----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Kapera" <polera@winshop.com.au> To: <WALES-GEN-L-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 11:39 AM Subject: Fw: Searching for DAVIES Family Hi , I am re-sending this email as it has come to my attention today that a number of my messages have not been received. Hopefully this will not inconvenience you and I would greatly appreciate any assistance anyone can provide. Regards, Jan ---------- > From: Jan Kapera <polera@winshop.com.au> > To: WALES-GEN-L-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: Searching for DAVIES Family > Date: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:03 PM > > Hi All, > > > I'm searching for any information at all about the Davies family from the > Pontypridd area. I have a John William Davies born around 1918. > > > Regards, > > > > > Jan --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by Expert Anti-Virus. Version: 6.0.349 / Virus Database: 195 - Release Date: 2002-15-Apr

Margaret, Thank you for this information. The name Catherine did not appear in later generations, but that does not necessarily mean anything. I will see if I can get hold of his death certificate, which may have his parents names and therefore confirmation of those on the census. Regards David Brian Harvey wrote: > Hi, > I had a look on the 1881 Census and this is the only John Prothero I could > find living in Cardiff, there were others in other parts of Glamorganshire. > I know the name doesn't have the "e" on the end but that isn't a problem. > Sometimes it was due to the fact that the people living in the dwelling were > unable to read and write and the enumerator would have to guess. > The number after the M [Male] F[Female] is the age of the peson in 1881. > [R] is the relationship of the person to the Head of the household. > You might find a clue from this if any of the names were used in the > following generations of the family. > Regards, > Margaret Harvey > > Dwelling: 6 Daltons Court > Census Place: Cardiff St Mary, Glamorgan, Wales > Source: FHL Film 1342269 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5278 Folio 80 Page > 41 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > John PROTHERO M 39 M Brecknock, Wales > Rel: Head > Occ: Lab > Catherine PROTHERO M 40 F Brecknock, Wales > Rel: Wife > John PROTHERO 13 M Brecknock, Wales > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > William Jones PROTHERO 2 M Cardiff > Rel: Son > Catherine Ann PROTHERO 8 m F Cardiff > Rel: Daur >

Hi, I am looking for information on my wife's grandfather, John Prothero. Born in Wales, possibly Cardiff area, est 1870's, possibly 1860's. Left home at about 15, to go to sea. Seems to have joined the Merchant Navy, and served in the Boxer rebellion. Moved to Australia, by early 1900's. Dropped 'e' from "Protheroe" name. Married Eva Mary Jane Myers, in 1902, from Broulee area, south cost of NSW. John died @ Merrylands, NSW in 1948 Any information or other avenues of enquiry would be appreciated. David Beddie, Sydney, NSW, Australia

Hi Julie et al, I suggested to Ronald that he joined the Dyfed and Cardiganshire lists as we came across each other on the Wales Gen list. I was able to point him in the direction of Nanteos and Aberystwyth. There is also a vast amount of material on Nanteos listed on the National Library of Wales website. http://www.llgc.org.uk:81/index.htm I have found the book you refer to for sale secondhand when I accessed the following book site: http://dogbert.abebooks.com/abe/IList 1. MORGAM Gerald Nanteos A Welsh House and Its Families Llandysul: Gomer, 2001 Soft Cover. Large 8vo. 264pp, illustrated, study of the home and family of Powell who built this Mansion south of Aberystwyth in 1739 fine softback, . Bookseller Inventory # 11081 Price: £ 17.50 (approx. US$ 25.19) convert currency Presented by Castle Hill Books, Herefordshire, HWR, United Kingdom order options I noticed that the author's name was Morgam and wonder if Leah was in fact Morgam and not Morgan. Regards, Margaret Harvey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Preston" <juliepreston@ameritech.net> To: <WLS-CARDIGANSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [WLS-CGN] Powells, the Welsh Grail and Nanteos > > Ronald, > > (I'm posting my reply to the Dyfed list, as well, as you may reach more > subscribers) > > There's another person who may not be currently subscribed to this list > who's also interested in the POWELL family of Nanteos and the "Holy Grail" > legend. Robert at: Jabcouriers@aol.com > > Additionally, I believe there's a book written about the POWELL's of > Nanteos -- can someone provide the full title & ISBN for Ronald? > > Regards, > > Julie Preston > juliepreston@ameritech.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <PowellChristian@cs.com> > To: <WLS-CARDIGANSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 5:19 PM > Subject: [WLS-CGN] Powells, the Welsh Grail and Nanteos > > > > Hello Everyone: > > > > I am looking for information on my Powell and Morgan ancestors at Nanteos > > Mansion. > > > > My great great grandfather, John Powell, married Leah Morgan in Wales. > > > > I have been told that they were the keepers of the Holy Grail at Nanteos > > Mansion where they lived. > > > > I would be very interested in any information anyone can provide. > > > > In Christ, > > > > Ronald Royce Powell > > > > > > ==== WLS-CARDIGANSHIRE Mailing List ==== > > Genuki CGN > > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CGN/ > > > > > > ==== WLS-CARDIGANSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Gareth's Help Page > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > >

