Hi, Newport is now in Gwent but used to be in Monmouthshire. It isn't quite as simple as that as Monmouthshire used to be an English county but considered part of Wales for some legal purposes. The CDRom which is part of the 1881 collection produced by the Latter-day Saints is classified as the Wales and Monmouth area. I don't know of a site but I am sure there must be one, it would be very useful. Regards, Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maria & Mick" <maria28@myaccess.com.au> To: <WALES-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 5:38 AM Subject: [WALES-GEN] Newport, Wales > Hi > Can someone please advise the county that Newport is in? Also is there a site which has Wales towns etc located on them for reference? > Thank you > Maria > Central Coast NSW Australia > > > ==== WALES-GEN Mailing List ==== > C J Genealogical Collections > Web Page http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello all, In my Lewis post, I mentioned another of my brick walls which also seems anchored in Wales. I'm interested in hearing from anybody with information to share regarding my GGrandfather Thomas William Davies who claimed to have been born in Wales probably in 1824 but perhaps as late at 1826. [Census records vary.] I have absolutely nothing concrete to link him to Wales save for his marriage record, a later application for homestead land and that his children gave their origin as Welsh albeit all were born in Ontario. T. W. Davies married an Alice Blackburn in Wallaceburg Ontario in September, 1852, in a dual ceremony conducted by a Wesleyan Methodist minister. One of Alice's brothers was married at the same time and later included `Davies' among his first son's name. The Blackburn family had it's roots in Armagh, Ireland in the 1700s and came to Canada as United Empire Loyalists from Pennsylvania, USA. I have no inkling of how or when TW arrived in Upper Canada [or even Ontario] save that he might have come with British troops encamped at Chatham barracks [both Chatham and Wallaceburg are in Kent County] or he might even have arrived shortly before his marriage. One thing is certain, he arrived to early to be among the `home' children of the later 1800s. I'm told that most Welsh folk who immigrated to Canada, did so from Glamorgan, Powys and Monmouthshire, sailing from Bristol or Liverpool. Were I a betting man, I'd lay a dollar on Bristol though you folks might insist upon at least a pound. Unlike my early Lewis family where most of the children were born in Wales, all of my immediate Davies kin [found to date] were born in Ontario with descendants now scattered the breadth of both Canada and the United States. I have been told that I am most unlikely to penetrate my brick walls in Wales without some clue as to how these ancestors got to Canada or some definitive link to Wales. I am, however, not ready to concede defeat. Were I in good health, I'd be on a plane for Wales without a second thought. I might not find my folks but I'd at least know the land of my paternal ancestors. I'll not tell any of you that my mother is of Northern Ireland descent. Shush now. Please feel free to contact me directly or on the board if there's even a remote hope of a connection. Thanks to a new found Welsh contacts and cyber pals, I now can say `diolch yn fawr ' and `lechyd da'. Hey, it's a start. Now as you folks start your day at 9:15 GMT, I'm heading back to bed at 1:15 a.m. PDT. Have a good one. Ron Davies Surrey, BC Canada

Hello all, Can't fall to sleep so I thought I'd repost one of my brick walls which seems anchored in Wales. I'm interested in hearing from anybody with information to share regarding James and Berry Lewis who arrived in Canada about 1840 with their family of 6 children: Lewis, John, Hannah, Mary, Sarah and Thomas, all born in Wales. A 7th child, Ann, was born in what was to become Ontario, about 1843. The family settled in Walpole Township of Haldimand County, then Upper Canada. I have no maiden name for Berry Lewis nor any clue from where they came in Wales. Based solely upon census records, I make James to have been born about 1794 and Berry about 1800. I have marriages for Lewis, John and Thomas but nothing re the girls. It is believed that the mother of some of the children was a Margaret Walters but she either died in Wales or England perhaps, on the voyage over or soon after arrival: I speculate the former, and that Berry is James second wife. I have no notion of Margaret's birth date save that it was Thomas, born about two years before sailing in 1838, who declared Margaret Walters as his mother when he married in 1864. Said she was born in England [which is probably correct since he said that his father was born in Wales]. James and Berry would be GGGrandparents of mine, son Lewis being my GGrandfather. He married Nancy Ann Hopper, born on Amherst Island, Ontario, and Lewis and Nancy's 2nd child, Victoria Lewis, married my Davies Grandfather, Albert John. The latter's father is my other brick wall, also having its foundation in Wales. See my separate repost. I'm told that most Welsh folk who immigrated to Canada, did so from Glamorgan, Powys and Monmouthshire, sailing from Bristol or Liverpool. Were I a betting man, I'd lay a dollar on Bristol though you folks might insist upon at least a pound. I have been told that I am most unlikely to penetrate my brick walls in Wales without some clue as to how these ancestors got to Canada or some definitive link to Wales. I am, however, not ready to concede defeat. Were I in good health, I'd be on a plane for Wales without a second thought. I might not find my folks but I'd at least know the land of my paternal ancestors. I'll not tell any of you that my mother is of Northern Ireland descent. Sush now. Please feel free to contact me directly or on the board if there's even a remote hope of a connection. Thanks to a new found Welsh cyber pal, I now can say, Lechyd da Ron Davies Surrey, BC Canada

