Valley he has resided in Pittston, Warrior Run, Parsons and Wanamie, coming here from Pontardawe, Wales. He was a member of the Welsh Congregational Church, and has been an earnest worker in the church and Sunday school. His brother, Lewis Jenkins, was a mine foreman at Wanamie for several years, but died in Montana several years ago. He was also a brother-in-law of Evan Hughes of Warrior Run. The funeral will take place on Monday, with services at 12 pm. Rev. Theophilus Davis of Plains will officiate, and interment will be in Hanover Green Cemetery." Nancy Cook Pasadena, MD, USA

    12/20/2001 01:18:46
    1. [WALES-GEN] ADMIN Archives at Rootsweb
    2. List Owner
    3. Rootsweb have announced that 'Archiver,' the Rootsweb Threaded Archives are up and running again. To find the list archives you wish to browse, go to http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ where you will be able to locate the appropriate list. The searchable archives can be found at http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl Regards Julie & Carol List Owners list.owner@virgin.net http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections http://www.cadvision.com/traces/cj/cjmlists.htm Fax & Voice Mail (+44) 0870 130 5474 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by Expert Anti-Virus. Version: 6.0.307 / Virus Database: 168 - Release Date: 2001-11-Dec

    12/18/2001 03:44:15
    1. [WALES-GEN] Cardiff area
    2. Tim Callaghan
    3. Is this the right list for the Cardiff area or is there a more specific list? Tim

    12/18/2001 03:30:59
    1. [WALES-GEN] Re: WALES-GEN-D Digest V01 #203
    2. TelkomSA7918
    3. Hi Listers I have not been on for a while now but thought it was about time that I entered my name that I am researching Josiah Spriggs b 1848 Brecon Wales Louise Gertrude SPRIGGS b1837 Brecon Wales I would like to thank the list in advance for any help Before I close I would like to wish everybody a Happy Christmas and a Prosperous New Year Kind Regards Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: <WALES-GEN-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <WALES-GEN-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 8:01 AM Subject: WALES-GEN-D Digest V01 #203

    12/17/2001 07:10:00
    1. [WALES-GEN] ADMIN Festive Greetings
    2. List Owner
    3. ***Festive Greetings from the List Owners*** Well the Festive Season is yet again upon us. Please, please, if you are going away remember to unsubscribe from your mailing lists, or change to digest mode during the festive season. The address to Unsubscribe and then resubscribe is ======================================================= To unsubscribe from WALES-GEN-L send a message to WALES-GEN-L-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe To unsubscribe from WALES-GEN-D send a message to WALES-GEN-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe ======================================================= To post to the list please send mail to wales-gen-L@rootsweb.com mail sent to the request address will bounce to us and could sit in our mail box for a few days. Please if possible can subscribers post from the address that they are subscribed under, if you post from a different address the robot at Rootsweb bounces the mail as possible spam and it might be a while before it gets to the list. Attachments during the festive season. Remember to still be cautious about opening attachments. If you recognise the address of the sender, email them and check they have sent you an attachment before you open it. If you are going away during the Festive Season, please for the sake of security DO NOT mention it on the list. Wishing you all a lovely Christmas and may the coming year be a Genealogical Success! Best Wishes Regards Carol and Julie List Owners list.owner@virgin.net http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections http://www.cadvision.com/traces/cj/cjmlists.htm Fax & Voice Mail (+44) 0870 130 5474 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by Expert Anti-Virus. Version: 6.0.307 / Virus Database: 168 - Release Date: 2001-11-Dec