Hi, I had a look on the 1881 Census and this is the only John Prothero I could find living in Cardiff, there were others in other parts of Glamorganshire. I know the name doesn't have the "e" on the end but that isn't a problem. Sometimes it was due to the fact that the people living in the dwelling were unable to read and write and the enumerator would have to guess. The number after the M [Male] F[Female] is the age of the peson in 1881. [R] is the relationship of the person to the Head of the household. You might find a clue from this if any of the names were used in the following generations of the family. Regards, Margaret Harvey Dwelling: 6 Daltons Court Census Place: Cardiff St Mary, Glamorgan, Wales Source: FHL Film 1342269 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5278 Folio 80 Page 41 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John PROTHERO M 39 M Brecknock, Wales Rel: Head Occ: Lab Catherine PROTHERO M 40 F Brecknock, Wales Rel: Wife John PROTHERO 13 M Brecknock, Wales Rel: Son Occ: Scholar William Jones PROTHERO 2 M Cardiff Rel: Son Catherine Ann PROTHERO 8 m F Cardiff Rel: Daur ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Beddie" <dbeddie@ozemail.com.au> To: <WALES-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 7:41 AM Subject: [WALES-GEN] John Prothero(e) > Hi, > > I am looking for information on my wife's grandfather, John Prothero. > > Born in Wales, possibly Cardiff area, est 1870's, possibly 1860's. > Left home at about 15, to go to sea. Seems to have joined the Merchant > Navy, and served in the Boxer rebellion. > > Moved to Australia, by early 1900's. Dropped 'e' from "Protheroe" name. > > Married Eva Mary Jane Myers, in 1902, from Broulee area, south cost of > NSW. > > John died @ Merrylands, NSW in 1948 > > Any information or other avenues of enquiry would be appreciated. > > David Beddie, Sydney, NSW, Australia > > > ==== WALES-GEN Mailing List ==== > Have you used Tree Tops? > The Free FAMILY TREE & WE'LL MEET AGAIN SERVICE > http://freespace.virgin.net/tree.tops > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dona & Warren Windfeldt" <windydona@saber.net> To: <wales-gen-L-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 2:48 AM Subject: FRENCH family Hello all, I am looking for a FRENCH (surname) family in particular the family of Capt. Thomas W. French and his wife Sarah. prior to 1842 when they removed themselves to St. John, New Brunswick, Canada. If Capt. Thomas sailed with the family is unknown, however mother Sarah age 50 in 1842, Thomas age 25, William age 24, Louisa age 21, Lucy age 15. Capt. Thomas W. French was formerly of His Majesty's 47th Regiment. The above are the only children of Sarah and Thomas as far as I know. Arthur's Obituary stated that he was born in Wales, so have turned my search there, however could be England. Any help or hints at all will be greatly appreciated. Regards, Dona windydona@saber.net Magalia, California --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by Expert Anti-Virus. Version: 6.0.349 / Virus Database: 195 - Release Date: 2002-15-Apr

Hi Ron, I have just found some more information on Nanteos along with a telephone number which is 01970 617756 <<It is a fine Georgian mansion built between 1739 and 1757 with carved oak staircase, period kitchen, Victorian morning room and delightful music room. Good example of the life enjoyed by Welsh nobility in the 18th and 19th centuries. The name means "valley of the nightingale". Opening hours: Easter weekend, then June to September daily 1300-1730>> It is obviously a large house open to the public. Regards, Margaret Harvey

