Probably the Irish and Dutch with darker hair and eyes used the term "Black Dutch or Irish" to describe themselves and the Indians adopted it to try to claim white blood. Makes sense don't you think. I mean the Indians had to assume the terms meant something to the white census takers, etc., else it would have been of no help to them. Mickey Mildred "Mickey" Fournier PO Box 1967, Lake City, FL 32056 mailto:mfournier@atlantic.net