    12/15/2001 04:37:36
    1. [WALES-GEN] ADMIN VIRUSES
    2. List Owner
    3. **This is being cross posted to ALL the lists we admin, so apologies if you see this more than once** The recent postings on many Rootsweb lists regarding the Virus sunfnbk. DO NOT remove this from your computer. This virus warning is a hoax and therefore I ask that all virus notes are sent to me off list initially. The file mentioned above is a Windows Utility and is needed by your computer. The following details are forwarded from the Virus Discussion list. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you have a standard Windows install disk, it should be in there. From Symantec: How to restore the Sulfnbk.exe file If you have deleted this file, restoration is optional. Sulfnbk.exe is a Microsoft Windows utility that is used to restore long file names. It is not needed for normal system operation. If you want to restore it, there is more than one way to do this. See the information that follows. NOTE: The instructions in this document are provided for your convenience. The extraction of Windows files uses Microsoft programs and commands. Symantec does not provide warranty support for or assistance with Microsoft products. If you have any questions, please see your Windows documentation or contact Microsoft. Windows Me If you are using Windows Me, you can restore the file using the System Configuration Utility. 1. Click Start and then click Run. 2. Type msconfig and then press Enter. 3. Click Extract Files. The "Extract one file from installation disk" dialog box appears. 4. In the "Specify the system file you would like to restore" box, type the following, and then click Start: c:\windows\command\sulfnbk.exe NOTE: If you installed Windows to a different location, make the appropriate substitution. The Extract File dialog box appears. 5. Next to the "Restore from" box, click Browse, and browse to the location of the Windows installation files. If they were copied to the hard drive, this is, by default, C:\Windows\Options\Install. You can also insert the Windows installation CD in the CD-ROM drive and browse to that location. 6. Click OK and follow the prompts. Windows 98 If you are using Windows 98, you can restore the file using the System File Checker. 1. Click Start and then click Run. 2. Type sfc and then press Enter. 3. Click "Extract one file from installation disk." 4. In the "Specify the system file you would like to restore" box, type the following, and then click Start: c:\windows\command\sulfnbk.exe NOTE: If you installed Windows to a different location, make the appropriate substitution. The Extract File dialog box appears. 5. Next to the "Restore from" box click Browse, and browse to the location of the Windows installation files. If they were copied to the hard drive, this is, by default, C:\Windows\Options\Cabs. You can also insert the Windows installation CD in the CD-ROM drive and browse to that location. 6. Click OK and follow the prompts. Windows 95 (or alternative method for Windows 98/Me) If you are using Windows 95, you need to use the extract command. This can also be used on Windows 98/Me. 1. Click Start, point to Find or Search, and then click Files or Folders. 2. Make sure that "Look in" is set to (C:) and that Include subfolders is checked. 3. In the "Named" or "Search for..." box, type: precopy1 4. Click Find Now or Search Now. If it does not exist on the hard drive, then insert the Windows installation CD and repeat the search on that drive. 5. When you find the file, write down the location of Precopy1, for example, C:\Windows\Options\Cabs. This is your Source Path. 6. The general form of the Extract command is: extract <Source Path>\precopy1.cab sulfnbk.exe /L c:\windows\command So if the source path is C:\Windows\Options\Cabs, then the Extract command becomes: extract c:\windows\options\cabs\precopy1.cab sulfnbk.exe /L c:\windows\command NOTE: If you installed Windows to a different location, make the appropriate substitution. 7. Click Start and then click Run. 8. Type the following, making the appropriate substitutions as previously noted extract <Source Path>\precopy1.cab sulfnbk.exe /L c:\windows\command 9. Click OK. For more information on how to use the Microsoft Extract command, see the Microsoft Knowledge Base document, How to Extract Original Compressed Windows Files, Article ID: Q129605 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by Expert Anti-Virus. Version: 6.0.307 / Virus Database: 168 - Release Date: 2001-11-Dec