****ISP ~ Cableinet.co.uk **** Just to advise everyone that cableinet.co.uk has been taken over by blueyonder. I understand that the cableinet.co.uk addresses will work until June 10th 2002. If you are a cableinet.co.uk subscriber, please don't forget that you will need to unsub your old cableinet.co.uk address before June 10th and resub with your new blueyonder address. If you forget to unsub cableinet.co.uk before it closes, can you let me know the old cableinet address so that I can remove it manually before the bounces begin! Regards Julie Goucher, List Owner Anglers Rest Indexes http://freespace.virgin.net/ar.indexes Anglers Rest Home Page http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Index.htm C J http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections C J Genealogy http://www.dreamwater.net/genealogy/Index.htm Fax & Voice Mail (+44) 0870 130 5474 One Name Study ORLANDO GOONS Registered --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by Expert Anti-Virus. Version: 6.0.338 / Virus Database: 189 - Release Date: 2002-14-Mar

Hi Am new to this list and new to research overseas, so please any help would be much appreciated. I know I am searching for very common surname (and christian names) but my fiancee would love to gather more information on his family - so I am trying :-) The family I am after is - John THOMAS and Ann GAYNOR Son - George Joseph THOMAS b1857? Newport, WALES d1925 Australia m1884 Sydney, Australia to Elizabeth CRAWFORD b1866 Australia. Any connections? Or can someone advise is there a place to confirm BDM online for Wales? Or any other information. Many thanks in advance Maria Central Coast, NSW, Australia

Hello everyone The Free Census project aims to transcribe ALL the UK 19th century census returns to create an online 'free-to-view' database. Currently we have nearly 50 projects covering a county or part of a county. All but one are English, the only Welsh project covers Anglesey. The first Scots project is in the pipeline. We would dearly love to hear from anyone who would be willing to organise a Welsh county project. All the support you need will be provided including microfiche and software. If like us, you believe this information should be freely available and available for free, why not drop me a line? Rgds Michael Free Census Recruiter http://freecen.rootsweb.com/

Hi listers, I have Thomas FRANCIS and Phoebe HERBERT who married on the 5th July 1827 at Granston Parish near Haverfordwest, Wales, I am trying to find there births and there childrens, I have found them in the 1841 census as Thomas FRANCIS 35 (39) farmer Phoebe 35 (39) William FRANCIS (12) Mary FRANCIS (9) James FRANCIS (7) Anne FRANCIS (14) - Farm Servant I am trying to find out if Anne was a daughter or a relative working for Thomas. They left London Plymouth 1st April 1847 arrived South Australia 7 July 1847 on the "La Belle Alliance", and cannot find a shipping list of who arrived, just states Thomas FRANCIS & wife & children, doesnt name the children. Hoping some one may be able to point me in the right direction as to where I may go now to find these births. Thanking you Gay & Bob from Sunny Queensland, Australia.