Hi Ron, I have done an advanced search on the 1881 Census and there is a a place called Llanbadarn Fawr which is just south east of Aberystwyth. There are two dwellings there with the name of Nanteos (one word). I had tried earlier with the two words Nant Eos and nothing came up. There is an Agent living in one dwelling and also a Butler, Housekeeper and Domestic Maid which means that it is likely to be a large property with the owner away or living elsewhere at the time of the Census There is a Land Agent living at a separate entry headed Nanteos and it may be part of the main property or a separate dwelling. There is also a Nanteos Lodge with a Gardener living there. I hope the above is of interest to you. Regards, Margaret Harvey ----- Original Message ----- From: <PowellChristian@cs.com> To: <WALES-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 4:36 PM Subject: [WALES-GEN] Nant Eos and Abery Stewyth > Hello Everyone: > > I have information that my paternal great great grandparents, Johan "John" > Powell, and Leah Morgan Powell, were in charge of the holy grail in Nant Eos > and that they had a rather large home at Abery Stewyth. > > In preparation for a trip to Wales in May by a cousin, I would like to ask if > anyone has any information on the above couple and/or Nant Eos or Abery > Stewyth. > > John and Leah migrated to America about 1841 so any data would have been > before that year. > > If I have the wrong mailing list, could someone please tell me what mailing > list would have Nant Eos and Abery Stewyth. > > I would like to thank you advance for your help. > > In Christ, > > Ron Powell > > > > > ==== WALES-GEN Mailing List ==== > Have you used Tree Tops? > The Free FAMILY TREE & WE'LL MEET AGAIN SERVICE > http://freespace.virgin.net/tree.tops > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Ron, Do you think Abery Stewyth is Aberystwyth which is a seaside town in Cardiganshire on the west coast of Wales? The National Library of Wales is in Aberystwyth with an enormous amount of records for the family history researcher. The mailing lists more suited are the Cardiganshire one and the Dyfed one where you will find people who know the area well. It would be a good idea to stay subscribed to this one as well. You subscribe in the same way. WLS-CARDIGANSHIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com DYFED-L-request@rootsweb.com Regards, Margaret Harvey ----- Original Message ----- From: <PowellChristian@cs.com> To: <WALES-GEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 4:36 PM Subject: [WALES-GEN] Nant Eos and Abery Stewyth > Hello Everyone: > > I have information that my paternal great great grandparents, Johan "John" > Powell, and Leah Morgan Powell, were in charge of the holy grail in Nant Eos > and that they had a rather large home at Abery Stewyth. > > In preparation for a trip to Wales in May by a cousin, I would like to ask if > anyone has any information on the above couple and/or Nant Eos or Abery > Stewyth. > > John and Leah migrated to America about 1841 so any data would have been > before that year. > > If I have the wrong mailing list, could someone please tell me what mailing > list would have Nant Eos and Abery Stewyth. > > I would like to thank you advance for your help. > > In Christ, > > Ron Powell > > > > > ==== WALES-GEN Mailing List ==== > Have you used Tree Tops? > The Free FAMILY TREE & WE'LL MEET AGAIN SERVICE > http://freespace.virgin.net/tree.tops > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

On 15 Apr 2002, at 5:48, TexasCowGirlx1@aol.com wrote: > Seeking ancestor's, > Arthur D. Beresford born between 1841 and 1865 Wales / England was > also in Kings Army England as a purser for the King. He died after > June 1885 and 1906 in England. Married to Sarah Deava VyPond (Vipond) > issue; 1. female, Gladys Isaline Beresford born 12 May 1885 > Wales/England. She immigrated to US date unknown and married Apr 1907 > in Distr. of Columbia to William Madison Monroe II. They had 4 sons. > 1. William Madison 2.maclyn plaster 3. Robert Edward 4. Ashley (middle > name unknown) male I cannot seem to find any other records on Gladys > other than her S.S. application And no records on her parents. I do > not know if she had siblings, sense all the listed above are now gone. > Any help please, Im at a dead end here. Thank you Susan Taylor > TexasCowGirlx1@aol.com Are you sure of your facts? One flaw would appear to be that between 1837 and 1901 Britain didn't have a King, it had Queen, Victoria - or am I missing something?