    12/15/2001 04:03:13
    1. [WALES-GEN] HASTINGS et al of Wrenham, South Wales
    2. Colin Ferguson
    3. The text below is from LDS Film 469008, Registry of Deeds, Ireland. Year 1833, File #20, Memorial #244. "John Peter Charles Lantur of Montanbean in the Kingdom of France and Charlotte Elizabeth Lantur orse Sheppy his wife Samuel Byrne of Lower Rutlam Street in the City of Dublin Gentl and Eliztu Catherine Byrne orse oBrien his wife and Thomas Lunn of New Street in the City of Dublin aforesaid Gentl and Harriett Lunn orse oBrien his wife which said Charlotee Elizth Sheppy Elizabeth Catherine Byrne and Harriett Lunn are the coheiresses at law of Elizabeth Hastings late of Wrenham in South Wales widow deceased of the first part John Ferguson of Gloucester Street in the City of Dublin sole heir named in the last will and Testament of the said Elizabeth Hastings of the second part and John Augustus Knipe of Wimbletdon in the County of Surry Esq of the third part and Francis Baker of Belturbet in the County of Cavan widow of the fourth part" My question is: where is Wrenham? In looking at placenames the only thing close is Wrexham and the handwriting on the deed may in fact say Wrexham; but as it appears on the map Wrexham doesn't appear to be in the South. Was South Wales a formal subdivision in 1833 that included Wrexham? Cheers, Colin Ferguson

    12/14/2001 11:27:12
    1. Re: [WALES-GEN] Mortowooi
    2. Enfield
    3. Thank you for looking. I don't know where to go. Thanks so much for your help. Kathryn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Harvey" <bgh-mgh@teanstaffs.fsnet.co.uk> To: <WALES-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 11:52 PM Subject: Re: [WALES-GEN] Mortowooi > Hi, > I have looked on the 1881 Census for Wales and Monmouth and there is not one > Mawford included and only 16 in the whole of the British Isles so it is > very rare. > Mortowooi rings no bells with me. I just can't think where it could be. > I have looked on the 1891Census placename Index for Wales and also done a > search on the Wales and Monmouth CD of the 1881 Census and can't find > anything. It is probably the phonetic spelling and perhaps a Welsh speaker > will have more idea. I know w in Welsh can be pronounced long as the oo in > school and i as ee in need so it could end in we and not ooi and perhaps end > in something like towey which sounds more Welsh to me. > Regards, > Margaret Harvey > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Enfield" <7plusme@cox-internet.com> > To: <WALES-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 7:45 AM > Subject: [WALES-GEN] Mortowooi > > > > Please does anyone have any ideas about this word? On the ship records to > the USA (1907) John WM Mawford said he was from this place. I am grasping at > straws. Is MAWFORD a common name in Wales? LOL are there more than 2? > > Thanks for any help you are willing to offer. > > Kathryn in Texas > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.306 / Virus Database: 166 - Release Date: 12/4/01 > > > > > > ==== WALES-GEN Mailing List ==== > > C J Genealogical Collections > > Web Page http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== WALES-GEN Mailing List ==== > Have you used Tree Tops? > The Free FAMILY TREE & WE'LL MEET AGAIN SERVICE > http://freespace.virgin.net/tree.tops > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.306 / Virus Database: 166 - Release Date: 12/4/01

    12/14/2001 02:27:08
    1. Re: [WALES-GEN] Mortowooi
    2. Brian Harvey
    3. Hi, I have looked on the 1881 Census for Wales and Monmouth and there is not one Mawford included and only 16 in the whole of the British Isles so it is very rare. Mortowooi rings no bells with me. I just can't think where it could be. I have looked on the 1891Census placename Index for Wales and also done a search on the Wales and Monmouth CD of the 1881 Census and can't find anything. It is probably the phonetic spelling and perhaps a Welsh speaker will have more idea. I know w in Welsh can be pronounced long as the oo in school and i as ee in need so it could end in we and not ooi and perhaps end in something like towey which sounds more Welsh to me. Regards, Margaret Harvey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Enfield" <7plusme@cox-internet.com> To: <WALES-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 7:45 AM Subject: [WALES-GEN] Mortowooi > Please does anyone have any ideas about this word? On the ship records to the USA (1907) John WM Mawford said he was from this place. I am grasping at straws. Is MAWFORD a common name in Wales? LOL are there more than 2? > Thanks for any help you are willing to offer. > Kathryn in Texas > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.306 / Virus Database: 166 - Release Date: 12/4/01 > > > ==== WALES-GEN Mailing List ==== > C J Genealogical Collections > Web Page http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