The following article was found in the Wilkes-Barre (PA) Record, 29 Jul 1896, Page 5. If anyone is interested in receiving a copy of this obituary, please send me your mailing address. (Instead of submitting this to any specific Mailing List, I am submitting it to the General list in the hopes that it will be seen by a more diverse group.) "Daniel Jenkins died at his home, 86 Holland street, yesterday morning, after a short illness of pneumonia. He was in his 65th year. He is survived by his wife Ann and his son Jonah. He is also survived by two brothers - Richard, who resides in Bridgend, Wales, and John, who resides in Melbourne, Australia. Funeral will take place on Thursday at 2 o'clock p.m. Interment will be in Hollenback Cemetery." Nancy Cook Pasadena, MD, USA

The following article was found in the Wilkes-Barre (PA) Record, 15 Jul 1896, Page 5. If anyone is interested in receiving a copy of this obituary, please send me your mailing address. (Instead of submitting this to any specific Mailing List, I am submitting it to the General list in the hopes that it will be seen by a more diverse group.) "David T. Williams died at his home in Plymouth yesterday morning at 9:15, after four days' illness of bowel trouble. He was 71 years old and is survived by a wife and the following children: David of Plymouth, assistant mine foreman at No. 11; Robert, South Wales; John, North Wales; Mrs. Albert Hughes, Northampshire; Mrs. Ellen Roberts, Colorado; and Mrs. Mary Jones, Liverpool, England." Nancy Cook Pasadena, MD, USA

The following article was found in the Wilkes-Barre (PA) Record, 8 Jul 1896, Page 2. (The specific town in Luzerne County is not mentioned in the article.) If anyone is interested in receiving a copy of this obituary, please send me your mailing address. (Instead of submitting this to any specific Mailing List, I am submitting it to the General list in the hopes that it will be seen by a more diverse group.) "DEATH OF MRS. LEWIS S. JONES "This estimable lady, wife of ex-councilman Lewis S. Jones of the Heights, died suddenly at her home at 4:50 yesterday afternoon of heart trouble. Mrs. Jones was a prominent lady in the Welsh Presbyterian Church, of which she has been a consistent member since 1863, when the family moved from Scranton and settled at the Empire, where her husband was superintendent for a number of years. Mrs. and Mrs. Jones came from their home thirty-six years ago, or three years after their marriage, arriving at Scranton in 1860, where they remained for three years, coming from there when they settled in this city in 1863. Mrs. Jones was the daughter of David Meredith of Montgomeryshire, North Wales. The union of these two was a very long, happy and prosperous one. Seven children survived their departed mother, viz: Jarneth Jones, superintendent of the Crystal Spring Water Co.; Mrs. Samuel Griffiths of Wanamie; Mrs. Daniel E. Thomas, grocer, of East Market street; Lizzie, Maggie, Rachel and Meredith. Truly a mother in Israel has been removed from the Church militant. Her life was a benediction and it was always a comfort and a joy to be about her. Funeral will take place on Friday at 2 p.m., when Rev. J.O. Jones, pastor of the Welsh Presbyterian Church, and Rev. J.B. Craven, pastor of the Grant Street Presbyterian Church, will officiate." Nancy Cook Pasadena, MD, USA

Posted with the permission of the List Admin. At the end of January 2002 the Anglo-Italian list was created as a discussion forum for those who are researching their Anglo-Italian Ancestry. (Anglo-Italian-L-request@rootsweb.com) Through discussion on the list it has become apparent that there is no formal Society is available to such researchers and thus researching Anglo-Italian Ancestry can be rather isolating. It was felt that the long term aims would be to: 1. Form a Anglo-Italian Family History Society 2. To develop a web page for links and other useful bits of information. Both of these are to run along side the Anglo-Italian Mailing List and it is intended that this will be open to all those researching in this area, and it is hoped that those without Internet Access will also benefit. Italian Genealogy Web Page http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italian.htm The Italian Genealogy Page now has a mention of the formation of a Society, and asks those interested to join the Anglo-Italian list. ORLANDO Page http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Orlando.htm which holds info on the One Name Study and the Orlando List. Italian Links Web Page http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Italianlinks.htm Nothing there yet! but we are in the process of gathering material for this site. ANY suggestions are welcome. Please support this worthwhile project. Regards Julie Goucher, Anglo-Italian List Admin anglo-italian-admin@rootsweb.com Anglers Rest Indexes http://freespace.virgin.net/ar.indexes Anglers Rest Home Page http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Index.htm C J http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections C J Genealogy http://www.dreamwater.net/genealogy/Index.htm Fax & Voice Mail (+44) 0870 130 5474 One Name Study ORLANDO GOONS Registered --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by Expert Anti-Virus. Version: 6.0.333 / Virus Database: 187 - Release Date: 2002-08-Mar

hello, i am in hopes someone may have the answer. or at least point me in the right way. i have no information on Robert Roberts. other then date of birth and place. in hopes someone may recognise. sincerly best wishes david niswender