Hello Everyone: I have information that my paternal great great grandparents, Johan "John" Powell, and Leah Morgan Powell, were in charge of the holy grail in Nant Eos and that they had a rather large home at Abery Stewyth. In preparation for a trip to Wales in May by a cousin, I would like to ask if anyone has any information on the above couple and/or Nant Eos or Abery Stewyth. John and Leah migrated to America about 1841 so any data would have been before that year. If I have the wrong mailing list, could someone please tell me what mailing list would have Nant Eos and Abery Stewyth. I would like to thank you advance for your help. In Christ, Ron Powell

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Just a quick email. The correct address for ubsubscribe and subscribing is wales-gen-L-request@rootsweb.com for mail mode & wales-gen-D-request@rootsweb.com for digest mode. Regards Julie Goucher, List Owner Anglers Rest Indexes http://freespace.virgin.net/ar.indexes Anglers Rest Home Page http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Index.htm C J http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections C J Genealogy http://www.dreamwater.net/genealogy/Index.htm FreeCEN Surrey 1891 http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/freecen.htm Fax & Voice Mail (+44) 0870 130 5474 One Name Study ORLANDO GOONS Registered --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by Expert Anti-Virus. Version: 6.0.345 / Virus Database: 193 - Release Date: 2002-09-Apr

Seeking ancestor's, Arthur D. Beresford born between 1841 and 1865 Wales / England was also in Kings Army England as a purser for the King. He died after June 1885 and 1906 in England. Married to Sarah Deava VyPond (Vipond) issue; 1. female, Gladys Isaline Beresford born 12 May 1885 Wales/England. She immigrated to US date unknown and married Apr 1907 in Distr. of Columbia to William Madison Monroe II. They had 4 sons. 1. William Madison 2.maclyn plaster 3. Robert Edward 4. Ashley (middle name unknown) male I cannot seem to find any other records on Gladys other than her S.S. application And no records on her parents. I do not know if she had siblings, sense all the listed above are now gone. Any help please, Im at a dead end here. Thank you Susan Taylor TexasCowGirlx1@aol.com

This should have been sent to Dorothy, not me! ----- Original Message ----- From: <RWtegg@aol.com> To: <list.owner@virgin.net> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 3:56 PM Subject: Radnorshire Hi Dorothey,in 1974 in was amalgamated with Mongomeryshire and Breconshire and renamed Powys.If you look on www.rootsweb.com/~wlsrad/Radnor.htm it will explain all. Good hunting,Rob. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by Expert Anti-Virus. Version: 6.0.345 / Virus Database: 193 - Release Date: 2002-09-Apr

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Bessex" <dbessex@shaw.ca> To: <WALES-GEN-request-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 8:36 PM A census shows my greatgreatgrandmother was born in Gollen, Radnorshire. Can SKS tell me where that is? Must be much too small for my atlas Thank you Dorothy Victoria Canada --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by Expert Anti-Virus. Version: 6.0.345 / Virus Database: 193 - Release Date: 2002-09-Apr

Hello! I am new to the list and wonder if some kind soul could do a look up for me. I am searching for a lost Uncle and this is the only info I have on him . John H Dulake Rhostan 17 Chapel St. Llandudno, North Wales, Wales I don't even know if he is still alive. Thank you kindly for your help. It is much appreciated. Lynne in BC, Canada

Hello all I am new to this list. I hope I'm on the right list for my posting. My great grandmother was Charlotte Selina WHITTAKER. She was born in 1856 in Cardiff. I know very little about her background. I would love to know who her parents were, and if she had any brothers or sisters. I am trying to find her marriage record to William BIRD of Bilton Rugby Warwickshire England. In 1881 they had one son William aged 1. They had 11 children in all, then they separated after William, a labourer, was the recipient of £30,000 after the death of an aunt. Would love to hear from other WHITTAKER researchers. Regard Janet

Hi Lisa, Many thanks for that, I,ll give it a try straightaway. Regards Chris Weymouth

Hi all, Have just joined to try and find a stray ancestor for my wife. All we know is my wife,s g,mother Elizabeth Jean Rogers was born in or near Tonypandy in about 1917, her father ........Rogers was a miner in the area, born about 1875, we don,t know if there were even other children! Is there a list of miners/ union members I can access, or could someone look-up on a census/poll index for me? As far as the family knows she turned up in London about 1935 and married Sidney Phillip Tucker my wife,s g,father.....nothing else!! Many thanks for any help Regards Chris Weymouth