    12/14/2001 12:52:54
    1. [WALES-GEN] Mortowooi
    2. Enfield
    3. Please does anyone have any ideas about this word? On the ship records to the USA (1907) John WM Mawford said he was from this place. I am grasping at straws. Is MAWFORD a common name in Wales? LOL are there more than 2? Thanks for any help you are willing to offer. Kathryn in Texas --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.306 / Virus Database: 166 - Release Date: 12/4/01

    12/13/2001 04:45:36
    1. [WALES-GEN] BOYS' EMPIRE LEAGUE MAGAZINE
    2. Graham Price
    3. Dear All During my snooping around old markets, bookstalls, antiquarian bookshops over the past few years I have managed to pick up some useful old publications, including Boys' Own Paper 1890, Chambers's (sic) Journal 1893, Pleasant Times 1860, Glimpses of Welsh Life & Character 1893, etc. Today I stumbled upon another find and snapped it up quickly. It is a years supply, fully bound of the Boys' Empire League weekly magazine 1901, as big as an old pulpit bible! Just leafing through it I noticed a list of members of the Boys' Empire League as at January 19, 1901. There are too many names to list here and they are of all counties and "far away places", but one in particular took my attention, because there is someone on this list (Shropshire Plus) who is researching that fairly uncommon name: It was a boy listed as BROOMHALL, H.A. Liverpool. (Peter Hope, are you looking at this?) I will give some of the other names from counties close by, as there won't be too many: Birchall, W.a., Manchester - Bryan, Tom, Manchester - Blackwell A, Birmingham - Bedford, Jas., Liverpool - Bevan Jno, Swansea - Brant, A.S. Cardiff - France, R.J., Birmingham - Fay, R.V., Stoke Newington - Grosvenor, S.L., Turnstall, Stoke-on-Trent - Gibson A.L. Newcastle-on-Tyne - Genders, Jno, Manchester - Glennon, E, Manchester - Gibson, A.L., Newcastle-on-Tyne - Gayner, R.H. Birkenhead - Hincks, F.H., Seaforth, Liverpool - Hampton, T., Stone, Staff - Hetherington, E.J., Newcastle-on-Tyne - Harding, H., Cardiff - Hammersley, W., Walsall - Hughes, A., Liverpool - Jones, Thos, Kensington, Liverpool - Jones, R.N., Wellington, Salop - Jones, J.E., Carmarthen - Jones, David, Carmarthen - Kaye, H.W. Blackpool - Lucase, S.B., Liverpool - Lunge, F., Liverpool - Mayce, A., Liverpool - Morgan, H.G., Liverpool - Maylie, H., Manchester - Mojer, G.A., Tranmere, Cheshire - Nicholson, C.J., Newcastle-on-Tyne - Nowell, L.., Liverpool - Numby, W.G., Manchester - Orme, G., Southport - Owen, Alf., St. Helens, Lancs - Pugh A.A., Liscard, Cheshire - Pope, L., Newcastle-on-Tyne - Parkinson J. (jnr.) Poulton-le-Fylde, Lancs - Prosser, H., Newcastle-on-Tyne - Roberts, R., Wrexham - Richardson, S.E., Newcastle-on-Tyne - Skelmardine, W.D., Hale, Cheshire - Smeldey, J., Sheffield - Townley, B., Cardiff - Wood, Chas, Manchester - Watson, G.S., Newcaswtle-on-Tyne - Warren, F., Cheadle - Young, F., Newcastle-on-Tyne Sometime next year I may get around to typing out the whole list, but it would take a lot of time. Meanwhile, check over the above. They will all appear on the 1901 census coming up. Interesting that even up to 1901 they still put down John as Jno! P.S. I have scanned the cover into my computer (thanks to my new Canon 660U) - it is green with orange lettering, and also black lettering and depicts what would appear to be Light Horse plunging on horseback through water with probably the Union Jack flying high. If anyone would like a copy off-list, let me know, and it will be in the most accepted .jpg format. If you have the facilities, you could blow it up into a lovely A4 or larger wall hanging. Frame it, and give it to someone for Christmas, perhaps!!! caio Graham Melbourne, Oz