Hi All, Carol of TreeTops http://freespace.virgin.net/tree.tops/ has offered to do a "special week" of messages on the Family Tree Pages available on the Text Pages British TV, for the benefit of Wales-Gen subscribers. (I have no objection if this is forwarded to other Rootsweb lists for Wales, but please check with the relevant list admin's first!) The format of the messages needs to be 40 words and INCLUDE a postal address (this is to benefit those without email). An example is: Seeking ANY details on Jabez Nicholls b. 1837 Swansea Glamorgan. ****Insert Your postal address & email address HERE**** The sample is a genuine message, if you connect to Jabez please contact the address below. Messages should be sent either to wales-gen-admin@rootsweb.com Please put "special week" in the subject heading. As soon as there is 36 messages they will be allocated a week to be screened. The last time Carol did a special week it proved to be VERY successful. For details on TreeTops see below. Remember, these messages are now being screened AND placed on Treetops-News-L-request@rootsweb.com (See below for details) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ TREE TOPS QUERY SERVICE - INFORMATION E-m: tree.tops@virgin.net Web Pages: http://freespace.virgin.net/tree.tops/ Please feel free to pass any of the following info around. The idea is to send your FAMILY TREE QUERY of no more than 40 words which must include a postal address for the benefit of those television viewers not on e-mail. It wll go on the British television creen on Sky News fastext for one week and be seen all over the UK, Ireland and Europe. This is a FREE service and you do not need to have the facility to use it. ****NEW:**** The edited version of the messages will also be placed on the TREETOPS-NEWS Internet Mailing List - see below for subscribe address. Postal addresses will NOT be placed on the mailing list. A 2nd FREE service is called 'WE'LL MEET AGAIN" which is also a query service but more for the living, old pals, war buddies, 20c descendants etc. Again 40 words. TREE TOPS OVERSEAS - Free Family Tree & Meet Again Service: Searching for details of a friend, relative, ancestor from an area NOT covered by the TV screen? Join the TREE TOPS OVERSEAS Internet Mailing List for more details on this new service - see below for subscribe address. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Never seen the Free Service on the TELEVISION screen. Click on http://freespace.virgin.net/tree.tops/ and you will see what the pages actually look like on the television. Keep looking, as the graphic turns over, and you will see sample messages, giving you an idea of what yours could look like. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Regards Julie Goucher, List Owner Wales Gen Anglers Rest Indexes http://freespace.virgin.net/ar.indexes Anglers Rest Home Page http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Index.htm C J http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections C J Genealogy http://www.dreamwater.net/genealogy/Index.htm Fax & Voice Mail (+44) 0870 130 5474 One Name Study ORLANDO GOONS Registered (new) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by Expert Anti-Virus. Version: 6.0.333 / Virus Database: 187 - Release Date: 2002-08-Mar

The following article was found in the Wilkes-Barre (PA) Record, 6 Jul 1896, Page 1. If anyone is interested in receiving a copy of this obituary, please send me your mailing address. (Instead of submitting this to any specific Mailing List, I am submitting it to the General list in the hopes that it will be seen by a more diverse group.) "Catherine, wife of D.M. Davis, formerly proprietor of the Eagle Hotel in Scranton, died at her residence in Hyde Park on Saturday evening. During her long period of illness she displayed wonderful fortitude, and death came peaceably. She was born in Dowlais, Wales on March 17, 1844, and came to this country with her husband in 1863, locating at Pittston, where they remained five years. They subsequently moved to Taylor and then to Scranton, where they have lived during the past fourteen years. She was a devout member of the Taylor Baptist Church. Her husband and a daughter, Louisa, survive her." Nancy Cook Pasadena, MD, USA

The following article was found in the Wilkes-Barre (PA) Record, 3 Jul 1896, Page 7. If anyone is interested in receiving a copy of this obituary, please send me your mailing address. (Instead of submitting this to any specific Mailing List, I am submitting it to the General list in the hopes that it will be seen by a more diverse group.) "DIED IN WALES "Mrs. Lewis Edwards of South Grant street has received news of the death of her mother, Mrs. Susan Phillips, late of Blaenavon. Of recent years she has made her home with her daughters and sons-in-law, Hon. William Edwards of the First Woodland Park, Maindee, and superintendent Joseph Morgan of Ebervale at whose home she died. The funeral was private and the remains were taken to the old home at Blaenavon and buried by the side of those of her late husband. She was a widow thirty years. Mrs. L. Edwards of this city is her youngest daughter." Nancy Cook Pasadena, MD, USA

The following article was found in the Wilkes-Barre (PA) Record, 6 Jun 1896, Page 12. If anyone is interested in receiving a copy of this obituary, please send me your mailing address. (Instead of submitting this to any specific Mailing List, I am submitting it to the General list in the hopes that it will be seen by a more diverse group.) "Robert Roberts, Sr., died at his home in Plymouth on Thursday night at 11:15, after an illness of nine months of stomach trouble. He was born in North Wales and came to Plymouth ten years ago. He was a sober and industrious man and a member of the Welsh Congregational Church. He was also a member of the Ivorites. He is survived by a wife and six children. They are: Robert of Kingston, a motorman on the Plymouth-Carey avenue line of the traction company; Mrs. Morgan Williams, John, Elizabeth, Catherine and David of Plymouth. The funeral will take place on Monday afternoon." Nancy Cook Pasadena, MD, USA

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Message forwarded by List Owner - please do not reply to me. Regards, Julie, (Anglers Rest) http://freespace.virgin.net/ar.indexes http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections http://www.dreamwater.net/genealogy/Index.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: <Puffysmum@aol.com> To: <wales-gen-l-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 6:54 PM Subject: Abrahams I am trying to find my family name John Abrahams. They moved from somewhere in wales to the US befor 1788. Is there a way to find out which part of Wales they may have come from? Thanks so much. Puffysmum@aol.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by Expert Anti-Virus. Version: 6.0.330 / Virus Database: 184 - Release Date: 2002-28-Feb

Happy St. David's Day to all. Just found this address while looking for something else. There's a plethora of ALL-WELSH links for all of Welsh ancestry and Welsh `wanna-bes' to visit. :-) Culture, recipes, about this feast day, total Wales, myths and legends, are a few of the links. http://www.allthatwomenwant.com/stdavid.htm At first blush, the URL name seems to imply the fairer sex are chasing St. David but I connected anyway. I'm going to have a look right after lunch but you folks can do so in this your evening if you're not all celebrating. St. David whoops, sorry folks, I'm too ancient to be chased...almost David's brother !!! :-) Ron Davies Surrey, BC Canada

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Bessex" <dbessex@shaw.ca> To: <wales-gen-admin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 4:33 PM Subject: WELLINGS In the late 1800's Wellings from Shobdon Herefordshire went to Rhymney or maybe Merthyr Tydfil. Believe they are related to my branch from Llandewey Ystradenny. Anxious to contact descendants whether related or not. Dorothy Victoria Canada --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by Expert Anti-Virus. Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2002-19-Feb

Does anyone have access to the 1891 census for the UK ? I am trying to get a copy to view at the local LDS but my time is limited as my father is quite ill and I am having to spend a lot of time at the hospital. I really want to be able to give him some concrete answers on his family as soon as I can. If anyone has access to it could they please look and see if they can find a family last seen in the 1881 census in Whitechapel...... Father Evan Edwards, daughter Sarah, sons John and Evan. John should not be there as he left for Canada in 1883. Evan might be married and not there now. If this is the right family Sarah should be with her father unless her father has died in the preceding ten yrs..then she would be with her brother as she didn't come to Canada until 1895.......... Regards Annmarie. **************************************************************************** ****** Researching family names: Mellafont, Mellefont,Mellifont,Melaphant,Melephant,Meliphant and any variation of it ALSO Edwards from the areas of Cardiganshire, Wales and Whitechapel, England **************************************************************************** ****************************************