    12/13/2001 08:43:33
    1. [WALES-GEN] Mrs. Morgan R. Thomas, Died 19 Jan 1895, Plymouth, PA, USA
    2. Cook, Nancy
    3. The following article was found in the Wilkes-Barre Record, 21 Jan 1895, Page 8. If anyone is interested in receiving a copy of this obituary, please send me your mailing address. (Instead of submitting this to any specific Mailing List, I am submitting it to the General list in the hopes that it will be seen by a more diverse group.) "MRS. THOMAS OF PLYMOUTH "Mrs. Morgan R. Thomas of Plymouth died on Saturday morning of pneumonia, aged 75 years. Mrs. Thomas was a familiar figure in church circles and for years an active member of the Welsh Baptist Church. She is survived by a husband and five children - Morgan, of Wright Township; William of Trefarest, South Wales; Richard J., of Danville, Illinois; Thomas, of Scranton; and Mrs. Thomas E. Jones of Plymouth. The deceased has also one brother, Rev. William Williams, pastor of Argle Chapel, Swansea, South Wales. The funeral will occur to-morrow at 2 o'clock. Services will be held in the Welsh Presbyterian Church and Rev. R.E. Williams will officiate." Nancy Cook Pasadena, MD, USA

    12/13/2001 01:30:45
    1. [WALES-GEN] Elias Hughes, Died 24 Sep 1894, Pittston, PA, USA
    2. Cook, Nancy
    3. The following article was found in the Wilkes-Barre Record, 26 Sep 1894, Page 1. If anyone is interested in receiving a copy of this obituary, please send me your mailing address. (Instead of submitting this to any specific Mailing List, I am submitting it to the General list in the hopes that it will be seen by a more diverse group.) "Elias Hughes, mention of whose serious illness was made, died at his home 415 Exeter street, on Monday night. Mr. Hughes up to within a few months ago was inside foreman of the Clear Spring colliery, but on account of ill health was forced to resign. He was 63 years old and was born in Bryn Mawr, South Wales, and before coming to Pittston resided in Scranton for several years. He was a member of the Red Men's Lodge in Hyde Park. He is survived by the following children, his wife having died several years ago: Thomas and Joseph Hughes of Scranton and Mrs. Thomas Protheroe of Dunmore. The funeral will take place next Thursday at 12 noon and the remains will be taken to Scranton where interment will be made in Forest Hill Cemetery." Nancy Cook Pasadena, MD, USA

    12/13/2001 01:24:22
    1. [WALES-GEN] John J. Owens, Died 17 Oct 1894, Pittston, PA, USA
    2. Cook, Nancy
    3. The following article was found in the Wilkes-Barre Record, 18 Oct 1894, Page 1. If anyone is interested in receiving a copy of this obituary, please send me your mailing address. (Instead of submitting this to any specific Mailing List, I am submitting it to the General list in the hopes that it will be seen by a more diverse group.) "AN OLD SETTLER GONE "The death of John J. Owens, aged 83 years, which occurred at his home at Pittston yesterday, removes one of Pittston's old residents and a highly respected citizen. He was a native of North Wales and immigrated to this country in 1849 and has resided here nearly all his time with the exception of a few years in California. His wife survives him at the age of about 80, also the following children: David J. Owens of Plymouth, Mrs. R.J. Hallock of Wilkes-Barre; Mrs. Henry Zeigler of Wyoming; Mrs. William Davis of West Pittston; Mrs. John Warner of Scranton; Mrs. Jesse Fear and Mrs. William Williams of Pittston. The funeral will take place on Friday afternoon. Services will be held at the family home on Railroad street at 2:30 o'clock, conducted by Rev. W.D. Thomas." Nancy Cook Pasadena, MD, USA

    12/13/2001 01:18:05